Rafa – I Want To Start Talking About The Future At Newcastle


It has turned out to be a very successful season especially if we can get additional wins in the final five games of what has still been a tough campaign for Newcastle.

But since we lost 1-0 at Arsenal on December 17, fortunes have turned, and we have gained a good 26 points in the last 15 games in the Premier League.

Rafa has improved the players he has in the squad, and he has improved the way the players play together; they are a real (Rafa) team and spirits are sky-high at the moment.

The manager seems keen to push on from where we will be at the end of this season and start getting some better (and more experienced) players in during the summer and also let players leave the club.

Rafa Benitez with captain Jamaal Lascelles

He was asked about the transfer market and the future – as reported in the Chronicle:

“Yeah we can start looking early.” “We have to start talking about ideas for the future.”

“But first of all we need to know how much money is available, and then the prices of players.”

“It depends on the ambitions of the club.”

“We have to be on the same page. They know my idea(s), we know what every single fan is expecting, and we have to show we can do that.”

“I want to be in at least the top 10 and then win trophies, be it the FA Cup, the League Cup, Europa League or Champions League.”

“The situation is clear for me, I can feel the passion and ambitions of the fans.”

“Now I just need to know the club match my ambitions too.”

“I’d like to speak to them about that as soon as possible.”

“It is a massive club, but my position now is the same.”

It’s an exciting time for Newcastle fans and let’s hope we can make it five wins on the trot on Monday night at Everton.

Then we play West Brom at home – but they are starting to play well having drawn 1-1 against Liverpool today – so it could be a tough game.

A chance for the lads to demonstrate their professionalism.

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151 comments so far

  • Geordie-john

    Apr 21, 2018 at 3:59 PM

    Comment #1

    Lets hope Rafa has all his cards available when he confronts upstairs at SJP. Then he should be able to find out if he has a future at the club or if it is to be sold soon etc
    Go on Rafa give em hell mate !

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  • ronaldo aarons

    Apr 21, 2018 at 4:08 PM

    Comment #2

    “Nothing like a good Mitro-bitch to jog the forum along is there?” Too right tsunki, you were guilty of it last night lol.

    Tsunki

    Apr 20, 2018 at 6:08 PM

    Comment #44
    Mitrovic will no doubt score against the mighty Millwall cueing post after post about how he “should have been given a chance” and how we would have won the league if Benitez had not been so obstinate etc. Etc. Etc. I think I prefer the good pub guide and lineage of ice cream vendors.

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  • Tsunki

    Apr 21, 2018 at 4:08 PM

    Comment #3

    9’s post two threads ago illustrates what I was talking about. It’s not a question of getting the best out of mitrovic, it’s not having the luxury of a team to furnish his application, skill and temperament. Benitez had to build a unit, not plug skill holes in a team that already had all the other pieces in place. A run in Fulhams side does nothing more than say he was a missing part of a good championship side that needed filling. We have no reason to believe he will carry that form with him to the premiership either with them or us. What we do know is what he has done, and it’s not just Benitez that hasn’t got great results from him.

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  • Tsunki

    Apr 21, 2018 at 4:09 PM

    Comment #4

    You don’t have to remind me Ronaldo but you could have quoted my smiley. 😉

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  • Tsunki

    Apr 21, 2018 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #5

    Looking at the team Benitez has managed to climb the table at the crucial point, and then looking at how mitrovic had to go to Fulham to pull his finger out, would you say rafa has failed this season? Would you sack him for ruining £13m of striking talent? Or would you look at the whole picture and concede Benitez knows something we don’t?

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  • ronaldo aarons

    Apr 21, 2018 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #6

    I’ll remember next time lol.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Apr 21, 2018 at 4:14 PM

    Comment #7

    People can pick his philosophy apart all they like (and are entitled to do), but Rafa is a hero. Absolutely love him. He’s given the club so much back in such a short time it’s incredible.

    He get’s it. Gives me hope.

    Happy weekend to you all.

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  • Tsunki

    Apr 21, 2018 at 4:16 PM

    Comment #8

    You can pretty much say with certainty that Ashley’s ambitions don’t match. It would have to be another owner who has the stomach for stretching for cups and titles.

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  • ronaldo aarons

    Apr 21, 2018 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #9

    tsunki
    Nobody is calling for rafa to be sacked lol. Lets be honest Benitez wants him sold, did each summer last two seasons. The loan came about as it is the only way he could get him out.

    Ive said before he is entitled to decide his opinion on mitro, I want rafa as manager and he needs to mould the squad he wants. Hes never taken a liking to mitro and that is fine, football is all about opinions. Rafa decided hamsik wasnt good enough and decided that he wanted barry over alonso. Just 2 examples of me having different opinions to rafa regarding players. Cant say which is right or wrong. (except barry over alonso lol).

    What i have said numerous times is since mitro has been here, he should have got more than 15 league starts over 2 seasons under rafa. I mean joselu has 18 for this one season alone and it hasnt even finished yet.

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  • Tsunki

    Apr 21, 2018 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #10

    Rafas methods are evidently not to everyone’s taste. But crucially they were ideal for us and in his experienced vision, he knew it was and told us all to keep faith while we went through a horrendous pain barrier. We kept faith because we could see what he was working with and toward. He has totally vindicated his methods by results. Last year there was criticism of his methods and yet we came top – for some we should have come more top! Perhaps we can get to 8th by season end; I’m sure Benitezs methods will again be picked apart for failing to pick the right players to get into Europe. Even when he wins, he cannot win with some, but I suppose that’s being a premiership manager.

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  • ronaldo aarons

    Apr 21, 2018 at 4:28 PM

    Comment #11

    Hopefully Ashley sticks to his saying of rafa having all the money the club generates and player sales. Thats good enough for me and I would think it may be enough for rafa. Keep progressing each year as rafa continuously alludes to and this should essentially go up each year together. Do i think he will, not really lol. When has he kept his word? He also said he will leave when we win something, we won the championship!! Sell up lol.

    Ancient made the point yesterday that I have made previously. What would be better for us is to pay for players in installments as to up front. Paying upfront only is good for the other club if youre in a bidding war, we tend to avoid this so the only benefit is one for the balance sheet. Everton signed tosun in jan for something like £27m but it is spread over 4-5 years.

    Im not saying we should do this for every transfer but for a couple where we need a top striker for example would suffice. Thats what, £6-7m each year. Very manageable.

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  • Tsunki

    Apr 21, 2018 at 4:30 PM

    Comment #12

    Ronaldo – yet as far as can be recalled Joselu has played as the manager wanted, and not attempted to break anyone’s leg or cheekbone, not been sent off and not forced his manager to start again reshaping his match day team with limited resources.

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  • Tsunki

    Apr 21, 2018 at 4:33 PM

    Comment #13

    Manageable yes but they dont call it the never-never for nothing. It can become onerous paying millions of delayed instalments for long-gone players. It can make you drop a couple of divisions. 🙂

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  • ronaldo aarons

    Apr 21, 2018 at 4:36 PM

    Comment #14

    Tsunki
    Mitrovic has been sent off once under rafa and then got done this season retrospectively v west ham. Are you not overplaying this constantly at risk of getting sent off tag?

    I understand the risks but when you have bad management it is a big risk. Someone like rafa in charge, well lets say the risk is minimized. I think we may be the only club in the league too that continues this policy of paying upfront. Why does it not deter others?

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  • Munster Mag

    Apr 21, 2018 at 4:39 PM

    Comment #15

    Tsunki what do u mean at end of 3

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  • north east lincs toon

    Apr 21, 2018 at 4:49 PM

    Comment #16

    Burton score at the stadium of shite mackems say hello to league one he he !

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  • north east lincs toon

    Apr 21, 2018 at 4:50 PM

    Comment #17

    2-1 to burton get in

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  • Tsunki

    Apr 21, 2018 at 4:52 PM

    Comment #18

    Ronaldo he had a pretty appalling re order first season. Rafa preferred to use him sparingly in the relegation run in and was proved right with his showing against Spurs. Benitez had the decision made for him the start of the following season and in his patchy appearances managed to still gather almost as many yellow cards as goals. And look at where those goals were scored, in the main again at some pretty below par teams some of which we thrashed with goals from across the park. Strangely you look at his international discipline it’s one yellow in two years odd isn’t it? He might not have been a regular player but from recall he hardly lit a fire u der the championship in what many predicted would be his barnstorming year. When he ended up starting yet another season with a ban it would have been an idiot relying on him as a vital cog in a championship quality side being trained to hold its own in a division up.

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  • Tsunki

    Apr 21, 2018 at 4:53 PM

    Comment #19

    Munster end of post 3?

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  • north east lincs toon

    Apr 21, 2018 at 4:55 PM

    Comment #20

    Sunlun goal disallowed fantastic

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  • jazzyp

    Apr 21, 2018 at 4:59 PM

    Comment #21

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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  • lochinvar

    Apr 21, 2018 at 5:01 PM

    Comment #22

    Darren Bent for Burton – that really takes the biscuit

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  • jazzyp

    Apr 21, 2018 at 5:06 PM

    Comment #23

    110 in debt, Up for sale…Relegated.
    Happy weekend lads

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  • lochinvar

    Apr 21, 2018 at 5:07 PM

    Comment #24

    The last five clubs in the Championship all begin with the letter B

    Birmingham
    Bolton
    Barnsley
    Burton
    Bye Bye

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  • ronaldo aarons

    Apr 21, 2018 at 5:09 PM

    Comment #25

    Tsunki
    Not defending his discipline record but like you say his inernational record is very good in terms of cards. This shows he can be disciplined. His first season, yes 2 reds not great. If anything, that game v spurs showed everything about him. Goal, Assist, sending off and constant presence against the spurs defence, his performance was actually very good that match. He was 20 when he signed and 21 at the end of the first season. The following season he didnt play much but he never got sent off so that must be seen as improvement. He was targeted too and had a reputation. Let himself down v west ham but since then at fulham he has been great in terms of discipline. He got a lot of kicks if you saw the match yesterday and the fact he didnt react was very good. Overall, you have to say he has been improving and the incident at west ham is only a blip on a road to improving his discipline. Think there should have been a balance between relying on and giving him regular game time.

    Still its important to remember, last season he was 21 at the start of the season in the championship, he is 23 now and look at the difference. He is in an improving player in terms of goals and discipline. I think its unfair to judge him on his performances and discipline when he was still only 20/21.

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  • Tsunki

    Apr 21, 2018 at 5:10 PM

    Comment #26

    Oh dear. Shame that. On the plus side Plymouth and Southend are nice trips out. 😀

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  • lochinvar

    Apr 21, 2018 at 5:13 PM

    Comment #27

    It’s official
    Sunderland are relegated
    FT: Sunderland 1-2 Burton
    To confirm, Sunderland are going down for a second consecutive season.

    They’re six points from safety, with two games to go, but because Burton and Bolton will play each other next weekend, the Black Cats cannot mathematically survive, even if they win both of their remaining games.

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  • ronaldo aarons

    Apr 21, 2018 at 5:13 PM

    Comment #28

    lol @ sunderland. Im sure they said they would finish top too if theyre playing the likes of burton etc. they just got relegated by them at home and likely will finish bottom. Oh how I love fooball… sometimes.

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  • Novocastrian66

    Apr 21, 2018 at 5:14 PM

    Comment #29

    Lochinvar; Absolute classic.

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  • ronaldo aarons

    Apr 21, 2018 at 5:14 PM

    Comment #30

    ‘Enjoy burton’ they used to say.

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  • Novocastrian66

    Apr 21, 2018 at 5:14 PM

    Comment #31

    Happy, Happy Day.

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  • Tsunki

    Apr 21, 2018 at 5:15 PM

    Comment #32

    Ronaldo in the end he’s our player and I dont think many of us are willing him to fail. Perhaps rafa isn’t irritated that he’s only now levelling his head, it could be that his loan spell is the jolt rafa thought he needed. As you say, he’s still young. Shelvey has had his issues but seems to have ironed them out, maybe mitrovic still has an opportunity to finally come in to the fold? We will see.

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  • Tsunki

    Apr 21, 2018 at 5:17 PM

    Comment #33

    Ed can we have a dedicated “Wave bye bye to the mackems thread?” Pleeeeeeeaassseee???

    🙂

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  • Budge123

    Apr 21, 2018 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #34

    We can’t sing Going down staying up anymore.

    Now we have to sing

    GONE down
    STAYED up

    Sent down at home to Burton.
    Classic

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  • Moonraker15

    Apr 21, 2018 at 5:22 PM

    Comment #35

    Ronaldo
    I find it incredible that you are suggesting you know more than Rafa when it comes to players abilities. Mitrovic does not figure in Rafa’s plans! Get over it!

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  • Novocastrian66

    Apr 21, 2018 at 5:23 PM

    Comment #36
  • ronaldo aarons

    Apr 21, 2018 at 5:26 PM

    Comment #37

    Tsunki
    I would like to see him perform really well for us but I think that ship has sailed. To be honest, it is the best opportunity to sell him. He has 2 years left on his deal, hes in a great scoring run of form for fulham and is going to the world cup, likely as a start although jovic is pushing him. This summer is the best opportunity to sell him for the biggest price unless Rafa is going to gamble on him doing really well for us next year. I dont see it though, he wanted him sold 2 Summers straight and dont see it changing. Like i said that is fine, I disagree and other fans will too, doesnt make it right or wrong. Rafa needs to be able to mould the squad he wants, if that is without mitro then unlucky i guess.

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  • north east lincs toon

    Apr 21, 2018 at 5:29 PM

    Comment #38

    Well as that twat michael gray said onthe radio when they came down, i think we will get out of the championship at first time of asking you certainly have so,you nob!

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  • ronaldo aarons

    Apr 21, 2018 at 5:30 PM

    Comment #39

    Moonraker

    I suggest you look at my long post earlier today in a couple threads earlier.

    Would like you to quote me where I said I know more than rafa about a players abilities?

    me and tsunki have been having a decent discussion and if you have actually been following instead of whining then you’ll see I am ‘over it’.

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  • Mag :P

    Apr 21, 2018 at 5:55 PM

    Comment #40

    I feel like mitros time was up when Rafa entrusted him on the pitch against West ham and then he got himself a three match ban in the same game.

    Maybe he has only been sent off once. He has still clearly betrayed his managers trust. You could argue Shelvey did aswell however Shelvey has clearly been showing a willingness to stamp that side of himself out of the game with regular meetings.

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