These Are Excellent Comments On Newcastle’s Current Serious Situation


There’s been a lot said of the common sense remarks Steve Howie, our former center-back, has been making as a pundit.

The difference between Steve and other pundits is he knows all about Newcastle and what’s going on with the fans.

Most of the other pundits – especially the national ones – don’t know what’s going on and a lot of them don’t have a clue – if truth be told.

Steve made these comments in a roundtable with Geoff Shreeves, Mark Warburton and former Newcastle striker Craig Bellamy on Sky Sports’ The Debate.

We aren’t much interested in what the others said but here’s some common sense from Steve Howey about what’s going on at Newcastle.

Sensible comments from former Newcastle star Steve Howey

It’s a long piece, reported in ChronicleLive today so you may want to make some sandwiches first.

“It’s going to be very difficult for it to get better. If you look at the teams who Newcastle have got coming up in the league; fans are very very frustrated with the fact of what happened in the transfer market or lack of – shall we say?”

“There’s a lot criticism that has been coming out about Newcastle fans, people saying ‘they think they’ve got a God-given right’ – that is absolute nonsense.”

“It’s not the case. You get people coming on saying this and that about the club and they haven’t got a clue what is going on.”

“The fact is, Newcastle fans are disappointed because they can’t see the club moving forward, they can’t see the club progressing in anyway.”

“They had a perfect opportunity at the end of last season they finished 10th, now there’s an opportunity to progress.”

“Newcastle made £123M from the Premier League and TV last year plus £43.5M in player sales, now Mr Ashley was on Sky and actually used this as a platform to say ‘Rafa Benitez will get every penny the club generates’ – hat hasn’t been the case.”

“He said he wants to sell the club – that hasn’t been the case. Or he’s put it up and he’s got it up for too much money.”

“Now Rafa Benitez for me should have been at least given the money he got for selling the players – he didn’t.”

“This is what narks the fans – Rafa Benitez has spent £13M on three players which doesn’t get you anywhere in this day and age.”

“Newcastle fans are not asking, like Mike Ashley said, a budget where he can’t compete with the likes of Manchester City.”

“Of course, we’re not expecting to compete with Manchester City or Liverpool or Chelsea – we’re not.”

“We’d just like to compete with the rest of the teams.”

“Now spending £13M on three players, isn’t going to get you a great deal but when you look at teams like Huddersfield, fair play to them, they’ve gone out and spent £17,5M on one player.”

“Bournemouth broke their record and paid £15M for Jordan Ibe and they’ve only just paid £25M for another player this summer.”

“If you look at Newcastle, Rafa has not been given the opportunity to bring players in. You’ve got a world-class manager there and he’s not been given the tools to work with.”

“If he’s not been given finance and he’s finished 10th, how good can he be if he’s given a little bit of money behind him because at the moment he’s working with hands behind his back.”

“The teams that I’ve mentioned – before Ashley came – we were playing in the Champions League.”

“In 10 years I think we finished 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 7th, two FA Cup finals, two semi finals, Champions League, UEFA Cup.”

“We had the most expensive striker in the world which was Alan Shearer in 1996.”

“Now they break their record again in 2005 for Michael Owen and that’s it – it’s stopped.”

“It’s galling for the fans when they can see all these other teams breaking records, when Newcastle’s record is £16M.”

“The fans are getting behind the manager. If he wants an all out mutiny [then yes], which would happen, because Rafa is the one that the fans are pinning their hopes on.”

“He is Newcastle’s biggest asset. Why would you get rid of your best asset? You lose him and you haven’t got the strength and depth of quality which Newcastle haven’t got – they’ve got really good pros who work hard and do to the letter of what Benitez asks.”

“If they lose him they are going to struggle.”

“I’d be surprised if he resigns. I think he’s one of these people – that’s he’s given his word to the owner and said ‘look I’ll sign this contract and I’ll honor this contract’”

“I think he does get the fans and the city, the fans love him for that.”

“When you’ve got the players Newcastle have got, if you go toe-to-toe with the big boys, it’s going to be a bad day for you. Now everyone was criticising Newcastle for the possession and they got beat but they were still in the game.”

“Huddersfield played Manchester City – they had 5% more possession – they got beat 6-1.”

“All very well people saying ‘they should have had a go’ but I bet there’s no one in that Huddersfield dressing room turning around after being thumped 6-1, say ‘well lads we give it a go.’”

Very good points made there by Steve Howey – but expect these national pundits to keep criticising Rafa, Newcastle and the fans in the weeks (maybe months) ahead.

And what does it all mean – absolutely nothing!

Remember that when you read the nonsense that will be coming in the national football press over the next few weeks.

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75 comments so far

  • DubaiMicky

    Aug 30, 2018 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #1

    Ding ding:-

    Murphy, Perez and Rondon to start at Citeh please. Murphy made a massive change when he came on. As for the other 7 (Dubs is in goal), who knows.

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  • RobLeenio

    Aug 30, 2018 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #2

    I hadn’t realised Bellamy was on the same programme. I hope he was hanging his head in shame.

    Good on yer Steve

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  • the white tino

    Aug 30, 2018 at 12:30 PM

    Comment #3

    Anyone know the connection between perennial real estate, Singapore and Newcastle or FCB??

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  • Optimistic Panda

    Aug 30, 2018 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #4

    I see things the same Steeve lad

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  • RobLeenio

    Aug 30, 2018 at 12:34 PM

    Comment #5

    tino, the connection was through a Singapore-based nightclub owner which happened to be called St James’ Holdings Limited, as opposed to the Mike Ashley owned St James’ Holdings Ltd, based in the UK.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=37096856

    Nowt to do with us.

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  • the white tino

    Aug 30, 2018 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #6

    ROBLEENIO then why when you Google them it states we’re a subsidiary of them??

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  • catchy in norway

    Aug 30, 2018 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #7

    Rob

    why does it have to be one of the merry go round managers that have only in the premiership ?

    like i have said many times, i’m not a scout, i’m not one of these who plays championship manager, And now i have kids 7/16/20, i simply don’t watch a lot of football, i used to play football 5 time a week until the age of 25 then cut it back to 3. dunston activity center thursday friday leagues, and friendly matches in the pits place in the teams. i simply go of what i see from who we have.

    I think people like charmless earn there money from saving money, he isn’t the right guy to find a replacement to. someone at the club needs to pick a philosophy, then stack the club with like minded people,

    what i do know is there is loads of goo coaches all over europe not getting one tenth of what Rafa gets, and they have there teams playing better football and getting results, they play champions league football most seasons. saints took a chance on pochettino, he couldn’t speak to his players directly and still had them playing great football.

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  • Toon&oot

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:00 PM

    Comment #8

    Howie just saying what every level headed fan is. It’s embarrassing to hear some of the shite pundits and ex pro’s are coming out with. Sky seem to be taking a more ‘open’ approach to the goings on at Newcastle and comments like Howie’s add support to our arguement against Ashley and co. Well done that man!

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  • RobLeenio

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:02 PM

    Comment #9
  • Rob1971

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:05 PM

    Comment #10

    Catchy thats because we have always had managers that have managed in the premier league under Ashley, he has never went for an inexperienced foreign coach, this is Charnley thats doing the appointing do you seriously think he will get one from abroad?

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:06 PM

    Comment #11

    Yes catchy and he left after a season as did Koeman before their luck ran out with Pelligrini.

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  • Rob1971

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:07 PM

    Comment #12

    Catchy you just answered my question in your long essay, Charnley isn’t the right man but he is there and Ashley won’t change him so he will do the appointing and it will be a manager that is free and available like Pardew etc

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  • c-dog

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:07 PM

    Comment #13

    Excellent comments by Howey. And the real feelings of the real fans.
    Go on about positivity and getting behind the players all you like. What Howey is saying are the only facts true supporters dwell on.
    Leave the other crap for the Mackem WUMs like The Jib

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  • Rob1971

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #14

    Jail catchy does not seem to grasp that in Ashleys philosophy we get managers that are free and not currently at a club, they have to have premiership experience to keep us up, a look at the managers in Ashleys reign tells you that

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  • DubaiMicky

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:12 PM

    Comment #15

    Dubravka
    Yedlin Lascelles Fernandez Dummett
    Ritchie Shelvey Diame Murphy
    Perez
    Rondon

    Is hopefully my team for Saturday, providing Shelvey and Lascelles are fit of course, but I’m thinking maybe, with the 2 week break coming before Arse, then Rafa will keep them back so they’re fully fit for the next game (which is more winnable).

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  • Rob1971

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #16

    Simple fact is Ashley won’t change his stance Catchy, Charnley is doing fine for him he won’t let him go so any managerial appointments are going through him, Ashley/Charnley won’t take a risk on foreign coaches who are inexperienced to the premier league that’s how we ended up with Pardew & Mclaren, Pochetino/Silva etc would not have been entertained at the club

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  • Munster Mag

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #17

    Jail to answer your question, no I wudnt sack Rafa. And I don’t know who cud replace him. But we have been poor since preseason and absolving Rafa from the crap we saw last night and at Cardiff is crazy.

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  • Rob1971

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #18

    I think we have a similar model to Southampton they made profits in a lot of transfer windows which annoyed their decent managers then their luck ran out when they got snapped up by ambitious clubs, they have ended up with Mark Hughes, the type we will get when Rafa goes

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  • c-dog

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #19

    @dubai agree with team although Clark might feel aggrieved
    Kenedy either needs to be dropped or score a hat trick. He’s been dreadful and seriously needs to deliver. He’s meant to be one of our key men and has been a passenger

    I don’t think anyone could disagree with our over reliance on Shelvey now

    Or that Ki is nowhere near the level of Diame

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  • Rob1971

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #20

    Thats fine Munster, it’s the ones that say he needs to be sacked or he should have been sacked after we beat chelsea 3:0 and finished 10th, that is way over the top, they are not grasping that sacking Rafa or him walking at NUFC wont improve anything, we won’t suddenly improve as team, just as we didn’t when Pardew (who was horrendous left), we actually got worse as we got Carver, then we got worse again with Mclaren, Rafa brought himself forward to the club he made Charnley’s job easy, the next one won’t be so easy

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #21

    Munster,
    If a manager is responsible for woeful football and poor results and he gets sacked. You don’t want him absolved of the blame so what are you suggesting. Get Peter Beardsley to tell him to attack more?

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  • lochinvar

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:25 PM

    Comment #22

    Richard Keys mouthing off is a distraction. His little empire is about to come tumbling down when his wife takes him to the cleaners for according to the press his tacky liaison elsewhere and false promises to his wife. I suggest she starts with taking a large chunk of the £430,000 Bein pay him.

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  • Slank

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:31 PM

    Comment #23

    DubaiMicky

    Dubravka
    Yedlin Lascelles Fernandez Dummett
    Ritchie Shelvey Diame Murphy
    Perez
    Rondon

    I think you are right about Lascelles and Shelvey. Why risk them especially as, without being negative but, a defeat looks likely.

    I agree about Murphy. Kenedy does not deserve a place based on recent (lack of) performances. I think the team could be:

    Dubravka
    Yedlin Schar Fernandez Dummett
    Ritchie Longstaff Diame Murphy
    Perez
    Rondon

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  • hibbit

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:31 PM

    Comment #24

    Rob1971

    i think the way things are going we will be fishing further down the food chain than a Mark Hughes type of manager who have running conracts,

    Ashley/Charnley won’t pay clubs compensation for a manager already under contract

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  • jimmygscot

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:32 PM

    Comment #25

    Best 2 players at the toon are Jonjo and Lascelles who were both here before Rafa. Rafa has had over 2 seasons to buy a no 10 a LB And a decent Striker . Mitro Gayle and Colback must be having a right laugh. Need to hang on to Gayle for next years Championship campaign

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  • hibbit

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:38 PM

    Comment #26

    jimmygscot
    and how long did it take for those 2 players to settle in ???

    and yet people are judging the new signings after 2/3 games

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  • Swanny

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:39 PM

    Comment #27

    There’s a lot of Black propaganda engulfing Rafa at the moment and I suspect there’s more heading his way. Defeats to City and Arsenal will only increase the criticism and doubts surrounding Rafa’s tenure. Ashley is flexing his muscles and with the help of his cohorts is systamaticaly conducting a character assasination on Rafa Benitez. Stick fast fellas it’s going to get rough……..IN RAFA WE TRUST

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  • Rob1971

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:39 PM

    Comment #28

    Yeah I mentioned that to Catchy Hibbitt, I meant a Hughes style of manager, thats why I keep mentioning Pardew etc, but I am convinced Allardyce will endu up here, especially after Ashley apologised on sky for sacking him

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  • c-dog

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:42 PM

    Comment #29

    Ostracising Mitrovic was a mistake. Letting Gayle go was a mistake. He’s not a coach who knows much about attacking play. But he is a collective and defensive genius. And with our transfer record it’s what we need but he’s gonna walk at the seasons end. By that time maybe third rate managers like Monk or Clement will fancy being Ashleys yes man. Or could always go back for AP.

    In Rafa We Trust!

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  • catchy in norway

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #30

    Rob Jail

    i think you are wrong, I think getting Rafa showed he tried to please the fans in some strange way, he went for a top level coach in Rafa, and paid him top money, although i wouldn’t die on a hill for it, i think they would.

    I do think Ashley has been let down by other people around him, talking in his ear like wise rat, even bean counter charmlless, Carr, and i think he has backed there judgments.

    like Bellamy said. Ashley is a very good business man, but he is not a football man, and i see the money he could make in Europe with some money spent, but he has had fingers burnt 2 times by poor choices.

    at the end of the day, Rafa has to trust his players, if not they will relegate is or get him sacked. it’s that simple

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  • c-dog

    Aug 30, 2018 at 2:01 PM

    Comment #31

    I don’t trust the the players at Rafas disposal anyway so have no idea how hee could.

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  • griff

    Aug 30, 2018 at 2:08 PM

    Comment #32

    catchy in norway

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:56 PM

    Comment #29

    I was thinking you were just a sourpuss. But not an Ashley apologist…

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  • Rob1971

    Aug 30, 2018 at 2:17 PM

    Comment #33

    Catchy Rafa came forward to NUFC, Charnley didn’t go to him about the job

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  • Rob1971

    Aug 30, 2018 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #34

    Catchy you still don’t seem to grasp the fact that they will go for a manager that has managed in the premier league before, Ie, Pardew, Mclaren, Rafa, Kinnear had all managed in the premier league before, Carver was a stand in as they thought they were safe, Houghton was originally the caretaker while the club was for Sale, he only got the job full time after were were top of the Championship and Ashley decided he was staying and not selling up, he will not go for a unproven foreign manager, it will be manager who knows the league

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Aug 30, 2018 at 2:22 PM

    Comment #35

    catchy,
    Ashley tried to please the fans by hiring Rafa??? It was a last throw of the dice trying to salvage the mess he’d made. He’s undermined him ever since promotion looked likely which has done nothing at all to please the fans.

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  • Rob1971

    Aug 30, 2018 at 2:23 PM

    Comment #36

    Catchy remember Ashleys reason for sacking Hughton? they wanted someone with more experience of the league!

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  • Rob1971

    Aug 30, 2018 at 2:24 PM

    Comment #37

    Jail Ashley didn’t even approach Rafa, nor did Charnley, this Ashley got Rafa in from the media is a pile, he also had no choice after appointing the disaster that was McClaren

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  • Keith G

    Aug 30, 2018 at 2:26 PM

    Comment #38

    If we had bought Kennedy for say £20 million – given his performances this season who would some of the bloggers or TV pundits blame, Rafa, Charnley or Ashley ?

    In my opinion, Newcastle should have hammered Forest last night – even with the team Rafa put out. Isn’t about proving to the manager you are good enough for the first team and trying your very best. We were sh-t and didn’t deserve anything from the game.

    A number of our players talk a very good talk but when it comes to delivering they just don’t . Didn’t Asu say we would see the best of him this season after having his op ?

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Aug 30, 2018 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #39

    Rob,
    Who does catchy think is going to interview this up and coming manager and ask him his footballing philosophy and his ideas for the club.
    He is completely out of touch with what’s happening at the club.
    Charnley called McLaren the perfect fit ffs.

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  • Optimistic Panda

    Aug 30, 2018 at 2:39 PM

    Comment #40

    Catchy

    How can Ashley make money in Europe?

    If by some miracle Nufc made it to the CL then all Ashleys ads would have to be removed from the ground due to competition rules. No way he’s going to spend if he’s not get his number 1 priority, advertising for SD.

    As for the UEFA cup the money he’d need to invest to win would be similar levels to the CL with a fraction of the rewards and a fraction of the viewing figures.

    There’s no way for Ashley to make money in Europe and no extra coverage, he’ll never push for Europe!

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