If Newcastle Are To Be Sold This Summer – Expect New Offers Soon


Newcastle have finally reached the promised land and 41 points which should see us safe in the Premier League.

With 3rd bottom Southampton still 13 points behind us and only 15 points to play for, the next game they lose means they will not be able to catch us.

Alternatively, another win by Newcastle will also accomplish that in the five games we have left to play.

We will soon be mathematically certain to stay up.

So if Amanda Staveley is really serious about buying Newcastle, there’s no reason why she wouldn’t be putting in another bid very soon.

Mike Ashley – hopefully, we will get ambitious buyers coming in

And for those phantom other buyers who we keep hearing about – we should also be hearing from them soon – if they truly exist.

Would-be buyers should now be moving quickly for at least two good reasons; the first is to beat the others to an agreement with Mike Ashley.

But the other reason is that if there is no sale this summer Rafa may think twice about staying at Newcastle and will likely not be willing sign a new deal with Ashley still in charge.

That’s unless Mike Ashley will support Rafa – but the owner has already said that (he can have every last penny) and he hasn’t supported him much at all this season financially.

Rafa doesn’t want to waste his energy trying to persuade Mike Ashley to do the right thing; it takes too much effort, and another club would be only too willing to support our world-class manager with his high ambitions.

In fact with Newcastle seeming to improve in every game as the season progresses a typical Mike Ashley is to say we don’t need any new players since the squad has already improved substantially this seaosn.

So if Newcastle United are really to be sold to summer – and there are real buyers out there interested in the club for say £350M – they should make a move and soon.

Otherwise, it will not happen, and the question will be whether Rafa Benitez is willing to try to work with Mike Ashley after the owner hasn’t exactly kept his word this season.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.


73 comments so far

  • DubaiMicky

    Apr 16, 2018 at 2:25 PM

    Comment #1

    Repost, blame the bus:-

    @Oldgit #26, I was married to a Baggies fan, lived in Staffordshire, her, her father, uncle, the whole family were baggies fans, I was the taxi driver.

    However the fans are very similar to Geordies, the Black Country is named because of the furnaces and metal working industries (no shipbuilding, but plenty of engine works etc.), there is a lot of camaraderie between the two sets of fans.

    Just don’t ever say they’re from Birmingham.

    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

    Thinking as a business owner, I can understand Ashley’s reluctance to spend money they don’t have (I hate debt, my small co now works on a zero debt model, things were different a few years back and we had to borrow from banks, but they rip you off the world over, so from 2015 everything loan wise stopped, and I’m better off without them), having said that I’ve not had to refurbish or replace buildings etc, all i have to pay is rent, bills and wages basically. Thing is though, if Ashley wants to get the best possible return when he does sell he needs to invest/not take money out/pay for advertising etc.

    I think (and hope) that Rafa has painted a picture of a 1,5 and 10 year plan for Ashley, and Ashley can leave in 5 years time with a Billion pound pay off, with a £200m total investment (£40m a year over 5 years).

    Now that, as a businessman, would interest him.

    Let’s see what happens.

    Oh, fyi, I had a chat with my mate at PCP here last night, he said there is no bid on the horizon (and he was pissed, so in vino veritas) – I’m certainly NOT itk.

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  • jayphoto

    Apr 16, 2018 at 2:36 PM

    Comment #2

    Ashley won’t sell.. Could see him giving Benitez 50m a season plus player sales though (its about half the amount the club generates in TV money)
    Whether thats enough for rafa is to be seen, added into developing younger players etc and based on the scouting hes done, 40-50m plus player sales (guessing 15m for mitro, though his price could rocket based on WC)..60-70m, keeping lascelles, lejeune etc should see us able to a more comfortable season, 70m is what McClaren got to spend in Ashleys 1 real season of tv gold money so its not unfeasible Benitez could get similar now we are staying up with a season of TV cash behind us

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  • Munster Mag

    Apr 16, 2018 at 2:36 PM

    Comment #3

    Mickey I’m not optimistic re a new bid. I guess we will know by a couple of weeks time. That said if Ashley can give Charney a fair budget then I can live with that. Problem is, dupravka, kenedy and slimani wud be 50 Mill. So if he got that much and generated 20-30m in sales that wud do. He could spend say 5mill on each of 4 players to increase competition across the board. Alternatively spend the sales money on two new players for the right flank? Any thoughts?

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  • Munster Mag

    Apr 16, 2018 at 2:37 PM

    Comment #4

    Jay long time no hear

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  • Munster Mag

    Apr 16, 2018 at 2:38 PM

    Comment #5

    We have basically said the same thing Jay. 🙂

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  • jayphoto

    Apr 16, 2018 at 2:40 PM

    Comment #6

    Also… lot of rumours going round that Chelsea could deal for Kenedy at around the 10m mark…
    If kenedy goes anywhere for 10m, in a world where Pickford was 30m and Pogba was 90m,Sigurdsson was 50m etc then I literally have no idea who or what decides a players value…
    If that lads anything to go by, i’m happy if Rafa only buys from Chelseas reserves, be fine with seeing us buy Izzy Brown and Ruben Loftus cheek to go alongside Kenedy

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  • RobLeenio

    Apr 16, 2018 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #7

    Micky, interesting. Essentially, then, Ashley said in January put up or shut up and PCP have chosen to shut up – at least for now.

    Your assessment of Ashley’s long-term plan is interesting. He’s never said the club is off the market but even if it is still for sale, it doesn’t mean that all future planning would necessarily stop. He’s a businessman after all and will want to maximise his investment. He’s probably watching the value of this asset climb and wondering what level it can reach.

    The Martin Hardy piece which Jib pasted on the last post cites Rafa’s ability to pick and choose his own players since Graham Carr’s demise. I’m not sure it’s as simple as that and I’m not sure Slimani was Rafa’s pick, but if that’s the way it works out then if Rafa’s happy who am I to complain?

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  • jayphoto

    Apr 16, 2018 at 2:42 PM

    Comment #8

    @Munster – aye, been working out of the country alot, tend to only come on for a monday rant on an office day but those days are few and far ha, since i stopped coming on we started to win too….

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  • Munster Mag

    Apr 16, 2018 at 2:50 PM

    Comment #9

    Betty, thanks for that re Perez. I had said before that he could play at a higher level in Spain or even with a team like City. He wudnt be on the first team but his touch and subtlety would work there although he does get the head down too much. Maybe a footballing halfwit like Ruddy might revise his low grade opinion of the player now.

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  • Jib

    Apr 16, 2018 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #10

    Munster
    Jail is like a Rolex Oyster

    self-winding
    😛

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  • RobLeenio

    Apr 16, 2018 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #11

    Also on Slimani, anyone else think he was playing an unusual position yesterday? He was way out on the left side, ahead of Kenedy a lot of the time, so we had a left back, left wing and inside left with Perez then Joselu through the middle. The link up play between Kenedy and Slimani was great and created two clear chances, one for Kenedy and one for Perez, and I do wonder if this was maybe a strategy for this one match or if we should expect to see it in forthcoming games.

    It meant the Arsenal CB was often pulled out of position leaving space for Kenedy and Perez to run into, Slimani has really good feet for a big guy and was laying the ball off into the space. If we play like that going forward, expect Kenedy to get a few in the last games of the season.

    I imagine a ploy like this would take some work on the training pitch to get right. Why would Rafa invest that time in two loan players, unless he knows something we don’t?

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  • Munster Mag

    Apr 16, 2018 at 2:54 PM

    Comment #12

    I think Rafa might need and want more than Slimani up front but the beauty of the loan is how closely Rafa can now watch him and assess. I just gave a feeling he will want more pace. There again Jorgensen doesn’t offer that. I hope we don’t go for Jorgie over the Algerian though. Looking forward to seeing him in action again. Tosun doing well at Everton which is a bit sickening.

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  • Nufc 4ever

    Apr 16, 2018 at 3:06 PM

    Comment #13

    Sorry Bobby been to work the referees you are right they are a poor quality give me Collina anyday the only man to ref with his eyes. Its feel good factor on the blog isnt it pleasant no Jimnotsmiley, scratchy from sweden, .We do have to move on or we will lose Rafa do one fatty let this great club grow

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  • Pottsclock

    Apr 16, 2018 at 3:11 PM

    Comment #14

    Position 9th or 10th would give us around £120m from the TV money. (That was £73m the last time we were in the EPL, so a whopping £50m more). Each place higher in the table is worth £2m which I’ve included in the above figure.
    https://www.totalsportek.com/money/premier-league-prize-money/
    Then we have commercial incomes (shirt sales, sponsors etc.) and then the gate receipts – last time we were in the EPL those two together gave us another £53m.
    So that’s a total income of around £173m from which the costs, transfers and players wages need to be deducted. Players wages alone were around £75m the last time we were in the EPL.

    I’ve no idea on other costs, but on the basis of the above it would seem reasonable that we should have something like £50m available on transfers..with one caveat.

    That caveat is that the club owes Ashley £129m in loans and I assume he does not want any of it back until the club is sold. The majority of this (around £100m) was inherited as bank loans when Ashley took over which he paid off to avoid the club paying any interest and he charges no interest on this loan. (Compare with Sunderland who have similar debt and pay £8m a year to service it lol.) This has actually saved us at least £50m over the 11 years of his tenure – one of the few good things he’s done.

    One thing about Staveley or any other potential buyer. Transferring that £129m into another bank loan and/or adding to it to create a transfer kitty will kill us long term.

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  • jayphoto

    Apr 16, 2018 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #15

    @Robleenio – it did look like Slimani was given instructions to drift wide, possibly because Chambers out wide was having a horrible game, looked a nervous wreck and he struggled with Slimanis physicality.
    Not knocking Gayle, lad ran his socks off, but in the 25 mins we had slimani on the pitch, it was clear what a higher level striker could bring to this side! Cant see us taking Slimani in the summer (Dost or Jorgensen wouldn’t surprise me though) but I think we’ll see him start the next few! Im interested to see if Rafa goes full whack now for top 8 or decides to give Murphy and Merino and a couple of others minutes which could aid their development…

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  • Jib

    Apr 16, 2018 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #16

    RobLeenio
    Slimani’s positioning was Rafa trying
    to exploit the inexperience of the
    Arsenal sub – Ainsley Maitland-Niles

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  • Nostradamus the Geordie

    Apr 16, 2018 at 3:15 PM

    Comment #17

    I remember when the sale didn’t go through due to Newcastle’s run of games and us being in the bottom three.
    If I remember Amanda on many occasions said, they would come back in for Newcastle if they stayed up as Ashley didn’t want the relegation clause in the contract. Well we are staying up Amanda and what the hell are you doing, I would expect to see some report that your on your way to Newcastle to hash out the deal. Talk is cheap, lets gets the Jet engines primed, lets get sitting with Ashley where ever he might be and lets get cooking. Some have talked about Kenedy and Dubs plus Slimani singing for us, well Dubs and Kenedy are a must they have proven to be great loan signings but although Slimani looks good on the occasions he has come in I don’t think Rafa can make that call even with the games we have left, unless Rafa can give him 90 minutes on the pitch. Its going to be a great summer hopefully, England doing something good in the world cup, Ashley selling to Amanda or finally admitting that he needs to give Rafa the monies he deserves for players Rafa staying on and getting players he really wants. Its not to hard to figure this shite out, Ashley sells, Amanda buys, Rafa stays and the fans are happy. You see, easy as pie.

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  • lesh

    Apr 16, 2018 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #18

    Jiblets

    That Martin Hardy article’s interesting and provides hope. You really must pay attention though as it was posted last week if not earlier.

    However, as you claimed to have been in Spain thenabouts, you may have good reason to have missed said publication.

    Carry on.

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  • Dragon64

    Apr 16, 2018 at 3:17 PM

    Comment #19

    the way I see it if there was to be any takeover this should of been submitted straight after the game yesterday but was it no so in my eyes there is going to be no takeover and we are stuck with fatty. god I hope I am wrong

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  • hibbit

    Apr 16, 2018 at 3:20 PM

    Comment #20

    Dragon64
    how do you know there’s been no bid ???????????

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Apr 16, 2018 at 3:23 PM

    Comment #21

    Nicky,
    Our wage bill is roughly the same as it was ten years ago, the admin and backroom staff is at a bare minimum despite the tv money going up three fold, where’s it all gone Jimmy.

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  • DubaiMicky

    Apr 16, 2018 at 3:24 PM

    Comment #22

    Jay/Munster, Giving Rafa £50m plus player sales, you know there is an existing overhead, like wages etc. that needs to be settled.

    Rafa ain’t a CEO (nor is Charnley), surely that is the role that needs to be brought on board, run the club like a business? Why not? Cos if/when the Sky payments drop then any club that isn’t running as a business will fold. You just have to look at the great unwashed down the road.

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  • jayphoto

    Apr 16, 2018 at 3:58 PM

    Comment #23

    @DubaiMicky with the tv money and revenue available (believe 10th would land us 120m?) surely the clubs incoming financially should be nearer 150m+ which would make 50m transfer funds (especially when they are spread over the course of the contract) entirely feasible?

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  • lochinvar

    Apr 16, 2018 at 4:00 PM

    Comment #24

    Slimani on Sunday already just about justified his claim to a black and white shirt for next season and like Kennedy I think gets the whole Newcastle raison d’etre. Whether or not Jorgenson would I can’t say.
    Getting Slimani, Kennedy and Dubrovka signed now or by Day 1 of the transfer window makes sense. Then just a case of focussing on the additional players needed to challenge for top six.

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Apr 16, 2018 at 4:05 PM

    Comment #25

    Ashley won’t sell. Rafa won’t stay. We will hire pardew again and skirt with relegation next season.

    Welcome to the life of Newcastle United.

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  • DubaiMicky

    Apr 16, 2018 at 4:07 PM

    Comment #26

    @ilovetoon8788

    Macum?

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  • Jib

    Apr 16, 2018 at 4:08 PM

    Comment #27

    ilovetoon8788
    You forgot to add that we really lost 4 – 0 to Arsenal yesterday
    Prat

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  • Nostradamus the Geordie

    Apr 16, 2018 at 4:11 PM

    Comment #28

    Ilovetoon8788, you may want to change your name to IloveMackems. Positive thinking creates good karma for the club, you may want to rethink anything you say, especially if you said Newcastle would lose by 0 -4 yesterday.

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  • Bobbybee

    Apr 16, 2018 at 4:11 PM

    Comment #29

    NUFC forever. Pity we can’t clone him mate, he was an excellent ref. Like I said, we bring the best players over here, I don’t see why we can’t do the same with refs. They can continue to live abroad if they choose, just fly over for the games. 100k a year plus flights wouldn’t break the bank ffs.
    Too many of our refs are on first name terms with top players and that simply can’t be right. Pro refs who can’t make the WC is a disgrace.

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  • lesh

    Apr 16, 2018 at 4:16 PM

    Comment #30

    Pottsclock @14

    Crikey, are you suggesting that whoever buys the club buys the debt too?

    That being the case and if Ashley’s looking for north of £300m for it, then a buyer’s taking on an outlay of say £429m if it intends to clear the debt? It’s not surprising that potential buyers are few and far between.

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  • Dragon64

    Apr 16, 2018 at 4:17 PM

    Comment #31

    I don’t no Hibbit but guessing with nothing been said. but if you no different please share if you don’t want to put it on here send a msg any info would be better than none at all

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  • hibbit

    Apr 16, 2018 at 4:17 PM

    Comment #32

    ilovetoon8788
    as if anybody on here would be interested in your thoughts you sad mackem now bugger off back to pennywell were you belong

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  • Tsunki

    Apr 16, 2018 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #33

    The likes of catchy have recognised their game is up. There’s bound to be a straggler or two.

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  • hibbit

    Apr 16, 2018 at 4:25 PM

    Comment #34

    Dragon64
    i know nowt and even if i did i wouldn’t share

    just my thoughts on the matter the last time parties were holding negotiations were taking place there were more leaks than a sieve which were happening on a daily basis.
    i just think the first we will know is when a deals done

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  • Tsunki

    Apr 16, 2018 at 4:25 PM

    Comment #35

    Apologies if it’s mentioned before but if PCP lowballed Ashley they got seriously bluffed didn’t they? How much is the club worth now, any idea?

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  • DubaiMicky

    Apr 16, 2018 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #36

    lesh mate, the only debt NUFC has is to Ashley, it basically “Owes him” around £280m or so all in, no other debt.

    However, there is the small thing about how much he has taken out in things like advertising, property transfers etc. He’ll be £200m up if he takes £350m.

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  • RobLeenio

    Apr 16, 2018 at 4:31 PM

    Comment #37

    Tsunki, the doom and gloom merchants haven’t gone anywhere, they just know they’ll get a hard time if they post on here while the positivity is high and they can’t justify their position (not that they ever could). As soon as something happens / doesn’t happen the way we want they’ll be back and telling us how they were right all the time.

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  • Pottsclock

    Apr 16, 2018 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #38

    Lesh, I’ve never been sure when the price of the club has previously been mentioned whether the suggested price of £300m includes the £129m debt or not i.e. price without debt is actually £171m.
    It’s a point that needs to be understood because I seriously doubt he’s going to say “ahh…let’s forget the £129m Amanda because I like your smile.”
    I also think no one else is going to lend us £129m for free.

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  • Dragon64

    Apr 16, 2018 at 4:34 PM

    Comment #39

    hibbit
    don’t blame ya for not sharing the way ppl are on here. but yer think the same if or when it happens is the time we will find out it will all be done hopefully?

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  • hibbit

    Apr 16, 2018 at 4:36 PM

    Comment #40

    Pottsclock
    do you honestly think the £129m is interest free

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