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Keegan Wants Two Defenders In Within A Week



Newcastle United need reinforcements in central midfield and defense.

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Vasilis Torosidis – says Newcastle United are interested

But of these two the defense needs strengthening most so it’s not surprising that Kevin Keegan wants to bring in two defenders, a center-back and a left back within the next week.

News today that one of our targets last year, Chelsea defender Tal Ben Haim, has moved to Manchester City for £4M.

It’s reported in the Daily Mail that Ben Haim chose Eastlands over Newcastle United, but we really have no idea if Kevin Keagan even rates the Israeli, although we would have welcomed him into the squad, since he’s experienced and can play anywhere along the back four, and has proven Premier League experience.

But since Kevin came back last January we’ve never been linked with the former Bolton Wanderers player, who only moved to Chelsea last summer on a free transfer.

He joins Steve Sidwell in moving on from the London club, to try to get a game elsewhere. Both were poor moves for the players last summer, and both had the chance to move to Newcastle as an alternative destination – oh well.

But Keegan knows where his priorities lie, and he is hoping to have a left-back and a central defender before next week’s tournament in Mallorca.

Newcastle have been linked with many many defenders this summer, and we wonder what has happened to Sebastien Basson, who had a week’s trial at the club last week? There’s been no word from the club on the 22 year-old Metz defender.

We’ve had a £3M bid for Blackburn left back Stephen Warnock turned down, and have also been linked with Vasilis Torosidis of Olympiakos, who has said Newcastle are interested in him.

Newcastle were reported last March to be interested in the 23 year-old, who stand 6’1″, and has played over 30 times for Olympiacos since 2006, and over 15 times for Greece since last year.

The Greek is trying to stir up interest in himself by also saying that he may also move to Blackburn Rovers or Atletico Madrid.

But we’ve been linked with lots and lots of defenders, and we cannot wait too much longer to bring in a couple of good young players, but who they may be is anybody’s guess at this point.

Comments welcome.


124 comments so far

  • Tom_Toon

    Jul 24, 2008 at 12:40 PM

    Comment #81

    Just sign Torosidis!

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  • normski1930z

    Jul 24, 2008 at 12:48 PM

    Comment #82

    has anybody else noticed how all of our dealings seem to be undisclosed fees…. maybe its just me or is that because fat boy doesnt want us to know much he is pocketing…. coz he certainly aint spending it on the team…..

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  • Angryman the Angry Fan

    Jul 24, 2008 at 12:52 PM

    Comment #83

    SWEDE ERIC & TOONY, Please!!
    You are being taken in by business talk.

    look, when a person buys a business as big as NUFC, he has to justify it to the staff and customers that are already there. How do you do this?? You say “God, i got in just in time, just before the business was about to fold like a deck of cards” He immediatley tries to gain the trust of the people he needs!!

    They then release statements to show that they are trying to turn the company around, “we have just bid 16m for Modric” and now that this is a privately owned company they dont have to report this to anybody, so only they will know if it is true or not!!

    Mort said that they held talks with Modric at the training ground and offered more than Spurs??? So why on earth did Modric say he had never been to Newcastle and never spoken to anyone at newcastle. A quick retraction from Mort to say that they had spoken to his agent….mmmm dubious!!

    I dont believe it for one moment, any of it.
    The debt was paid off to save Cashley Money (interest Payments), no one else, it also makes the club alot more attractive to investors/buyers.

    How many times, other people have tried to explain this on here, this is how the club is being run!! Not saying it is wrong, not sayong it is right, but what i am asking for is for NUFC to provide us with a team to make us proud again!!

    He isnt doing that at the Moment, we are simply still a laughing stock!!!

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  • normski1930z

    Jul 24, 2008 at 12:55 PM

    Comment #84

    well sed angry dude this guy is as hard as mountain goats hoafs….and as for the modric i for one dont believe it ever happened so it just goes to show what a lying bunch we have in charge…

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  • Angryman the Angry Fan

    Jul 24, 2008 at 12:57 PM

    Comment #85

    fees are undisclosed because…..”they dont have to declare it to anyone but thenselves” as seen in my previous post.
    So yes, in a sense, we, the fans, the paying lifeblood, dont know how much we are spending!!

    YET, they were quite happy to say “We bid 16M for Luka Modric”….wakey wakey all you Cashley fans!!

    It didnt happen!! Its all about Marketting!!
    Selling tickets to put money in the coffers!! Not bothered about bums on seats, just get the Cash in!!

    PROVE ME WRONG CASHLEY!!!!!! PLEASE

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  • Sal

    Jul 24, 2008 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #86

    Angry Man, Please!!
    You are being taken in by complete cynicism.

    We are a business and are being run properly this time around.

    Ash cleared the debts so he would pay out less in interest repayments – ummm, yes, although it is the club which will be paying less in interest repayments and of course not repaying the capital element – We had reportedly borrowed tens of millions secured against future ST revenue’s, we reportedly borrowed money specifically to buy Michael Owen, can you not see that this approach could have only lead to financial ruin – Leeds anyone??????

    Ash is trying to turn the clubs finances around for the club and for himself – Guess what, I also go to work to make money, as do you and all the club owners in the league barr Roman Abramovic.

    If you really believe we didnt table a bid for Modric, or Aimar then fair enough, I however firmly believe we tried to sign those players and as such I firmly believe that should the opportunity to sign the RIGHT player arise, we will go for it.

    Why go and spunk £10mil on some diva that just wants to get on the NUFC gravy train of previous years – Bollox to that, we are punching below our weight these days and its time to work our way up properly.

    Stop complaining when as yet, there is no real reason to do so.

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  • Ed Harrison

    Jul 24, 2008 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #87

    Jim Toon – Cuellar has today said he doesn’t want to leave Rangers – but we could still bid.

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  • harrier

    Jul 24, 2008 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #88

    Angryman – I don’t know where to begin with alot of the dumb things you have said today.

    You made a post of a list of players who would never join us unless we had champions league football already.

    You think Ashley would be a smart enough business man to realise that alienating your public will not result in increased sales.

    Ashley knows he is selling a product that is the whole football club.

    Ashley probably could put a 40 million pound bid and offer 200000 pounds per week in wages – but it would be the dumbest thing i would have ever heard, and I would probably be as angry as you.

    If we pay silly fees – everyone will expect us to pay silly fees and prices for players go up.

    If we pay silly wages – all the players expect silly wages and we cannot (and likely will never) afford that

    If Ashley leaves after we invested heavily in these uber expensive players and can’t pay the bills then we will do a leeds.

    “Cashley” needs to prove nothing because their current transfer policy is better than it was.

    Please stop trying to ruin our club.

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  • Toon 85

    Jul 24, 2008 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #89

    I can’t believe the stick Ashley is getting on here, Ashley is a hell of a lot more clever than any of us on here, he has seen what signing players like boumsong and luque has done to the club, and doesn’t want it to happen again. I would rather sign a guthrie then a luque any day of the week.

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  • AndyT

    Jul 24, 2008 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #90

    normski,
    Newcastle lost 30Million in 2007 and that was with UEFA cup revenues, so given he had to personally fork out 80million in bank debts when he took over, unless he’s managed to somehow reduce the wage bill by £30 million a year and those undisclosed transfer fees happen to net out to £80Million into the club, then no, he’s not spending it on the team, but its costing him millions just to keep the club going as it is.

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  • Toony

    Jul 24, 2008 at 1:23 PM

    Comment #91

    Points well made ANGRY, and I think you just got Haywood the sack lol…..He’s just left the board after a year when Ashley brought him in to make a marketing difference.

    Seriously though I still thank god that Shephards out and I feel a lot more confident about where the club are going. Mind you I also have to say that I preferred it years ago when when we all assumed that the club was in safe hands and we just turned up to enjoy the match!

    I think we all have enough stress in REAL life and could probably do without worrying but then with the web and TV and newspapers on a daily basis it gets difficult not to get involved.

    What happens on the pitch is really all I am concerned about.

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  • AndyT

    Jul 24, 2008 at 1:34 PM

    Comment #92

    Angryman
    There is no requirement in any transfer to reveal the fee, no matter what the company structure. The fact that the club is not listed on the stock exchange just means that there is less regulation around the timing of announcements because they can’t affect market prices. There are slightly more relaxed timings around publishing financial information, but it still has to be put into the public domain. Go and pay a quid at the companies house website for the last set of accounts and see how much money the club was losing before he bought it.

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  • ObaFan2

    Jul 24, 2008 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #93

    Personally I’m happy with the way the club has changed in the last 12 months under MA’s control.

    I am a little disappointed at the lack of signings so far this summer but I’m happy to wait for the season to start in 3 weeks or so and see who we have then.

    Running a club like NUFC and buying the right players at the right time isn’t like playing any FM game, timing(player availability and their expectations), getting the price right and players contracts right etc all take time if the club is to be run well and efficiently.

    Give them time and all will be well, if not we can voice our opinions @ SJP the same way Villa fans did with Barry 😆

    Keep the faith……. yet again.

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  • AndyT

    Jul 24, 2008 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #94

    Hey Angry the other thing you would learn from the accounts is that matchday revenues (season tickets and bums on seats) only account for 34% of the total revenue.

    Also the debt wasn’t paid off to save interest payments (And by the way those were interest payments that Newcastle United were making, not Ashley) nor was it necesarily because he particularly wanted to. It was quite simply because the loans that Newcastle United had been entered into included clauses that gave the banks the option to recall the loan if the club was de-listed, which given the current situation in the financial markets, the banks alll promptly invoked. So he had no choice in the matter, he either had to declare his newly purchased football club bankrupt, or fork out the cash.

    In terms of marketing the club. Do you really think shouting from the rooftops about money trouble is a good way to get players into the club? how many posts on here start with X is in trouble we could get their star player for as little as Y million – they need the cash!

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  • Angryman the Angry Fan

    Jul 24, 2008 at 1:47 PM

    Comment #95

    Harrier, F*** OFF man!!
    Me ruining this club!! Statement of the day….

    If you read my posts, if you can!!
    You will read and understand that I am not asking him to pay silly wages, I am not asking him to pay over the odds purchase fees, I am asking him to pay the going rate, as are all the other teams that have improved their teams.

    You contradict yourself by saying that we could do a leeds.
    The club that were millions in debt yet, spend further millions on sub standard players!!
    We havent any debt supposedley and we arent spending, pull the other fekka it has bells on!!

    Honestly, their transfer policy is rubbish. Or should I say what transfer policy, we aint signed anyone that has cost us anything yet man!!Bargain basement is not good enough for my team matey!!

    READ MY POST, I did say that before anyone shouted me down, i too am allowed to dream!!

    FFS…me ruining the club!! If only i had that kind of power…..T*T!!!

    ED-Sorry for swearing, it has totally shanked me off that someone can accuse me of ruining NUFC, just by making my thoughts vocal!!

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  • ObaFan2

    Jul 24, 2008 at 1:51 PM

    Comment #96

    Do you not think that some of us bloggers on here are sick of all the negative tripe we have to endure day in day out when all we want is to enjoy the crack.

    Ok opinions voiced but not hourly/daily plz.

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  • Sal

    Jul 24, 2008 at 1:51 PM

    Comment #97

    Angry Chap:

    We wont do a Leeds because we are now run by a real management team.

    I have very little doubt that if the pie man were still at the healm, we would be spiralling toward obscurity within 5 years.

    Keep the faith, and Twist on September 1st should we not have got some good players in.

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  • AndyT

    Jul 24, 2008 at 1:53 PM

    Comment #98

    Angry,

    The point is you are asking him to pay that. Personally. Out of his own pocket. When he is already putting millions, personally, out of his own pocket into keeping the club going.

    The club can’t afford it – simple as.

    Personaly I would love it if he did throw a few more million (alright several tens more) at it. But at the end of the day it his money.

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  • ObaFan2

    Jul 24, 2008 at 1:58 PM

    Comment #99

    KK has 3 years to build the team, I believe we will have some good players added this season who will help the rest of (imo) a good but small squad (some exceptions like Smith but hey he might come good ? lol)

    I am hopeful we will have a good base to build from and that NUFC will be one of the more stable teams/clubs in the EPL for many years to come whoever owns it and that will be down to MA and CM’s hard work over the last 12 months.

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  • Angryman the Angry Fan

    Jul 24, 2008 at 1:58 PM

    Comment #100

    AndyT

    Season Tickets and bums on seats are 34% of the revenue yes??

    So waht does he make from selling the beer, form merchandise and from sales of players?

    Wasnt it you recently who told me that figures can be dressed up?? Things can be declared and other things maybe not? so is there any possibility the revenues generated can be ‘dressed up’ in order to tell us that the club arent making much money? I believe account s on comany house are accounts filed from April to April? so that the most recent figures will be Apr 2007-2008? and the figures will take into account the purchase battle, that cost, and took place? therefore maybe giving a slightly distorted view of P&L. I dont know, not an accountant, of which you obviously are??

    Just curious, you seem to know a helluva alot about NUFC financial state than most of us, and by all accounts it doesnt sound like we are gonna be able to afford to invest in the team :-).

    My point precisley!!

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  • AndyT

    Jul 24, 2008 at 2:02 PM

    Comment #101

    A final comment on how much Newcastle currently costs to run – If we have such a depleted squad and desperately need quality players – how come we have the fifth highest wage bill in the premiership and how come spending even more is the solution?

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  • Angryman the Angry Fan

    Jul 24, 2008 at 2:06 PM

    Comment #102

    Okay Fellas and any ladies!!

    I shall take my ‘Negative’ views elsewhere, but it is a sad day, when you cannot get your opinion across on an internet blog. At least all of my posts are about The greatest team on earth, I very rarely abuse anyone, only when they accuse me of things I havent done.

    But for all the Cashley Lovers, please check out a few more blogs, broaden your horizons, and you will see that you guys thinking Cashley is doing good for the team are firmly in the minority!!

    Just my opinion………

    (Bugle) Der, derr ..derrrrrrrrrrrr……..der..derrrrrrrrrrr
    (Thats the last post.)

    Ha ha!!
    Enjoy many hours of talking Blog 😉

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  • Sal

    Jul 24, 2008 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #103

    Cant speak for Andy but I am an accountant, and regardless of the club being privately owned or a plc, the accounts will be audited and if they were materially misstated, the auditors would provide a report saying so.

    Just stop trying to disect every move Ash makes and let him and the club get on with it.

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  • Toonybroon

    Jul 24, 2008 at 2:11 PM

    Comment #104

    Big virgin!!

    @ANDYT,

    5th Highest Wage bill??

    Biggest board of useless directors contributes somewhat to a ludicrous wage bill!!!

    They arent effing well doing their jobs!!!

    PS reading your Accounts accumen, did you get your Cert from a Christmas Cracker??

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  • Micky Toon

    Jul 24, 2008 at 2:18 PM

    Comment #105

    Angry, your internet persona is a bit tiresome. Cue remark from angry about me being tiresome.
    Obviously you’ve set your internet persona up to just slag off what is happening at the club and nothing that anyone says can change your mind. Fair enough, if that’s how you want to play, but be aware that the reasonable people on here can actually see the good work that is happening at SJP and that the long term furture of the club is now secure. Something that is far more important than signing “big name player here for one last windfall before he retires, but we’ll sign him just to shut the braying masses up. Obviously NUFC don’t make decisions based on a bunch of internet bloggers, if they did I’d be seriously worried. However it’s not just on here that people are shouting about MA’s seemingly lack of funding. The club will be more aware of fans discontent than you think they are. IF by signing someone would shut up at least 50% of the detractors then they may do it.
    At least we aren’t going for token signings like Michael Owen. Does anyone really think that wasn’t an exercise in Fat Freddy trying to shut the sack the board mob? Fat Fred was finished, we were chanting for his head, I know I was one of them, then suddenly he pulls Owen from out of his big fat arse and suddenly no one was joining me in the sack the boad club. Wool pulled over the eyes. I’m glad our current owner does not resort to these tactics.

    If you still need convincing that MA does what the fans want then look no further than who he appointed as a manager. He bottled appointing a proper manager and went for the “peoples choice” in Keegan. Big mistake IMHO. I’m not trolling, I’ve said this many times on here. Keegan is not the man he was and cannot push the club to where we want it to be.

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  • AndyT

    Jul 24, 2008 at 2:18 PM

    Comment #106

    Angry – the figures in that set of accounts can’t be too dressed up – they are the last set that are as a PLC. Its also consistent with the three previous years, so not likely. Merchandising is another 32% and TV revenue and sponsorship account for the rest. But matchday revenues include the matchday catering like the corporate hospitality the bar sales etc.

    The player transfers are a whole murky bit. Basically they are only required to list either profit or loss on player registrations and that includes fringe players that are released and the notional value of their registration etc. Also the total wage bill is listed, but not itemised in any way, not even to differentiate between playing/non playing staff or those directly linked to the team versus ancilliary staff like stewards or admin staff.

    The accounts for a company can run from any date and usually (although not always) for 1 year. Newcastle (and most european football clubs) run from 1st July, which corresponds with both the season and players contracts.

    The reason I knowall of this is I bought the accounts from companies house. you can do it on line – it costs £1. I have a degree in European Business Administration From Hendon Business School a postgraduate degree in Enterprise Management from Durham University Business School and am director of a company that supplies consultancy to most of the big financial institutions in the city (Not bad for a lad from Ashington eh?). But mostly because I’m a nosey bast’d and I wouldn’t trust a journalist as far as I could throw one.

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  • AndyT

    Jul 24, 2008 at 2:23 PM

    Comment #107

    Hey Angry – stick around.
    You’ve got passion about the club and want to see stuff happen and get frustrated when nothing does. Thats not tiresome.

    If everyone made identical posts and had the same oppinion on everything there would never be any point in getting to comment 2.

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  • ObaFan2

    Jul 24, 2008 at 2:23 PM

    Comment #108

    AndyT, hope you didn’t need all that fine education to realise you can’t trust journos 🙂

    Nowt wrong with Ashington btw, except for the obvious 😆

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  • Angryman the Angry Fan

    Jul 24, 2008 at 2:25 PM

    Comment #109

    AndyT

    I am impressed!!
    You dont trust journo’s like I dont trust Cashley!

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  • Angryman the Angry Fan

    Jul 24, 2008 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #110

    Micky Toon??

    Is that your opinion by any chance???
    Okay then, i respect it, BUT. Please explain….Why am i not allowed to voice mine??

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  • AndyT

    Jul 24, 2008 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #111

    He He – never said I trusted Ashley either – thats another reason I went to look for myself.

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  • ObaFan2

    Jul 24, 2008 at 2:37 PM

    Comment #112

    Each thread seems to turn into either a FM game style talk rubbish about impossible signings or Bash Ashley/stick up for him chat.

    I however realise your passion for our team Angryman and really hope by Christmas your view has changed for the better in that we have made major steps forward as a club and are producing good performances on the pitch.

    Only time will tell tbh how our club’s future will turn out .

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  • harrier

    Jul 24, 2008 at 3:10 PM

    Comment #113

    Angryman nothing against you – I have seen your thoughts – but I don’t need to see them everyday. I don’t spout my views until someone starts with the anti-ashley stuff. In fact I am sick of arguing about it. The club will be fine. Nobody is spending money this transfer market. Fees in football are way to high as it is – glad someone has made a stand to say we are not going to pay rediculous wages. Perhaps a bit harsh but I see you here almost everyday trying to recriut more people into the Ashley out brigade. I just worry that you will succeed in getting support and Ashley will leave.

    Many argue the club is falling behind – relegation fight blah blah blah. The 5 teams ahead of have made 5 total transfers – two of them not doing anything. Our team became good at the end of the season – and with the right players than perhaps we can push onwards and upwards. It will not kill us to be stuck in midtable for another year as our players get more experience and we get to use more of our younger players.

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  • Angryman the Angry Fan

    Jul 24, 2008 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #114

    Obafan2

    I honestly hope my opinion has changed also!!
    More than anyone would believe!!

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  • ObaFan2

    Jul 24, 2008 at 4:06 PM

    Comment #115

    🙂 I know I can read that m8.
    I’m the opposite in that come the end of the transfer window and if we haven’t improved our squad significantly I’ll be yelling at those in power but atm I believe they are doing the best they can at this moment in our clubs history.

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  • WIGAZ

    Jul 24, 2008 at 4:14 PM

    Comment #116

    Dont know much about this greek lad but if all say he’s good i’ll be happy with that! i’d like to see Shorey in at left back & possibly evans on loan! i really hope these are 2 players we have tied up already! would love to see some experience come in like sol just to help taylor & evans develop!

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  • harrier

    Jul 24, 2008 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #117

    that was a way of apologizing by the angryman 😉

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  • G

    Jul 24, 2008 at 4:39 PM

    Comment #118

    Angryman

    I agree with you
    Every club in PL can keep buying and keep running well, why not us?
    Last season we just made around 6M net spending by Big Sam
    Why we have no money to buy player this season?
    Mike Ashley bought the club for around 200M and paid around 80M to cover the debts so it is totally 280-300M, but the investment company from US and UAE willing to pay 400M to buy Newcastle from Mike Ashley
    If Newcastle have serious financial problem, why investors are willing to buy it? They are idiots?
    F***ing Ashley treats Newcastle as an earning business and only wants to get as much profit as he could from the club!

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  • ObaFan2

    Jul 24, 2008 at 4:54 PM

    Comment #119

    G, your facts are wrong…. but it’s only millions ur talking about so don’t suppose it matters 😆

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  • Toon raghav

    Jul 24, 2008 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #120

    MA is in touch with LADEN’S but MA hasnt agreed on amount .MA wants opium farm opened in his name in afghanistan.MA should be send to Afghanistan ,he doesn’t deserves to stay in our club.everyday he is just breaking our hearts .

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