Hayden Explains Why Ashley Not The Right Owner For Newcastle – Everything Will Come Together With Takeover


We have slipped into the relegation zone after our 8th defeat in 9 games at the Emirates on Saturday.

That’s the worst stretch of results since we started this blog over ten and a half years ago and it’s very painful.

But the lads played well at Arsenal especially in the second half, and that gives us some hope we can start winning games again.

Maybe that can be at West Ham on Saturday – a win in that game would be a terrific first win since way back on October 21st.

Issac Hayden has been doing the rounds on the interview circuit, and he talks today about owner Mike Ashley in the Guardian.

He rightly explains why Mike Ashley is not the right owner for Newcastle and he is quite polite about it too.

Mike Ashley – Newcastle’s current owner

This is some of what Hayden has said in the interview:

“The target for the season has to be survival.”

“The club has so much potential but it’s never going to be realized under the current ownership. I don’t think it’s because Mike Ashley doesn’t want to realize it.”

“I think it’s that he can’t afford to fully realize it. Look at the Man City owners or the Glazers at United.”

“The money that has to be spent in the Premier League, just to be competitive at the top end of the table is absolutely crazy now.”

“He’s just not in that league and he genuinely cannot compete.”

“He’s trying to sell and it will be amazing for Newcastle when the takeover happens but in the meantime, it’s up to us to stay in the league.”

“We can do that, especially with Rafa as manager. Realistically, we can aim for 12th and up.”

“It’s about getting it right and if we stay in the league, as I believe we will, everything will come together.”

It does seem that our players are being distracted about what’s going on with the takeover – but they have to concentrate on their jobs.

That job is to start winning games again otherwise we could be a Championship club next season.

Nobody wants that to happen.

Comments welcome.


45 comments so far

  • hibbit

    Dec 19, 2017 at 2:40 PM

    Comment #1

    Ron/Lesh
    is the thinking now that the new owner / buyer has been put forward to the FA for approval and this is now the holdup ???

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  • Tsunki

    Dec 19, 2017 at 2:40 PM

    Comment #2

    Looks like Isaac was in with the lads for Mike’s “big talk” on this subject.

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  • YoungMag :P

    Dec 19, 2017 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #3

    Hayden knows then Rafa knows. They’ve all probably been told already.

    Just us fans in the dark it seems.

    Luckily for us Hayden is not very bright.

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  • Tsunki

    Dec 19, 2017 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #4

    Can’t afford to compete with the likes of Stratfield Turgis Harriers or the Towcester Terriers of this world….

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  • Tsunki

    Dec 19, 2017 at 2:43 PM

    Comment #5

    Or the sheer might of North Ferriby those guys are just chucking cash around like there’s no tomorrow.

    There is a tomorrow isn’t there? Ha ha.

    Seriously though, there is, isn’t there?

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  • Ron Knee

    Dec 19, 2017 at 2:44 PM

    Comment #6

    hibbit

    I’m just going on what Shire reported yesterday evening. Hope it’s true!

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  • Bambams

    Dec 19, 2017 at 2:44 PM

    Comment #7

    Quote from Hayden…..

    He’s trying to sell and it will be ‘amazing’ for Newcastle when the takeover happens 

    The selected word ‘Amazing’….

    Does sound like the players have a decent idea what the future holds

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  • hibbit

    Dec 19, 2017 at 2:45 PM

    Comment #8

    thanks Ron i must have missed that

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  • Tsunki

    Dec 19, 2017 at 2:45 PM

    Comment #9

    “amazing” and “when”!

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  • Belfast

    Dec 19, 2017 at 2:50 PM

    Comment #10

    Or he could just be reading rumors like everybody else.

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  • AncientC

    Dec 19, 2017 at 2:50 PM

    Comment #11

    ‘Vote: Should Sunderland re-sign Jack Colback from Newcastle?’
    https://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/sunderland-afc/vote-should-sunderland-re-sign-jack-colback-from-newcastle-1-8918129

    Get your votes in folks. You never know, it may help.

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Dec 19, 2017 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #12

    Frank

    From 2 threads back, I stated the daily express will have first knowledge about the deal when it finally comes out as to why I said keep an eye out on the express, I didn’t state when or where it will be announced about the takeover as I have no idea when it will be released.

    Lesh

    You could be right about the FA and how they are involved as they are basically the premier league bosses and they have a say in this matter and also they would also need to agree on the NDA contract for the buyer and seller and also themselfs.

    Kimbo

    Change your story mate as it’s annoying, repeated and boring to a extent you need to look at the facts in principle and as many have stated and you haven’t answered accordingly WHO would you bring in as manager who could sort this team out? We will await your answer!

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  • Ron Knee

    Dec 19, 2017 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #13

    Belfast

    I think he’s posting in good faith.

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  • Belfast

    Dec 19, 2017 at 2:54 PM

    Comment #14

    I’m talking about Hayden not Bambams Ron.

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  • Frank pingles come sock

    Dec 19, 2017 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #15

    Cheers / Nezza

    If true … do you know how / why the daily express will break the news

    Also …. do you know if deal is done ?

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  • Ron Knee

    Dec 19, 2017 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #16

    Sorry, Belfast!

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  • Frank pingles come sock

    Dec 19, 2017 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #17

    I am hungry for any sort of news (as you can tell)

    My heads battered

    I hate being a newcastle fan under Ashley (he sucks the life out the club)

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  • Essex Geordie

    Dec 19, 2017 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #18

    Clearest indicator yet that the takeover is happening. Quoting Hayden ‘when the takeover happen’ not if but when. Thanks shirebrook, hibbit and others for keeping us posted on their snippets of information. Ithadto come out eventually.
    HTL

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  • Frank pingles come sock

    Dec 19, 2017 at 2:57 PM

    Comment #19

    Only some many times you could

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  • Frank pingles come sock

    Dec 19, 2017 at 2:58 PM

    Comment #20

    You can (I mean)

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  • Ron Knee

    Dec 19, 2017 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #21

    Frank

    Richard “Dirty” Desmond owns the Express and, according to the Daily Heil:

    “The meeting (at the restaurant) was set up by newspaper mogul and mutual friend Richard Desmond, with he and Staveley looking close and happy after dinner with Ashley and his wife in the low key London curry house.”

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  • manxpie

    Dec 19, 2017 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #22

    Well that shows that it IS on the players minds and could (but shouldn’t) be effecting them

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  • Moonraker15

    Dec 19, 2017 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #23

    Barnsley have been bought by a Chinese billionaire! If we go down this season we’ll be overtaken by all these “emerging “ clubs; Wolves, Cardiff, etc etc, and we’ll struggle to get back to the Prem! If Ashley is still here he’ll preside over our complete humiliation worse than the mackems!

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  • Belfast

    Dec 19, 2017 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #24

    I really can’t see the club letting it drag on much longer to be honest. I know they’re thick as mince like, but i’d expect some kind of announcement that a sale has been agreed in principle and it’s pending Fa approval. The alternative is 4-8 weeks of more speculation and I don’t think they’ll let that happen considering we’ve been shite from this all started.

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Dec 19, 2017 at 3:03 PM

    Comment #25

    One thing that did worry me was Rafa interview about the January window and he talked to Lee about this and what is needed!?

    Obviously he’s the MD of Newcastle but I fear the most when January comes and the club state we couldn’t get him in as not enough funds because this alone shows how the takeover is progressing and it could be a bad thing as it shows Mike is not selling up.

    On the other hand though before people gloom in negativity because of my post Lee Charnley who was at the club before Mike Ashley may well be kept on as a MD due to experience and knowledge until the new buyers make a choice on him, other words Lee will be trying everything to keep Rafa happy.

    This January will be the general idea of the takeover and this 30 million personally is a load of rubbish and it’s what the media cooked up for a story, see it this way…. if Rafa gets the players he wants in January the takeover is basically completed…. but if it’s the same fiasco as other Windows no deal has been done now and is awaiting until the season is over to make purchase.

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  • hibbit

    Dec 19, 2017 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #26

    Belfast

    it needs to be in place before the window opens to give Rafa a budget and maximum time to get players in

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  • Tsunki

    Dec 19, 2017 at 3:11 PM

    Comment #27

    Let’s face it if this deal is not finalised to a large extent by the beginning of January we better get used to wearing wellies as we will be permanently in the clarts.

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  • Tsunki

    Dec 19, 2017 at 3:11 PM

    Comment #28

    Plodging in the clarts.

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Dec 19, 2017 at 3:11 PM

    Comment #29

    Frank

    No idea on the subject of the takeover but i believe something is in place and that a deal has been agreed.

    For instant I’ve enquired about a commercial property and it’s been a month now and I’ve heard nowt back from the local council who own the property (bank reference sent out 2 weeks ago)

    Now because of the inept council another person has came forward about the property and now it’s going to be delayed even further!

    This is the same principle to all businesses (with or without council involved) as to why it’s taking time to get everything resolved and agreed and to think a football club has many financial situations to be agreed on before a full takeover.

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  • JackButler

    Dec 19, 2017 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #30

    If this deal had been simple and straight forward I would have been amazed as everything about NUFC is a bloody circus.

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  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Dec 19, 2017 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #31

    Well yes Ashley probably cannot compete financially now, but it’s only the last 2 or so seasons where player prices have gone a bit silly, he could have easily put some cash in prior to that and even last season without bankrupting himself or the club.

    Sorry Issac but I think you are hedging your bets and not really saying what you’d like to say.

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  • YoungMag :P

    Dec 19, 2017 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #32

    We should do a poll to see how many people actually want Rafa out.

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  • NezzaNUFC

    Dec 19, 2017 at 3:23 PM

    Comment #33

    Guy’s here’s a question for yous…

    Where is the 120+ million free interest loan?

    As in which account holdings, Ashley or Newcastle business bank account?

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  • JackButler

    Dec 19, 2017 at 3:23 PM

    Comment #34

    Why would anyone want Raffa out?

    Are you kidding me?

    What great tactician or coach of any worth would come within a million miles of us?

    I’m amazed he hasn’t walked away already as we’ve become a sick joke

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  • GeordieTwo

    Dec 19, 2017 at 3:26 PM

    Comment #35

    The offer once Ashley is finished “working” with the club:
    Amanda: “look Mike I’ll give you this nice new 10 pound note, AND the men’s briefs you wanted AND a nice bottle of champers. This is my final offer Mike after you waited so long the club was basically worthless.”

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  • kimbo

    Dec 19, 2017 at 3:26 PM

    Comment #36

    NezzaNufc,
    “your story mate as it’s annoying, repeated and boring to a extent you need to look at the facts in principle and as many have stated and you haven’t answered”
    Yes it is a bit like going to the match repeated and boring under Rafa. All I am saying is Rafa is partly to blame and all who see him with Rose Tinted Glasses are you really happy with his style of football, do you want to be entertained?
    Maybe I was spoilt in the Keegan days and we will never see that style again, that was entertainment even when we got beat. Burnley away on a Monday night to get beat 1-0 if you are happy with that style then you are easily pleased.

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  • GeordieTwo

    Dec 19, 2017 at 3:28 PM

    Comment #37

    Use Occam’s razor when it comes to things like this lads. The simplest explanation is usually correct. That means no deal has been signed yet, not that we’ll hear when the FA has concluded it’s part.

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  • GeordieTwo

    Dec 19, 2017 at 3:30 PM

    Comment #38

    If Ashley doesn’t realize the club is in free fall by now because of him, then possibly some of the idiots that work for him should point it out. We’ve dropped from 7th to 18th in 8 weeks. Can you not work that out Mike Thickey Ashley?

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  • GeordieTwo

    Dec 19, 2017 at 3:32 PM

    Comment #39

    There is no doubt that a relegation clause has been inserted in the deal by now and Ashley is stamping his feet and having a tantrum about it. The price is also not where he wants it, but he has caused that.

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  • JackButler

    Dec 19, 2017 at 3:32 PM

    Comment #40

    Kimbo

    What do you expect with this current squad? Fast, attacking, free flowing football?

    This is easily the weakest squad any manager has had at his disposal under Ashley.

    Ashley has stripped everything he can out of the playing side of the club, that after stripping god knows how much in tv money, transfers and all that lovely free sponsorship.

    But the style of football is boring?

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