Rafa – Having The Owner At Games And Training Cannot Be Negative


At least Rafa Benitez is consistent, and he has always said that it is positive if owner Mike Ashley attends games and if he attends some training sessions.

Ashley was a missing owner for 16 months (from a year last May) when he didn’t bother turning up for Newcastle’s games and seemed to have lost interest in the club.

Most fans would like him to be permanently missing by selling the club but that prospect does not look too likely at the moment – but you never know.

When a potential buyer really wants to own the club the deal can usually be done quickly and quietly.

Mike Ashley watching the Leicester game – yes – it was painful

Rafa has continued to be positive about having Mike Ashley around, as he said this in the Chronicle today:

“Communication is always good.” “I have had communication with Steve Nickson about the scouts but nothing new. It’s not new.”

“Normally you finish the window and then you go on holiday and after that, you talk about new targets.”

“I spoke to Lee Charnley about the team and how everybody is doing.” “It’s normal to talk like that every week.”

“If the owner is around and wants to watch the team or be with us, that’s positive.” “It can’t be negative.”

“We can concentrate on that rather than wasting energy being negative.”

“He is around – it’s positive.”

“The players now have to focus on playing games.”

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200 comments so far

  • Optimistic Panda

    Oct 18, 2018 at 4:02 PM

    Comment #1

    Depends if he’s eating all the pies meant for the players.

    0
  • Graeme

    Oct 18, 2018 at 4:04 PM

    Comment #2

    He’s taking everything else out of the club – why not the pies??

    0
  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 18, 2018 at 4:08 PM

    Comment #3

    On previous thread.
    What a huge step forward to be told you’re getting next to nowt rather than being told nothing at all.

    5
  • jimiley

    Oct 18, 2018 at 4:10 PM

    Comment #4

    Its the fat mans club and he can have all the pies if he wants them. Just as Rio Ferdinand said. Just amazed that anybody would turn up to see him eat them.

    4
  • beermonkey

    Oct 18, 2018 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #5

    Ny mag

    The cash come in stages we could by the player players we want on the same sort of deal

    Then again we must have some sissoko cash in by now or some gini cash let’s use that instead

    2
  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 18, 2018 at 4:17 PM

    Comment #6

    beer,
    We’ve still got instalment 9 of 35 to look forward to of the Andy Carroll money.

    4
  • Online Guy

    Oct 18, 2018 at 4:18 PM

    Comment #7

    Jib, yes it was McMillan ..thanks for that.

    Lochinvar, thanks for the link Sir , good read.

    2
  • Online Guy

    Oct 18, 2018 at 4:19 PM

    Comment #8

    No News from Shirebrook ..the lasses know nowt lads.

    4
  • Genjikai

    Oct 18, 2018 at 4:19 PM

    Comment #9

    Jib from a few post back. Well said about catchy mate spot on assessment, must give credit where it is due. The frustration he causes you is the frustration i get when you defend ashley. Each to their own though.
    Little olive branch being handed over by me ill draw a line in my accustions of you working for ashley (ill leave that to toon22)., and take it as your just putting across an alternative view.

    6
  • RobLeenio

    Oct 18, 2018 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #10

    Jail, you really are a d!ck at times…

    2
  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 18, 2018 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #11

    From http://www.nufc.com
    “But Llambias did pour cold water on suggestions that Newcastle United owner Ashley was backing any prospective bids, insisting: “We don’t need his money.”

    He added: It’s got nothing to do with Mike Ashley. Morton’s not a very expensive club to buy, is it? I’ve no idea what the price would be, but it’s not a huge investment.”

    Which coming from him means is got everything to do with Mike Ashley but will be in Llambias’ name and therefore negating any conflict of interest. Arghhhhh
    🙁

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  • bettyswallocks

    Oct 18, 2018 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #12

    I think that if there were any serious buyers in the pipeline then Rafa would have got wind of it and signed a new contract by now. That way he either gets to stay and work for the new owners or if they decide not to keep him on then he gets a good pay off. That’s what I would do anyway.

    2
  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 18, 2018 at 4:27 PM

    Comment #13

    RobLeenio,
    I thought the same about you for coming out with a ridiculous post like that.

    5
  • Online Guy

    Oct 18, 2018 at 4:30 PM

    Comment #14

    Selling Andy Carroll in the January I think it was , was Gambling with our prem Status .

    Ashley sells our top striker and we were in a perilous position .

    You see its like this ….Ashley knows that whatever division we are in 50 thousand fans will turn up regardless .

    Tv money might go down but he knows how to get it back . And a promotion season from what is effectively the second division promotes positivity and 50 thousand fans blindly going along with it.

    Ashley does not care if we yo-yo . He’s Dispassionate .

    He has no heart and no mind when it comes to feeling it like we do.

    13
  • Jib

    Oct 18, 2018 at 4:31 PM

    Comment #15

    Jail
    You know nowt
    Llmbias and Ashley had a major fallout
    2013/2014

    3
  • NY Mag

    Oct 18, 2018 at 4:38 PM

    Comment #16

    Beermonkey,

    You’re right, we could – but we won’t
    That’s the restrictive business policy employed by the club
    It only works if you are cash rich – which we aren’t

    1
  • RobLeenio

    Oct 18, 2018 at 4:38 PM

    Comment #17

    Right, nice and slow so Jail for Ashley can wrap his meagre intellect around it.

    In the past, Rafa has been kept in the dark about funds available for transfers, which means that he’s spent money on the likes of Jacob Murphy expecting more money to be available. It wasn’t and we were left with an imbalanced squad with less cover than we needed elsewhere.

    Last Summer, he had no idea of his transfer budget so couldn’t plan his strategy, we ended up with Rondon coming in late and unfit.

    This Winter, he knows what the budget is in advance. Even if it’s only £10M, he’ll be able to make a decision early on how it’s spent, whether one 1st team player on a permanent transfer or maybe 3 loan fees to cover different positions.

    The money may be way less than we could hope for, but we don’t know that yet. What we have been told is that whatever he receives, he knows about it already. That is a better position than in previous windows when he’s had no money and hasn’t known about it until well after the window has opened.

    How is that hard to understand?

    3
  • beermonkey

    Oct 18, 2018 at 4:43 PM

    Comment #18

    Jib

    Wasn’t lambias Ashleys Man at rangers till 2015

    5
  • Jib

    Oct 18, 2018 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #19

    He was kicked off the board at Rangers in March
    2015 but he’s already parted ways with Ashley.
    Big Mike didn’t like his friendship with fellow director
    the Easedale brothers and Rae

    1
  • Jib

    Oct 18, 2018 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #20

    directors even

    1
  • Jib

    Oct 18, 2018 at 4:52 PM

    Comment #21

    he’d even

    1
  • RobLeenio

    Oct 18, 2018 at 4:58 PM

    Comment #22

    The reason Ashley likes the money to come in on the drip is so it’s easier to hide. Hands up who knows without looking it up how much we should have been paid for Sissoko by now and how much we are still owed?

    Yep, that’s what I thought, and that’s Ashley’s intention – if we can;t keep track of the Sissoko money which was well publicised, how about the Carroll cash, Wijnaldum, Townsend or whoever?

    6
  • Jail for Ashley

    Oct 18, 2018 at 5:08 PM

    Comment #23

    RobLeenio,
    I’ve wrapped my meagre intelligence around it and understood it perfectly well. To suggest that being told you’re getting next to nowt rather than nothing at all is a big step forward is a footin insult.

    10
  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Oct 18, 2018 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #24

    2 full months before January, the amount of money is probably going to depend on what happens in those 2 months.

    This proposal to get the “rich” clubs to be levied some kind of tax to help out the poor clubs could be interesting if it gets off the ground.

    Will we be in the rich bracket or the poor bracket?

    0
  • lesh

    Oct 18, 2018 at 5:27 PM

    Comment #25

    Online Guy

    Assuming Ashley’s office called you at 3, have you anything to report?

    Or, as your call was expected call was to come from Ashley’s office, can we take it that it didn’t happen and like many before you, you were lied to?

    0
  • lesh

    Oct 18, 2018 at 5:29 PM

    Comment #26

    Essex Geordie Bill

    Even the club’s auditors couldn’t say whether we’ll be rich or poor. They’ll have to wait for Ashley’s instructions!

    2
  • hibbit

    Oct 18, 2018 at 5:30 PM

    Comment #27

    EGB
    Must be classed as “rich” as the accounts show we are in the BLACK ,

    1
  • lochinvar

    Oct 18, 2018 at 5:30 PM

    Comment #28

    Ashley is just plain rancid.
    SJP is just a billboard to him. He doesn’t come to watch the match he just comes to check on his free advertising.
    Why does Monty Burns from The Simpsons spring to mind.

    Last night I heard Mikey singing this song
    Ooh me chirpy chirpy cheap cheap
    Woke up this morning and the money was gone
    Ooh me chirpy chirpy cheap cheap
    Chirpy chirpy cheap cheap twerp.

    4
  • lochinvar

    Oct 18, 2018 at 5:31 PM

    Comment #29

    EssexGB
    Knowing our luck we’ll be Hinge and Bracket

    1
  • beermonkey

    Oct 18, 2018 at 5:32 PM

    Comment #30

    Essex

    You got an article on that tax thing I noticed come across it
    I am sure they will find a way round it like they have with ffp rules if you take city’s big sponsorship deals away there income would be dire compared to the of Man utd and Liverpool who rake in so much because oof there brand

    I am not opposed to trying level out the playing field but I don’t think you would see other countries try and hamper the likes of bayern barca Madrid juve

    0
  • hibbit

    Oct 18, 2018 at 5:36 PM

    Comment #31

    lesh
    Grant Thornton couldn’t tell you what day of the week it was without a consultation with the owner there just so far up his backside at the moment,
    as a company there very very deep in the brown stuff !!!!!

    1
  • Lindisfarne

    Oct 18, 2018 at 5:42 PM

    Comment #32

    I reckon the Rolando Aarons Sindicate could buy Greenock Morten

    1
  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Oct 18, 2018 at 5:44 PM

    Comment #33

    beermonkey
    Naah no article it was just a paragraph in the football news on BBC text.

    0
  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Oct 18, 2018 at 5:48 PM

    Comment #34

    Lindisfarne
    Bloody good idea, we could get them playing in BW stripes and rename the team, any ideas on the name?

    I’d suggest Toon United!

    2
  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Oct 18, 2018 at 5:50 PM

    Comment #35

    We could bus the 52000+ supporters there on match days, it’ll be just like the old Dunston Social Club outings.

    4
  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Oct 18, 2018 at 5:52 PM

    Comment #36

    It would only be around 1050 buses.

    2
  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Oct 18, 2018 at 5:58 PM

    Comment #37

    Today is anti slavery day,

    “So free the Shirebrooke oppressed!”

    2
  • beermonkey

    Oct 18, 2018 at 5:59 PM

    Comment #38

    Essex
    Ta I am sure some journo will be putting together an article

    1
  • ToonLegend

    Oct 18, 2018 at 6:35 PM

    Comment #39

    Rafa not having funds means the club will go down and Rafa will leave.

    3
  • ToonLegend

    Oct 18, 2018 at 6:36 PM

    Comment #40

    Oh well it could be worse.

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