Why Rafa Benitez Can Still Stay At Newcastle Long Term


The general consensus after the transfer window ended on Thursday night when we didn’t bring in any players during the last couple of weeks in the window was that Rafa Benitez will be furious and likely want to leave the club – probably next summer.

We haven’t heard anything from the manager but when he left the training ground on Thursday night around 6:00 pm he looked stern.

Rafa will be disappointed that he couldn’t get at least two more players through the door, but when you look at the squad we have now it’s still better than last season.

Also, we have some players now who have worked with Rafa for over a year and know exactly what he wants – so there’s no bedding-in process for them.

It’s not beyond the realm of possibility that we can still have a good season – with that being finishing in the top 10 in the league.

The fans are going to be vital again this season – as they always are.

Rafa Benitez – after the win against West Ham

Sold-out home crowds and keeping those great flags flying at the Gallowgate end will be necessary to inspire not only our players but also to let Rafa know that he’s at a special club whose fans want and need success.

There’s really only one man not fully supporting him at Newcastle – that’s the good news.

The bad news is that it’s the owner Mike Ashley who continues to do a good imitation of Scrooge with Newcastle’s money.

We would hope that Ashley would not let the bad feeling between him and Rafa fester.

Maybe he can visit the Benton training fields and meet with Rafa for dinner one night, and they can talk through their differences and where each one is coming from to try to repair their relationship.

But over the last ten years, one thing Mike is not good at is communication, and he seems to back away from it.

But even he must know that he’s now a lot closer to screwing up big time with Rafa, when that looked almost impossible back in May when everything looked very good for Newcastle.

Because of his miserly attitude to spending the club’s money and always wanting just to get by, Ashley could well be responsible for losing a world-class manager.

The fans will never forgive him if that happens, and we know the next manager through the door will be nowhere near as good as Rafa and we will probably be back fighting relegation again.

Mr. Benitez seems the perfect manager for Newcastle, and as he thinks about his future over the next few months, maybe he will realize there are very few clubs like Newcastle United.

He is treated like a God at Newcastle, and if he wins just one trophy for us to break our 48-year duck – that statue is waiting to be built for him at St. James’ Park.

Yes, it’s difficult to get money out of Mike Ashley, but everything else is still in place for Rafa to be successful on Tyneside and he’s still got massive control of the club.

The fans are also one huge reason why he could still be at the club long term.

We hope we are right on that.

Comments welcome.



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110 comments so far

  • Tsunki

    Sep 4, 2017 at 8:17 AM

    Comment #1

    Eds riding the spin wave ha ha we’re back to positive news hurrah!

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  • WWSBRD

    Sep 4, 2017 at 8:24 AM

    Comment #2

    Ashley has saw off Kev, Shearer, Hoots and the stadium name whilst plastering tat on the walls for free with minimal issue I doubt hes too worried about losing Rafa

    And Rafa likes the fans and see the potential of the club but hes not going to hang around plenty other clubs have the same just less history

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  • lochinvar

    Sep 4, 2017 at 8:27 AM

    Comment #3

    Rafa might have looked stern on Thursday leaving the training ground as he had a medical treatment to go to. Might have been a wisdom tooth extraction, or piles or an ingrowing toenail who knows ? But any of those that would explain his pained expression.
    Hope you’re feeling well Rafa , back to work now, no slacking please we have high expectations.

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  • martoon

    Sep 4, 2017 at 8:27 AM

    Comment #4

    Ed, without wanting to sound too negative I think top ten is a bit optimistic – somewhere between 10 & 14 is probably more realistic!

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  • Tsunki

    Sep 4, 2017 at 8:27 AM

    Comment #5

    Its all right Yo – according to Jib Rafa is being schooled by Mike on transfer economics by having his pocket money withheld. He’ll learn his lesson don’t worry.

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  • Tsunki

    Sep 4, 2017 at 8:30 AM

    Comment #6

    I thought Ed was angling for trips to Dagenham and North Ferriby followed by receivership the other day – now he’s swung back to challenging for CL spots! 🙂

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  • hibbit

    Sep 4, 2017 at 8:31 AM

    Comment #7

    i had us at 15th i’m going to stick with that for this season

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  • WWSBRD

    Sep 4, 2017 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #8

    Tsunki
    The world according to Jeffery is a dangerous book to trust mate

    He might be right though I mean what does Rafa know about football eh

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  • nut meg

    Sep 4, 2017 at 9:01 AM

    Comment #9

    Lilo..many congratulations young man, hope you have a long and happy life together.

    hibbitt,,, I went for 12th but i’d be fine with anything above 15/16th as long as it’s a comfortable & not a cardiac sort of season.

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  • Tsunki

    Sep 4, 2017 at 9:15 AM

    Comment #10

    We won’t be relegated with this squad providing we don’t have our usual string of injuries, dodgy reffing decisions, trial by TV suspensions…

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  • Jib

    Sep 4, 2017 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #11

    Oooh look Tsunki’s talking footy like a proper bloke !!!
    Steady tiger (or should that be tigress ?)

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 4, 2017 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #12

    Jib,
    You claim that Rafa and Ashley are working on finding a balance, how do you suppose they are achieving this if they don’t speak to each other. Rather than Rafa drive down to Shirebrook, barge past Ashleys security goons and kick in the doors of his office, wouldn’t it have been easier for Ashley to hang back for an hour or two after the Spurs game, or does he feel more comfortable sitting in the Dog and Duck by the fie place while Churnley texts him what Rafa just said?

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  • dig-n-dig22

    Sep 4, 2017 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #13

    ” Why Rafa Benitez can stay at Newcastle long term”

    TBH I think the way Ashley backed Benitez in the Transfer window, or rather didn’t back him was nothing short of humiliating for Rafa. Ashley was hoping that Rafa would walk, leaving the way for Ashley to slot in another “Wing and a prayer manager” to resume business as usual after Rafa achieved promotion. I can’t believe the lay down and die attitude of some bloggers on here after being shafted by Ashley again, “Stop moaning and just accept it” at best another season of lower table mediocrity, at worst another drop, following on from the previous “10 YEARS” under Ashley. Stop buying the merchandise, stop buying the season tickets until Ashley goes!!

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  • toontaff2

    Sep 4, 2017 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #14

    All of the following should be added to the banned list of BLOG topics :

    Amateur Football Accountancy
    RAFA going for a walk speculation
    Season ticket holders boycotting, like they do doon the road
    Swansea City fans’ opinions

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  • martoon

    Sep 4, 2017 at 9:40 AM

    Comment #15

    I’m still puzzled how Mitro gets a retrospective ban (deserved by the way) whereas nothing for the player who kicked Mbemba in the face despite there being still pictures of the moment all over the internet!

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  • toontaff2

    Sep 4, 2017 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #16

    Is Jack Colback now back training with the first team?
    Saivet was ok v Forest, covered midfield/No 10 – surely JC should be covering left back, which he was used by those doon the road, for?

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  • toontaff2

    Sep 4, 2017 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #17

    Martoon –
    Kane assaulting Florian Gregoire Claude Lejeune
    Chancel Mangulu Mbemba being karate kicked
    Isaac Scot Hayden being stood on by Mounie -think Jazzy put a great pic on here of that one

    Alexander Ruffian Hoodlum Hooligan Mitrovic the Thug elbows Lanzini.

    All seen by the ref, but only one has seen retrospective action.
    Pundits only discussed 1 of these incidents.

    And only 1 of these was initiated by a Toon player. A daft action by Mitro, deserving of a red, but all of the above could be described similarly, though maybe cynical/clever would fit for these, rather than naïve/stupid for Mitro.

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  • toontaff2

    Sep 4, 2017 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #18

    Full 25 man squad list: (*Home grown):

    Aarons, Rolando*
    Atsu, Christian (Twasam)
    Clark, Ciaran*
    Colback, Jack Raymond*
    Darlow, Karl*
    Diame, Mohamed
    Dummett, Paul*
    Elliot, Robert*
    Gamez Duarte, Jesus
    Gayle, Dwight Devon Boyd*
    Haidara, Massadio
    Hayden, Isaac Scot*
    Joselu (Mato Sanmartin, Jose Luis)
    Lascelles, Jamaal*
    Lejeune, Florian Gregoire Claude
    Manquillo Gaitan, Javier
    Mbemba, Chancel Mangulu
    Mitrovic, Aleksander
    Murphy, Jacob Kai*
    Perez, Ayoze (Gutierrez)
    Ritchie, Matthew Thomas*
    Saivet, Henri
    Shelvey, Jonjo*
    Sterry, Jamie Michael*
    Yedlin, DeAndre

    So we also have Hairdrier to cover for Dummett.

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  • AncientC

    Sep 4, 2017 at 10:09 AM

    Comment #19

    I noticed a few comments from last night saying the club debt to Ashley is illusory and only exists in his head – as he owes the money to himself.

    This is wrong, the debt is very real and does exist. Let’s say for example Merino goes on to become a starter for Spain and wreaks havoc on the Premier League, and 3 years down the line he is sold for £200 million. At that point, Ashley can take most of that money to pay back for himself to pay the loan; whereas if that debt was illusory, then that theoretical £200 million could go back into the transfer kitty.

    Of course, if the club does not get itself into a position to pay back the debt, it simple can’t, but that leaves you with a catch-22. A club either being anchored by its debt – or a club making profits but losing those profits to pay back the debt.

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  • AncientC

    Sep 4, 2017 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #20

    I knew I would catch myself out not proof-reading my posts sooner or later. That will teach me.

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  • Hooded Claw

    Sep 4, 2017 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #21

    #14
    Ref saw it deemed Mbemba nutted his foot

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  • lesh

    Sep 4, 2017 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #22

    martoon @14

    Maybe you could ask the FA why they’ve chosen not to follow up other incidents.

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  • hibbit

    Sep 4, 2017 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #23

    AncientC
    even if we had no debt and we sold the said player for 200m Ashley would be within his legal rights as owner to take/ keep the money provided he payed any tax/vat due on said amount
    Ashley owns 100% of nufc to do with as he see’s fit as long as long as he stays within the law

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  • martoon

    Sep 4, 2017 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #24

    Hooded Claw – Lol
    lesh – somehow I don’t think they’ll take any notice unlike MotD pundits 🙂

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  • AncientC

    Sep 4, 2017 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #25

    hibbit, when is the last time a club sold a player for large profits, and the club owner/owners kept the profits for themselves…

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  • AncientC

    Sep 4, 2017 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #26

    There is no need for club owner(s) to keep player profits, they can & do put the money into the accounts, you can then grow the club… plus you get that money at point of sale.

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  • Slank

    Sep 4, 2017 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #27

    Ed,

    ‘..imitation of Scrooge with Newcastle’s money…’

    It’s his money.

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  • Tsunki

    Sep 4, 2017 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #28

    Toontaff if we banned all those topics we would be reduced to talking about rugby and cricket. 😀

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  • hibbit

    Sep 4, 2017 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #29

    AncientC
    i don’t know but that doesn’t mean it couldn’t happen, this is Ashley were talking about and legal he would be within his rights
    he has no shareholders to keep him in in check provided e stays within the law it’s his

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  • AncientC

    Sep 4, 2017 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #30

    Hibbit, this is getting off-topic. My point is that the debt is real and has to be repaid. Like I said, if we make £200 million on a player – just for example – then you would expect that surplus to go towards paying back the loan. If the money is there to pay it… it will be repaid in some form. It is not going to be forgotten about.

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  • hibbit

    Sep 4, 2017 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #31

    AncientC
    sorry mate but that’s to simplistic for Ashley what you expect from is total different to what you get
    paying the said loan back would have no benefits what so ever for him
    it wont be payed back any time soon even if the club had the money

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  • Tsunki

    Sep 4, 2017 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #32

    You have to understand what motivated Mike to invest in NUFC in the first place, I’m sure he said it himself – to promote the SD brand and enrich it by various means. The not inconsiderable advertising in the ground for a decade, the club shop reduced to commission to pay its own rent space, outsourced catering – everything ticks over on league revenue, gate receipts and hospitality like a bean counters dream flatlined in the PL if all goes to plan. Of course we have the pesky manager begging for transfer money but don’t worry we have that area sewn up too – it’s strictly spend what you sell. Of course the loan is mike’s money locked up as an advance, but it’s there to get back when he sells up so don’t worry he won’t lose it!

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  • AncientC

    Sep 4, 2017 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #33

    hibbit, why wouldn’t Ashley want his loan back?

    Wouldn’t you?

    He could have repaid himself around £80 million a few years back, but the club was in relegation form, and he is rumoured to have been very aware of the inflationary player prices that were brewing. At that point Ashley had to spend to keep the club afloat, and the gamble seemed worthwhile if it was spent on younger players with sell-on value. Sound in theory. Disaster in practise. Too little too late.

    If Ashley can get the club on a sound footing in the Premier League, I would imagine at that point, any excess will then go towards paying back the loan. If seems fairly evident Ashley is now only in it for the advertising and a return on his investment.

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  • posada

    Sep 4, 2017 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #34

    Some comments have been made about the poor treatment of certain players.
    Fact is we had about 7 or 8 that were not in contention for a first team place.
    Normally you would like to be totally positive with players.

    However, these players are in the main millionaires several times over and will continue to earn big money when they have left.
    They get all the benefits of the supply and demand side of things, when they sell their skills and commit to a contract.

    What does the club have to do as far as being positive is concerned.
    1) Honour their contracts ( they did )
    2) Give them the opportunity to train and play within a professional set up ( they did )

    Harsh, but that is as far as loyalty goes in football.

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  • Ron Knee

    Sep 4, 2017 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #35

    #OnThisDay in 2008:

    Kevin Keegan resigned as manager of #NUFC over disagreements with the club hierarchy about transfer policy.

    Nice to see we’ve moved on since then. Lessons learnt, etc.!

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  • posada

    Sep 4, 2017 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #36

    MA bought NUFC as he had a lot of money in cash after the sale of 50% of SD.
    At that time the club was owned by several parties.
    In my view he wanted to get out right ownership.
    Then sell for a profit to whoever.
    The financial down turn partly put an end to that idea.
    He was then obliged to take a more long term view.

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  • Belfast

    Sep 4, 2017 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #37

    Jib and lochinvar

    I’ve just recommend both of you to my old pal Kim in North Korea, who’s employing two new staff for his pr machine in Pyongjang, after two long serving staff were accidentally murdered on Saturday.

    Rafa was likely pissed off after spending the best part of 10 days desperately trying to shift players out to make way for newbies and has then been informed by Charmless, after chopping about 200k a week of the wage bill, that we were closed for business. (Hence the constipated face) 🙁

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  • hibbit

    Sep 4, 2017 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #38

    AncientC

    simple mate he doesn’t need the cash and the benefits are huge

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Sep 4, 2017 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #39

    Good afternoon Ron…lessons are always learned here mate

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  • martoon

    Sep 4, 2017 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #40

    posada @33 – They maybe millionaires on nice contracts but they are still human. I just don’t see the need to treat them like pariah because they are not in the manager’s plans anymore!

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