Pundits Worried About Newcastle Relegation After Takeover Failure


Rafa Benitez has to be worried now that the failed takeover and the club still up for sale will impact our players.

Mike Ashley has managed to create this vast uncertainty by allowing things to drag on for over four months with Amanda Staveley.

He said he wanted to sell the club quickly, but does Ashley do anything quickly?

Ashley must know this is having a negative impact on the club because of the uncertainty it has created, and in 2008 he did the exact same thing.

He tried to sell the club after Keegan left the club back in September 2008, when fans wanted him out.

Ian Wright – football pundit

But he then took it off the market in late December on the morning Rafa Benitez’ Liverpool hammered us 5-1 at home.

Oh yes – and we were relegated in May of the following year.

There’s a good chance the same thing will happen again, and it’s down to woeful ownership from Ashley.

He has never understood football and that the team on the field is the most important thing – not money in the bank.

Money in the bank doesn’t score any goals for the team.

Former Arsenal striker Ian Wright thinks that Newcastle will not be able to strengthen this month.

And with the growing uncertainty about the takeover, this is what he had to say last night on Sky Sports’ The Debate:

“We are just hearing about Newcastle with things breaking down with respects to the money and the buying,”

“I feel if they do not get that takeover and they can’t get to spend money – and it doesn’t look like they are – I am sorry to say I think Newcastle might go.”

Danny Higginbottom also agreed with Wright that Newcastle will now be relegated

“I am going to go along with Newcastle.” “I think with what has happened with the takeover and January spending and they will be relegated.”

There will be other pundits who will agree with that opinion.

When Rafa gives his press conference on Friday, he will say that his job is to win games and get the best out of the players he has available and he will again ask for support of him and the players from the fans.

We cannot let this thing fall apart – Newcastle still have a decent chance to survive this season.

If we do that, hopefully, Mike Ashley will still sell the club.

That’s the hope in any case – but it dimmed a little yesterday.

Comments welcome.


34 comments so far

  • Pitmatic

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:40 PM

    Comment #1

    That’s us doomed then.

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  • Jib

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:41 PM

    Comment #2

    Folks ire should be directed at PCP.
    We’ve just lost four months in getting
    a new owner for the club thanks to them.

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  • NUFC FOR SALE

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:41 PM

    Comment #3

    I hate Ashley as much as the next man but if pcp and staverley are for real… come out tell the world and pay him what he wants to f##k off.
    Otherwise im sorry but they are no different to Ashley in stringing the fans along

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  • catchy in norway

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:42 PM

    Comment #4

    rob 1971

    i’m not defending anyone, merely pointing out the fact that with all the hostility towards him, why would he do anything for the good of the club, he is quite possibly the most hated man in Newcastle.

    Rafa i have been told a thousand times in here that he is integral to this deal, in both putting people together and key to the deal going through.

    i have said it the past and many others have also thought maybe Rafa was tinkering with the side to make it look worse than what it is, in order to force a sale at a price, a short term loss for a long term gain.

    in this situation, he is not going to accept a penny less than he values the club, and we can do nothing to change his mind. Amanda might have good intentions and greta plans, but she is more to blame for this debaoghan Ashley

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  • Markaccus

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:42 PM

    Comment #5

    I agree with Ruddy, CF is the most important upgrade required, and i’d ad a decent scoring no.10. we are probably solid enough at the back if we can add goals

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  • Fluffy handcuffs for Amanda

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:43 PM

    Comment #6

    Ashley out

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  • RUNAWAY777

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #7

    Paul Lambert in the job 2 day and signing a player already we are f..ked lads

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  • Ron Knee

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #8

    A source close to Ashley told Sky Sports News: “It is only right to let the fans know that there is no deal on the table or even under discussion with Amanda Staveley and PCP.”

    “It is only right to let the fans know …” Who said Ashley & co. didn’t do irony?

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  • Rob1971

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #9

    Jib what about the previous times the club was up for sale and ashley wasted all that time? there is only one person to blame for this and its ashley, if we go down again will be let off scot free, it will be the 3rd time in his reign the man is clueless on how to run a football club

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  • Dont think so Jib any other parties would have have had full rights invoked

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  • Pitmatic

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #11

    Having spent the past few months checking in on here for info every ten minutes or so, the words “complete waste of time” definitely ring true!

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  • Rob1971

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:46 PM

    Comment #12

    Ruddy no way will ashley pay the wages required to get Sturridge and Batshuayi

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  • magicmac54

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:46 PM

    Comment #13

    I totally agree with the comments by Jib, and NUFC FOR SALE.

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  • Belfast

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:48 PM

    Comment #14

    I think if we don’t sign a striker we’ll probably go down to be honest. The relegation pool is quite big this season though. So you never know.

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  • Rob1971

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:50 PM

    Comment #15

    Certain fans saying PCP should just stump up the money ashley wanted, why would you pay £300 million for a team that is 3 points above the relegation spot? would Ashley have done it? I seriously doubt it he struggles to pay decent money in the transfer windows in his 10 year reign

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  • hibbit

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #16

    jib
    why do you think the other parties that completed the due diligence walk away???

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  • Rob1971

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #17

    Catchy that is rubbish, no way will a manager put a team out to get poor results which will make him look poor and potentially relegate the club, Ashley would not drop the price anyway so that is way off the mark

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  • c-dog

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:52 PM

    Comment #18

    Between us stoke Swansea and wba

    Ie the clubs with no ambition

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:53 PM

    Comment #19

    Can anyone tell me how a player is worth 150 million ie Courtino
    and a football club ie Newcastle United are worth £300 million
    approx twice the price of a player.

    To me the whole money thing is crazy.

    Whatever has/will happen hope fully we are out of limbo this January – RAFA gets the players in we need and keeps us up.

    And us the fans forget about Ashley and get behind the team and RAFA as they both need it!!!

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  • Rob1971

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #20

    Also Catchy it is not Amanda, she is just the figurehead for PCP it is not her money

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  • Ron Knee

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:55 PM

    Comment #21

    hibbit

    You didn’t know there were hundreds of potential buyers for NUFC?

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:55 PM

    Comment #22

    catchy you’re a loon and can’t help having an agenda on every single thing can you, you could liken your popularity on here to Ashley or trump.

    imagine if pardew or mclaren had actually had the ambition to want to improve nufc and not been afraid to call ash on it.

    you just know if pcp offer 300m ash will want 350m, they offer 350, he’ll want 400M etc etc.

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  • Rob1971

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #23

    NUFC FOR SALE, why pay over the odds for a club that is in danger of being relegated, would you pay £300 million if the value of the club could drop to about £100 million if we are relegated?

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  • hibbit

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:57 PM

    Comment #24

    no i missed that Ron !!!

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  • magscar

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:57 PM

    Comment #25

    repost – didn’t see Ed had snuck in a new one

    magscar

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #22
    You have to laugh at the amateur accountants on here who can value a club at a distance and even liken it to house or car sales and doing them up.

    It is of course an inexact science in the present ridiculous world of Sky, Amazon, Google etc. and quite simply is “worth” what Ashley is finally prepared to settle for and what PCP are willing to agree to pay. The perceived worth is totally fluid and as most can see could be affected by future events such as relegation and new TV/streaming deals. Just look at player valuations in last 12 months to see the increasing lack of real world bargaining in the obscene trading that goes on.

    Still think a deal will happen but when is not clear – like most very disappointed at how things have deteriorated at such a crucial stage but clinging to hope as is my usual way

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  • Black'n'White'n'BroonAllOver

    Jan 17, 2018 at 1:58 PM

    Comment #26

    The problem with the ‘just pay the extra £50m’ argument, is that it supposes the interested parties are as desperate to buy us as we are for them to buy.

    Why would anyone in their right minds pay fifty million fcuking pounds, to Mike fcuking Ashley, over what they value the club for?

    Unless they were desperate to buy AND filthy rich. Cant believe both are true.

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  • Rob1971

    Jan 17, 2018 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #27

    This collapse of the take over is good news for the rafa out brigade, if Ashley is still here in the summer Rafa won’t be so they will get there wish, managers in the ilk of Pardew, Mclaren will be back for Ashley to mould

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  • magscar

    Jan 17, 2018 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #28

    To recap – the various ITK’s ( all regular posters) had information from different sources, different countries and different deadlines so either they have been caught up in the biggest ever and elaborate hoax or their have been leaks of information for the leaker’s own purposes.

    I suspect the latter is nearer the mark and I recall hibbit saying that Ashley had underestimated PCP and that may have been the case but perhaps he has now taken their measure and if deadlines have passed and he has not got that hanging over him he can stick it out longer than was anticipated.

    Ironically I have found myself believing more of what the ITK’s have posted than what media have had to rely on for stories. They are rarely if ever close to transfers that happen so why should takeover and negotiations be any different?

    Relegation and the closing transfer window now seem to be the latest gambits in this brinkmanship battle and as usual we are just pawns in the game that the big players play hoping that we get some crumbs ;-(

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  • Jib

    Jan 17, 2018 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #29

    It must be galling for the ITK’s
    (those that were genuine and
    not the bandwagon jumpers)
    to know that any snippets they
    were fed were to further PCP’s
    agenda

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  • AncientC

    Jan 17, 2018 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #30

    I have not caught up on the blog yet, emotions running high I expect, and rightfully so. A lot of long suffering fans having the wind knocked out of them.

    If the sale does not go through, maybe Ashley will have an epiphany and start to grow the club. He could sell the club easily after a few years of sound investment.

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  • Toonces

    Jan 17, 2018 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #31

    I don’t understand why Rafa in and of himself is such a key to the deal. If a new owner was to come in, and say Rafa wasn’t here, they could just hire him from whatever job he might be at if they wanted him so badly. In fact Rafa being here serves more to bolster an increased value for NUFC (and Ashley) to have him currently under contract during a takeover. He is an asset to the club.

    For what it’s worth, I’m with Lochinvar and his take – we don’t know anything official. Everything is rumour and innuendo and backchannel reporting. Even the comments today from this Jim White being told an update by a “spokesperson” for PCP. Well what was that spokesperson’s name? Where is the direct quote from this official person? An official spokesperson for PCP wouldn’t need to hide behind an anonymous quote.

    Indeed, it is the hope that kills, but let’s not take our frustrations out on the regular, longtime posters who in good faith shared some rumour and gossip about the takeover. If they in fact were lead down the garden path by some friend, shame on that friend. If they in fact made it up to seek attention, shame on them. But if they just shared something they thought to be true, in the hope of brightening the blog, shame on those of us for treating them like they lied to their mother. Get a grip.

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  • GPPaweyyekna

    Jan 17, 2018 at 2:39 PM

    Comment #32

    For me that meeting at the Indians ruined the potential deal. Especially that little scroat Desmond who was with her. If I was her client I would not think that much of her picture having a roley outside clutching a bottle of Bella under her arm. I know in Saudi, a foreign investor has to fronted by a national (or did a few years back) so is this the case in this country? My point is, could the investor deal direct?

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  • nufc 11

    Jan 17, 2018 at 4:46 PM

    Comment #33

    Anyone would think after looking at the interview Mike Ashley gave in May he was desperate to get out of Toon. 1 serious bidder came forward 1 I repeat. Ashley is acting like a man inundated with offers for the club. Surley Ashley would have had this fella Barnes get a proper valuation done on the club by forensic accountants. What I can figure out is how can PCP valuation of €250 be so far away from what Ashley thinks its worth? Its black and white its black and white when all the figures are examined a true value has to be evident. I mean the training ground needs to be rebuilt and the team needs 150 million spend on it Ashley wont foot the bill for that. I would take into account that no one else came forward and these new buyers could actually take the club to a new level. Isn’t Mike Ashley looking for funds to build luxury apartments in London 900 million development? You’d think he’d be eager to offload NUFC not so it seems.

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  • MassiveG

    Jan 17, 2018 at 6:57 PM

    Comment #34

    Here’s an idea: as we can’t get much closer to relegation and won’t sign anybody, how about we keep Saivet and Mitrovic and play them and see how they do?
    Don’t get it.
    Thauvin. Cabella. Discarded. Chelsea discard De Bruyne. Man U discard Pogba and Pique.

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