Another Ashley Gamble On Newcastle Could Lead To This Disaster Scenario


We read in the Chronicle that Rafa Benitez is becoming more and more frustrated with the Newcastle hierarchy.

There was news in the Chronicle today that Benitez expected back in late November that this January transfer window would be much like the previous two – and he would get no help from Ashley.

We are in a similar position as we were last season, but there are some real differences too.

Rafa is not as confident with his squad as he was a year ago when he said we would do better in the second half of last season – which we did and even finished in 10th place.

His is not saying those things at the moment – but that it will take a miracle for Newcastle to avoid relegation this term.

Rafa has done his best to alert Mike Ashley to the dangers Newcastle face in the final five months of the season.

Rafa Benitez – at Watford this season

But we have heard nothing from Ashley and 10 days of the window are already over.

Benitez has refused to sign a new deal at Newcastle unless the way transfers are done at the club is changed radically,  and the manager also has much more say on how the transfer money is spent.

He also wants more money to spend so he can bring in a better class of player and wants to know the level of Mike Ashley’s ambitions for the club.

We can tell Rafa what they are right now – it’s to spend as little money as he can in keeping Newcastle as a Premier League club.

Rafa has been at the club now for coming up to three years and he will know that if Ashley doesn’t sell things are not going to improve any time soon.

And even if Rafa keeps Newcastle s a Premier league club this season, he will surely look for a more ambitious club than Newcastle are under Ashley.

Former Premier League Champions Leicester City are one of those clubs reported to be interested in signing Rafa in the summer.

The only hope for us seems to be that Rafa can somehow have Newcastle survive relegation in the next several months and a new owner emerges before the summer.

It will take those two things to happen to prevent the disaster scenario at Newcastle.

That’s Rafa leaving the club and Newcastle relegated for the third time from the Premier League under Ashley.

The more we don’t strengthen this month the more likely that disaster scenario is of becoming real.

Comments welcome.


266 comments so far

  • Tsunki

    Jan 10, 2019 at 2:26 PM

    Comment #1

    Ha ha like the photo – you wouldn’t think the manager would have to indicate “to feet” to premier League players would you? Unless he’s asking what happened to his cool box.

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  • Danufc9

    Jan 10, 2019 at 2:27 PM

    Comment #2

    If NUFC are not sold come end of Jan, mass boycott of games!

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Jan 10, 2019 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #3

    This season seems like the ultimate gamble by Ashley !!!

    He is banking on Rafa and the players to be motivated enough to get us over the line……

    A few defeats by the top 6 in a row could put us in serious trouble confidence wise !

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  • Tsunki

    Jan 10, 2019 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #4

    No Miguel – ees no’ possible to sign a new contrac’ while catchy is knocking about “

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  • Tsunki

    Jan 10, 2019 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #5

    I think it’s fairly accepted that Ashley is walking backwards out of the building dousing everything with paraffin as he goes, having already put the cutlery and computers in his car.

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  • AncientC

    Jan 10, 2019 at 2:32 PM

    Comment #6

    It seems almost insulting to Chelsea to ask them to accept the return Kenedy—and to get value for money—asking for a pick of one of their players on the same loan fee. “Here, you can have this one back, btw, we will take that other one over there on the middle shelf.”

    And how would you go about attempting this swap deal for Kenedy? Telling Kenedy first would be the appropriate thing to do, it would risk losing Kenedy all together, getting nothing in return, and a situation where Chelsea no longer wish to do loan business with Newcastle.

    I think a more serious question that the club should be asking is; if Kenedy becomes available for a knock-down fee, should the club sign him permanently. And wouldn’t signing Kenedy open up another loan slot thereby leaving the door open to go back to Chelsea.

    It would all depend on what kind of belief Benitez has in Kenedy. We know Kenedy can be better than his most recent performances, and in a twisted way, Kenedy being out of form is the only imaginable way we could get a permanent deal for him.

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  • Bianconeri

    Jan 10, 2019 at 2:36 PM

    Comment #7

    I don’t think we will go down.
    Why
    Because Ashlie offered to take the players on holiday if they kept us up.
    🙂
    Seriously though something needs to give,and quickly

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  • Toonces

    Jan 10, 2019 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #8

    It would be insulting unless Chelsea had some knowledge of issues Kenedy might be dealing with off the pitch as he has been off song since day one. But as it is right now – Kenedy doesn’t deserve a place on the bench let alone a start on his recent performances. But you’re right, we know he can be better than he has shown this season. Do we keep waiting for him to come good while he costs us on the pitch? Basically the club could end his loan outright and look elsewhere in the PL for a loan player. Can a loan deal be rescinded unilaterally?

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Jan 10, 2019 at 2:42 PM

    Comment #9

    For me it’s not a boycott – it’s support the team and Rafa to keep us up
    It’s boycott every Spuds Direct shop in the Newcastle area
    Next year if they go down Rafa has gone – don’t buy a season ticket don’t renew

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  • Dubs Left Glove

    Jan 10, 2019 at 2:42 PM

    Comment #10

    I recall someone saying that Kenyon said he would still be interested if we were relegated. You couldn’t put it past Ashley that he delays a potential takeover (if there is one) until 1st Feb just so Rafa can’t get any players in this window.

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  • Munster Mag

    Jan 10, 2019 at 2:46 PM

    Comment #11

    Jail, the most recent lie was that u said I was annoyed with rafa re Liverpool. Utter tosh. As usual with you :).

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  • Munster Mag

    Jan 10, 2019 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #14

    And to answer your other question, I’m not trying to get people against rafa or whatever. I want him here, especially now, funded. This is another thing you don’t repeat, strangely. What I have said from the start is that at times he is too cautious and I have asked for a bit more attack against the right teams. And a blog that can highlight good and the occasional bad from him, not a carte blanched for any manager. I’ve explained this many times but there are goons here like you who can’t get your heads around thus because you have set it up that critiquing rafa means loving the fat man.

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Jan 10, 2019 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #15

    To be honest what is the point in us staying up ? We don’t deserve to be in the premiership under Ashley we don’t compete and we are never striving to get better!

    Rafa keeps us up then walks meaning Ashley keeps the TV money and we get another Pardew manager in until it blows up and we go down!

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  • dig-n-dig22

    Jan 10, 2019 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #17

    C Dog 72 earlier thread
    Forgive me for awarding you intelligence, I should have hit the /Sarc

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 10, 2019 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #18

    For those who are involved in any protest movement here, or know those who are, can I float an idea and see what the general consensus is. There’s a little preamble so bear with me on this.

    Let’s assume that Ashley sells the club and we have a new owner, whether that’s the result of fans protesting or some crazy rich guy offering him £1 billion for the club. It’s irrelevant for this argument.

    The new guy may be terrible. He may Ashley look good. We’ve seen examples throughout the football league where this has happened. Clubs being run into administration, clubs not being able to pay staff and being docked points, plummeting down the leagues and almost fading away.

    Would there be any benefit in engaging with other clubs with poor owners, and those with good owners who may be sympathetic to the cause, to organise national protests. A day where there is mass protest nationwide to highlight the problem that clubs face when owners don’t treat fans as the main people at the club.

    It’s not against continuing our own protests but an additional suggestion. Just a thought.

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  • Munster Mag

    Jan 10, 2019 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #19

    Dubs I’d take relegation if rafa stays and gets the right players, assuming Ashley goes and we get a normal owner in. I think rafa will go though because he can’t implement his blueprint without counter attacking pace and a hugely limited buying /loan pool

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 10, 2019 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #20

    Munster

    I know it’s all hypothetical but I’d take relegation to get rid of ashley even if we stayed down there for a few years. For me football goes on regardless of what league we were in. I’d rather have pride in how the club operate that lack that pride and be in the top flight.

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  • geordiemark

    Jan 10, 2019 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #21

    when January has been and gone we say hello to February then we will all know what the score is with the so called takeover and players being brought in after that I think we should all trigger world war 3 on Ashley and his wee minions

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  • geordiemark

    Jan 10, 2019 at 3:03 PM

    Comment #22

    Munster Mag

    I really don’t know how rafa has put up with this moron for 6 months never mind nearly 3 years

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  • Dondatta13

    Jan 10, 2019 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #23

    From previous thread… Ref, Perez interview.

    bettyswallocks “Dondatta…….. I was referring to an-inadequate footballer trying to be some sort of an authority on why the team are performing poorly”.

    With all due respect, look at what you are saying there. On a football blog, where we, on a daily basis debate the rights and wrongs of NUFC and the poorly performing club/team.

    If we can openly discuss and put our 2 pence worth forward, why on earth can’t someone who actually plays for the aforementioned club? Surely he has as much right as us?

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  • OneAlanShearer

    Jan 10, 2019 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #24

    TS – so agree. Ashley is s soul sucking black hole of an owner. He has to go regardless of any other factors

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  • RobLeenio

    Jan 10, 2019 at 3:07 PM

    Comment #25

    Would I take relegation to get rid of Mike Ashley? Yes, absolutely.

    Would Mike Ashley be guaranteed to go if we were relegated? No, absolutely not.

    Therefore, I’ll be hoping we’re not relegated.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 10, 2019 at 3:08 PM

    Comment #26

    Dodatta

    Agree with you there. Just because somebody isn’t a top player doesn’t mean they can’t comment on football, they may be very knowledgeable but unable to put that into practice. I think most here know more about football than they can actually do, hence why we aren’t professional players.

    Plus Perez is in the squad, he sees it day in day out, he will be privy to all the issues and probably have a good understanding of what is working.

    For us, we just speculate as we don’t know the ins and outs, we can criticise the manager for not picking somebody but we don’t know the exact reasons why. It doesn’t mean we shouldn’t talk about things, you’re right.

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  • carltoon

    Jan 10, 2019 at 3:08 PM

    Comment #27

    Leazes Flags have been told their radio interview has been cancelled.

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  • carltoon

    Jan 10, 2019 at 3:08 PM

    Comment #28

    I wonder why?

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 10, 2019 at 3:09 PM

    Comment #29

    Rob

    I’d never wish relegation unless it guaranteed he’d go, as you say, the two aren’t directly connected. I’d much rather we stayed up, it was just if those were the two options on the table.

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  • geordiemark

    Jan 10, 2019 at 3:10 PM

    Comment #30

    carltoon

    next Ashley will have his SS guards around st james park or does he already have them

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  • carltoon

    Jan 10, 2019 at 3:11 PM

    Comment #31

    What a disgrace this club is.

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  • carltoon

    Jan 10, 2019 at 3:13 PM

    Comment #32

    Yes Geordimark the the jackboots will be out no doubt about that.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Jan 10, 2019 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #33

    Geordie Mark

    I don’t understand why anyone bothers with the local media, it’s just rubbish. They need the access to players/the club to attract readers but they then don’t report on issues people are interested in.

    Not sure how anyone can read this and find it entertaining.

    Alternative media, through youtube and blogs like this are the future. Not just in sport but in everything.

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  • hibbit

    Jan 10, 2019 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #34

    RobLeenio @25

    your spot on with that 😉

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  • Dondatta13

    Jan 10, 2019 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #35

    Transfer Sage, 100%.

    On Perez, like many is having a bad season IMHO. However, at the back end of last season he seemed to pull his socks up and chip in with a few vital goals that helped us move up the table.

    We may require the same performances to keep us up this season. Non of us here can directly affect the fate of NUFC this season but I know someone who can. Perez 😉

    That said, I don’t agree with his chosen goal celebration…

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  • geordiemark

    Jan 10, 2019 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #36

    Transfer Sage

    your spot on there

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  • dig-n-dig22

    Jan 10, 2019 at 3:20 PM

    Comment #37

    Hibbit 12

    Ranieri could sell Mitro for £ 50 Mill and buy Almiron for about £ 20Mill

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  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Jan 10, 2019 at 3:20 PM

    Comment #38

    Almiron, (should we actually sign him) won’t come with a guarantee, no players do, no matter what league they come from.

    Torres should have been a nailed on hit for Chelsea, especially at 50m but did nowt.

    Almiron would be a good gamble imo.

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  • bettyswallocks

    Jan 10, 2019 at 3:21 PM

    Comment #39

    Dondatta………. The difference being that this is a public blog for the public to express their views and he is commenting in the press. He just annoys me that’s all as he hasn’t really progressed as a player so his time might be better spent improving his footballing skills than trying to put the team to rights.

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  • Mag52

    Jan 10, 2019 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #40

    AO.

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