A Subdued Rafa Benitez Unhappy After Newcastle Defeat – Video


A very subdued and rather unhappy Rafa Benitez was disappointed with the result against Bournemouth today when we created so many chances in the first half – but we missed the lot.

Rafa was not looking for any excuses and it was a hard defeat to take with Bournemouth’s winning goal coming in the 92nd minute.

Rafa Benitez – on the sidelines

Here’s Rafa’s Sky Sports interview after the game today when you get the sense he didn’t want to do this interview.

He said he was happy with Newcastle progress in the league before this game but disappointed after the game.

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  • Tsunki

    Nov 4, 2017 at 5:53 PM

    Comment #1

    Manxpie for goodness sake man tell me what guarantee have you that the powerhouse mitrovic, scorer of a handful of goals over several seasons , will turn our game around? Did he save us from relegation?

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  • YoungMag :P

    Nov 4, 2017 at 5:54 PM

    Comment #2

    At first I thought it was a joke that people wanted him gone, but people are actually that insane. Madness.

    You guys aren’t looking at the bigger picture.

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  • AncientC

    Nov 4, 2017 at 5:58 PM

    Comment #3

    Tsunki “how are we not largely a championship squad?”.

    We have a squad of players with top flight experience on PL level wages. Yes, we did have the best squad in the championship, people were talking about Newcastle possibly being the best squad to ever play in the Championship and Shelvey the best ever player to play in that division.

    Elliot & Darlow have PL experience.
    Yedlin
    Clark
    Mbemba
    Lascelles is PL quality
    Merino
    Shelvey
    Diame
    Ritchie
    Atsu, played for Porto and a Chelsea product, lower PL level
    Gayle
    Mitrovic with 9 goals in his first season in a very poor side
    Joselu has plenty of top flight experience, ask him if he would play in the Championship, it wouldn’t happen

    I am unsure how you could equate our squad as being mostly Championship level. There is no other Championship side that could afford our squad, nor could likely lure any of our players.

    I wouldn’t swap our side for the players Burnley and Bournemouth have. The side is clearly a lower half PL squad.

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  • AncientC

    Nov 4, 2017 at 5:59 PM

    Comment #4

    You could possibly even argue Colback and Manquillo are lower half PL players. Not forgetting Gamez who came from Atletico Madrid with CL experience.

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  • Slank

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:00 PM

    Comment #5

    REPOST

    msk21dec,

    If we could get a new owner before January and if he is prepared to spend big and if there are quality players available it could conceivably be more ‘ifs’ than is realistically possible.

    But that is not to say it cannot happen. Sometimes Father Christmas comes early.

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  • GeordieTwo

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:00 PM

    Comment #6

    The days of Happy Rafa might be over. We have been poor for a while now. One win in the last six. We don’t have anywhere near a strong enough squad. We’re being found out. Money must be spent on a striker in January or the season could be in jeopardy.

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  • YoungMag :P

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:01 PM

    Comment #7

    They can have experience at this level and not be good enough. That’s how teams get relegated. Most of those players aren’t good enough, or we wouldn’t be struggling against other promotion sides and Bournemouth at home.

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  • manxpie

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #8

    And mitro the ” international” ancient our only international striker btw

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  • Tsunki

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #9

    Manxpie I’m sure you had a point but blowed if anyone can fathom it. Good that it keeps you laughing though. Carry on.

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  • manxpie

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:03 PM

    Comment #10

    Youngmag simpson was deemed championship standard on here then goes and wins the league its a load of rubbish

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  • NoahJ

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:03 PM

    Comment #11

    Defensively we look fine (Clark was excellent when he came on, and Elliot outstanding);
    Midfield has individual good performances (I think shelvey, atsu and ritchie all played well)
    The reason we have lost the last two games is because we have absolutely nothing going forward. Joselu and Perez are simply not good enough. Gayle looked bright for the fist half but faded (no doubt due to match fitness). I think we need to give Mitro another go, at least in the game against watford

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  • catchy in norway

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:04 PM

    Comment #12

    HIS pig headednes and a poor linesman cost us points today.

    i really dont likw joselu, manquillio murphy, these are his buys

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  • toon kk

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:04 PM

    Comment #13

    Blaming Rafa is ridiculous, yes he’s made mistakes sticking with Joselu is a mistory. What a absolute waste of money.
    But we’re a small step above a championship squad which has no proven striker, Mitro maybe a fans favourite but he’s still limited in quality. We need investment in the squad to move forward.

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  • Ninjacent

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:05 PM

    Comment #14

    Another disappointment in regards to result, but Overall a better performance. We are 11th, could be higher and also a lot lower. Rafa has done a great job with the squad and expectations required, I would love to see Mitro, but Rafa believe that he cannot be trusted as he has let him down on numerous occasions due to his discipline.

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  • YoungMag :P

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:05 PM

    Comment #15

    In a fluke season manxpie. He’s still not a good player.

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  • manxpie

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:05 PM

    Comment #16

    Tsunki ok how can you say its very likely that we would of had the same results if mitro played?

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  • YoungMag :P

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:07 PM

    Comment #17

    For once I agree with you toon kk.

    People are not seeing how well Rafa has done with what he has.

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  • Tsunki

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:07 PM

    Comment #18

    Ancient sorry mate have to disagree. Joselu is going to have to get used to being a champo player because he has gravitated steadily there.

    Clark has been pretty solid but as yet,but his being dropped shows he hasn’t quite made the pl his home yet. Elliot? Hmm. Quite a few of these players dropped into the championship do by deginition…. I agree on the core of four or five players but the squad as a whole is good championship . I’m impressed with the juice Rafa has squeezed from it so far. It needs improving. Badly.

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  • Tsunki

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:08 PM

    Comment #19

    Manxpie where are you going with this?

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  • The next Mike Williamson

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:10 PM

    Comment #20

    Nearly all our players are lower-middle EPL standard. The trouble is we need a few who are top ten standard, and at least one who is good enough to interest the big teams. If we sold our first eleven this is where I’d see them going:
    Elliot – Upper Championship/ Lower EPL
    Manqillo – Upper Championship
    Yedlin – Lower EPL
    Lejuenes – Jury out Mid EPL perhaps
    Lascelles – Top 10 EPL
    Clark – Lower EPL
    Dummet – Upper Championship
    Mbemba – Mid/ Lower EPL
    Hayden – Lower EPL
    Shelvey – Top 10 EPL
    Merino – Top 7 EPL
    Atsu – Upper Championship/ Lower EPL
    Ritchie – Top 10 EPL
    Perez – Upper Championship
    Gayle – Lower EPL
    Mitro – Mid/ Lower EPL
    Joselu- Upper Championship
    On the whole, that is a premier league team.

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  • toon king

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:10 PM

    Comment #21

    youngmag

    I myself think their is still the risk rafa himself will walk out. I think being put up for sale has given rafa reason to still remain as club manager himself but if by jan we are still owned by ashley and the signs of a take over are not shown rafa himself might well be looking at walking out. The only thing stopping it would be ashley himself allowing rafa some money to bring in a striker decent enough to score goals.

    We must avoid dragging ourselves too deeply into the relegation fight because the further we go into it the less keen an owner will be in buying us.

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  • manxpie

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:11 PM

    Comment #22

    Simply you had a go at me for wanting a change to our woeful attack and said how do i know that mitro would change anything and then go on to say you know he wouldnt so how?

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  • toon kk

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:11 PM

    Comment #23

    When we had players like Shearer, Carroll and Ba for example we would walk out onto the pitch and we knew if they were given half a chance the ball was in the back of the net, in recent years that threat has totally gone leaving us a toothless team.

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  • Toonfan8

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:13 PM

    Comment #24

    First of all, yes I thank Rafa for solving out our defence, but in attack we are really bad, we are crying for Mitro, Joselu is shite, Perez is shite…Mbemba is also better than Manquillo, even Haidara is much better, Aarons better than Murphy. I do not know why Rafa always stick with Joselu, Manquillo, Perez, but I think it is because they are Spanish. Mitro would boost our attack, alone better than Joselu and Perez and Tsunki, you made fools of everybody, only you and Rafa knows, others dont….we have better options, he did this with Shelvey last year, then it was clear he was our most influential players, same was with Sels, he made mistakes at every attemp and he still put him there. We have better options, for now this is our best team I think….Elliot-Yedlin,Lascelles,Lejeune,Mbemba-Ritchie,Shelvey,Hayden,Atsu-Merino-Mitrovic….bench Haidara, Clark, Colback, Aarons, Diame, Gayle….Joselu, Manquillo, Saivet, Perez, Gamez on the stand

    and you told that Mitro played in our relegation season and did not save us, you did not remember that Rafa didnt save us either? Do not make a God from him please, he is good defensive manager, but not a god, we are playing good in defensive phase of the game, but horrible in offensive and he has better options there…

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  • YoungMag :P

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:13 PM

    Comment #25

    If Rafa walks this club is doomed.

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  • msk21dec

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:14 PM

    Comment #26

    toonking, not quite. you see to take risks what you can do is get mitro up top with joselu. go direct and have players like atsu, ritchie, gayle in box when mitro and joselu get any knockdowns and that should keep bournemouth boxed in. not doing stuff like that gives bounemouth a chance to play as theyve done all 2nd half and take risks going forward as they know they wont be boxed in as they should be by a home team looking to win. stokes deadly weapon is crouch on last few minutes to win knock downs. its a tactic used to get a goal thats needed. benitez doesnt have that kind of thinking in his head. benitez style is ‘change personnel and see if they can do better than the guy theyve replaced’

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  • msk21dec

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:14 PM

    Comment #27

    slank, with Benitez style of not taking any risks to win games I dont have much hope to be honest even if we spend 500 mill in january. Its not just about having world class players its all unleashing these players to win us games not hold them back which i believe benitez is doing. hes too defensive minded. I dont see us being sold before january as tbh i expect an announcement of a bid being made by now to have any of chance of that. If we get sold it will be after season end i think as it makes more sense time wise and the checks that goes on nowadays. its not easy to buy a football club than it was before.

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  • Slank

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:16 PM

    Comment #28

    From the latest posts most people think, myself included, that we are very fortunate to have such a good and experienced manager in Rafa. Overall the team looks more solid and organised than it has been for years.

    The disquiet from quite a few, my self included, is the perceived appearance that Rafa’s reluctance or is it stubbornness to recognise that certain players he regularly favours are not necessarily better than others who he rarely picks.

    Mitrovich and Mbemba are good cases. I rate them higher than Joselu and Manquillo.

    I was pleased he played Gayle, who I thought played well, but was very dissapointed that he chose Perez over Mitrovich and even more dissapointed that he chose the very inexperienced Murphy over the more experienced and rumbustious Mitrovich.

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  • Slank

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:22 PM

    Comment #29

    Toonfan8

    ‘..do not know why Rafa always stick with Joselu, Manquillo, Perez..’

    Spanish ?

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  • Tsunki

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:22 PM

    Comment #30

    Ha I know you like having a dig at me manxpie but give me a break i said likely not definitely, unlike you I’m not asserting there are DEFINITELY better options. I’m saying across the board we have a championship squad bolstered by a handful of middling to lower (as some got us relegated, remember) pl standard players who are being marshalled to the best of their abilities to average out pl survival.

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  • Slank

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:24 PM

    Comment #31

    msk21dec @ 27

    I agree.

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  • Tsunki

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:25 PM

    Comment #32

    This is a good one. Rafa should take “risks” to win games? Does anyone know how “risks” tend to finish up? 🙂

    Like someone who “risks” a dash across a motorway to retrieve his hat. Or the gambler who risks his last few quid of housekeeping on an outside bet horse? Rafa isn’t into risks, thankfully.

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  • Toonfan8

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:26 PM

    Comment #33

    Tsunki we do not have the squad to be top 6, but another teams are at the same level like us…top 6 is ahead of everybody miles away from us…but 7 to 20, there is little difference between…

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  • Tsunki

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:28 PM

    Comment #34

    Hark back to the beginning of the season. Most here said survival would be key. Getting higher than tenth was laughed off. And that was with the assumption Rafa would be backed with a few decent signings. Amnesia working out ok for anyone?

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  • jimiley

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:28 PM

    Comment #35

    We have started to buy crap Spanish players just like we used to buy crap French ones. Wheel has turned full circle. One constant is that most are crap. Merino excepted.
    You cannot score. You go down. We know that from experience. If you cannot score you are always liable to let one in. Citeh will let one in but instead of scoring zero they score 4 or 5 so conceding is never an issue. Its excuse time to say you made a mistake to let one in. The honest answer is that you cannot score. Most teams would be happy to let in a goal a game……. as long as they average two in response.

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  • Tsunki

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:28 PM

    Comment #36

    Toonfan exactly – little difference. Except possibly the manager.

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  • jane

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:29 PM

    Comment #37

    exactly right Tsunki when you say ‘average out pl survival’ or put it another way percentage football. Rafa may have settled for the point towards the end which would have been a valuable point but it didn’t pay off this time.

    we started 6 points and better goal difference above the relegation zone and are still 6 points above and West Ham are losting 0-2. Rafa and i would have taken this after 11 games at the start of the season.

    now we go and win at Old Trafford next game…

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  • Tsunki

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:30 PM

    Comment #38

    Anyway it’s been great here in the parallel universe, back to reality for dinner. Later ha ha.

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  • Toonfan8

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:30 PM

    Comment #39

    Tsunki yes Rafa doesnt gamble, he doesnt like goals, that is why he sorted out our defense, and also attack now, he is magician and wants to protect also teams we play against, that is why he is putting there Joselu and Perez, because them scoring is more accident than intention 🙂

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  • toon king

    Nov 4, 2017 at 6:30 PM

    Comment #40

    When debating whether our team is premier league class or championship class does anyone actually know what premier league class is?

    Look at the performance of Burnley, Watford, both have teams which on paper would be deemed poor but right now they both sitting at the top of the table.

    Then you’ve got teams such as Everton and west ham both sitting right down at the lower end of the table.

    Promoted teams Brighton and Huddersfield Town were expected to be down at the bottom of the table but are currently sitting mid table. Then you have teams such as stoke city, southampton and leicester city who’ve came up from the championship to become a team we’d view beatable but difficult.

    Are we really a championship side or has the premier league itself simply became a chamionship league along side a mini top 6 league?

    I myself think it’s got like that. Teams below the top 6 have become teams with very simular strength buying what ever they can afford to by to help keep them away from relegation whilst the other 6 teams continuously steal every decent player away from the rest.

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