Somebody In Authority Must Explain Why Ashley Is A Fit and Proper Person To Own Newcastle


If we are relegated this season (once again) the Premier League and/or Parliament, need to look at how owner Mike Ashley has ruined the club.

They need to better define what a “fit and proper person is.”  and tell our fans how Ashley it fit to own Newcastle United.

The fit and proper person requirement was introduced back in 2004, and it was an attempt to stop clubs from becoming owned by unscrupulous owners.

Before that “test” was introduced, there was nothing at all to stop a Mafia King from owning a Premier League club.

Mike Ashley uses Newcastle as a worldwide billboard for Sports Direct – shame on you

But that test seems to be subjective at best, and how can Mike Ashley be a fit and proper person to own a football club given his record at Newcastle?

He’s shown over 11 years that he’s not a fit and proper person and has taken Newcastle down twice to the Championship.

And we have also fought relegation in quite a few other seasons and just survived.

Here’s his pathetic record at Newcastle over the last 11 years.

Premier SeasonPositionNumber of Points
2007-20081243
2008-20091834 - relegated
2009-20101 (Championship)102 - promoted
2010-20111246
2011-2012565
2012-20131641
2013-20141049
2014-20151539
2015-20161837 - relegated
2016-20171 - (Championship)94 - promoted
2017-20181044
2018-2019202 - after 9 games

Ashley has been voted the worst owner in the Premier League this season because he simply refuses to spend the club’s money and improve the side.

Ashley has used Newcastle as a worldwide advertising board for his Sports Direct business.

There’s something seriously wrong when that’s allowed by the Premier League.

He has not paid anything for that advertising, but he has given Newcastle interest-free loans, which are still outstanding at around £128M.

And he hasn’t attended a game in the Premier League since we were promoted 18 months ago – an absent owner indeed.

Maybe our best chance of ridding Newcastle of Ashley is through Labour MP Chi Onwurah, the shadow minister for industrial strategy, science, and innovation.

She is the MP for the Newcastle Central constituency which includes St. James’ Park.

She introduced a petition in the House of Commons last July pointing out that Ashley has failed to invest in “players, training facilities and community engagement.”

That’s the problem – it’s not that he will not invest his own money in the club – we don’t need that.

But what we need him to do is to give Rafa Benitez some of the club’s money to spend in the transfer window – he’s not doing that.

In the summer we made a profit of £20M, and now we are 3rd bottom of the league, and it looks like another relegation fighting season for the club.

Nothing new there.

We cannot understand how he can be a fit and proper person to own Newcastle United – given his terrible record at Newcastle United since 2007.

Somebody in authority needs to do something about this so we can save the club.

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71 comments so far

  • Bambams

    Sep 16, 2018 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #1

    Who knows how the powers that be decide who is fit and proper. I suppose at the time nobody knew who he was or had any idea how he intended to run the club – but everyone knows now.

    I just wish more former Toon players added more weight to the campaign and ridiculed Ash. Maybe this is one of the reasons we have heard nothing more about Pedro and the bullying allegations – if he got sacked could he become a loose cannon ?

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  • SUTTY1978

    Sep 16, 2018 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #2

    Next Mike,

    I said scouting list, I also said Spanish speaking I.e. Rondon. The question you should ask is

    Why are Joselu & Manquillo here?

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  • Optimistic Panda

    Sep 16, 2018 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #3

    It’s funny how a Spanish speaking player left in the summer using his NOT PLAYING ENOUGH clause yet no one mentions him!

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  • SUTTY1978

    Sep 16, 2018 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #4

    Next mike,

    Also not sure Rondon is above Joselu in the pecking order. Seen nothing to suggest that so far.

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 16, 2018 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #5

    Why are Joselu and Mabquillo here? Because we needed players and Ashley wouldn’t buy them, so we had to get whatever we could get.
    Remember, they came after Ashley had broken yet more promises re spending, so they were desperation signings to fill the squad. Not been paying attention much?

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  • The next Mike Williamson

    Sep 16, 2018 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #6

    So what if he buys Spanish speaking players. He has good knowledge of his home country. Although the scouting on Joselu and Manquillo seems to come from 5 years ago when they were both top young players at the two Madrids. Every manager makes mistakes. It’s not a problem when they are cheap mistakes or loans or free transfers. The problem would be if he spent £20-30m on a flop. That would set us back a year or two as we can’t just write it off as other teams do. So far this hasn’t happened to us mainly because Ashley won’t sanction many signings over 20m.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Sep 16, 2018 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #7

    Jeez there are some real reactionary Einsteins on here.

    First you have Sutty who needs to be reminded that there’s no Z in Xenophobia. We only have 2 Spanish players who get anywhere near a regular start in Perez and Joselu and even they are quite often subs. Manquillo and Josely are here because they were probably 6th choice down on the list and the reason we made a net profit in the transfer window. Not rocket science is it. So just a little perspective needed there.

    Then there’s Jarra Mick who says Rafa never does the honourable thing. Suggest you look at his charity work and the links he’s forged with the youth and within the community. Also does your tiny brain not think he could go to China tomorrow and get 20/30M a year.

    Rafa is highly intelligent and has often changed his style over the years, especially when he has some proper players at his disposal. You don’t become manager of RM for no reason.

    Posada has it right I think. Ashley has fundamentally killed Rafa’s drive and enthusiasm and undermined him at every turn. There is nothing to look forward to under Ashley, all ”hope” has been extinguished under Ashley’s seemingly never ending daily barrage of lies and greed.

    We have no PL standard players, bar Dubravka and maybe Lascelles, Shelvey and possibly Kenedy on a good day, all of which is which is nowhere near enough. At least Pardew was gvien the chance to blow it with Ba, Cisse, Cabaye, HBA, Tiote etc all in their prime and McLaren laughingly been given 80M will haunt us for a long time.

    I think Rafa is very much doing the honourable thing by seeing out his contract but he wouldn’t be human if he hasn’t now lost some of his mojo, energy and fight with Ashley’s shenanigans. 52000 every match will make sure Ash goes nowhere so the status quo remains as toxic as ever. Sad times indeed but does the record ever change

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 16, 2018 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #8

    Ask his shareholders and they’ll tell you he’s not a fit and proper person to run his tat empire, let alone a football club.

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  • Optimistic Panda

    Sep 16, 2018 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #9

    Mike

    He won’t make any signings over £14m buddy, you’re away with the mixer if you think Ashley would spend £20m on a player lol.

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  • Aces-of-Eights

    Sep 16, 2018 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #10

    Didnt rafa want to sell xabi alonso so he could sign gareth barry?

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 16, 2018 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #11

    Christ, he didn’t sanction double figure signings this window, in case some of you hadn’t noticed. We spent £13m on THREE players.
    That would be embarrassing for a team like Burton Albion – who beat the mackems yesterday 🙂 – let alone a club pulling 52k every home game.

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  • Slank

    Sep 16, 2018 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #12

    I believe the ‘fit and proper’ test is part of the (league / FA) evaluation of a prospective owner.

    It is my understanding that it was only introduced when it was discovered that the league / FA had allowed a number of unsavoury characters to buy English football clubs.

    I remember the Thai crook who bought Man City. I wonder whether Abramovich would fail a test today as many rich Russians, especially those close to Putin, are persona non grata in the UK.

    Owners who buy clubs are rarely life long supporters of the club they own and some not even football fans. The bloke who owns Man City has only attended one match in ten years.

    Almost all owners, I suspect, have commercial / financial motives for owning a club unrelated to the club itself. I would be very surprised if our next owner is not of that group and not have commercial / financial motives linked to his other enterprises.

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  • posada

    Sep 16, 2018 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #13

    Mike Ashley would pass a fit and proper person check. Has no convictions and is not a bankrupt.

    That test is a joke anyway. How do you do that test on a Russian. Do you ask Putin for a reference.

    Looks like the Russians are getting out of town with their money. That fella at the Arsenal was holding onto his shares for years. Now suddenly he is gone.

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 16, 2018 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #14

    Bit of sport science for you. If you play when you’re not at peak fitness, or suffering from jet lag, you risk suffering injuries. These are just facts you can’t mess about with.
    So if Rondon wasn’t 100% and we played him – or anybody else – chances are they would pick up an injury and be out for longer. That’s why football clubs invest heavily in sports science experts.
    A slight injury might be run off – hence why he gave Lascelles chance to run of a niggle he picked up in the warm up – but once it became clear it was more than just a niggle he brought him off.
    If we’d invested anywhere near the money a club our size should invest, we might have greater options on the bench. But we don’t, so Rafa has to juggle.

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  • giimps

    Sep 16, 2018 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #15

    The term “fit and proper person” means nothing, I very broad set of criteria mainly based on criminal record and being non bankrupt, the trouble is, nobody cares south of Newcastle other than fans.
    Cashley has gradually lessened the emotion, hope and will of the fans, we are the last of the “glamour clubs” to be bought by the super rich ( obviously it hasn’t happened yet) and by “glamour clubs” I mean, huge stadium, one club city, desirable for other fans to come to due to the area, a little recent history of challenging for honors without winning anything of merit….there is so much good at the club and area, the problem begins and ends with Cashley, my hope is that the rumors are true that the slug wants SD back and may have to sell us to achieve that, if the shareholders at SD, can annoy him so much, maybe we target the board members with anti Ashley propaganda just to force the issue, also the rumor of him reducing his price from 400m to 300m has SD advert written all over it ( raise the price of something for a length of time and reduce it again to what it was originally but with a sale notice on it is legal and Cashleyesque, either way, he is the reducer of expectations, the damper of hope and the chasm of despair for our club and personally , like I did when Thatcher died, I will have a little smile when he does too.

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 16, 2018 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #16

    Giimps, well said mate. 🙂

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  • DubaiMicky

    Sep 16, 2018 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #17

    giimps, how many “huge stadium, one club city” are there?

    I can’t think of any in the UK other than us, suppose Barca, PSG fit, difficult to think of any others.

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 16, 2018 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #18

    I think he put the price up because he’s a chancer. (Chancer or cancer?) I reckon if anybody actually offered him 300m – or thereabout – he would take it. Problem is, his gamble failed again. Failing to invest a few million more sees us at the bottom – although fixtures carry a lot of that – so nobody wants a club that might get relegated.
    It seriously beggars the question as to how on earth he became so rich?

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 16, 2018 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #19

    Off the top of my head Leeds, Cardiff, Swansea, Norwich…

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 16, 2018 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #20

    The difference is simply that people from those cities support the top six clubs, whereas we support our home club. You could add Sunlun to that list too.

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  • Bambams

    Sep 16, 2018 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #21

    Maybe Ash doesn’t want to sell so he simply hides behind our league position. By not spending decent money on decent players he ensures we are in a relegation fight – which in turn puts off perspective buyers. He then uses Mike Craig to release ‘No body wants to buy Newcastle United ‘ and ‘Ashley has tried his best to sell ‘

    Just a thought

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  • catchy in norway

    Sep 16, 2018 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #22

    I dont buy any of the excuses that people band about regarding transfers, Rafa sabotages himself every window. I dont think he replaces those he sells with better quality

    A few examples

    Krul free transfer, Matz sells 5 mill
    Mitrovic 22 mill, take your pick Gayle, Joselu. i could even say D Murphy was miles better than Joselu, but he keeps Joselu.
    Mbabu, for Manqillio
    Saviet for Hayden, even Colback is better than Hayden
    he loans Atsu, who is a very average Left winger, only to buy him for 8 mill, then replkace him in the same window with Murphy for a 11 million only to replace him with Kennedy in the same season.
    Grant hanley 6 mill 5,4 mil for Clark, when he had Mbemba at 9 million
    Florian tauvan is now valued at 45 mill, but i bet he will go for closer to 70 million, he just let him go.

    and thats just a few

    It seems that to Rafa, just doing a job is what he wants, god forbid if you have talent and want to show that talent.

    say anything you want about Shteve, and yes he had 80 million spent, but how many where his choices? I think they were very good players bought at very good prices: Rafa has had full control and wasted millions on types like Lazaar.

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  • jimiley

    Sep 16, 2018 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #23

    Ashley will not sell because he is making too much money.
    Why sell the whole shooting match for 300 million when he can make a minimum 75 million a season? And if we get relegated he writes off a seasons profits and spends 80 million for some numpty manager to get us promoted???
    Keep going and fill 52K seats if you want this process to continue and Ashley to stay until he dies. He might have another 30 or 40 years left.
    But count me out. I know I am missing some exciting footy. hahaha. Seen more atmosphere in a coffin. Surely some people can find better things to do than fill Ashleys pockets and sit there p…d off and silent????

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 16, 2018 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #24

    I will, McClaren was like you – clueless. There, said it. 🙂

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  • jimiley

    Sep 16, 2018 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #25

    Ed
    Thats a stupid question.
    He is a fit and proper person because he owns 100 per cent of the club. The person who should be criticized is SIR John Hall who took the silver token. How he gets away with it I will never know. Keeps a very low profile now and who can blame him

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  • catchy in norway

    Sep 16, 2018 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #26

    Bobby

    but what about all the good players that Rafa has sold annd replaced with crap. who takes the blame.

    Shteve? Ashley? Charmless? when does the finger ever point to Rafa? oooops i forgot,, he walks on water for some in here.

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  • SUTTY1978

    Sep 16, 2018 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #27

    Rafa’s biggest sabotage was insisting on getting rid of Graham Carr and insisting that he was in charge of what players we bring in.
    The squad we have now is in as bad a shape as it’s ever been. It’s just like what Dalgliesh did to us.

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 16, 2018 at 11:29 AM

    Comment #28

    Come on then Jimmy boy, tell us of one club – just one – where boycotting got rid of an owner.
    Tried this the other day but…
    Blackburn. Boycotted. Relegated twice. Same owners.
    Coventry. Relegated three times. Still got the same owners. They want to sell, but nobody wants a club that gets a few thousand through the gate.
    Blackpool. Boycotted. Dropped from PL to fourth tier like Coventry.
    Clubs where boycotting worked. 0
    Ashley would just let us rot. He wouldn’t care if we slumped, just like you wouldn’t. He’d happily see us in Division Two.
    The fans are the only decent thing left at Newcastle. They’re why Keegan came as a player and a manager. They’re why Rafa came and stayed.
    It’s not ideal, nobody’s saying it is, but we’ve more chance selling with a good crowd than an empty stadium. That’s why McKeag had it for so long.
    The difference with the Magpie Group then was SJH joined. He alone bought out McKeag and paid a pretty price for it too.
    If I believed for one second it would get rid of him I might consider it, but I don’t.

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 16, 2018 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #29

    The pressure we’re putting on SD is having an effect now. Just keep it on.

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  • jimiley

    Sep 16, 2018 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #30

    Bobby
    Well why not give it a try.??? But it might take months and months. One boycott is a waste of time and so is a demo.It may take a relegation (coming soon anyway) and a stay in the Championship.
    Filling the ground extends the agony indefinitely. Unless he is pushed he will not go voluntarily. He has been trying to sell the thing for 10 years. If you believe that then go find Elvis on the moon.

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  • jimiley

    Sep 16, 2018 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #31

    Bobby
    How do you its having an effect???
    Not buying any pork pies is causing his business hell as well.
    At least we keep buying the tops. Stupid.

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 16, 2018 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #32

    Catchy, he was promised he would get money to buy players. Thauvin wanted out you numpty. So count him out. The rest were not good enough, but sadly, promises made were not fulfilled. You sell players then replace them as a rule, but Rafa had to cancel that because he sold players and wasn’t even given the money from sales, let alone any more. So then he said he wanted players in first, in case he got stitched again, but Ashley said ‘too many on the books, sell to buy’.
    So he sold, only to find ONCE AGAIN that he was denied the money.
    Your legend McClaren bought some fine players, yet still couldn’t win a game with them you clown. He got us relegated, not Rafa. 80m wasted.
    Give Rafa that money and see the difference.

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 16, 2018 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #33

    Who keeps buying what? I don’t. Haven’t spent a penny in SJP for years. Nor will I. Can’t remember the last shirt I bought.
    And yes, it is working. He’s getting grief from his shareholders. Making his life miserable. That’ll do for starters. It’s only just started, give it chance. Ex players are coming aboard too now.
    The support at Newcastle right now is the best part of the club. Potential buyers know if we put up with this, we’re worth investing in.
    Anyway, I’ve answered you, now answer me. Tell me one single club where boycotting has, removed an owner. I’m all ears.

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  • toon22

    Sep 16, 2018 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #34

    There’s no point here in debating Rafa with Catchy
    He’s a Rafa our merchant,it’s all he has

    MA is a blight on our club

    It’s NEVER MAs fault

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  • toon22

    Sep 16, 2018 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #35

    It just makes you wonder what fan of the toon cant see the problem at the club
    It’s so obvious it’s funny

    Mike Ashley is our collossal problem

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 16, 2018 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #36

    Jim, come on, be fair. You can’t say in one sentence he doesn’t want to sell, then in another that he’s been trying to sell for ten years. Make your mind up at least.
    It won’t work. It’s been tried. You’ve stopped going, what effect has it had? None. Why would me stopping make a difference?
    The supporters who tried it at those clubs have ruined their club for years to come. Self inflicted injuries. Now look, Blackburn boycotted to get rid of Venky’s, now it’s Venky’s paying for the resurgence. Ironic eh?
    Clubs go through bad times. This is just another of those times.
    When setting on a venture, sensible people look at precedents. The precedents for boycotting are disastrous.

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  • toon22

    Sep 16, 2018 at 11:58 AM

    Comment #37

    I suppose a whole bunch of angry fans is better than none
    Protests will make the news eventually

    Mike don’t like bad PR

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  • toon22

    Sep 16, 2018 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #38

    So yeh

    The more people that turn up and make a stink the better,so long as it’s all nice and legal

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  • toon22

    Sep 16, 2018 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #39

    I wonder what’s in those accounts he’s risking going to prison to hide ?

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  • toon22

    Sep 16, 2018 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #40

    Maybe more effort needs to be put in highlighting his PR firm
    And it’s role in all of this,PR firms hate bad or LoL

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