Sir John Hall Worried About Relegation – Wants Newcastle Sold Quickly – Club Can Be Great Again

Sir John Hall has been interviewed in the Star today and talks about the takeover, which has badly stalled due to Amanda Staveley and Mike Ashley being unable to agree on a price for the club.

Sir John was the Chairman when Kevin Keegan started to take us into the top two of the Premier League back in the mid-90s – one of the most exciting times in the history of the Newcastle club – even if we didn’t win anything.

Everything seemed to be going well, but the takeover talks started to stall when Newcastle went on that terrible run of getting only one point from the last nine games.

In the last five games, we have won three of them, so we are hoping Newcastle are back to playing like we did at the beginning of the season.

Sir John Hall – we can compete with the very best again

That’s the hope in any case, and if can beat Swansea City tomorrow – that would be another excellent win.

This is some of what Sir John Hall has said about the takeover:

“I’m just a fan now, and like everyone else, I want to know what’s happening.”

“Mike Ashley has obviously made up his mind to sell up, but for whatever reason, it’s taking an awful long time for him to do it.”

“The clock is ticking, and this stalemate is not doing the club any good at all.”

“Rafa Benitez is working with what is essentially a Championship squad. He’s doing his best, but there is a worrying lack of quality out there.”

“I know Mike doesn’t go to many games these days, but he must know the squad is in desperate need of improvement.”

“Newcastle have gone down twice in the last decade and managed to bounce back at the first attempt.”

“If the worst happened this time, I dread to think what the future might hold because it’s asking a lot to come straight back up again.”

“Hopefully, a deal can be finalized in the next few weeks, but if not, Mike must realize Rafa still needs to make some signings.”

“People like myself and him are just caretakers passing through the club. The fans are there for life, and it’s up to us to give them what they deserve.”

“I read recently Manchester United’s worth £1.3B and Tottenham’s worth £800M.”

“Everyone knows Newcastle’s potential and, with the right investment, there is no reason we can’t be competing with the very best again.”

Newcastle are in a bit of a mess at the moment, but the most important thing is that we continue to win as many games as possible – that’s what is really important to the club right now.

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279 comments so far

  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 12, 2018 at 3:35 PM

    Comment #1

    Well thanks for selling to him John, as long as you done alright eh!

  • check the toastie

    Jan 12, 2018 at 3:43 PM

    Comment #2

    Could be worse, could be two years ago under Carver or three years ago under Parsnip.

    At least we still have Rafa, and it appears whatever happens in this window, Rafa will see the season out.

    Without him we are doomed. In Rafa we Trust.

  • check the toastie

    Jan 12, 2018 at 3:45 PM

    Comment #3

    Shame about Mbemba, quite liked him in relegation season, but maybe he just looked good playing with Saylor, Collo etc.. He does ball watch a fair bit, daydreams and lets runners go. Good ability but a bit dim I reckon.

  • DanToon

    Jan 12, 2018 at 3:49 PM

    Comment #4

    Jail, you beat me to it… He wasn’t bothered about the club when Ashley stuck some cash under his nose!
    Was the one and only time Ashley has done that n’all!

  • magscar

    Jan 12, 2018 at 3:51 PM

    Comment #5

    Getting harder and harder to know what to make of it. My best guess on what our ITK’s have posted is that if deal has been done but is awaiting some form of ratification (PL or otherwise?).

    Ashley won’t commit transfer funds as sale is pending but new owner(s) can’t yet commit any funds unless by a loan. Ashley may not be keen on a loan which if the worst happened and sale didn’t go ahead he had to then repay – effectively doing what he doesn’t want to do in first place.

    This new potential buyer is also hard to understand if sale is just in limbo – why would Bishop get involved if price set? Thought someone had already rubbished the supposed new buyer’s co.

    Haven’t seen Rafa’s presser so can’t judge his demeanor but from quotes seems he was playing everything with a straight bat and no change in his view. Obviously if delay is with PL then presumably there is nothing anyone can do but fully cooperate with process to accelerate it.

    Whatever is happening I can’t get away from what Ashley has done in previous January’s i.e. try to avoid relegation by bringing in players. Why if there isn’t a sale and his investment is once again in serious jeopardy would he not at least allow loans? Doesn’t make sense to me unless there has been a sale but funding the transfers is not possible for some reason as yet.

    Still as eternally optimistic fan hoping for a resolution which affords us best chance of staying up and then regroup in Summer 🙂

  • baty1963

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:01 PM

    Comment #6

    Going back to what Jail said about Sir John Hall he was spot on , people seem to forget that all of the Hall and the Shepherd family have been well paid both in terms of the money they got from shares and salaries taken far far exceeds the amounts they ever had to pay out of their own pockets,they are just as much to blame for the club being in this mess as much as Mike Ashley infact through out the club’s history the fans have been badly treated.In my humble opinion it’s about time we the fans get the respect we deserve let’s get these people out of our club.

  • Benton Toon Exile

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:12 PM

    Comment #8

    It was that old greedy T**T who sold to Ashley in the first place, while his business partner (Freddie Shepherd) fought for his life in hospital…And HE has the gaul to say he is a FAN!!!!

    Go away you greedy, horid old man…………..

  • stopper

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #9

    In relation to this supposed takeover.

    Can anyone provide information as to whether this takeover is following a similar pattern to others in the past. What I’m talking about is the total and absolute secrecy behind it.

    There has been no news from any side about any part of the process leaving only speculation….. other than the thumbs up sign at the end of the curry night and what did that really mean?

    If indeed what some believe the deal has been done and all that waits is the fit and proper ownership to be done by the FA why are we not told this. To what end does keeping this part of the process a secret.

    I understand that identities of prospective buyers may not wish to be known but why arnt we informed about the fit and proper owner stage.

    Is he conclusion the takeover process Newcastle is in is a normal process or that in fact no deal has yet been struck and the deal is in dead lock?

  • Shot Bru

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #10

    Hopefully hibbit and everyone else’s info is correct…I don’t doubt what they say.
    Ashley doesn’t give a toss, he ain’t gonna lend us any cash for the window, or borrow money off PCP either to fund transfers.

    He’s doing his best to put us in the worst possible position at the close of the window… this is his final 2 fingers up to the club fans and city.

    I just hope Rafa doesn’t walk on the 20th, he seems pretty relaxed.. almost too relaxed as if he has nothing to lose.

  • ilovetoon8788

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #11

    Takeover ain’t happening.. We are stuck with Ashley. There will be no in or out this window.

    Sooner we accept reality the better.

  • magscar

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #12

    Hall had come close to winning title with KK but his grand plans for Rugby Ice hockey and Basketball etc under his umbrella together with the switch to a Ltd Co began to affect matters. The arrival of Abramovich and all the hyper player price inflation he brought made Hall reassess the realities of the PL and he knew his and Newcastle’s opportunity had passed. Even under SBR we never looked likely to compete as consistently as we had earlier under KK in a very different PL which only got worse for clubs without the level of finance the then big boys enjoyed.

    Might seem strange to newer fans that not only us but likes of Norwich Blackburn and Leeds ( latter 2 did win it) pushed Man U until the rise of Chelsea. Man City have raised the bar even higher and without massive funding it is difficult to see us challenging them ( and others) anytime soon unless game itself is overhauled ( looks unlikely with Amazon etc on horizon) or Chelsea and Man City lose their backing ( also unlikely in forseeable future).

  • hibbit

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #13

    it’s being so cheerful that keeps you going ilovetoon8788 must be the life and soul of any party

  • Shot Bru

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #14


    It does seem to have taken an age for the takeover to materialise.

    I remember watching Sky Sports in October and some finance dood said the takeover probably wont happen until the summer.

    To me, John Hall is so far out of touch with football nowadays, when he can’t understand why it’s taking so long for the takeover to happen.

    By the way, has that cantervale account deposited any money into their account yet? Or does the account still exist?

  • ToonArmyMidlands

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:24 PM

    Comment #15

    Actually, I feel quite positive having just watched Rafa’s press conference. He seems relaxed and it’s almost like he is sweeping the questions about budget under the carpet. I still see a glint in his eye – his body language is not that of a man who is frustrated. Compared to how he came across last January (ie visibly angry and frustrated) this is like chalk and cheese. He know exactly what is going on.

    Importantly, he is still not referring to Ashley by name – the minute he says he has spoken to “Mike” and he has his budgie, that’s when I’ll start to worry…

  • ToonArmyMidlands

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #16

    Budgie = budget LOL

  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:29 PM

    Comment #17

    Not sure what to make of that, he was definitely putting on a brave face, hard to tell if he was masking frustration or not.

  • DubaiMicky

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:31 PM

    Comment #18


    Maybe the “new Bidder” is just trying to big himself up…. No-one thought of that one? Company registered in a PO Box? He reckons he was instrumental in the recent takeover of Barnsley (I think it was Barnsley), maybe he’s a bullshitter – weird that literally nobody had heard of his company before?

  • SecretSausage

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:31 PM

    Comment #19

    I keep asking myself why has Ashley pulled this stunt with the rumour of another bidder then if the deal is already signed off? that indicates nothing has been agreed.

  • SecretSausage

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #20

    I keep asking myself why has Ashley pulled this stunt with the rumour of another bidder then if the deal is already signed off? that indicates nothing has been agreed eh?

  • SecretSausage

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #21

    Seriously, I keep asking myself why has Ashley pulled this stunt with the rumour of another bidder then if the deal is already signed off? that indicates nothing has been agreed.

  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:33 PM

    Comment #22

    Why do you keep posting that. Twice?

  • Ron Knee

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:33 PM

    Comment #23


    Let’s hope he wasn’t resigned to getting little or nothing this window!

  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:34 PM

    Comment #24

    Are you taking the pi$$ you muppet!

  • hibbit

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:35 PM

    Comment #25

    he didn’t look like the condemned man to me
    looked in total control and comfortable with the situation

  • canny lad

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:38 PM

    Comment #26

    Waiting for info from the ITKs … with their sources so close to the deal that global media groups and local bloodhounds have so far failed to uncover their insights. Agreed before Xmas, LOL. Xmas, that time of the year where made up stories involving fat blokes start doing the rounds. Anyone over the age of 9 should know better.

  • ToonArmyMidlands

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:39 PM

    Comment #27


    Agreed. Very few people know for sure exactly what is actually going on – where we are at. Not the journos, nor the ITKs (although I do like getting the info Hibbet!)

    Rafa, however, knows exactly what is going on – he’s central to it. If he’s relaxed then so am I.

  • toonluvva

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:39 PM

    Comment #28

    Just a thought, some may agree and others may not.

    Let’s just say, for arguments sake, that Rafa is using the date of Jan 20th as some sort of “line in the sand” to our current owner. Give me some transfer money by then or I walk.

    And let’s imagine there is no further financial backing and we end up without a manager.

    The value of NUFC would drop. By how much I don’t know exactly, but a price of £350m would immediately become ludicrous.

    If then PCP still values us at their current valuation, Mr Ashley could face the prospect of a THIRD relegation under his stewardship, and the prospect of the price crashing into less than £100m!

    Hopefully, Mr Ashley would be brought to his senses and sell to PCP. PCP would contact Rafa, and we would have new owners and our old manager back in the fold. Perhaps this could all be done with sufficient time left to hit the January market, if not, Rafa will have to make sure that we maintain our PL status with our existing squad.

    Any thoughts?

  • hibbit

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:44 PM

    Comment #29

    canny lad
    got your homework done early tonight

  • canny lad

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:44 PM

    Comment #30

    Definition of information

    1 : the communication or reception of knowledge or intelligence

    2 a (1) : knowledge obtained from investigation, study, or instruction (2) : intelligence, news (3) : facts, data

  • ShireToon

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:45 PM

    Comment #31


    That’s just one of his monikers?

  • Novocastrian66

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:45 PM

    Comment #32

    toonluvva; I agree 100% Not that that means owt.

  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:46 PM

    Comment #33

    As bizarre as it sounds, he simply doesn’t seem too bothered if we go down, I’m not sure why he was so keen to come back up now either. Like the hiring of KK who he must have planned not to back he must have known when he persuaded Rafa to stay that he had no intention of seeing his promises through. What a thoroughly despicable character.

  • DubaiMicky

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:49 PM

    Comment #34

    Oh ye of little faith, there’s a few of us on here that will expect mega apologies from certain posters when what we said will happen and by whom. Happens.

    Yeah the dates are probably wrong, there could well be some bit of crap that got in the mechanism that our people didn’t know about or that happened at the last vinegar strokes, but hey, that’s the way it is.

    I’ll say it again, MbS is buying us/has bought us.

  • catchy in norway

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:52 PM

    Comment #35

    Does anyone really believe Rafa doesn’t know whats going on? or what his transfer budget is ?.

    Douglas Hall took me for a cruse in his Ferrari F40 many years ago, He paid 600k for it back in 91.

    the club are in this mess because of SJH, he cared more about a quick buck than his “beloved” NUFC

  • ShireToon

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:53 PM

    Comment #36


    Does that mean the deal is done…… maybe done?

    Your on the neggars sh1tlist now 😆

  • DubaiMicky

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:55 PM

    Comment #37

    What does amuse me is the likes of “canny lad” believes what is written in the press. Now THAT is funny.

  • ShireToon

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:56 PM

    Comment #38


    Are you implying he can read? 😮

  • DubaiMicky

    Jan 12, 2018 at 4:57 PM

    Comment #39

    An order is never an order until the money is paid. Same with a contract. Just cos it’s signed don’t mean anything.

  • ToonArmyMidlands

    Jan 12, 2018 at 5:01 PM

    Comment #40

    Dubai, I really do like to hear the positivity from ITKs like yourself. In particular, I have confidence in Sparky55’s assurance from late December that it is 100% guaranteed – he seems to have good contacts in the city although I’d love to know on what basis he can be so sure. I’ve been following all the ITK posts since this began and I also have confidence in your predictions Dubai. Is there anything else you can add to what you have already said that will help to reassure the readers that what you say is accurate? I’m not questioning your sources – just, like many, desperate for something to give me confidence this will all end well!

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