Portuguese outlet, the Record, are reporting today that former Newcastle United number one striker target Bas Dost is ready to leave Sporting Lisbon this summer.
Newcastle were interested in signing Doss last summer, but his transfer price was way out of reach of a hard-up Newcastle back then.
Dost has scored 30 goals in 40 outings for Sporting Lisbon this season, and that compares with his 36 goals in 41 outings in the previous season.
The news is that his agent is ready to hold talks with Sporting at the end of the season, with the 28-year-old keen to have a new challenge.
Well, he would have one at Newcastle United in the Premier League.
His contract still has two years to run so we don’t know how much Sporting Lisbon would want for him this summer, but probably too much for Newcastle.
Last summer a transfer fee of close to £40M for the striker was mentioned, but Newcastle will not be able to pay out that much for one player – not this summer anyway.
We don’t think Bas Dost will arrive at Newcastle this summer only because his fee will be too high.
What do you think about this?
Dost has 15 caps for the Netherlands with one goal.
Comments welcome.
113 comments so far
DubaiMicky
Apr 10, 2018 at 11:02 AM
Comment #1Not a cat in hells chance of us getting him at £40m plus his huge wages, apart from the transfer fees, would he not upset the team balance?
22-24 year old, for £15m, now that would be a great buy – anyone know one?
Oldgit1
Apr 10, 2018 at 11:09 AM
Comment #2The worrying fact for me is that Rafa has not agreed to extend his contract, although in my mind he is playing a blinder by not doing so. This enforces his hand with regards to Ashley.
Rafa could have expected a big raise by extending his contract but he has decided to let the fat git sweat.
Do I think he will sell up, No, there are plenty of reasons for him to stay, the players increase in value being a major one and could easily make 100m on the selling of three players plus the sky money. That would give him over 200m.
The value of the club has gone up so IF he does decide to sell up you would expect the price to be higher than last year. 350m is reasonable but only if he gets Rafa to sign a new contract.
Oldgit1
Apr 10, 2018 at 11:22 AM
Comment #3@ DubaiMicky how about Rondom I think that’s how you spell it, from West Brom. He has a buyout clause of 16m when the club gets relegated.
AMEOBI
Apr 10, 2018 at 11:35 AM
Comment #4Super Shearer.
Robben and ribery are out of contracts in the summer so they’re gunna be short on wingers. They’ve got muller, coman, Alaba to fill that position. So it would make sense them looking at Kenedy.
Munster Mag
Apr 10, 2018 at 11:38 AM
Comment #5Jail you may need a lesson in finance.
Jib
Apr 10, 2018 at 11:39 AM
Comment #6Let’s have a look at Slimani first
Too many grass is greener folk on here
not only with regard to strikers
but owners as well.
Personally I’d much rather we stayed with a proprietor
who has grown changed and developed
over the years than start all over with a bunch
of unknowns
Jib
Apr 10, 2018 at 11:44 AM
Comment #7Munster
Giving Jail a lesson in anything would be a
waste of time.
Allegedly he has difficulty chewing gum
and walking at the same time.
😀
Slank
Apr 10, 2018 at 11:46 AM
Comment #8I watched Bas Dost when he played against England and wasn’t impressed.
Was that due to him or the England defence ?
His scoring record in Portugal is impressive.
Was that due to him or more due to a poor league ?
His valuation looks exceptionally high. The concern is that we have had European players before who have come with a high reputation of scoring goals only to flounder in the Premiership.
bettyswallocks
Apr 10, 2018 at 11:47 AM
Comment #9Jib……….. That looks ominously like a massive u – turn. Only a few weeks ago you clearly stated that you would be delighted if Ashley left.
lochinvar
Apr 10, 2018 at 11:51 AM
Comment #10Talk of Torres isn’t new as he was touted as being our record signing back in the last transfer window.
He was on record as saying he wanted one final season in the Premiership so no more “seasons in the sun” more a case of “ganning along the Scotswood road”.
He didn’t arrive to we borrowed Slim Jim from Leicester instead.
Who will be out number 9 next season is an interesting debate and the list will be endless before long that’s for sure…in fact Ed’s already added to it this morning, more to come I suspect
Gayle
Joselu
Mitro
Slimani
Torres
Mitro
Das Bost
Jorgensson
Plea
Fernandez (who wants away from the Spammers)
Jib
Apr 10, 2018 at 11:53 AM
Comment #11Sweaty
I ‘d be delighted if he was replaced by
someone better.
I’m not convinced an ex restaurant owner
from Cambridgeshire with an Iranian partner
is that person.
Munster Mag
Apr 10, 2018 at 11:53 AM
Comment #12Oldgit I had mentioned Rondon the other day, prompted by another poster who had done so earlier. He can certainly shift it and has physical presence too. As regards ownership we can probably expect an article from Matthew syed or someone saying we shouldn’t be denigrating the fat one. Sadly with a club in good nick financially and full houses, it’s easy to point at clubs who have had madhouse owners and make a contrast. Ashley will want more money now because we stayed up and staveley may regret not giving him 300 with no strings attached. Hopefully he will take the 300 but my guess is more. It’s a no win at the moment for the fans. We get a class coach who may not need a huge budget but he increases the value of the club by dragging us up the league! And did someone mention fat Sam and Ashley or is that just nightmare gossip?
Nicky the ball tosser
Apr 10, 2018 at 11:59 AM
Comment #13I also cling to the hope that Ashley has been won over by Rafa and come round as an owner. Rafa runs things right, and Ashley likes a tight ship, but has 3 billion quid behind him if he did decide to help out a bit more Clearly the pair of them have the capacity to take the club forward, and they are in place, even entrenched. It seems logical that they’ll negotiate a workable arrangement, but of course there’s hope, and then there’s realization, so you’d be a mug to back it. But it is still very much on the cards.
Slank
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:01 PM
Comment #14Jib @ 6
I’m inclined to agree with you on the ownership.
Whilst Ashley isn’t all that good he is however a known person who has a solid and successful track record of managing organisations whereas PCP have no record of managing organisations, let alone a sports club, whose only known person is that women who has a very dubious and controversial record in business and who hopes to make a financial killing from selling our club onto as yet unnamed sponsors.
The Chinese proverb about wishing comes to mind.
Nicky the ball tosser
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:02 PM
Comment #15Stavely has less money behind her than Ashley, and she has made it clear her interest is financial, so yeah, a bit of a worry. You just want a solid owner, and a top manager, and the rest should follow.
9
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:04 PM
Comment #16Nicky, our owner isn’t going to change his ways. End of.
Jib
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:08 PM
Comment #17Wow he’s said
“end of ”
He MUST have won the argument
😛
RobLeenio
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:10 PM
Comment #189 you make some very reasonable points on the last post re Ashley and the stability we have found in terms of league position and finances.
However….
Up until 2 weeks ago we were sweating on relegation. If Rafa had been able to buy the players he wanted last summer or in January we would likely have been far better placed. Stability therefore has been achieved in spite of Ashley not because of him.
Rafa is responsible for our league position. Ashley appointed him but only after Rafa approached the club. At worst this was Ashley being lucky, at best it’s reactionary rather than proactive. Credit to Ashley for retaining Rafa post relegation but it seemed he made assurances in order to do so which he later refused to fulfill. Is that good management?
Ashley has more by luck than judgement finally stabilised us but he was responsible for our instability in the first place. We now have an opportunity to consolidate but to do that we need to tie Rafa down to a long term contract and invest sensibly. Therefore Ashley needs to either do that himself or step aside so someone else can get on with it.
Nicky the ball tosser
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:12 PM
Comment #19Well, every time I post something that suggests Rafa can turn Ashley round, I get people telling me he can’t. They seem pretty sure, which makes me realize all the more that of course he can, not will necessarily, but almost certainly can. It’s hard to imagine Rafa doesn’t think he can influence the behaviour of the owner.
magscar
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:14 PM
Comment #20Not for the first(or last!?) time Ashley has arrived at another crossroads but which way will he go.
When club was officailly classed as up for salelast Autumn I recall one of his mouth piece declaring he wanted sale by end of year or no sale. The info re buying land by December seemed to factor into that. If it wasn’t connected to that particular scenario what exactly was the point of the self imposed deadline? Are the reasons still relevant to him? Ashley is always shuffling his pack so I believe we are in a fluid state where a sale could happen or may not.
The path to meaningful discussions arguably have been clarified by the settling of the TV money for next few years and the relegation worry receded. Ashely can look at any offer ( in short term) against what he can make over next season or 2 ( longer term) BUT the latter has surely and inescapebly to even him tp be properly assessed against the realty of simply having to retain Rafa and what the cost of that would be.
Over the years I have argued that Ashley doesn’t factor us into his plans – if we like it (Rafa) all well and good if we don’t – tough. What I mean is if we enter his thoughts at all it is purely from a business aspect not an altruistic one.
Some argue we have been here before but have we been at this significant point before?
The club is unargably in the best financial position of his tenure ( not looking to start a rowas to how we got there it’s simply a fact) but it can stay and grow or implode depending on one factor – Rafa staying but on an extension. No extension perhaps moves on a decision a year but I think it will be a matter brought to a head by May at latest.
So stick or twist for Ashley with more than ever at stake for him and us.
To stay on without Rafa on board is just inconceivable to me as it doesn’t make any business sense. Doing it is “shooting himself in the foot” and “cutting his nose off to spite his face” – not a pretty sight you will agree 😉
9 made some interesting points earlier which many just can’t fathom but if you can ignore the “Ashley hates us, never does anything for us” sort of perspective it is easier to consider that there is a way forward with or without him which might just work. No doubt the former is the more palatable but we may have to settle for the latter.
If we do end up doing so AND Rafa stays and agrees an extension then I would accept that as not just a holding position ( at least for us but possibly for Ashley) but one that would enable us to move forward as a club. Yes slower than we all would like but at least now building on sound and sustainable foundations in club generally and on the field.
If Rafa plays poker like he sets teams up I trust him to “play” Ashley for the big pot to his and our benefit.
Wayayman
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:14 PM
Comment #21Can’t believe what I’m reading from some people on here re Ashely. 9, Slank and Jib in particular (she’s from Yorkshire btw).
Slank, Ashley has a solid and successful record of managing organisations? Financially successful perhaps, but morally, ethically? Owning a football club has nothing in common with running a business the way Ashley runs SD. He’s proved it by running us the same way for the last 10 years. Cut costs, trim the staff, siphon off assets, treat employees questionably, gamble with the future of the business. The only difference between NUFC and SD is that Rafa has made the very best out of a near impossible situation. If Rafa was in the business world he’d be in massive demand for having a proven track record of turning failing businesses around with minimum outlay for massive returns. He’d be head-hunted by the top companies around the world which is a big worry when you consider how fickle football is.
tommotoon
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:15 PM
Comment #22I think since the plight of Sunderland there seems to be more support creeping in on forums for Ashley a lot of people thinking be careful what you wish for..Personally i think he will sell up but only on his terms
magscar
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:16 PM
Comment #23Apologies for typos – didn’t read back as in hurry as there are always buses about
🙂
bettyswallocks
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:17 PM
Comment #24Jib………. I don’t think we’re gonna be inundated with a choice of buyers. I think Ashley has definitely had his day and needs to step aside as he has made it blatantly obvious that he has no sporting ambitions for the club, neither has he any intentions of investing any of his own money into the squad.
Wayayman
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:19 PM
Comment #25Honestly, some of you would rather stick with the arsewipe who has stripped assets from the club quite brazenly, repeatedly said he wants shot of us, who has gifted us with such an incredible amount of vitriolic management appointments and has relegated us TWICE in his tenure? You lot are either on the wind-up, too young to remember Kinnear, McCardew and the way he treated KK and Hughton, or just mental.
RobLeenio
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:19 PM
Comment #26Nicky I agree Rafa has the perfect opportunity to influence Ashley with the upcoming contract talks as I’ve stated before. It will require written assurances re control of budget, control of transfers, control of coaching appointments etc. In other words it will require a complete cave in from Ashley. Yes it’s possible and seems logical to us but sadly we aint Ashley. The two outcomes here are Rafa gets what he wants and stays or Ashley digs his heels in and Rafa walks either this Summer of next. God I hope it’s the former
Slank
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:19 PM
Comment #27Nicky,
We have a solid manager. No quibbles there.
But we also need a solid owner prepared to support his manager.
If that is Ashley, that is fine. If it’s ANO that’s fine so long as the club is not used as an object to be traded between unknown persons or offshore entities.
Nicky the ball tosser
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:24 PM
Comment #28Ashley isn’t going to revert back to the way he’s run us in the past either. That’d be nuts. It relegated us twice. He’ll do it differently to some degree. The question really is to what degree. What degree of concessions can Rafa get for the footballing side.
RobLeenio
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:27 PM
Comment #29Crossroads is right. One direction leads to continued progression, hope for the future and possible silverware some time down the road. The other leads to fan protest, player sales, a toxic environment around SJP and the potential implosion of the club. Dramatic? Yes, but probably realistic.
Slank
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:27 PM
Comment #30Wayayman,
Do you think the next owner will not be ‘morally, ethically’ ?
People who get immensely rich tend to straddle the morally ethical line.
Ashley is but a new owner from a long list of Newcastle United owners who have straddled that morally ethical line. Things are unlikely to change.
9
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:29 PM
Comment #31As everyone agrees, if Rafa goes the whole kaboodle ends up in the smelly stuff. Do we not think Mr Ashley has spotted this?
Rob, you tell us Rafa approached Ashley and not the other way around. Lucky us, whichever way it went. Long may it continue – with or without Ashley. It’s very difficult to see what sort of success we could get as a manager if we lose Rafa, and there has to be a very large possibility this will happen in the summer. How about Dyche? Wagner? Any ideas?
bettyswallocks
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:30 PM
Comment #32Ashley is a capricious, impulsive individual and appeared to have lost interest in the club and was ready to sell. The problem is with someone so fickle , he could have had a change of mind and decided to join the Rafalution.
OneAlanShearer
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:34 PM
Comment #33Things could get worse under a new owner but I don’t believe they will ever get better under Ashley. I also believe rafa will leave if Ashley doesn’t. So it’s a brainer for me.
RobLeenio
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:35 PM
Comment #34Betty, if he decides to join the Rafalution then great, no problem with that from me, but I’ll want to see evidence in terms of investment this Summer before I but it.
9, if the worst came to the worst I’d take Dyche or Wagner. Thing is, would they take us given they’ll have seen how Rafa has been treated?
OneAlanShearer
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:35 PM
Comment #35Betty even if Ashley was to want to stay I can’t see him backing rafa without under mining him….again and again and again
Slank
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:38 PM
Comment #369
I think the key is Rafa.
He has done a tremendous job under very difficult circumstances. He probably more than anyone else has increased the value of the club but conversely his departure will reverse that.
In my view, ant prospective owner will have to secure his services before an offer for the club is made. If the club is bought for a figure well below the amount Ashley wants then, to me, that signals that an agreement with Rafa has not been achieved and he walks.
Lindisfarne
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:38 PM
Comment #37How much does the club recieve for finishing 10th?
Presumably Ashley can not simply take that money for himself and adding it to the price of the club is the quickest way of profiting.
A figure of approx. £280 has been mentioned as directly relating to the amount Ashley has supposedly invested in the club, adding another £50-80M does not seem unreasonable. The question is does Staveley actually have the money?
Optimistic Panda
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:41 PM
Comment #38Some of the statements made today are epic!
Keep it up, 8m laughing my tits off
Jail for Ashley
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:43 PM
Comment #39At the end of the day it all boils down to Rafa signing a new deal, I just can’t be bothered with a continual footin media circus every transfer window with Ashley pi$$in about with transfers.
Jib
Apr 10, 2018 at 12:43 PM
Comment #40Wayayman
Staveley’s restaurant was in Cambridgeshire btw