Sky Sports Pundit On Rafa Benitez The God – He’s Being Too Negative


Former Liverpool player Jamie  Carragher has been speaking on  Sky’s Monday Night Football and says that Rafa Benitez is too negative on the transfer window this summer.

Rafa has riled on a  lot about the mistakes we made at the beginning of the transfer window when we missed out on a number of our top targets and we never really recovered from that.

But we still think Newcastle have brought in six decent (good) players who will improve as the season progresses.

And Rafa is continually asked by the media what he thinks about the transfer window, and of course, he doesn’t think much of it – at least so far.

Jamie Carragher – God is being too negative

This is what Jamie said last night on Sky Sports:

“Rafa Benitez is a God really to Newcastle fans. They’re writing books about him, the way he brought them up, he’s integrated himself into the city with his work.”

“But his negativity, I think, is rubbing off on the whole club.”

“The supporters, all they’re chanting for is Rafa Benitez, there are no players, so you can see how they feel about him but there’s got to be more of an upbeat mood.”

“What he’s basically saying is the players he’s got aren’t good enough but 80%-90%  of that squad, those are who you are going to need to keep you up.”

“You need to somehow lift them as well, it’s far too negative and it has to change.”

The negativity is mostly being caused by losing our first two games.

If we had won the first two games or got 4 points out of them, the mood would be a lot better because we would think we can compete this season in the Premier League with what we already have.

But with two defeats, in particular against Huddersfield, who are supposed to struggle this season, the conclusions are we may not be able to compete with the players we have at the moment.

And another relegation battle is not what we are expecting this season!

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102 comments so far

  • toon kk

    Aug 22, 2017 at 8:31 AM

    Comment #1

    Down to our players now to prove that they are good enough.

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  • Mag52

    Aug 22, 2017 at 8:33 AM

    Comment #2

    I think we might get a more positive vibe from Rafa once the window closes.
    He is still sending out messages to fat Ash that he needs more quality purchases. If he were to come out now and state he’s quite happy with the way things have gone, it’s less likely that he’ll get agreement for more purchases.
    On the whole he’s a positive sort of guy, and I feel that positivity will return in September.

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  • OneAlanShearer

    Aug 22, 2017 at 8:39 AM

    Comment #3

    Why on earth would anyone listen to any pundit over rafa. Seriously.. which one of these genius ex players is on a par with rafa?! None of them. All need to shut up. Rafa is trying to get our idiot of an owner to back him.. what exactly is wrong with t that…..oooohhh it’s breeding a bad atmosphere…what you think the lack of a top goal keeper, dm, left back, number 10 and striker is less of an issue.
    Once the window closes rafa knows he has to try and perform a miracle and keep us up against every team that has already improved their squad. They all have bought a goal scorer and have cohesive balanced sides….erm we bloody don’t.
    Keep shouting rafa. You can stand on my shoulders if you like.
    Back rafa. He knows what he’s doing. If he was shouting after the window shut that’s different…he’s Not!!

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  • Vask

    Aug 22, 2017 at 8:40 AM

    Comment #4

    Still think we’ll be alright this season. Huddersfield had a good start, hit the ground running etc etc. But what happens if they get some key injuries to people like Mooy or Mounie, can they still do the business? Even without injuries can they sustain their early momentum? Time will tell.

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  • Slank

    Aug 22, 2017 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #5

    Ed, what’s all this about WE made mistakes at the beginning and WE missed out ?

    It was reported at the time when Benitez met Ashley &/ or Charnley that he wanted full control of transfers both in and out. Presumably being an experienced manager he would have discussed money as it and transfer go together. If he didn’t get a commitment on money he should have walked there and then with his reputation intact having gained promotion and won the league.

    He was granted full control and Charnley (his boss) would report to him. Whether it was a consequence of that I’m not sure but Carr departed.

    To now say it was the fault of everybody but Benitez is wrong and incorrect.

    Benitez was in charge and knew the facts about the wage bill and responsible for scouting.

    If he was promised funds at the meeting that subsequently never materialised then he should walk. Few, if any, would disagree with him. If however he never secured a commitment to funds at the meeting he should stop moaning and groaning ant get on with the job. As the Yanks like to say ‘shape up or ship out’.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Aug 22, 2017 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #6

    magscar – thanks for that response. No traps or ulterior motives set or intended.
    Just that you had remarked that you believed none of the reported transfer stories in the press (my paraphrasing) – and just wondered whether that was a “carte blanche” belief or otherwise. The Dele Alli story did have more substance than the usual stories. That was all.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Aug 22, 2017 at 8:55 AM

    Comment #7

    Would Rafa actually consider losing the first 3 PL games and Cup match worth while if it got another player in?

    I am sure it is not deliberate, injuries to defenders are foreseeable, but the negative environment is an issue which I am sure will be pushed aside once the transfer window is closed.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Aug 22, 2017 at 8:57 AM

    Comment #8

    Slank

    Gamez, or any other defender, not even on the bench for HTFC. Whilst I was glad Mbemba got a game it will not have been the best experience for him.

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  • Nufc-83

    Aug 22, 2017 at 8:57 AM

    Comment #9

    Its easy to say don’t worry about Huddersfield but they have 6 pts in 2 games which is monumental when battling relegation (which they will be). It also not only 1 team that get relegated its 3 so its the likes of Burnley and Bournemouth who I was hoping would be dragged into the scrap that you have to worry about. If we also take Brighton as a team that will end up battling relegation who else do we think is worse. Swansea are debatable but its clear they are going to spend big now they have the money from Gilfi and apart from that I cant think of a team who are in our bracket of being a championship quality side.People suggested Watford we a worse team at the start which is laughable and they will finish easily mid table.

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  • lochinvar

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:01 AM

    Comment #10

    Jamie Carragher was so negative in his commentary style as to make anyone listening depressed.
    Anyway, more important matters to discuss.

    Is Wilshere a nut job a la Barton and would we want him in the team or maybe that’s just what we need.
    A combo of Wilshire and Shelvey is going to make some opposition players think twice about trying to bully those two !

    Or did he just react to a late tackle because of his previous broken leg. Don’t know if Smith was sent off , neither was Kane for his tackle on Lejeune and the ref made a hash job of the City v. Everton game last night as well. And we thought we might get a higher standard of refs in the Premiership, maybe not. TMO’s would sort this but I guess the FA are so doddery that making a decision would be too much for them.

    Jack Wilshere has been sent off in an Arsenal U23s match against Manchester City after a brawl with opposition players.The midfielder, who was making his second appearance for Arsenal after coming back from a fractured leg, picked up a straight red card for shoving City’s Matthew Smith in Monday night’s 4-3 Premier League 2 win at the Emirates Stadium. Wilshere reacted to Smith’s late tackle in the centre of the pitch and pushed the City man aggressively in the chest, sending him falling to the ground.

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  • Reilly

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:02 AM

    Comment #11

    the scouse git is right.cringe worthy how some fans go on about rafa.
    its like fans forgot who our owner is and how rafa was before he come here.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:04 AM

    Comment #12

    Rafas’ position at the club could be that of a reputation enhancer or a reputation killer.
    Perhaps Rafa is, at an early juncture, making it plain he is not totally responsible if things do not pan out well. He can cite his recent remarks in his own defence.
    Someone remarked the other day that he will not have dealt with folks like Mr Tubbs and Junior Tubbs previously – I suspect that is probably true.

    Junior Tubbs will be sneakily reporting back to Mr Tubbs what Rafa is up to.

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  • martoon

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:06 AM

    Comment #13

    Every season there is always a lower team like Huddersfield that has an amazing start but by Christmas they will be in the bottom 3 when teams sus them out and injuries & suspensions start to bite. That’s not to say we might struggle as well but just saying Huddersfield bubble will burst!

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  • Lindisfarne

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #14

    I wonder why Gayle is getting up to match speed in League games rather than U23?

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  • Lindisfarne

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:11 AM

    Comment #15

    Rafa is in his second year of lucrative three year contract, that probably has expensive disadvantages to walking away. He sees NUFC as a project that is good for him professionally and personally. If he is shafted again next summer he will not be extending his contract.

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  • Jib

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #16

    Mister Tuff
    Comment #12
    Rafa will not have dealt with folks like Mr Tubbs and Junior Tubbs previously – I suspect that is probably true.
    Junior Tubbs will be sneakily reporting back to Mr Tubbs what Rafa is up to.

    What a weird view you have of the world
    I guess you only have your own experiences to go on

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  • Spoof

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:23 AM

    Comment #17

    Carragher is right, Rafa is to negative and it will diminish any confidence the players might have, how can you expect the players to feel valued when their manager is constantly implying that they aren’t good enough, as good as he may be this summer Rafa has been really poor, he really needs to buck his ideas up or he and he alone will lead us onto a very rocky road.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #18

    Jib Jibberish – not a weird view at all – evidenced (something you know nowt about – unless you make it up viz your claims to be a lecturer in both Modern European History and Psychology – claims which you have made on here – oops forgot about you being a postman as well).
    Has Rafa ever worked with a person who has been arrested for Tax Fraud – probably not.
    Has Rafa ever worked for an organisation that plant listening devices to record what people are talking about – probably not.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #19

    Spoof

    I do not believe any player that has been in the first team squad has specifically been told they are not good enough. Rafa has stated that he would like to see more new players to improve the quality of the club and create competition for places, as has every other PL manager.

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  • optimistic prime

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #20

    So last year in the championship we should have walked the league due to having a Premier league squad, this year we’ll be relegated because we have a championship squad.

    My brain hurts

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  • EllaGuru

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #21

    Rafa makes a fair point. We missed a couple of really good chances, ones that should and would have been put away by a clinical CF. We also switched off at the back and paid for it.
    Rafa is merely pointing out that it was not good enough, and rightly so.

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  • Jib

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #22

    According to Italian media
    Achraf Lazaar joined Genoa 2 hours ago !!!!

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  • Our Toon

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #23

    Jib

    You were discussing the sissoko transfer and saying we don’t have much money to spend after tax etc. We agreed to that sissoko deal as it’s 35m over 5 years. Firstly it’s a no brainer for a player we paid pennies for, it made even more sense as we got relegated and needed him off the books. Spurs can’t afford to pay much upfront because of ground costs for them.

    Many factors why we agreed to that type of deal

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  • Lindisfarne

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #24

    Jib

    A bit early for the Italians!

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  • Ron Knee

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #25

    Those poor unloved players. The heart bleeds.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #26

    I am sorry Jeff, but do you not pay attention to what has happened the past 10 years…or are you too busy writing sniddy remarks to everyone with something interesting to say?

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  • EllaGuru

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #27

    August is holiday season in Italy. Businesses effectively shut down for the whole month! Amazing that such a report is out so early!

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  • Lindisfarne

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #29

    The majority of games last season we won by bullying the opposition and were not great on quality. It is hardly surprising that we need better players that will cost more and Rafa needs to raise as much money as possible from those players he does not believe can make the step up.

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  • Jib

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #30

    Very confusing
    It’s now a fight between Genoa and Bologna for Lazaar !!
    One minute you cannot sell him for love or money – now the buggers are fighting over him !!!

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #31

    lochinvar

    i think they’d more likely think they could wind up both of them and get 2 reds instead of one!

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  • Spoof

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #32

    Lindisfarne

    Individually no player would have been told they aren’t good enough and yes every manager will want to improve their squad’s, however if you over do the moaning and the lack of activity then that becomes a negative and sorry mate but Rafa is overdoing it, it’s not helpful, we’ve already had Rob Elliott saying that its disruptive, and he’s right, it is and it’s up to Rafa to stop moaning and to just get on with it.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #33

    Morning Ron…

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  • Ron Knee

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #34

    Morning, jesper

    Bend over and take it, Spoof?

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  • optimistic prime

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #35

    Has anyone told Rafa the secret code word?

    Purples, it must be a misunderstanding, Ashley doesn’t understand the concept of quality, call a purple a purple and we’re in chaps!

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  • Jack Root

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:57 AM

    Comment #36

    As many have said I do think Rafa can improve on when to make substitutions. He’s not alone amongst managers of misjudging the crossing point where a players’ objective performance declines sufficiently to warrant replacement. Many on Sunday were calling for Gale to go after 20 minutes.
    Delay in substituting is a normal decision making bias as managers are committed to their initial assessment. Rafa does tend to wait until flagging performance is undeniable.
    As on Sunday the stats suggest that an earlier substitution could have made a difference.
    Watching a lot of football I am sure that OPTA stats will indicate a drop off in Gayle’s physical performance not only in games but in training and the time taken to recover from high intensity effort. In Gayle’s case it could of course be psychological but it is clearly an issue.
    Would Benitez consider selling Gayle if say a Championship side came in for him ?
    Maybe with a view to bringing in a ST someone of higher calibre. We certainly need more creativity and finishing potential.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #37

    To use the goal keeper position as an example, there has been plenty of speculation in the press about a new player coming to this position. Along with the credentials that Rafa is supposedly looking for. But players should know by now that the majority of what is in the papers is made up by reporters, agents etc and who knows if Rafa really wanted Riena(?) from Napolli or if he was just trying to strengthen his position at the club? The players at NUFC should know better and rather than being mollycoddled, need to step up to any perceived criticism, or disappear to Brazil with the other ‘criminals’.

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  • Jib

    Aug 22, 2017 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #38

    Spoof
    These guys get in a month what I suspect would be life-changing money for the majority of footy fans.
    If the poor wee lambs cannot take a bit of criticism I suggest a career change.

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Aug 22, 2017 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #39

    Calmed down a bit since Sunday – if we had been up for that game like Huddersfield we could of easily won – BUT – we seemed lethargic – we did not close there runners down ie the goal Mooy was involved three times – got ball ion half-way line passed ball ran-on gothe ball played a one-two and scored. yet in that move no one tracked him put in a tackle. and when he shot two of our defenders turned the back when he shot.

    And RAFA might have to swallow his pride and play Mitrovich or bring him on or preferable change the tactics and go two up front when chasing a game – at least have a go

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  • Our Toon

    Aug 22, 2017 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #40

    So rafa saying the obvious is being negative and not having a good impact on players. The owner who runs the club like a *hit show doesn’t have an affect on the players?

    Is that what we are saying?

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