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If Rafa Stays – This Is The First Player He Will Want Signed


Salomon Rondon is on loan at Newcastle this season, and when he returns to West Brom, he will have just one year left on his contract.

There was news that Newcastle tried to extend his loan deal through next season while they were negotiating Jacob Murphy’s loan last month.

But that was on the final day of the window, and there was not enough time to do that.

Why did they wait until the last minute?

But it suggests Rafa wants Rondon at the club long term as well as wanting and getting Almiron permanently.

The manager wants Salomon Rondon permanently at Newcastle

Mike Ashley thought Rondon too old at 29 to pay out the £16.5M fee West Brom wanted for their player, so we got him on loan.

But we had to send Dwight Gayle in the other direction – something Rafa didn’t want to do.

The manager has refused to say much about what’s going on and had this to say about Rondon’s situation.

“Everybody can see he is doing well. It is too early to talk about that.”

If Rafa stays, Rondon is the first player he will want Ashley to sign – either permanently or on loan.

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93 comments so far

  • geordietom

    Feb 11, 2019 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #1

    if Rafa does stay i hope he does sign Rondon plus get a mobile centre forward …

    get shot of Hoselu asap…

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  • kc2012

    Feb 11, 2019 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #2

    Signing Rondon for next season if we stay up is a must but I think there’ll be a lot of clubs looking at him, he’s a managers dream of a striker.

    On Tonight’s game, I think Rafa might save Almiron until the 2nd half to give him time to see the way we’re playing but who knows. I think the Wolves lads will be out to try and rough him up so hopefully he can deal with it and express himself. Either way he’s going to take time to adapt and I wish him the best of luck, he looks a cracking player.

    Some of his highlights for Lanus are brilliant and that league is very rough so I’m sure he’ll quickly get used to the physicality of the Premier league.

    We were robbed against this Wolves team last time (they seem to get away with everything) so hopefully the lads can get some revenge tonight.

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  • RobLeenio

    Feb 11, 2019 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #4

    I understand the club were talking to West Brom about Rondon and a permanent deal during the January window, but that it was too complicated to get over the line. I can understand that, it would require agreement on the valuation of at least two players (Gondon and Gayle, maybe Murphy also), agreement on a payment schedule, promotion and relegation clauses and then the mundane details like agents’ fees, player wages and other things.

    Too complicated to get over the line in the last 48 hours of the window, fair enough.

    That said, surely the clubs could have started talking about it at the start of the window or even have an ongoing dialogue around it since September? Surely it’s crossed the minds of someone at each club?

    Staggering levels of ineptitude.

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  • Genjikai

    Feb 11, 2019 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #5

    Almiron no pressure bud, just do your thing man.
    Viva la Rafalution.
    HWTL.
    Howare the toon!
    Toon toon toon!
    We are the Geordies!

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  • simon376

    Feb 11, 2019 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #6

    I’m sure unless it has to be part of the original agreement, we can sign Rondon anytime up to the end of the season, didn’t we do that last year with the Spanish lad we had on loan and I’m sure done elsewhere as well

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  • Jib

    Feb 11, 2019 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #7

    Are NUFC inept
    or
    Brilliant for chasing down Rafa’s long term
    Paraguayan target after an 18 month epic
    ?
    Make your fcuking mind up

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  • G

    Feb 11, 2019 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #8

    “Staggering levels of ineptitude.”

    Fair comment, but let’s be honest here, it’s not unexpected at this club any more. Gone are the days of signings out of the blue. I remember nearly crashing my car in the 90’s on a motorway, as everybody knew Alan Shearer was about to sign for Manyoo, then the radio announcer mentioned he had signed for us, which caught me well and truly by surprise. How I long for days like that. (The announcement obviously, not my sudden inability to drive due to hysterical screams of joy)

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  • Genjikai

    Feb 11, 2019 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #9

    Simon i believe it was mentioned at the time that the loan deal doesnt have a buy agreement in it.
    WBA have extend his contract by a year so hes got one year to run after this loan deal is over.

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  • Genjikai

    Feb 11, 2019 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #11

    Interesting read hibbit.

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  • simon376

    Feb 11, 2019 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #12

    Genjikai

    Right, wasn’t sure if could be done with any loan deal as player was already on the clubs books or if something had to be in place

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  • Genjikai

    Feb 11, 2019 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #13

    Tbh simon i dont no am just going off that merino had a buy clause after a certain amount of games i think. Dubz had one also.
    Think its been mentioned that the new lb has a buyout if we are interested.

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  • RobLeenio

    Feb 11, 2019 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #14

    Jib can it not be both depending on the deal?

    The signing of Almiron could not be completed sooner due to the delay in the Atlanta purchase of Pity Martinez but the Rondon deal could and should have been completed sooner when it became clear there was an option to do it.

    It’s the inconsistency which drives you mad

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  • G

    Feb 11, 2019 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #15

    simon, I believe we can sign him at any point during his loan, however, the formal transfer or registration does not change until the window is open. We just don’t have any pre-aranged agreements with WBA over this. I expect they would not let us sign him now unless we offer crazy money anyway, as technically the more games he gets for us, the more likely other clubs will enter for him nearer the Summer months.

    1
  • Jib

    Feb 11, 2019 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #16

    Hibbit
    I find Mark Douglas’ headline
    quite revealing
    “Points, a public address from Mike Ashley and new approach required”
    reading between the lines I think it’s the journo’s frustration that is demonstrated
    here.

    I think they know something is rumbling on in the background and the paucity
    of information is doing their heads in.

    Mash Holdings , the NUFC purchase vehicle , was incorporated in
    Feb 2007 yet the press hadn’t a whisper until that Spring , June

    There were a lot more in the loop then , yet it was kept under wraps
    for ages.

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  • simon376

    Feb 11, 2019 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #17

    G
    Yeah that’s the problem, better he plays higher the price and more interest, just wish we could have ageeed a fee or if we had, paid it

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  • RobLeenio

    Feb 11, 2019 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #18

    The club will have an idea of what they want to pay for Rondon and what they want to sell Gayle for. If West Brom move the goalposts on Rondon, we can be difficult over Gayle. It would be sensible to sort out a deal which suits everyone equally.

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  • jayphoto

    Feb 11, 2019 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #19

    Got to think that if West Brom fail to get promoted (and I think they might just miss out) then swapping Gayle for Rondon might become a priority for them as he’s lethal at that level as shown again this year!
    Personally, I can’t see Rondon being a Newcastle player next season… for the 16m release clause he’ll cost in the summer and for how big a player he’s showing he is this season I think we’ll get out bid. Honestly if I was Spurs i’d be straight in for him and i’d bet he gets some big money interest from China and the middle east…

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  • RobLeenio

    Feb 11, 2019 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #20

    I’m looking forward to the match tonight. I imagine our London-based support and our travelling Mags will raise the roof and create a great atmosphere. Rafa has some interesting new tactical options at his disposal, based around the new additions to the squad and this will make Watford’s tactical choices difficult for them.

    It should be a good battle

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  • NY Mag

    Feb 11, 2019 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #21

    Jib,

    Cmon you’re better than that….you know fine well that MASH holdings was / is not the NUFC purchase vehicle.
    St James Holdings (incorporated 21st May 2007) has always been the holding company for the club.

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  • jayphoto

    Feb 11, 2019 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #22

    Going to the game tonight! Should be decent, Wolves play some good stuff! Got a few mates who are Wolves fans and they reckon Newcastles set up is exactly the type of side they really struggle against as they like to counter and play expansively and struggle against teams with solid rigid set ups so it should tactically be an interesting one! Hopefully see a bit of Almiron at some point too! Guessing we’ll stick with the 3-4-2-1 (would hope so anyway), interested to see if Barecca starts as hes had a full week of training and offers alot more than Ritchie at left wing back and would allow for Ritchie to play further up.
    First time really this season Rafas had some big selection headaches as really we’ve 18 players that all probably have a decent shout at being in the first 11….

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  • Mister Tuff

    Feb 11, 2019 at 12:25 PM

    Comment #23

    Watford!!!!!!!!!????????????????????????? Eh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????.

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  • Jib

    Feb 11, 2019 at 12:31 PM

    Comment #24

    NY
    My bad
    Yet another victim of
    MA’s company equivalent of the Ali shuffle.

    1
  • RobLeenio

    Feb 11, 2019 at 12:32 PM

    Comment #25

    Oops, Wolves not Watford

    😳

    0
  • Jib

    Feb 11, 2019 at 12:33 PM

    Comment #26

    They both begin wiv a Woubleyou

    3
  • Genjikai

    Feb 11, 2019 at 12:34 PM

    Comment #27

    Wolves seem to have it right up to now like.
    Looking to expand the stadium.
    They want to become a 50k seater. ( putting them on par with us)
    They want to invest in the youth setup.
    And the local community.
    It was mentioned earlier the toon is in a position were it is going to be totally left behind this time. Weve stagnated. Ashley has got us at saturation point. (Even though we should be loaded on an upward trend.)
    Soon our big stadium will just be common place to all the “lower” teams.
    If ashley doesnt act now or sell Newcastle is just going to settle into medicorasy for ever.
    Tubbs just run our football club properly man.

    2
  • NY Mag

    Feb 11, 2019 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #28

    Jib,

    Can’t argue there…..he is very good at the Ali shuffle 😀

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  • Genjikai

    Feb 11, 2019 at 12:38 PM

    Comment #29

    Bit of a lift for the lads. The new lads take the pressure ( workload) off our boys.
    Equal shares in responsibility’s.
    Its not about being replaced everyone is here to do a job, people should be fresher. Less scare of an injury crisis less anxiety for the lads.
    Hopefully a bit more creativity uptop. Get more to rondon more goals. Saftey in sights.

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  • Genjikai

    Feb 11, 2019 at 12:45 PM

    Comment #30

    Jay youve raised some interesting points there like.
    If WBA dont get promoted a straight swap between the two would suit both parties in my opinion. I like gayle and as a sub ,3rd striker is not too shabby. But maybe muto is gayles replacement.
    Also hopefully the neets game is an interesting one like you say but in favour of the toon.
    Id take a sit back soak up the pressure 1 nil counter attacking win the night like

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  • Mister Tuff

    Feb 11, 2019 at 12:48 PM

    Comment #31

    Jib/Jane – please stop with the Companies House stuff – you have previously shown your complete misunderstanding of it – so much so you are the blogs Companies House Goon.

    You are not the blog anchor you profess to be.
    Although if that word began with a wubbleyou it would be you.

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  • Genjikai

    Feb 11, 2019 at 12:50 PM

    Comment #32

    Almiron slipping past a eboly elbow after a sublime bit of skill , left foot top corner HWTL

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  • jayphoto

    Feb 11, 2019 at 1:01 PM

    Comment #33

    Genjikai – The thing that would worry me about Rondon is hes made a bit of a career out of choosing money over football! He went out to Russia despite having the option to sign for Spurs because it was more £££ when he was at Malaga and later turned down moving to Liverpool and staying in Russia moving to zenit again because it was more £££
    Honestly think if he gets an offer from China or the like he’ll be off… and Id be shocked if after this season theres not a few in for him!

    1
  • Genjikai

    Feb 11, 2019 at 1:05 PM

    Comment #34

    Should of signed him in the summer. If he keeps us up for 2 seasons 16 mill is a snip and hes done a job.

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  • jayphoto

    Feb 11, 2019 at 1:08 PM

    Comment #35

    Almiron tonight will be interesting… no idea how fit he is but if hes close hes a long way ahead of Perez and Atsu in terms of ability and both of them have ran themselves into the ground for the cause the last 4 weeks!
    Similarly, Diame and Ki back, it’ll be interesting to see who starts in midfield…neither longstaff nor Hayden deserves to lose out but then coldly and clinically speaking, you’d probably say Ki and Diame are slightly ahead of the 2 young lads.. personally i’d love to see Longstaff and Diame tonight!
    Left back will be interesting… is Dummett back? Ritchie has worked his socks off but never looked particularly comfortable there whereas Beracca is essentially a Yedlin clone, designed perfectly for a wing back role… but in a shape thats been so successful, 3-4-2-1 where exactly does Ritchie fit in?
    Another interesting one is Kenedy…. with Diame, Ki, Muto, Almiron, Possibly Dummett being added to the squad from last week, does Kenedy even make the bench?

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  • Bobbybee

    Feb 11, 2019 at 1:08 PM

    Comment #36

    I don’t think Miggy will have any trouble adapting to the PL. Look how many Championship players do it when promoted and he’s well better than that.
    He survived the Argentinian League intact which physicality wise, is every bit a tough – and probably rougher.
    And let’s not think the MLS is that bad. It’s improved massively in a very short time and we can expect a lot more players to take the sane route Miggy has in the future.
    Never let size be an issue. He has a wiry strength and from I’ve seen, an ability to ride a tackle and shrug off players trying to hold him back. And if they really insist on bringing him down in full flight, he takes a mean free kick.
    Although I expect him to start on the bench, I wouldn’t be in the slightest bit surprised if he started, listening to what Rafa’s been saying.
    After all, he bought him to keep us up. The sooner he starts the better. He certainly thinks he’s got what it takes. I’d say, go for it

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  • Genjikai

    Feb 11, 2019 at 1:10 PM

    Comment #37

    I think a real boost to the team would be the signing of Rafa.
    If only we had a proper sports owner. He claims he loves sports.
    Imagine if that Leicester owner had of rocked up on our shores. My god he would of loved beyond belief.
    Imagine if he had of won the league for the toon instead.
    Na better off with the devil we know eh?

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  • Genjikai

    Feb 11, 2019 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #38

    Aye jay/bobby,
    From reading Rafas comments he says miggy is ready to go.
    So will be interesting to see the team the night.
    Im actually really excited.
    HWTL man.

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  • jayphoto

    Feb 11, 2019 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #39

    @bobbybee – the Argentinian league is closer to MMA than football… And the MLS is more athletic than the premier league, I think he’ll adapt very quick! Hes absolutely terrorized otamendi and co for Paraguay too! My only fear for Almiron is the speed he makes decisions at… the MLS is technically and tactically quite poor, I think thats probably his weakness, it’s probably why they weren’t really open to playing in Italy because it would have been a bigger problem there, think we might see a few occasions where he chooses the wrong pass or to run or shoot etc as he’ll get less time on the ball than he’s used to!
    Kids got the quickest acceleration from a standing position ive ever seen though… hes not actually super quick in a straight race but his speed at losing a man and getting space is unreal

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  • Genjikai

    Feb 11, 2019 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #40

    I know there is still alot of work to do around the squad.
    Buts its nice have cover for positions. Not having to play players out of position.
    Beracca and yeds bombing the wings, is such an exciting prospect like. Only seen a glimpse but a reckon he looks rapid mate. A hope so. Al hold me hands up only seen him play in that short 10 min spell or so he had.
    Again with miggy never saw him play only a couple clips, hope both rock it for us.

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