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FT: Newcastle 0 Man City 2 – Crisis On Tyneside



Make no mistake about it, Newcastle are at their lowest point of the season after being beaten 2-0 at home to Manchester City tonight. After a keenly fought first half City emerged worthy winners over a demoralized Newcastle side tonight.

And this is only the second time this season Manchester City have been able to win away from home. But in the end they were comfortable winners against a Newcastle side, who looked just far too mechanical. Couple that with our last home game, when Derby County were bottom of the league and had one away point and one away goal before playing Newcastle.

Derby tripled their away goals and doubled their away points at the expense of the Magpies. It’s hard to know how much worse things can get. By the way, we have a fairly strong squad of players, at least on paper.

Manchester had some flair in their side and that basically was the difference in the teams tonight. It’s really hard to know what happens next for Newcastle. The players look really short on confidence and now in their last 12 games they have won 2 and drawn 3 for a total of just 9 points, which is certainly relegation form. Newcastle have certainly lost the plot this season and to talk about European qualification this season now seems like a bad joke.

Until Manchester City went ahead through Elano on 38 minutes it was a fairly easy game but Newcastle did have chances in the first half and they never looked like scoring to be truthful. Oba Martins in particular didn’t look good and it was no surprise when he was withdrawn for Owen at half time.

Michael played well in the second half, especially with his link up play but even Michael was not able to score fr Newcastle. Once the second goal went in, scored by Gelson Fernandes after 76 minutes (after being on the field for just 40 seconds), the game was well and truly over for the Tyneside club.

There was little booing from the Newcastle fans, who have been taught to support their team, through thick and thin. But this is just not good enough and we feel there will be enormous pressure not just on Sam Allardyce, but also on Chris Mort, our chairman to turn this thing around.

Any more of this and we’ll be dragged into a relegation tussle.

Comments very welcome – but please keep your language decent – many thanks.

40 comments so far

  • Callum

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:11 PM

    Comment #1

    Sack him now so we have a chance vs Stoke…

  • Penalty-Spot

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:12 PM

    Comment #2

    I dunno. Like you said a real low. It’s hard to know what should be done. Having been a BSA fan and not listened to the ‘boo boys’ I feel doubly gutted.

    Will Mort back him and to what point? They’re the main questions on my mind. Who is there that could do a better job, at what cost and disruption?

    Thrashing Stoke might help 🙂

  • Mson

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:25 PM

    Comment #3

    Bring in José Mourinho before we miss him too as we did with sven if he wants to come that is…

    a team cant be better then the manager is and sam have never won anything ever

  • Zx

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:26 PM

    Comment #4

    Will thrashing Stoke solve our problems? Even if we win big, I can’t expect us to win MU and yet a probable defeat is on the cards. Its difficult to be optimistic after such a bad run of form. Supporters of BSA, give me one reason to be optimistic.

  • iain

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:26 PM

    Comment #5

    im always believed sam would be gone by the summer.

    but on other hand im never keen on sacking managers during a season.

    but his arrogance drives me mad and only makes us look worse when things go bad.

  • bod

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:26 PM

    Comment #6

    crisis is being in bottom 3 get a grip and saying man city deserved the win stop talking rubbish why dont u mention the bad look we had elano should have been sent off duff was onside with a good chance but got flagged yeah we got beat but u dont report owt positive you are forever having a go no wonder they are saying we are all negative that was by far one of the best performances for chances all season play like that get a bit of good luck and things can change

  • bod

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:27 PM

    Comment #7

    ah and a blatant foul on steve taylor by richard dunne

  • Die hard toon

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:28 PM

    Comment #8

    Sam is a clown why Martins and not V iduka?anyway Man city were better good win to them .

  • steve

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:29 PM

    Comment #9

    well we need something to happen quickly – we are now in a worse position footballing wise than when Roeder left, Either Sam needs to be sacked or given a ton of cash to try and bring some quality to the club.

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see Zogs/Emre wanting a move in Jan, and think Sam will be happy to offload one or all of our current crop of strikers if Kevin Davies is available and Bolton offer Anelka in part ex for Owen

  • KevinHann

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:31 PM

    Comment #10

    Zx – no matter how bad it can get, after the worst possible Sam WILL get the sack – cheers!

  • valle

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:31 PM

    Comment #11

    Well… I actually thought we got some flair, and i certainly think Dukes and Zog pierced them at times. We do have too many players who just aint good enough tho, and Big Sam does makes some strange decisions at times… The player who disapoint me the most is actually Butt… Here we have a player of the former famous Man Utd 92 team, he is given armband to lead us out, and yet he cannot make a freakin pass right!!!, whats up with that?, was he this bad at Man Utd or are we truly cursed?… Milner… The guy gotta go, he is so frustrating that i find myself screaming at the screen in some weird hope that the boy will hear me and get some football intelligence (PLEASE COME BACK NOBBY). Time after time his delivery is absolute rubbish!, and thats iff he actually gets to the cross, since he more than often hands possesion over to oposition with his dribling, that is bad to put it nicely!… And lets not forget allot of u guys little favorite, Oba cant score if my life depends on it Martins… His passing sucks, his runs sucks, his understanding of the game sucks and worst of all, his finishing and composure sucks big time!!!… The only blame that can be laid at Sams feet is that he failed to see how much of a liability Butt is to us, and changed Emre with him instead (Or even Roz, if Faye was that fatiqued. He would do better than Butt im sure)… Im really feeling with Dukes most of all, him, Zog and Duff all had great games but Dukes did an amazing job, and made it look pretty to boost, too bad we had Oba to ruin all those great moves.

  • LeazesEndLoyal

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:31 PM

    Comment #12

    Lads we won’t take any points this month! Then we’ll be right in the mixer!

  • Mat

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:32 PM

    Comment #13

    Player revolts barely halfway through the season, umpteen different formations and very few players allowed to string more than two games in a row together, public outbursts… what more could have Sam done to lose their confidence?

    The clown has taken a gun squad on paper and turned them into relegation material, just because he wanted to impose his ego on them and make a name for himself. A good manager is man manager first, tactician a distant second.

  • Mson

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:33 PM

    Comment #14

    and btw will be fun to see newcastle without Faye, Beye, Geremi and Obafemi Martins that is off to African Nations Cup soon… GL

  • Robert(From Serbia)

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:33 PM

    Comment #15

    lol,Kevin Davies….the only good striker who can save our ass is Berbatov 🙂 but we dont have a chance signing him…and another CB would be great…Faye is absolutly fantastic signing…

  • iain

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:34 PM

    Comment #16

    i think if we got beat at stoke sam could oddly use it in his favour.

    as long as he puts out a team that on paper looks like its going for the win playing our best players i think if we lost we would all be the first to agree that maube a few players arnt good enough.

    but until thats the case all the blame has to lie with the manager and his tinkering and stubborn formations and selections.

  • Toon_Under

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:34 PM

    Comment #17

    Dire. One of the most shambolic performances I have witnessed. But seeing as we named two defensive midfielders in the middle of the park at home, what were we to expect??

    If the wind is howling through, then keep the ball on the ground. Even under 12’s know this, and it’s not that hard. There was no movement either, and often it looked like we were on top of each other with no game plan.

    My only question is this: do we actually do any skills and match like training or do our players just do health and fitness work like jogging and yoga? If so, it doesn’t appear to be working since there is a total lack of understanding on the pitch – and that is a management and coaching issue that rests at the foot of Sam Allardyce.

    Get some heart back in the team, give players a bit more free rein and lets gets some of the reserves in there – it’s worked previously, they are hungry to play and cannot be any worse..

  • steve

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:35 PM

    Comment #18

    bod – you have to make your own luck, which game were you watching, we looked terrible in the 2nd half and City eventually won the game comfortably.

    This is a crisis as we are losing the points gap we had between us and the bottom clubs and have a tough run of games coming up where its hard to see where we are going to get points.

    I can’t believe fans saying Sam will turn it round, his buys thus far have been poor apart from Beye and Faye both of whom we lose for the African Cup, I can’t see Owen lasting 6 weeks injury free which means we’ll have Smith, Shola and Viduka up front – hardly inspires confidence.

    Sam needs to buy and buy quickly but which top player would even come

  • valle

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:35 PM

    Comment #19

    Steve… In part for Owen???… Surely that must be because u think they wouldnt touch Oba with a 10 foot pole?

  • ende

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:35 PM

    Comment #20

    Newcastle management just need to not listen to the fans, and wait. Time is on their side. Newcastle’s results may not stabilize until next season, but when they do the fans will quickly forget the pains it took to get there.

  • Hadrian

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:35 PM

    Comment #21

    Mort’s a very clever man , im sure his pre match comments in the program are just layiing the foundations for sam’s departure .
    shearer today has said its not his faults he’s linked with the toon job, but didnt come out and say he didnt want it like get’s uglier by the day southgate said he should .
    not that im saying shearer is a perfect candidate , like keegan did, he has no managerial experience .
    i think we should bring kevin home personally , and have shearer by his side .

  • Shropshire Blue

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:36 PM

    Comment #22

    As I said on your blog yesterday ” … after our lucky win tomorrow …”
    N’Zogbia was excellent, I’d swap Owen, Viduka, Martins or Ameobi for any of our strikers, Butt and Milner good. I still say you’ll get into Europe. Just hope our bubble doesn’t burst and you finish above us.

    Good luck to good supporters …

  • Clouded

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:38 PM

    Comment #23

    In my eyes…at least Roeder has heard of the footballing term “attack”

    So basically, in the last 12 games we’ve won 2 and drawn 3. Thats simply not good enough for a big club like us. He has had half the season so far and from i’ve seen, we’re definately performing a heck of alot worse than we have under the 2 previous regimes of Souness and Roeder.

  • steve

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:41 PM

    Comment #24

    valle – unfortunately Anelka won’t come to toon in a million years, Martins will be off to a club in southern europe, his preference apparantly is Italy
    Owen may goto Man City for 8 million.
    Shola would goto Norwich given half the chance
    FatBoy’s happy to stay for the cash but I reckon Sam will try and use him for a swap or part ex.

  • sparetheman

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:43 PM

    Comment #25

    Fantasy Football has Butt as our best player! What a joke. Disappointing but not our worst performance. Gotta give City credit – they hold on to their leads. Their defense is immense. Our midfield needs sorting out though – Faye looked good today but he’ll be dropped for Smith against Stoke I bet. Smith and Butt in the middle of the park will never get us into Europe.

  • Rob

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:54 PM

    Comment #26

    Play well 1st half, created plenty of chances, crosses into the box etc.

    disappointed with Milner, Butt, Oba tonight. Too many players need too long on the ball, too many touches, slows the game down too much. Faye needs about 5 touches before he makes a pass and in my opinion is not dynamic enough. Butt takes too long on the ball and passing wan’t great either. Milner, well shocker tonight, has he ever put a 1st time cross in?
    N’Zogbia was great again, Beye was good, Centre halfs were OK too.

  • Rob Kirton

    Jan 2, 2008 at 10:54 PM

    Comment #27

    No big fan of Sam – and think he should be replaced. However only when we have an alternative lined up. Until then we’ll have to hold tight.

    Given Man City’s away record, tonight was one of our easiest fixtures this month; so it could be rough by the end of Jan. We should stay up, though no doubt on current form – that is the end of the table we are staring at.

    Tonight was a perfect lesson in how to play 4-5-1. Sharp one touch passing to feet and players getting up to support the front man. After we had created a few half chances in the first half it could maybe be argued that we were unfortunate to go in one down. Why players should be so down and demotivated after the interval is an absolute mystery. Looks like Mogadon in the half time tea.

    Sam has already suggested that we will only release players this January if they are unhappy. I just hope he doesn’t get a surprise knock on the door from some of our better performers such as N’Zogbia. Probably not likely, I suspect any dis-satisfied players will bide their time until the summer.

    It all might end up being a big waiting game until then…….

  • valle

    Jan 2, 2008 at 11:15 PM

    Comment #28

    sparetheman… Really?… Thats a joke indeed… At times he seems like our worst player.

  • scotty

    Jan 2, 2008 at 11:16 PM

    Comment #29

    One thing for sure. None of us thought we’ed be feeling like this at the start of the season. We have not made any progress whatsoever. It really is a bad time to be a Newcastle supporter.

  • deano

    Jan 2, 2008 at 11:20 PM

    Comment #30

    i was there tonight freezing to death, the so called fans sit there and mon
    fns do not get behinde the team any more
    i not rewnewing my ticket next season because theirs no sound and am ord stiff ?£700 to watch this shat i dont think so??????????

    i fell sorry fo the real fans in level 7 their like away supporters
    the good old days or gone forever???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  • James

    Jan 2, 2008 at 11:56 PM

    Comment #31

    I love Shearer like everyone else, but does he have the experience to organize a defensive and make average players into great ones over night? As much as I’d like to see the back of overpaid Sam, now is not the time.

    We will lose to Stoke, of that I am 100% sure even before the City game tonight. But I still think Mort will Sam until the summer. After all it will cost him 30 million in wages (for him and back room staff) to sack him now.

    On the plus side, I thought Owen was excellent tonight. His getting back into midfield to help out, and link up play was classic centre forward stuff. Simply a different class from the headless chicken of Martins.

  • Dragoner

    Jan 3, 2008 at 12:07 AM

    Comment #32

    oh well, we are the premiership whipping boys. Every bad record the opposition has is broken against us. it has gotten to the point where i dont care who or when we play next(although that will have changed by tomorrow). I just dont understand how a match that promised so much from us delivered absolutely nothing. We are at our lowest point, much like Tottenham were from the beginning of the season until the beginning of the holiday period.

  • Leo

    Jan 3, 2008 at 12:25 AM

    Comment #33

    crisis pah where… joking

  • valle

    Jan 3, 2008 at 1:07 AM

    Comment #34

    Dragonar… Exactly… A striker hasnt scored for ages, he is bound to score against us… A team hasnt won for ages, they are bound to win against us, a team hasnt gotten any away points for ages… well guess what?, they will against us… I cant beleive ppl talking about City playing great… They played wise and with good defense and contra… thats it. Its not like their playing arsenal football, and haven seen quite allot of them, its unbeleivable the luck they get this season.

  • malaysian youngster

    Jan 3, 2008 at 6:04 AM

    Comment #35

    get roeder back and make sam his assistant or transfer dude. roeder got a really depleted squad. i mean very thin squad with no much qualities.just look at last year defence and now.i think roeder can make us back to euro.im just too optimistic i think.


    Jan 3, 2008 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #36

    lets face it guy’s we are sh*t!!! did anyone really think we would win last night? The team, the fans & the management are at an all time low. In your own job if that were the case things wouldnt get any better until you left or your boss left.
    Im not keen on sacking manager after manager, but face the facts. SA was not ashleys choice, a lot of the players where inherited & SA’s tactics are questionable (ie Zog at left back, Jimmy at left side of midfield, the change of centre backs , midfield & the shape of the team)
    The media are on the fans case for having an opinion, jesus we aint won anything for nearly 50 years!!! however its ok for the scousers to boo liverpool & call for rafas head because they are not top!!! get a reality check, it’s easy to support a winning side. We never booed king kev when we didnt win the premiership, just applauded for the wonderful football & honest endeavour.

  • Obafan

    Jan 3, 2008 at 4:38 PM

    Comment #37

    City played spart, but were not of the level of the EPL top 4. So if we get beaten at home by those teams then we have to start questionning ourselves were we will end?

    For one more time I really was hoping that when I opened this site that I would read the announcement of SA who got sacked today, but again I’m disappointed. How long will it go before something is done? When it is too late and when we are in a relegation battle, cause that is where this will end when nothing changes.

    I have to admit that I really was excited when SA was our manager, not for his tactics, but for his transfer policy. I still believe that 7 from the 9 new players are good. Barton not included, because of the all knowing reasons and Smith for me is overrated. Enrique is a player who can be better, but not in this way. He got on the field and he has got nothing of confidence. That is the problem with the others also, when you look:

    – Cacapa; played 4 or 5 fantastic seasons in Lyon and now he looks so nervous every time when he gest the ball.
    – Rozehnal the same started very good and then confidence completely gone.

    I can go on for hours with all the players.

    So we really have qaulity in our team, but the quality is used in a wrong way and so you loose the most of the quality. For me that is the biggest part in which SA fails; he is not able to creat a winning atmoshere in which every player has got 200% of confidence.

  • Obafan

    Jan 3, 2008 at 4:39 PM

    Comment #38

    * not spart but smat off course 😉

  • Davey G

    Jan 4, 2008 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #39

    DRAGONER!!! Like i posted last week, your not so gobby now about us being an Improving side are you? And thats after just 1 match and not the three i predicted would change your mind???
    But no doubt you will comeback with your name calling and I am right attitude……
    Wake up and smell the coffee mate, we aint an improving team……improving teams pick up results, we get beat…………..

  • Dragoner

    Jan 4, 2008 at 2:43 PM

    Comment #40

    that comment was made out of depression. Now i am thinking straight we are still improving. Better defence, and we played well going forward against Man City. In fact, our only proper problem was not converting our chances. I watched the match aswell so i know exactly how we played. Most people will agree we played very well for most of the game.


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