Rafa Will Likely Find It Difficult To Sell This Player


Jack Colback has been at Newcastle for four years since he signed on as a free agent from Sunderland in 2014.

Jack fell out with Rafa last summer, and there is no future for him at his hometown club, and Rafa is anxious to get his £40K/week wages off the wage bill this summer.

He had a good loan spell at Nottingham Forest this year when he played 16 times with one goal.

Jack Colback in action for Forest

Tha Championship sides will be reporting back for pre-season training in a week, and Forest manager Aitor Karanka would like some Forest signing before then.

This is what Karanka has said:

“I hope we can bring in a few more players before we report back on the 25th.”

“When we finished the season I said I would like to start pre-season with as many of the new players as possible.”

There are two barriers to Forest signing Jack Colback on a permanent basis.

One is the £40K/week he gets at Newcastle and Forest will not be able to match that.

Then we feel Jack will try to hold out to become a free agent next summer and resist a permanent deal.

What he would probably prefer is another loan spell, and that would at least allow Newcastle to get his wages off the wage bill, but we wouldn’t get anything for him this summer.

Or next summer either.

We’d be surprised if Newcastle can get a permanent deal done for Jack Colback this summer.

Comments welcome.


37 comments so far

  • RobLeenio

    Jun 18, 2018 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #1

    Jib, it is always nice to be able to admit when you’re wrong, I agree. I was less dismissive of England and Southgate but was severely concerned for the safety of the fans in Russia and there has been not a hint of any trouble to this point. Long may it continue.

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  • Rafabomb

    Jun 18, 2018 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #2

    I’ll be happy if we can sign a striker that’s just clinical in front of goal……

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  • Jib

    Jun 18, 2018 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #3

    It was suggested by me among others that Ashley
    could “bridge” NUFC until the PL dosh arrives.
    It transpires that could be regarded as contravention
    of FFP rules .

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  • Oldgit1

    Jun 18, 2018 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #4

    @ RonLeenio Puton has ordered a news blackout on any violence so you will not hear of any attacks on any supporters.

    1
  • martoon

    Jun 18, 2018 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #5

    Oldgit1 @4 – Surely he can’t control all the British press that are out there and even if he could the stories would get out via FB, Twitter or some other social media!

    1
  • Pottsclock

    Jun 18, 2018 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #6

    One of the reasons why we’ll have a problem offloading Colback is that he is a very average player. Didn’t he also leave Sunderland only at the end of his contract, so a bit of a track record of seeing out contracts, though I suppose at Sunderland it was different because he was a regular starter in their cr*p team

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  • DubaiMicky

    Jun 18, 2018 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #7

    There is no loyalty, integrity or morality in Colback. Why another team would take him on with the full knowledge of what he does, is beyond me.

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  • DubaiMicky

    Jun 18, 2018 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #8

    having said that, whoever sanctioned the 5+ year contract needs to giver their heed a shake too.

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  • Jib

    Jun 18, 2018 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #9

    It would appear that one way or another NUFC will
    acquire a Balkan midfielder
    The story so far –
    Rafa fancied Valon Berisha the Kosovan
    midfielder from Red Bull Salzburg – however
    it looked like Sampdoria had won the race for his signature.

    Rafa turned his attention to Croatian wonderkid Lovro Majer
    but his mum Antonia thinks he too young to leave Croatia
    and he’s been offered a 5 year deal at Dinamo Zagreb
    (the club he supports)

    Valon Berisha has postponed his medical at Sampdoria
    as interest from NUFC has rekindled

    Watch this space

    http://www.ilsecoloxix.it/p/sport/2018/06/18/ACiQwRbE-berisha_complicano_affari.shtml

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  • martoon

    Jun 18, 2018 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #10

    Optimistic Panda @2 on last topic. That is a good article and even if some of the figures are not correct I had forgotten about Merino so he is correct that we have effectively spent about £10.5m already on Merino & and Dubravka. However he is not allowing for installments coming in for player such as Sissoko that we know is about £6m a year and there maybe others?

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  • martoon

    Jun 18, 2018 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #11

    DubaiMicky @8 – Very easy to say with 20 20 hindsight. However when we signed him there was no transfer fee so just paying wages seemed a good deal and most of us thought he was a canny enough player. If we had given him, say, a three year deal and he had done well and then walked away you would be saying the same thing. Quite difficult to find a balance between keeping hold of good players and being stuck with duff ones!

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  • Jib

    Jun 18, 2018 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #12

    According to the Spanish media
    Real Sociedad have upped their
    offer for Merino to15M .

    Hard to refuse that kind of money !!!

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  • DubaiMicky

    Jun 18, 2018 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #13

    martton, I wouldn’t have, a three year then walk on a free is fine IF YOU’RE NOT WANTED. The thing is with ginge, he’s basically using us. An example, would you stay in a marriage where one party had told you you weren’t wanted just to get your welfare benefits and knowing that others are taking your place in bed? Or would you leave, even if it meant a drop in earnings for a while, but at least you can hold your head up high.

    He’s another mercenary.

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  • Jib

    Jun 18, 2018 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #14

    €15M that is

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jun 18, 2018 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #15

    everyone saying mitro played well yesterday. sorry just didn’t see that. I know he had a run that resulted in a world class free kick, but that apart, still seemed quite slow and was missing chances, but to be fair he didn’t look like he was going to get a red card.

    Horrible rumours of what would appear very average players in Jorgenson, Rondon and lately Ayew.

    Surely 20M for Kenedy, a fast mobile genuine goal scorer and a creative number 10 and we’re good to go, as long as we can keep merino, Lascelles and the like.

    Unfortunately Colback, like Ashley, will hang around like a bad smell.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Jun 18, 2018 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #16

    jib

    merino could be worth 5 times that in a couple of years. just needs a very good osteopath.

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  • Moonraker15

    Jun 18, 2018 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #17

    Jib
    Re Ashley making a bridge “loan”, I find it hard to believe that the likes of Chelsea, Man City and others don’t get finance from owners. Their revenues don’t cover their player purchases.
    Having said that, Ashley doesn’t need to give these so called interest free loans as the club could go to a bank who would bend over backwards to give a low interest loan.
    Excuses, excuses! We should be able to compete with all but the top 5 or 6. He’s strangling our club with his policies. If he wasn’t getting a good deal he would’ve cut his losses by now. 11 years! How can you still be supportive of him? Please explain your reasons cos I’m baffled!

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  • Jib

    Jun 18, 2018 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #18

    Moonraker15
    Jib
    We should be able to compete with all but the top 5 or 6.

    We were 10th and a midgies dick away from 7th.

    Give yer heid a shake man

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  • martoon

    Jun 18, 2018 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #19

    DubaiMicky @13 – Yes I would and I’ve said on here before that a footballer’s career is relatively short and I don’t know why they would choose to be in the wilderness rather than go on loan and play regular football for a drop in wages. However your original question was why did he get a 5 year contract? Probably because in negotiations his agent would insist on it so we either agree or we don’t get the player. Like I say a 5 year contract protects nufc as well but it all goes sour when the player turns out to be a duffer – if you knew this at the time you would never sign them in the first place!

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  • Moonraker15

    Jun 18, 2018 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #20

    Jib
    I’m talking about competing in the transfer market you dick! And if you think the current squad could’ve survived without Rafa you’re deluded!

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  • Tsunki

    Jun 18, 2018 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #21

    Sorry jib but if the anti-Ashley chirps make your ears buzz stick your fingers in there because this “bridging loan” idea has no place at all in NUFC finances if our beloved benefactor would allow all the revenues attracted by the club to actually make it into the coffers instead of him sidelining a big chunk or two into his other interests. NUFC has its pockets turned inside out because it’s doing the footy business but someone else is getting the advertising, merchandising and entertainment money it attracts.

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  • ben.g

    Jun 18, 2018 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #22

    Funny this Rafa wasted 5 million on joselu.

    Shearer said that Rafa had Tammy and Javier Hernandez lined up ready to come and join Newcastle.
    They were then stopped from joining.

    Rafa has said in the past ” im signing players I can, not that I want”

    I guess when your told you have X amount for wages and transfer funds for a striker joselu pops up, lol
    Don’t know who else we could of bought for that amount?

    I think Rafa may go back in for Javier Hernandez. He’s not happy at West ham now and is wanting to leave.

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  • Jib

    Jun 18, 2018 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #23

    Moonraker15
    Jib
    I’m talking about competing in the transfer market you dick!

    So sorry

    I’ve got your measure now

    League position doesn’t count ,you
    just want to support a big spending
    club so you can boast to your pals !

    I’ve heard rumours of fans like you
    must be a recent thing

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  • AncientC

    Jun 18, 2018 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #24

    Jib struggling for more ways to defend Ashley. Jib tried FFP to defend Ashley before and was thoroughly rebuked. I even used the very same link that Jib had previously put up to disprove his very own argument. A club needs to be in breach of FFP (in the PL) for three years consecutively before action is taken against the club.

    There is no reason Ashley cannot give the club a “bridging” loan. And before the straw man gets attacked, I don’t recall anybody calling for loan. It seems a consensus that fans want the club ran correctly, and jigging the numbers to make things look worse so that Benitez has less to spend isn’t exactly appreciated.

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  • Moonraker15

    Jun 18, 2018 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #25

    Ashley is the only owner in the English leagues, possibly the world, who hasn’t got any ambition for success, other than SD publicity. Despite his penny pinching, it transpires thet we were close to oblivion had Rafa not got us back up!
    It’s hard to believe that a truly world class manager loves our club so much he’s prepared to put up with this twat! He can see so much potential and Ashley doesn’t! Now it looks like he won’t sell either! What a frustrating situation we’re in.

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  • Moonraker15

    Jun 18, 2018 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #26

    Jib
    It’s very simple! With a manager like Rafa buying true quality players we would be IN the top six and competing for a CL place! Which is where we were 11 years ago!
    But if you’re happy with 10th I respect your opinion. I don’t think you are happy though and just don’t get your loyalty to Ashley!

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  • Jib

    Jun 18, 2018 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #27

    Ancient
    I don’t mind arguing financials with
    Tsunki cos he makes an effort to
    understand bless him.

    But you !

    The blog’s own Diane Abbott ?

    ha ha ha

    You didn’t even realise that sponsors pay
    less when we are in the Championship
    😀

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  • Nicky the ball tosser

    Jun 18, 2018 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #28

    It hasn’t just been the revenue denied the club by Ashley, but even more damaging has been the succession of poor appointments and the flawed transfer policy.

    The latter two have been largely fixed, better late than never, but Rafa obviously could do with a bit more help financially.

    Credit to the owner for signing Rafa to 3 years in the first place, and for making the concessions that give him more authority, but he does need to do what’s required to keep him, and it’s well past time he kicked in for his advertising.

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  • Jib

    Jun 18, 2018 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #29

    Moonraker15
    In May 2007 (which is 11 years ago)
    we finished 13th which has never qualified
    a team for the CL.
    😀

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Jun 18, 2018 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #30

    Jiblet’s really is ”twixt” a rock and a hard place, balancing his unwavering support of our diabolical owner while trying to be supportive of the manager who is fast becoming a thorn in his side.

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  • Jib

    Jun 18, 2018 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #31

    Jail
    If you could understand what folk write
    you would see my support is far from unwavering
    but pretty balanced.
    You however take the simpletons view that problems
    are only caused by one circumstance.
    The concept of contributory factors is beyond your ken.

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  • Moonraker15

    Jun 18, 2018 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #32

    Jib
    We were still considered a top PL club at that time and the expectation was CL qualification.
    Our average PL position since 2007 is 11th including obviously 2 relegation seasons.
    How you can defend this owner is beyond me! By the way your comment about supporters like me is amusing as I saw my first match at SJP in 1957 so I’ve seen some lousy teams (and players) but every owner had ambition but no money! This one has money but no ambition!

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  • martoon

    Jun 18, 2018 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #33

    Whatever you think or say about Jib you have to admit it is entertaining when he takes on all comers! 😀

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  • lesh

    Jun 18, 2018 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #34

    On the subject of FFP rules I think it’s reasonable to assume that some owners want to invest in their clubs and will proactively look for ways of doing so and abiding by the rules.

    On the other hand, there are those owners who don’t want to invest and hide behind FFP rules. Some would even go so far as to manipulate their club’s accounts to show a huge loss by bringing forward massive wage costs, for example.

    Now we know that Mikey boy obeys all rules and thus the club has to stick by FFP, to the letter.

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  • Moonraker15

    Jun 18, 2018 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #35

    Martoon @ #33
    I agree Jib is entertaining; he’s the Stan Collimore of the blog!

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  • Moonraker15

    Jun 18, 2018 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #36

    ….with a bit of Joey Barton thrown in! Lol

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  • dig-n-dig22

    Jun 18, 2018 at 2:00 PM

    Comment #37

    Moonraker 36

    Is Jib a keen dog owner like Collimore was?

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