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Joe Kinnear Back In Hot Water With English FA

It is hardly a surprise that Newcastle’s interim manager Joe Kinnear has been asked by the FA to explain his comments after branding Martin Atkinson a Mickey Mouse referee last Sunday.

Joe Kinnear – called the officiating on Sunday Mickey Mouse refereeing

When Joe arrived at Newcastle almost 7 weeks ago, he had to sit in the stands for a couple of games, because of a ban he picked up while in his last management job at Nottingham Forest. Kinnear was banned back in 2004 for mocking the referee when he was sill the Nottingham Forest manager, but left the club before serving out his ban.

After he joined Newcastle Joe talked about that incident:

“I got two matches for calling one of the referees ‘Coco the Clown’,” “I asked the referee what he did in his spare time, and that was it.”

The Football Association today confirmed that it has written to Kinnear and asked him to explain his statements following Sunday’s game.

An FA spokesman said today:

“The FA have confirmed they have written to Joe Kinnear to ask him to explain his comments about referee Martin Atkinson following the game at Fulham.”

After the Fulham game Joe Kinnear had told the press:

“We have got the Mickey Mouse referee doing nothing. He’s made an error that cost us.”

Kinnear was annoyed about Fulham’s second goal, and thinks the official missed what he felt was a push by Fulham striker Andy Johnson on Newcastle defender Claudio Cacapa, but we couldn’t see anything from the TV replays, which we looked at a number of times following Joe’s claim.

Quite honestly it was Mickey Mouse defending that cost Newcastle both goals conceded against Fulham.

Since we gave away two bad goals, and our goal was clearly offside, we don’t really think it was worthwhile complaining about the officiating.   😀

Joe now has a week to respond to the FA request, after which the FA will decide whether or not a charge will follow. Since Joe received a warning from the FA, following his rant principally against Simon Bird of the Daily Mail, we think he will likely be punished, maybe with a one game ban, but let’s hope the FA are not too severe on Joe.

Joe Kinnear needs all the help he can get right now at Newcastle, with such a small squad, and three long term injuries, and no help whatsoever from the Newcastle Board, who are getting big wages for doing almost nothing.

We wonder if the FA will take that into consideration. 😀

We will continue to support Joe Kinnear at Newcastle, and he’s showing in his short time at the club to be quite a character, and we know he’s doing his very best in what are extremely difficult circumstances, that other managers wouldn’t even take on.

We appreciate that.

Comments welcome.

33 comments so far

  • Karltoon

    Nov 11, 2008 at 4:56 PM

    Comment #1


  • Toon Graeme

    Nov 11, 2008 at 5:29 PM

    Comment #2

    Ref aside we under performed and were pants!

  • kevtoon

    Nov 11, 2008 at 5:34 PM

    Comment #3

    I think taking into account he was banned two games for the Coco the Clown comments then Mickey Mouse should see him at least the same, if not more for the repeat offence – my bet is that the next referee abuse scandal involving JFK will revolve around the more obscure cartoon character Snagglepuss – just a hunch!

  • Whumpie

    Nov 11, 2008 at 5:38 PM

    Comment #4

    I hate it when managers go off on one when they’ve had their own bit of luck. Shola’s goal was obviously offside, so why make a depressing loss worse by getting into trouble with the FA?

    Needs to learn to button it, or send in Hughton to talk to the press when he can’t.

  • Whumpie

    Nov 11, 2008 at 5:38 PM

    Comment #5

    The ref was pants, though.

  • Born Again Geordie

    Nov 11, 2008 at 5:41 PM

    Comment #6

    Is it me or do we always get the crapest referee’s in all of our games – 6 penalties in 12 games !!!!

  • kevtoon

    Nov 11, 2008 at 5:45 PM

    Comment #7

    The two handball pens were wrong, as was the Beye one against Man City – the other 3 were nailed on correct though…and yes the refs at the games I have been to (basically just the home games) have been very poor


    Nov 11, 2008 at 6:10 PM

    Comment #8

    Yeah typical FA, go for the easy targets, While ignoring the serious problems (we want to be seen as doing our job, while not upsetting anyone)
    What about racist chants, or the disgusting verbal s**t directed at Campbell.
    The poor quality of refereeing, why in the twenty first century are we not using video
    replays to settle questionable calls.
    Eh ! what do you expect from a bunch of small minded jerks, whose first interest is in preserving their jobs.

  • Ryan Peacock

    Nov 11, 2008 at 6:25 PM

    Comment #9

    chuck spot on!

    the sol thing has been brushed under the carpet but it dont matter because it isnt newcastle! the fa! f*** me off!

  • beyethegreat

    Nov 11, 2008 at 6:27 PM

    Comment #10

    agreed chuck but the f.a does n ot have the decision to use video that us up to fifa

  • beyethegreat

    Nov 11, 2008 at 6:28 PM

    Comment #11

    also to be fair nothing happened to us when we were chanting racist slurs towards mido

  • beyethegreat

    Nov 11, 2008 at 6:29 PM

    Comment #12

    also the barton situation looks to be going under the carpet aswell

  • beyethegreat

    Nov 11, 2008 at 6:36 PM

    Comment #13

    though i didnt actually hear what the spurs fans were singing i read the words on msn
    and they did not seem to be racist

  • It Could Be Worse, We Could Be Spurs! (DC)

    Nov 11, 2008 at 7:27 PM

    Comment #14


    (If it is still up for lack of a better, just voice it and I or someone else will prepare one)


  • It Could Be Worse, We Could Be Spurs! (DC)

    Nov 11, 2008 at 7:29 PM

    Comment #15

    After missing the game and reading everyone’s post-game comments I am now really looking forward to watching it tonight (on tape), wonder if I’ll make it the entire 90 min?

    Should I pick up a bottle of single malt on the way home??

  • Jonny

    Nov 11, 2008 at 7:35 PM

    Comment #16

    it was a clear penalty and cacapa was shrugged off the ball, add the fact that ameobi was offside for his goal and we prob did well out of it, kinnears trying to disguise a sh*t team selection and cr*p performance , end of.

  • It Could Be Worse, We Could Be Spurs! (DC)

    Nov 11, 2008 at 7:41 PM

    Comment #17

    hmm… maybe i’ll just save my self the misery?

  • Mickey Mouse

    Nov 11, 2008 at 7:57 PM

    Comment #18

    Mickey Mouse performance in the main part.

    Mickey mouse referee who got a lot of decisions wrong throughout the game and awarded for a push on a Fulham player not long before the push on Cacapa.

    And the FA have consistently proved themselves as a Mickey Mouse outfit too.

    Seems to me they don’t like the Mickey Mousing truth ha ha

  • JoshNufc91

    Nov 11, 2008 at 8:37 PM

    Comment #19

    just get a bottle of vodka and down it….before the match 🙂
    jonny….does clearly using 2 hands forcefully on a players back count as shrugged off the ball? nakka

  • ronaldeano

    Nov 11, 2008 at 8:53 PM

    Comment #20

    From NUFC.com ….

    Update from the FA, Tuesday:

    “The FA have confirmed they have written to Joe Kinnear to ask him to explain his comments about referee Martin Atkinson following the game at Fulham.”

    JFK’s post-match “Mickey Mouse” labelling of referee Martin Atkinson may see see him face an FA charge and possible touchline ban and/or fine – unless he can come
    up a plausible reason for the comment.

    Kinnear began life as Magpies boss with a two-game ban incurred during his previous stint in charge of Nottingham Forest, for calling referee Clive Penton “Coco the Clown”.

    Media sources then highlighted his late appearance in the tunnel area at Everton while serving the second game of that ban, which saw him spoken to by a policeman.

    That followed closely behind the expletive-ridden press conference that brought the following FA response:

    Newcastle United manager Joe Kinnear has been reminded of his responsibilities by The FA in relation to comments made at a press briefing on 2 October.

    The FA has received an apology from Kinnear for any offence that his comments may have caused.

    The FA has borne into consideration the specific context in which the comments were made and the fact that the comments were made in a closed forum.

    While he will not face any formal disciplinary action on this occasion, he has been advised that in the event of similar public comments, disciplinary proceedings may be brought against him.

  • the black magpie

    Nov 11, 2008 at 9:06 PM

    Comment #21

    o this depression continous… –

  • ed_speed

    Nov 11, 2008 at 9:38 PM

    Comment #22

    ed speed will sort this out. If only he was here now….


    p.s ‘mon the lads

  • KK FOREVER (Ross)

    Nov 11, 2008 at 9:46 PM

    Comment #23

    Did anybody watch Arsenal youngsters beat wigan 3-0 there? they were absolutly excellent, and have some fantastic youngsters, as we all know.
    the lad in the center of the mid was threading passes through their back four and tearing them to bits for fun. he was 16 years old. the pass he made for one of the goals was the type of thing fabregas would have been proud of.
    Canny depressing watching it with the thought of us having Wigan at the weekend, if they beat us after i’ve just watched a team with an average age of 19 make their strongest 11 look ridiculous, i’ll be absolutly gutted.

  • Nick Cotton

    Nov 11, 2008 at 9:52 PM

    Comment #24

    First coco the clown, now Micky Mouse next time he will call the ref Ed Speed and will really be in the doggie doos! Maaaaaaaaaaa.

  • canadawillie

    Nov 11, 2008 at 9:56 PM

    Comment #25

    Joe Kinnear is hardly doing his best for the club if he keeps getting banned from the bench for his comments.

    Unfortunately Joe shoots first and asks questions afterwards. It is hardly surprising that he is not high on every clubs list as manager.

  • Nick C0tt0n

    Nov 11, 2008 at 10:44 PM

    Comment #26

    I should coco

  • sirjasontoon

    Nov 12, 2008 at 12:28 AM

    Comment #27

    Acting a bit of a dick JK,got a massive mouth.
    3 points off wigan needed…if we are down the bottom at xmas that can be a curse…come on toon do something to make us smile…been in depression for months now.

  • clinta

    Nov 12, 2008 at 1:09 AM

    Comment #28

    hmm… to be honest i think old Joe did over react and was really clutching at straws over this one.

    The factys are we played shite, and deserved what we got out of the game, which was nothing.

    He’s energies would be better served addressing what went wrong and trying to fix it, instead of throwing around blame at others not even connected with the club.

    is this a sign of a manger not up to his task??

  • Sav

    Nov 12, 2008 at 2:06 AM

    Comment #29

    The pressure is getting to Joe, by the looks of it.

    He gets little or no information or back-up, doesn’t know if he’ll be in a job this time next month and is still trying to cope with the same squad inadequacies that had KK walking.

    But the rant is only making matters worse.
    Its a bad example to Barton and everyone else, it will only harm the team if Joe gets banished again and it only invites attention and ridicule after another embarrassing, avoidable defeat.

    On a more cheerful note, why not loan out Nile Ranger? It would be worth it just to be able to read the inevitable tabloid headline.


    Nov 12, 2008 at 6:24 AM

    Comment #30

    JK made a poor decision putting Cacapa on instead of Bassong,but he cannot be blamed for players not showing up to play…..
    Joey and Nicky got bossed around the park.
    After our goal they began to play for 10 mins but really Butt should be replaced with fresher legs.


    Nov 12, 2008 at 6:44 AM

    Comment #31

    We have got to stop with the whole “he`s not up to the job” sh+t………
    We have so poor stability in this club with all the managers that are in and out of the place……..
    give it a rest and give JK a chance

  • Toon Graeme

    Nov 12, 2008 at 8:21 AM

    Comment #32

    Watched Arsenals young boys slaughter Wigan last night which at times was pleasing footballl to the eye.

    Putting it plainly – If a bunch of kids can beat Wigan then by rights we should wipe the floor with them – but we all know that is not how it goes.

    Im sure JFK would have watched the match last night to study Wigan etc.

  • Born Again Geordie

    Nov 12, 2008 at 8:57 AM

    Comment #33

    Correct we need 3 points from Wigan on Saturday and I think after Sundays debarcle the lads will be up for it!

    We need to show the same support as we did for the Villa game and really get behind the team, I do think it made a huge difference.

    Having said all this can anyone remember a season where only 9 points separate a european place and bottom of the table? So will being bottom at christmas have as much significance this year????


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