Newcastle 5/1 To Be Relegated Next Season – 750/1 To Win Title

Without Rafa Benitez having brought one new player in or sent one player out SkyBet still have Newcastle down as 5/1 to be relegated and a massive 750/1 to win the title.

They think Newcastle will finish in 13th place next season and that’s down 3 places from this season.

What have they been smoking?

These betting odds may make more sense once the season starts and the Premier League clubs have their squads identified for the first half of the season.

Rafa Benitez – Newcastle United (long-term?) manager

Burnley are a club expected to slide from 7th place down to 15th place and they have promoted Wolves (10th) above Newcastle in the table – as well as Southampton (9th)  – who really struggled this season.

Both Brighton and Huddersfield are expected to finish in the bottom four with Huddersfield relegated in 19th place.

Remember Leicester City were something like 5000/1 to win the title when they did back in 2016.

Here’s the SKY Bet positioning:

1. Manchester City — 8/13 to win title
2. Liverpool — 9/2 to win title
3. Manchester United — 7/1 to win title
4. Chelsea — 11/1 to win title
5. Tottenham — 12/1 to win title
6. Arsenal — 25/1 to win title
7. Everton — 25/1 to be relegated,
8. Leicester — 14/1 to be relegated
9. Southampton — 9/1 to be relegated
10. Wolves — 6/1 to be relegated
11.Bournemouth — 11/2 to be relegated
12. West Ham — 5/1 to be relegated
13. Newcastle — 5/1 to be relegated, 750/1 to win title
14 . Crystal Palace — 9/2 to be relegated
15. Burnley — 10/3 to be relegated
16. Brighton — 5/2 to be relegated
18. Watford — 2/1 to be relegated
19. Huddersfield — 11/8 to be relegated
20 . Cardiff City — 5/6 to be relegated

Maybe this time next year we will be in the top six for the season after next – that would be real progress.

Comments welcome.

139 comments so far

  • Tsunki

    May 28, 2018 at 4:04 PM

    Comment #1

    Strange odds aren’t they. For those of you who are fond of chucking a carpet on a punt etc etc.. now might be the time to be on a fa cup win and 4th place finish 🙂

  • Bobbybee

    May 28, 2018 at 4:07 PM

    Comment #2

    Going off last season I’d say we’re only a few players off top seven. Two decent strikers, a number ten to push Perez, left back to challenge Dummett and same right back.
    Yes, we could upgrade elsewhere but we’ve got a great team spirit. That can be worth a lot of points in a season, so no need for too much disruption.
    All depends how much is available. If the figure being bandied about – £50m plus sales – is correct, then we really can push on. Of the teams around us, I doubt many others will spend much more. Seeing is believing though.

  • Bobbybee

    May 28, 2018 at 4:08 PM

    Comment #3

    1-0 Coventry. Great goal from the centre half, Willis. Curled one in from the edge of the box. Cracker.

  • lesh

    May 28, 2018 at 4:10 PM

    Comment #4

    I’d say that 5/1s based on the current, Ashley inspired mess!

    Sort things out and 750/1 should drop dramatically:

  • Bobbybee

    May 28, 2018 at 4:12 PM

    Comment #5

    I have bad memories of Exeter. Travelling midweek for a cup game against massive underdogs. Some things never change.

  • Bobbybee

    May 28, 2018 at 4:14 PM

    Comment #6

    2-0 Coventry and pretty much curtains. Shipley this time with a big deflection over the keeper. Bit lucky, but who cares? Not Coventry for sure.

  • Bobbybee

    May 28, 2018 at 4:28 PM

    Comment #7

    Oh yes! Another stunner for Coventry. Grimmer this time, curling one from the corner of the box. Two goals worth the cost of the ticket and journey. Belters.

  • bettyswallocks

    May 28, 2018 at 4:29 PM

    Comment #8

    I mentioned Grealish a few weeks ago as someone that may have eventually grown up and decided to focus on his football. He has caught the eye playing for a typical Steve Bruce defensive team. This was met with a fair bit of skepticism on here for obvious reasons as he has been a proper Jack the lad.

    If however he has matured and Rafa thinks he can handle him then he might be the number ten we have been seeking for ages. He can definitely go down the middle and beat defenders and has a good eye for goal.

  • magscar

    May 28, 2018 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #9

    Repost another bus I wasn’t expecting


    May 28, 2018 at 4:07 PM
    Comment #16


    I would guess I may be one of the upbeat “&Co” you referred to earlier.

    Football support is very different now than when the type of fan ( including himself) that Bobby describes started going. There was no Internet or even fanzines and discussion was with your mates before and after match and on terraces with others who stood around same area week in week out. There were often chants of “Sack The Board” in ground and outside main entrance – all to no avail of course because we didn’t have the power to sack anybody!

    Social media has arrived and now like other areas dominates Football and while being a force for good in widening and making communication easier it is also sometimes has a bad effect.

    If I recall correctly you are in the States ( or Canada) and are a lawyer ( sorry if I mix you up with other posters) I mention this as presumably you will have found it hard if not impossible to go to games so won’t appreciate that there are many Bobby’s around and his is very much a reality support through many difficult times ( far more than good). Forged in this style makes you a certain kind of fan not a better one just different.

    Room for all types but these type of fans are the ones who although called “sheep” by some through the Ashley years are actually a very big reason why Rafa is still here and why Ashley is actually being forced to face some unwelcome facts about the way forward. Getting through the hard times that we have experienced does often require a disconnect from ownership because the club is what we are supporting and always have.

    I often wonder if there had been social media back in 70’s and 80’s would there have been any sooner change than brought about by John Hall. I suspect not because without money, protest in or out of ground or on Blogs doesn’t change owners.

    I still retain the odd romantic notion about the world even at my age but definitely not about Football Club owners. Ashley will never completely change I suspect but can be bent to some degree and that is Rafa’s game

  • magscar

    May 28, 2018 at 4:37 PM

    Comment #10


    At £30M or so – given our likely budget would we not do better with more than a prospect with a bad boy past? He will interest other club for sure but probably one with money to burn and not worry if he doesn’t hit ground running

  • Bobbybee

    May 28, 2018 at 4:48 PM

    Comment #11

    Too little too late, but yet another good goal, this time from Edwards of Exeter. Won’t matter though I suspect.

  • Jib

    May 28, 2018 at 5:07 PM

    Comment #12

    We have defo got something going on
    in Northern Italy

    Earlier in the week Calciomercato linked us with Juventus’
    midfielder Stefano Sturaro
    We were supposed to be competing with Genoa for his signature.

    Last Summer Rafa enquired at Genoa about Uruguayan Diego Laxalt
    Juventus and Genoa own Laxalt between them (a common arrangement in Italy)
    Laxalt is very left sided – I think the Italian paper has got it half- right .
    Laxalt is our real target if Kenedy is a bust.

  • Bobbybee

    May 28, 2018 at 5:07 PM

    Comment #13

    Well put Magscar. 🙂 If they can’t handle this they would never have survived the eighties. Not all about instant gratification. This is nothing compared to the McKeag years. That tw*t banged the price of his shares up when he realised SJH was intent on buying him out.
    He’d shown zero interest in survival, let alone ambition, yet refused to sell up to someone who had. They’re all the same. Money money money. Ashley’s a tw*t in a long line of tw*ts.
    That said, and here’s an interesting question for those who do remember the truly bad days. Who would you rather have. Ashley or McKeag? And as mad as this may sound, Ashley would surely win.
    Although NEITHER would be my answer, the McKeag years were a true nightmare. We were a dying club. Hard facts.
    Anyway, I’m back to that dick so I’m bailing out.
    Look forward to seeing Coventry embarrass the mackems next season. Later.

  • Tsunki

    May 28, 2018 at 5:16 PM

    Comment #14

    There’s a lot of time being spent on proving a point that expired years ago but hey why not. It’s the here and the now don’t you know?

  • Tsunki

    May 28, 2018 at 5:17 PM

    Comment #15

    Nice detection work jiblock. Let’s see how your theory pans out. I personally agree that Kenedy is more likely to springboard elsewhere rather than return to nufc so some credence given to the left side machinations.

  • Jib

    May 28, 2018 at 5:24 PM

    Comment #16

    Ron Knee you out there ?

  • magscar

    May 28, 2018 at 5:36 PM

    Comment #17


    Which point was that? The one Bobby and I are on about is why there are “upbeats” (as Willowdalerez coined a ceratin group) taking consolation that we still have Rafa ( even with AShley) and why there are different viewpoints. Seems very current to me.

    If that wasn’t the point perhaps being a little more specific would help other posters guess 🙂

  • martoon

    May 28, 2018 at 5:38 PM

    Comment #18

    Magscar @9 – Good post and absolutely spot on. It always amazes me that most of the posters calling us sheep and demanding boycotts have never actually set foot in SJP! Even when they watch games it’s normally on a dodgy stream so they contribute nothing to the club via TV subscriptions etc. yet call themselves supporters -they haven’t a clue!

  • Dondatta13

    May 28, 2018 at 5:44 PM

    Comment #19

    Gets my goat when the press are suggesting that Lascelles can go for £25M – £30M and yet Grealish is quoted at £30M.

  • Jib

    May 28, 2018 at 5:44 PM

    Comment #20

    I once bought a pair of sandshoes
    at SD
    Do I qualify ?

  • Tsunki

    May 28, 2018 at 5:45 PM

    Comment #21

    The old “proper supporters” point.

    I think we all get it.

  • Munster Mag

    May 28, 2018 at 5:47 PM

    Comment #22

    Well maroon Bobby Magscar I’ve been to St James lots and in all sorts of crap and good grounds with my fellow Mags. Gotta get my boy over there to the toon soon

  • Jib

    May 28, 2018 at 5:49 PM

    Comment #23

    The old “Ashley is a tosser” point.
    I think we all get it.

  • Jib

    May 28, 2018 at 5:57 PM

    Comment #24

    I prefer to

  • Tsunki

    May 28, 2018 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #25

    Jib point out the last time I posted anything like that.

    My point is, and no offence to the old guard here, but the McKeag, Shepherd, Hall etc years are behind us all now, a new era has come into play where football has been dragged kicking and screaming into an age of online community, global marketing, and yes the ground still sits squarely in the middle of Newcastle but the fan base is a completely different thing from the throngs of desperately poor, flat-capped breadline workers who bonded at the weekend in brief respite from their mundane endeavours. Of course, those with the proximity and disposable income in their favour still hold sway in the match day attendance stakes, but the brand marketing and merchandising reaches far beyond the borders of the city. There are those who club together in small bands in cities around the world to watch live games at weird hours dressed in nufc regalia purchased with their own currency who have never set foot in the UK who don’t deserve to be excluded from voicing their opinions about what fans should do to effect change for the good at “their” club. You might not like it, you might not think they have earned their blood right to express it. But they have affiliated themselves with our club and have paid dues of some sort. So if you don’t like them saying “do this” or “do that” then disagree or ignore it. But don’t use the “never set foot in sjp” card that’s just disrespectful. This is an international blog built for the purpose of inclusion. Not for the “proper fans who live here” to tell them they ain’t worth nowt.

  • Tsunki

    May 28, 2018 at 6:08 PM

    Comment #26

    And anyway… Ashley IS a …….


  • Dagwoodz

    May 28, 2018 at 6:10 PM

    Comment #27

    Thanks Tsunki…as a yank, it’s good to see some people on here with at least a little sense.

    I would finish your sentence, but don’t feel like being censored.

  • Jail for Ashley

    May 28, 2018 at 6:20 PM

    Comment #28

    I’ll do it, Ashley is a to$$er!!!

  • Tsunki

    May 28, 2018 at 6:21 PM

    Comment #29

    Dagwoodz – I don’t think the intention is to belittle others but in trying to instill a sense of local attachment it usually gets to look like careless elitism.

  • ronaldo aarons

    May 28, 2018 at 6:23 PM

    Comment #30

    Don’t know anything about kerim mrabti other than the wise scouting system. Not really sold tbh but what do I know. Appears cheap and has a couple attractive attributes for an attacking player.

    No to skrtel (although we need an experienced cb to come in for lascelles).
    No to Torres.
    No to traore.
    Who else have we been linked with past couple days, I can’t recall.

    I know it’s just paper talk but I’m not really excited by any of the links. Was interested in Garry Rodrigues but his price has gone from £7-10m to something silly like £20m in a matter of months.

    We do need to bring in a left back to compete with dummett and for me we have to be in for philipp max. Some reason there are no serious suitors but his crossing and delivery is up there with the best in Europe.

  • jane

    May 28, 2018 at 6:24 PM

    Comment #31

    “This is an international blog built for the purpose of inclusion.”

    last night you said to a new blogger they should expect abuse as that’s what the internet is like.

  • Tsunki

    May 28, 2018 at 6:27 PM

    Comment #32

    If you have been a st holder man and boy and even if Ashley sold everything to himself and then charged the club rent for every thing and dragged us down two divisions you still would hand over your cash then great.

    But if you think it would be good to rally potential nufc merchandise purchasers to stop buying kit and subscribing to bein sports or whatever, then also good.

    And if as a remote supporter you entreat fans not to buy tickets, Baltimore (gahhhh) pies or four Coors for a tenner but you as a local fan say nah, then also good.

    Just don’t say it’s because you are better than them.

  • Mag52

    May 28, 2018 at 6:30 PM

    Comment #33

    5 to 1 against being relegated probably reflects the feeling that Rafa might well not be around in twelve months time.

  • Aces-of-Eights

    May 28, 2018 at 6:32 PM

    Comment #34

    Juventus dont own laxalt

  • Jib

    May 28, 2018 at 6:33 PM

    Comment #35

    Shee – it

    Tsunki is on a higher horse than usual

    Careful you don’t fall off that high horse
    into a sanctimonious pile of droppings

  • Jib

    May 28, 2018 at 6:34 PM

    Comment #36

    Never said they did
    but they have a financial interest in him

  • Jib

    May 28, 2018 at 6:39 PM

    Comment #37

    I said
    Juventus and Genoa own Laxalt between them
    (a common arrangement in Italy)

    perhaps should have said
    GENOA and Juventus own Laxalt between them

  • Jib

    May 28, 2018 at 6:42 PM

    Comment #38

    are you Mr Tuff’s apprentice ?

    Never actually post anything original
    just pick holes and look for faults in
    other folks posts.


  • Mister Tuff

    May 28, 2018 at 6:48 PM

    Comment #39

    Jib – there is nothing wrong with trying to be accurate. It’s just keeping things straight.

  • Tsunki

    May 28, 2018 at 6:52 PM

    Comment #40

    Was that your best retort jib? Closely followed by censuring another chumpwit about being nitpicky ha ha you are a classic! 🙂


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