Rafa Comments On Lejeune’s Mistake – He Could Have Been The Hero


Newcastle were leading 2-1 with good goals from Isaac Hayden and Ayoze Perez with just 15 minutes to play but then Florian Lejeune made a mistake and challenged Saints striker Shane Long in the penalty box.

Never a good thing to do with the Irishman who has a habit of falling down whenever he’s touched in the area and yes – he did fall down and referee Kevin Friend gave a penalty.

And it was probably just about a valid penalty although there was minimal contact between the two players.

And yes – I am biased about Shane.

But Florian should never have put in the challenge and it’s something he will learn from this game and in truth he had a good game apart from this one error.

Florian Lejeune – good performance but one mistake

With a few minutes to play Florian was almost the hero when he had a powerful header from a Matt Ritchie corner kicked off the line, otherwise, he would have been the hero.

This is what Rafa said about Florian’s error after the game:

“I didn’t see the replay.

“From the bench, it seems it was a penalty, and you just want him to manage things a little bit better.”

“After, he could have been the hero with the header, but that’s football. It didn’t happen, but it could be good for us.”

“Overall, I will say he was not playing since the game against Tottenham.”

“He was working very hard, and afterwards during the international break he was training with the team.”

“I’m happy, because he’s another good player that will give us more options and more competition in every position, in this case as a centre-back.”

The team wins together and loses together so it’s always difficult to pick out one player and one mistake – but as we said Florian will learn from this.

And we expect the Frenchman to be the first choice for Newcastle as he gets more games and gets better acclimatized to the Premier League.

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41 comments so far

  • AncientC

    Oct 16, 2017 at 2:47 PM

    Comment #1

    “Lemina is a player though he really is! he cost 20m + for a reason”

    Jayphoto, Lemina cost £18 million. Shelvey’s value was £26.5 million when we bought him, and his value has gone up since then, so by your own logic, Shelvey is a better player.

    What does it matter of Merino played or not, I said I wouldn’t swap the Southampton team for ours, that includes both Southampton’s and Newcastle’s players that were either on the bench, injured, or didn’t make the match day squad.

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  • AncientC

    Oct 16, 2017 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #2

    Btw, Ritchie has 4 assists in the league this season. Tadic doesn’t have any.

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  • AncientC

    Oct 16, 2017 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #3

    Double checked, Shelvey’s value with the CIES Football observatory was £23.5 million when he was signed. Just for accuracy.

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  • jimmysmith

    Oct 16, 2017 at 3:03 PM

    Comment #4

    I agree that Mitro should now be given his shot. Joselu hasn’t done quite enough and Mitrovic has served his penance. He has to succeed of course, but both Mitrovic and Josolu competing for the shirt is healthy, while having Mitro on the outer isn’t. I’d start with Mitro, Joselu on the bench, with the out of sorts Gayle to miss out, and soon to be moved on, with a fast breaking, Bellamy type player to replace him.

    Also think Merino can compete with Perez at 10. That gives us 4 quality players in the 3 midfield positions, and Diame as backup.

    The problem would be Merino then covering three positions, which of course is hard, because he will have 3 different instructions to play to and get his head around, at twenty and in a very technical and competitive league. But Perez can’t play all the games, and he’d be better there than Diame you’d think.

    We have 4 very good midfield players in Merino, Shelvey, Perez and Hayden. We will need only two more in the next few windows to join them to be very well served in that part of the pitch.

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  • Thump

    Oct 16, 2017 at 3:11 PM

    Comment #5

    Lejeune got unlucky. He was done by Long (kicking the ball away and shuffling in front of him), but we should never have been in that position in the first place. Same goes for their first – completely avoidable goal but the entire team collectively switched off.

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  • jimmysmith

    Oct 16, 2017 at 3:13 PM

    Comment #6

    I agree that Mitro should now be given his shot. Joselu hasn’t done quite enough and Mitrovic has served his penance. He has to succeed of course, but both Mitrovic and Josolu competing for the shirt is healthy, while having Mitro on the outer isn’t. I’d start with Mitro, Joselu on the bench, with the out of sorts Gayle to miss out, and soon to be moved on, with a fast breaking, Bellamy type player to replace him.

    Also think Merino can compete with Perez at 10. That gives us 4 quality players in the 3 midfield positions, and Diame as backup.

    The problem would be Merino then covering three positions, which of course is hard, because he will have 3 different instructions to play to and get his head around, at just twenty and in a very technical and competitive league, but he does appear capable of being that swing man that we would greatly benefit from, leaving the other three to focus on the one role. Perez can’t play all the games, and Merino would surely be far better competition up there than Diame you’d think.

    We have 4 very good midfield players in Merino, Shelvey, Perez and Hayden. We will need only two more in the next few windows to join them to be very well served in that part of the pitch.

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  • jayphoto

    Oct 16, 2017 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #7

    fair enough mate opinions are opinions, Id bet a lot that Lemina goes onto bigger things that shelvey myself. And leminas fee can go upto around 25m with performance and appearance add ons. Theyre both great talents to be fair, I just think Leminas mobility and work rate brings a bit more to a side. Im not knocking shelvey who is probably our most talented player.
    The key in any comparisons really is Rafa, swap just the managers around yesterday and give rafa southamptons players and Pellegino ours and I think the result would be a quite wide margin.. important not to lose sight of the fact that we have a champions league manager, but 3 or 4 players aside a championship squad playing far above their abilities partly due to how Rafa sets them up..
    In the last 2 years Southampton have finished 6th and 8th so its natural that their side is player for player stronger than ours in most positions

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  • jimmysmith

    Oct 16, 2017 at 3:20 PM

    Comment #8

    I think we actually have a lot of good players. Add Lascelles, Lejeune, Clark, Ritchie, Yedlin, Mitrovic, and one or two others who will improve, and we do have the beginnings of a very decent squad. A squad that could easily be transformed into a solid top 8 group in two windows under Benitez.

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Oct 16, 2017 at 3:22 PM

    Comment #9

    Thump yeah it was a silly challengeshould of ushered him and the ball out – BUT if you watch again I am sure that Long stubbs his toe into the ground as he miss-hits the ball before the challenge and was going down – If so clever but cynical

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  • jayphoto

    Oct 16, 2017 at 3:24 PM

    Comment #10

    Was at the game, honestly thought LeJeune was our best player up until he gave away the pen, him and lascelles looked solid together and hes quicker than I thought, sprayed some decent passes around and carried the ball out of defence comfortably on occasion.. seems hes a fan of a burst forward.
    Shelvey put himself about well too, his longer passing was strangely wayward a lot of the time though but was good to see him continuously trying to get involved.
    Hayden and Ritchie worked tirelessly too!
    Interestingly they seemed to target yedlin. Manquillo looked decent too actually. Thought Elliot was a bit slow down to their first, it was hardly right in the corner or hit with power.
    Live, Joselu seemed to be getting dragged a bit wide and deep to me, he worked really hard and his hold up play looked good but felt he was never an option higher up and his movement wasn’t particularly good which is something he impressed me with in past games

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  • jimmysmith

    Oct 16, 2017 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #11

    I think Long played for the pen, got clattered, and won it. His manager will be delighted with him. Smart attacking play. Sort of thing Aguerro would have done.

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  • AncientC

    Oct 16, 2017 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #12

    Lejeune did great apart from that one error, I have my doubts about it being a penalty, Long was no longer in possession of the ball, so aside from that—great start from Lejeune. What a different compared Mbiwa’s baptism of fire.

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  • AncientC

    Oct 16, 2017 at 3:29 PM

    Comment #13

    jayphoto, if we finish above Southampton this season, you may start to agree we have the better squad. I do believe we will. A league table around New Year will give a good indication.

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  • jimmysmith

    Oct 16, 2017 at 3:35 PM

    Comment #14

    It surely doesn’t matter if Long was still in possession of the ball. I agree he’d most probably knocked it too far ahead of himself, but Lejeune took his legs away and went through him, didn’t get near the ball just after Longs touch. Badly mistimed in the box with the player running out of pitch and shooting angle, and that is a big error from a centre back, who has otherwise looked tip top.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 16, 2017 at 3:43 PM

    Comment #15

    If we’re going to be fair we really can’t complain about the penalty after what Yedlin got away with. The players didn’t seem to contest it too much, there’s no mention of it being dubious in any reports either. We have to take that one on the chin.

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  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Oct 16, 2017 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #16

    Jay…it a fair point about Perez! Personally I just think that you get what you get when we play the brand of football Rafa wants to play at the moment…Perez plays the way Rafa wants and he does a lot of defensive duties (beside the running and closing down), this impacts his “ability” to do a lot of the creative stuff we all want from a #10

    …most often you cannot have it both ways. What I am hoping for is that our style will evolve over time as we get better and of course safe.

    My point before was that I am just happy to see someone else in the #10 spot because it will definitely change the dynamics of the discussions when it comes to Perez (and being on his case)…

    I will though agree with anyone who says Perez needs to be more consistent, but for me he’s been on of the five most important players so far this season.

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  • AncientC

    Oct 16, 2017 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #17

    I doubt Long would have received a free-kick for that tackle, had it happened higher up the pitch. Look at what Harry Kane got away with, against Lejeune himself. The ball was going out of play on that occasion too.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 16, 2017 at 3:51 PM

    Comment #18

    Jesper,
    I take it you watched the match yesterday then?

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  • AncientC

    Oct 16, 2017 at 3:52 PM

    Comment #19

    Yeah, scratch that, Kane did give away a free kick.

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Oct 16, 2017 at 4:05 PM

    Comment #20

    I hope Perez can kick on when he scored he looked a lot more confident before he got took off him Atsu and Richie are constantly on the move snapping at opposition players its great to watch and it means the other team can never settle!

    I thought Joselu would be a lot more confident after his goal at Liverpool but he looked tired which was strange considering he didn’t play international football !?! Not sure our current system gets the best out of him but not really sure what his best looks like !!

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  • giimps

    Oct 16, 2017 at 4:11 PM

    Comment #21

    I have to say,
    Long played for the pen as he knew he’d lost possession and as soon as he toe poked the ball out of play angled his body toward lejeune and started his descent.
    Lejeune I think was expecting a cross from Long and couldn’t pull out of the block.
    He shouldn’t feel bad about it as Long has history of doing this , it’s just a pity it cost us but I voted for a draw anyway so I’m quite pleased with a good point away from home from an established premier league team and historical bogey club recently at least.
    On to palace, they’ll come all guns blazing after a good win vs Chelski but our counter attacking style will more than likely be their undoing.

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  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Oct 16, 2017 at 4:22 PM

    Comment #22

    I’d have been upset if we hadn’t got a penalty in the same situation, so no complaints from me.

    The only bad moment in a very good game for him, just a pity it was such a crucial one to the overall result.

    Still wondering when we’ll get a penalty award, deserved or otherwise.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 16, 2017 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #23

    I wonder what type of reception Townsend will get. Wijnaldum got some mild jeers but not much. I’d have definitely had Townsend back but really did think he turned his back on us for all the wrong reasons, he’d be back in the England team if he’d stayed with us and Rafa, Saturday will be interesting. Hope Murphy comes on and rips them a new one in front of him.

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  • toontaff2

    Oct 16, 2017 at 4:43 PM

    Comment #24

    JFA – are you saying ex-Ingerland legendary manager Uncle Woy cannot get the best out of Andwos?

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  • sparky55

    Oct 16, 2017 at 4:50 PM

    Comment #25

    Palace is another banana skin just like Brighton..No doubt I’ll get blasted for saying this but with their pace on the break and the fact they’ve got all the belief in the world having just beaten Chelsea…I’ll be happy with a draw.

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  • Jib

    Oct 16, 2017 at 5:01 PM

    Comment #26

    Sky

    Breaking

    Ashley has club up for sale and wants deal done by Xmas

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  • Shoulders knees

    Oct 16, 2017 at 5:04 PM

    Comment #27

    Great news

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  • Shoulders knees

    Oct 16, 2017 at 5:06 PM

    Comment #28

    Maybe just maybe ?

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Oct 16, 2017 at 5:06 PM

    Comment #29

    Club up for sale

    NUFC statement from St James Holdings

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  • beermonkey

    Oct 16, 2017 at 5:11 PM

    Comment #30

    sparky

    it was zaha that has sparked palace into life, i think there fragile and an early goal from us will see the doubts return
    but we will have to keep an eye on townsend zaha and cabs all three can be dangerous

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  • beermonkey

    Oct 16, 2017 at 5:13 PM

    Comment #32

    jail

    townsend went back to london for the city and more money

    1
  • hibbit

    Oct 16, 2017 at 5:13 PM

    Comment #33

    Charlie in the Gallowgate@ 27

    any more information ?????????

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  • g.s.tooner

    Oct 16, 2017 at 5:14 PM

    Comment #34

    It’s happening –

    As a result of increasing press speculation regarding the future of Newcastle United, the owner of the club, St. James Holdings Limited, wishes to clarify its intentions.
    As one of the Premier League’s oldest and best supported football clubs – and for the benefit of its many fans and supporters in the UK and across the world – Newcastle United requires a clear direction and a path to a bright and successful future.

    To give the club the best possible opportunity of securing the positioning and investment necessary to take it to the next level, at what is an important time in its history, its present ownership has determined that it is in the best interests of Newcastle United and its fans for the club to be put up for sale.

    To give an incoming owner the maximum possible flexibility to make meaningful investment in the club, including in its playing squad, the sale process will give interested parties the opportunity of deferring substantial payments.

    A process will now commence of identifying new ownership for the club that will be capable of delivering the sustained investment in and dedication to the club that is necessary for it to achieve its ambitions.

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  • Jib

    Oct 16, 2017 at 5:14 PM

    Comment #35

    Bam bams
    His name will be changing to
    Jail for New Owner
    😀

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  • Shoulders knees

    Oct 16, 2017 at 5:16 PM

    Comment #37

    Hibbert
    Official announcement club up for sale , wants it done by December, if it’s not he will give Rafa cash for window. He will allow buyer to make staged payments

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  • Jib

    Oct 16, 2017 at 5:17 PM

    Comment #38

    Ashley’s lawyer has stated that only prospective
    buyers with real ambition for the club will be considered

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  • Shoulders knees

    Oct 16, 2017 at 5:17 PM

    Comment #39

    Sorry Hibbitt predictive text

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  • sparky55

    Oct 16, 2017 at 5:26 PM

    Comment #40

    Howay man lads…this is old news…all they’ve done is confirm it.

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