Rafa Praises Fans – But Nothing Imminent On Transfer Front


Rafa Benitez was straight forward in his press conference today and told the press that Mike Ashley told him two to three weeks ago that PCP Partners would not be buying Newcastle United.

It also seems at that time he told Rafa he would work with him to get players into the club – either on loan or on a permanent basis so it appears there will be some money to spend.

It’s imperative if Mike Ashley is going to be successful and sell the club that we remain in the Premier League.

From what Rafa has said today it seems – wait for it – Mike Ashley is trying to help him bring in the targets he wants.

When things even looked exciting back in May – another false alarm 

Maybe Mike Ashley will now get involved as he did five years ago when he helped bring five French players in and that helped save us from relegation.

Not getting relegated this season could be worth as much as £150M to Mike Ashley in the sale price of Newcastle United – so he should be helping Rafa.

This is some of what Rafa has said today and he has praised the Newcastle fans once again:

“Our fans don’t need a message from me because they have been fantastic all season.”

“The main thing is to stick together so we have more chances to stay in the Premier League.”

“The fans are clever enough to understand the main thing is to support the team.”

“We are in the situation – nothing coming in or going out.”

“There are a lot of names. In two hours there will be another. So we don’t mention names.”

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109 comments so far

  • lochinvar

    Jan 19, 2018 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #1

    Solution.
    Put the club up for auction with Sotherbys.
    World first ?
    Attract global interest and investors.
    Massive publicity for Newcastle and reluctantly Sports Direct.
    Reserve price of £275million.
    Bidding war with Amanda securing club for £339 million on behalf of PCP investors.
    Dancing on the streets reminiscence of VE Day.

    “And how would you like to pay Ms. Staveley ? ”
    “Amex will do nicely ”
    “Oh It’s cash. even better. ”
    Thank you and oh ” have a nice day”

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  • posada

    Jan 19, 2018 at 2:25 PM

    Comment #2

    Can’t have an auction with just one bidder.

    It’s been up for sale for ten years and the whole world knows it. Best offer so far 250M.

    A bad offer is better than a nice look.

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  • Tsunki

    Jan 19, 2018 at 2:32 PM

    Comment #3

    I always thought the club would go for £260-280m but I completely disregarded the factor of my own post back in October last year – the inevitability of online services muscling in on the TV bid.

    This is where valuing the club on strictly asset based finance and status quo league payment stages falls way short of what Ashley will make of the perceived value of NUFC.

    So forget what you’ve got in your head about matchday, corporate, catering, merchandising, advertising, property…. There is a magic figure loaded on top of that which is what Ashley is thinking of. This comes from the high possibility that giants like Amazon and Google will enter the fray with their own bespoke methods of serving the Premier league to fans and admirers around the globe in much more effective and diverse ways than current satellite feeding does. Disney have assured Sky have stayed in the game by acquiring them to add to their own online portfolio. Despite what some say about the pl being a fading star, it is not. It is a proven and growing brand and has the potential to be much more.

    The future is many leagues and maybe super leagues, tailor made cup competitions worth millions in prize money, on-demand online feeds of games anywhere and everywhere, “season tickets” and “cup runs” for your club. These mega companies with the finances of developed nations will see it done.

    This is probably the load that Ashley has put on top of his bare valuation. And who knows what that is – PCP evidently dont. Anyone wanting to buy a club in the top tier better hurry. And pay up.

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  • Our Toon

    Jan 19, 2018 at 2:32 PM

    Comment #4

    Dig n dig

    Before the takeover talk started we were 5th or 6th, since takeover talk we dropped like a fly. Both sides are to blame but of Staveley is really serious offer 300m upfront and get it sorted.

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Jan 19, 2018 at 2:34 PM

    Comment #5

    So can see a flurry of panic buys next week then !?

    A lot of players haven’t moved at the moment so there is still realistic targets available if we are willing to actually pay decent wages !

    Lots of players will be wanting to move to get game time , clubs keen to move players off the wage bill and agents dying to get a top up !

    I can see us getting a no 10 , striker and a keeper but it may not be the first choices but still could make a difference

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  • Our Toon

    Jan 19, 2018 at 2:35 PM

    Comment #6

    Tsunki

    Agreed and it’s an area I mentioned as well. Championship has gone to stream games, season tickets bought online. Now can you imagine clubs selling season tickets for streaming games and selling them worldwide. It’ll dwarf what’s paid at present at clubs could easily come out with 300m

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  • lesh

    Jan 19, 2018 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #7

    Our Toon

    If PCP were to increase its bid to £300m with no strings now, there is a interim period while deal is finalised. In that period of limbo, where’s the confidence that Ashley’d give Rafa enough to seriously try to avoid relegation? Given Ashley’s history, there’s none!

    And offering him £300m would probably tempt him to ask for more.

    Yes, business is business but there are those in the business community who do have scruples and behave ethically but does Ashley sit in that tent? Maybe that’s a question the Ashley camp could answer?

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Jan 19, 2018 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #8

    Selling Digital season tickets would be immense but its another reason why we need rid of Ashley we are not exactly getting new fans all the time because he is not competing and taking the excitement out of everything!

    I get down to St James’s at least once a season but in general you can get streams of the 3 o clock games but digital season ticket at say 50 or 60 quid a month to watch the Toon rather than paying a Sky Subscription!

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  • Jib

    Jan 19, 2018 at 2:44 PM

    Comment #9

    Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    You are right
    Allardyce has said in his presser that his
    current squad is 33 so he has to unload
    8 in the next 2 weeks

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  • ToonArmyMidlands

    Jan 19, 2018 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #10

    Is anyone able to copy/paste George Caulkin’s comment piece on Amanda Stavely – sounds like a good read judging by the twitter comments, however I’ve read my two free articles this week…

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/is-amanda-staveley-a-time-waster-i-dont-know-but-mike-ashley-is-wpqzwj8xk

    Thanks!

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  • Our Toon

    Jan 19, 2018 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #11

    Lesh

    They should have bid 300m with no strings attached in December. Essentially it was there investment they wanted to protect. I honestly don’t think Ashley would have turned that down. Maybe even chuck in 25m if we stay up as additional but it would have been real intent to buy the club rather than the circus that has followed since.

    If rafa is close to Amanda and it’s reported he is then she will have know at around the same time as rafa that they weren’t going to accept the latest bid. Why not meet in the middle? He wants 350, we wanna pay 250…..take 300m and that way no one loses out!!

    Staveley isn’t as clean cut coming out of this whole debacle, she has also pissed about and it’s nothing knew from ashley

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  • posada

    Jan 19, 2018 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #12

    On line season tickets.
    Now that might change things.
    I have Sky and get all their Prem games.
    If it’s Stoke Vs Bournmouth I take just a passing interest.
    Not my club you see. Would think nothing of walking out on it to get petrol or take the dog round the block.
    Arsenal Vs Man U. Might take more interest, but not really.
    It’s on, but It’s now on out of habit. Like watching Cora. Less interested when they are only interested in the top six and my club that can’t compete just gets a passing mention.

    Would a half season ticket for just away games be available to those who actually go to home games. Otherwise they would be paying double.
    Would this take it back to the old days when the size and clout of your club was driven by the size of your gates.

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  • posada

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:03 PM

    Comment #13

    Also, re on line season tickets.
    The ethos of KK and the entertainers might make a come back.
    To be honest compared to those days football is poor as a entertainment.
    They might just have to serve up something people really want to watch.

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:03 PM

    Comment #14

    @Jib

    Yeah he also said it will depend on interest into what ones he lets go !

    Maybe we will end up with Mccarthy finally haha

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  • Jib

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #15

    ToonArmyMidlands
    If you scroll back to about 7 am today
    It’s there about 3 times

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  • THE-REAL-TRUE-GEORDIE

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #16

    25/1 newcastle to beat city if mike ashleys put 2 milllion down he could make the extra 50 million he needs..

    hmmmm…

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  • Harley

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:05 PM

    Comment #17

    Jimbothemag

    Nice post that, cheers for sharing that info.

    1
  • Tsunki

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:09 PM

    Comment #18

    What would a season ticket to away games be worth to you? Or all games to those who live nowhere near Newcastle? I’m sure my frustration at only bring limited to certain games by sky and by jostling with the pl is echoed by millions. It will be made to change because these online behemoths know exactly how it’s done. Why do you think they are currently putting every effort into shutting down illegal streams? Getting their house in order?

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  • catchy in norway

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:15 PM

    Comment #19

    ARE WE GOING TO GET OUT OF OUR HALF TOMORROW ?

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  • posada

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #20

    Tsunki
    I pay about 50 quid a month for my Sky package. Half the time it’s games I am not interested in or Neville and his mate talking balls. If it’s an NUFC home game it’s a waste as I am at the match.
    50 x 12 = £600 a year.
    If I could not get to home games I’d pay that for a 19 game NUFC on line season ticket.
    I’d dump Carraghar, Neville and Stoke Vs WBA in a heart beat.

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  • ToonArmyMidlands

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #21

    Thanks Jib, the one I’m after is different, it’s a comment piece expanding on his thoughts re Amanda.Sounds like a good read.

    The one I’m after is this –> https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/is-amanda-staveley-a-time-waster-i-dont-know-but-mike-ashley-is-wpqzwj8xk

    The one from this morning is this –> https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/amanda-staveley-i-want-to-buy-newcastle-its-hurtful-and-absurd-to-call-us-time-wasters-2c05m05fh (please don’t anyone repost this one again!)

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  • Reilly

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #22

    12 quid a month get every prem game and dont have to listern to that weasel looking fka neville.

    2
  • SPRINGY

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:19 PM

    Comment #23

    Catchy
    Not likely! Lol

    2
  • NezzaNUFC

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:22 PM

    Comment #24

    Rafa need to fully focus on 2 strikers atm, whether on loan are not we need goal scorers

    2
  • magscar

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:23 PM

    Comment #25

    Now that Blog Sensei Tsunki has offered his sensible ( but not original) view on asking price (moving away from his previous analogies) perhaps his followers will smell the coffee ( he has 3 hearts already!) and move away from the “He has made a profit now get out at £250M” ill thought through line?

    Debate might move on beyond is it worth more than he paid plus a little bit

    🙂

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:30 PM

    Comment #26

    If we can assume he would take 300M no clauses with a very serious threat of relegation hanging over our heads and possible fines from HMRC, then it’s safe to assume he will more than likely hike that up to 400M if we’re safe in May. He’s obviously prepared to sink us now, it’s an inevitability once Rafa leaves. He’s probably done the maths and worked out with increasing revenues he can quite easily afford to destroy us.

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  • Jimbothemag

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:32 PM

    Comment #27

    Tsunki – Good point about potential future earnings as the book value will only be a starting point. Although how much value can be given to it is all theoretical as we may or may not be in the Premier League. That’s obviously why it’s so difficult for both sides to agree.

    Harley – No problem your welcome.

    Also just to make a point although I haven’t done the maths looking at Southampton’s figures their book value would probably be very similar to ours as their squad value etc. is similar in their books. All other factors such as history, marketability are all very intangible and hard to value.

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  • magscar

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:33 PM

    Comment #28

    Posada

    I am similar to you in missing games when I am travelling to and from match and not caring about most anyway and gave up Sky years ago because of it. However Talktalk offered me a really ridiculous price for Sky Sports 18 months last August and I went for that after about 20 years. Would be interested in a viewing season ticket as I suspect mny others would be.

    Not expecting much would change in the level of punditry however – it doesn’t matter whether or not it is BBC Bein BT sport Sky or American feeds most of them are numpties who are mainly aware of top 4 with only insight into likes of us gleaned from even poorer media coverage. Suppose they could look for a particular local or connected commentator for each season ticket – we might get Shearer ?! Anyone look forward to his insights?

    Could always turn down sound and watch as if at game 🙂

    2
  • geordietom

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #29

    looks like staveley is moving on to buy leeds now

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  • fairscup

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:36 PM

    Comment #30

    Reilly
    Or any of the other pr1cks.

    1
  • dig-n-dig22

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:36 PM

    Comment #31

    Couldn’t help noticing the 3 wise Monkeys in the photo.

    Hear no transfers See no transfers Speak no transfers.

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  • magscar

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #32

    Jail

    As Rafa has now said he has been aware deal isn’t going ahead any thoughts as to why he is still here and/or not spitting his dummy out. Beyond the obvious love he has for of course.

    1
  • Jib

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:38 PM

    Comment #33

    “Rafa has known for 3 weeks that the takeover wasn’t happening”
    types Lee Ryder on his twatter page
    you imagine with a trembling bottom lip
    because
    He has been to 3 Benitez pressers in that time
    Ha ha ha
    worra berk
    love it I love it
    ;-D

    1
  • Jail for Ashley

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #34

    magscar,
    Because he still has time left on his contract. Do you think he will stay beyond that.

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  • Jib

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #35

    😀
    even

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  • magscar

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:43 PM

    Comment #36

    GeordieTom

    Where did you here that- their long suffering fanbase would be eating out of her Harrogate (?) hand 🙂

    Certainly plausible but club recently changed hands, needs new ground or massive overhaul and has been in decline for 15 years or more but still retains strong support and is at centre of “Northern Powerbase”.

    More NDA costs but is it a ploy to scare Ashley?

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  • GPPaweyyekna

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:43 PM

    Comment #37

    Jail,

    I think you are correct. Rafa’s CV means a lot to him. To walk out is just as bad as being sacked.

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  • magscar

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #38

    Jail

    Depends?

    0
  • LGFUAD21

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #39

    God this whole thing is messy.

    I think AS gave that times interview to up the heat of MA

    His hand has been shown. He received a good offer and claimed interest elsewhere. Bluff called from both sides.

    The 1st offer still guaranteed £300m in event of relegation. That was the one MA should’ve snapped hands off with.

    Both seem bullish. Can’t see any agreement being made now in the summer once this dust has settled. It’ll take a phenomenally rich and generous buyer to bow to Ashley.

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  • Ron Knee

    Jan 19, 2018 at 3:46 PM

    Comment #40

    George Caulkin thinks PCP would buy us even if we were relegated – at a reduced price, of course.

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