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Kinnear Has No Money From Ashley For January Sales


Joe Kinnear has talked today to the Sunday Sun about the transfer window, so let’s see what he says so we can better ascertain what our chances are of getting some good players into the club are by four weeks tomorrow, when the transfer window will close.

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Xisco – to be sold in January – but he’s never had a chance?

It seems like one player Kinnear definitely wants to sell is 22 year-old Spanish Under-21 International Xisco, who we are told was brought to Newcastle against Keegan’s wishes, and was just one of the reasons for the volcano that erupted on the last day of the sumer transfer window.

When Xisco has appeared at Newcastle, he’s looked a decent player but hardly worth the £5.7M we are supposed to have paid Deportivo La Coruna for him. It appears that the sale of Xisco is the one that Kinnear hopes will bankroll his first signing with as Newcastle manager.

But whether we can find a buyer for Xisco, who is willing to pay anywhere near £5.7M,  is a good question. Xisco has hardly covered himself in glory at St. James’ Park, since we’ve never played the boy, for one reason. Xisco now looks like on of our bad buys in the summer along with loan signing Ignacio Gonzalez, but only because the Uruguayan got injured.

Joe Kinnear told the Sunday Sun today:

“If we can get back somewhere near what we paid for the player we have in mind then I could go and get another player that I want for £5m,”

“One deal will automatically trigger the next one.?”

“So I’m banging on the door hoping that they (the buying club) will make a decision because the player that I want is wanted by other teams too.”

“The last thing I want is to let someone else get in there before we do.”

The Sunday Sun says that Kinnear is also eager to sell Enrique, after we signed the lad from Villarreal for £6.3m in the summer of 2007.

But we would question the validity of that, because Jose is again starting to play well at left-back and it seems he needs a good few games to get his form back, but he’s now playing quite solidly at left back. He’s good moving forward and has great left foot on him, and we like his attitude because he wants to stay and fight for his place at the club, and that can’t be too bad.

That doesn’t say we mustn’t get in another left-back during January, but he would then have to fight it out with Jose for the left back starting berth.  Joe needs to fill out the squad which will add to the competition for places at Newcastle – and that’s what he’s trying to do, but with up front money not available, it will not be easy.

Kinnear continued:

“I just hope it never comes down to Mike suggesting to me that I sell Shay Given in order to free up funds,” “I’d tell Mike that Shay must stay.”

“Shay is an untouchable as far as I’m concerned. Shay and Michael are untouchable in January and there’s no chance I’d sell.”

Kinnear’s bid to keep Given will be sorely tested if we cannot unload the players we want to sell, like Xisco and Geremi.  That’s especially true if Manchester City come in with a huge bid, and then Mike would be challenged with an important decision to make.

It certainly promises to be a very interesting transfer window for Newcastle – watch this space.

Comments welcome.


182 comments so far

  • TROJAN 69

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #121

    waddles mullet,it,s extremely difficult to be optimistic when the keystone cops are running the circus up the road.
    we will have to change the name of the stadium from st james’ to billy smarts.

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  • wsq

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:41 PM

    Comment #122

    even if we get cristiano ronaldo plus messi plus torres plus villa plus silva plus aguero i will still say

    ASHLEY OUT!
    KINNEAR OUT!

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  • Sav

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:41 PM

    Comment #123

    Why is it impossible to believe people who finish up by saying ‘Trust me!’?

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  • Waddle's mullet

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:41 PM

    Comment #124

    wsq

    Do you actually go the games.

    maggie thatcher the milk snatcher!!

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  • Sav

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #125

    I never believe people who finish up with ‘Trust me!’

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  • Sav

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:43 PM

    Comment #126

    Sorry, Waddle’s Mullet, but I can’t believe people who finish up with ‘Trust me!’

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  • micepie

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:44 PM

    Comment #127

    Okay, well at least JK is clear about some of the players he likes and dislikes.

    I don’t know…..if I were manager right now I’d be thinking about bringing in, say, 2 loan players and not selling anyone! Aside from which, it could well be that over time Xisco – and even Gonzales (once fit) – could both become successes for us. If JK gave them belief and faith. Then bring on the youngsters a little more, give them a few minutes here and there, and along with 2 loan signings (1 mf/1 dfd) and we could be alright. Rather than chop and change a lot. It all depends how well we do in buying in January, but it would help if JK has several targets in mind for each position, not just one.

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  • Waddle's mullet

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:45 PM

    Comment #128

    All i can say is…………………………………………………..Taiwo

    Up the poll tax!

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  • wsq

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:49 PM

    Comment #129

    wt f wt f _|_ you waddle

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  • craig chisholm

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:51 PM

    Comment #130

    waddles mullet………..you must be a maken or have been living on another planet since that shithead ashley bought us out. you say ‘when will you lot ever learn’? thats the whole point man, we have learned regarding ashley and his lies, three windows of shit, overall investment on the pitch of net 2 million. yes mate, we have learned, ashey is a wanker and will never invest. there is no need to wait until feb 02nd to know that man. we all know this already. i will tell you what we are gonig to do, try to sell the dross, no-one will buy then, we will sell on shay and zogs and prob anyone else who might fetch a few quid, then we will buy maybe four of five players outlaying less than half what he made on what he has sold, with ashley pocketing the rest – you think i am wrong to pre-judge – watch this space man.

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  • Waddle's mullet

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:52 PM

    Comment #131

    wsq

    I take that as a NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO then.

    But you can say and spout off whatever you like
    that the beauty of this blog.

    good luck in your quest of ashley out.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:54 PM

    Comment #132

    Mullet – Do you know something we dont?

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  • ObaMartins

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:56 PM

    Comment #133

    Listen people Quit whining you saw what Ashley and Co did to Kev Keegan and you wanted to Give Ashley another chance…welcome Championship

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  • Waddle's mullet

    Jan 4, 2009 at 3:58 PM

    Comment #134

    Been told something

    but hey wait till the 2nd of feb and give me a bashing.

    until then who knows could be bull.

    hope not though!!

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  • wsq

    Jan 4, 2009 at 4:04 PM

    Comment #135

    ASHLEY OUT!

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  • murphy

    Jan 4, 2009 at 4:04 PM

    Comment #136

    If we don’t improve our squad in this transfer window then F|*$k fat Ashley. I’ve stood by him long enough thinking he way well dig deep and invest our get Owen on another contract but what do we have?! a bargain basement manager with no funds having to work with nearly a whole team who are unsettled and wishing they’d be allowed to leave. If given goes then so do I, I’ll start supporting cardiff city.

    Ohhh and if he doesn’t invest at least 10 million (A certian James millner comes to mind) I’ll jump on a bus from Wales and come and help protest!

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  • bill

    Jan 4, 2009 at 4:08 PM

    Comment #137

    It looks as though some of you guys are waking up, though some are still slumbering on with blindfolds intact.

    Ashley, will run our club into the ground. He is asset stripping the club.

    I cannot believe how some people are still siding with him considering what has gone on to date. Having said that I also think we have some agent’s provocateurs in our midst.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Jan 4, 2009 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #138

    Mullet – Summarise to me what you have been told. Is it about Taiwo in particular?

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  • Doocey

    Jan 4, 2009 at 4:45 PM

    Comment #139

    murphy // Jan 4, 2009 at 16:04

    If we don’t improve our squad in this transfer window then F|*$k fat Ashley. I’ve stood by him long enough thinking he way well dig deep and invest our get Owen on another contract but what do we have?! a bargain basement manager with no funds having to work with nearly a whole team who are unsettled and wishing they’d be allowed to leave. If given goes then so do I, I’ll start supporting cardiff city.

    Ohhh and if he doesn’t invest at least 10 million (A certian James millner comes to mind) I’ll jump on a bus from Wales and come and help protest!

    I agree mate!

    Howver I still think Kinnear has funds at his disposal, as an early blog entry it had said Kinnear had made enquiries about 4 or 5 lads.
    Now do you do that without anything to back it up, like transfer cash?
    He HAS to have some when he’s looking to players. However when i see loan signings being rejected I do start to wonder.

    Going to remain optimistic that he has money and we’l sign someone very soon of decent quality 🙂

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  • Doocey

    Jan 4, 2009 at 4:48 PM

    Comment #140

    And Mullet please don’t talk rubbish 🙂

    If you actually know something can you tell us please? We need all the hope we can get 🙂

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  • murphy

    Jan 4, 2009 at 4:59 PM

    Comment #141

    yeh it’s up and down with joe! one minute he’s making out we have a fair amount to spend and that no players will be leaving and the next he’s saying he’ll sell 3 for 16 million!!!! we’ve just got to wait and see, perhaps he’s just playing the press to keep people of his scent, and that there’s a few in the pipeline. Ohhh yeah didn’t he say he had a few irons in the fire? surely that means we’ve putting in bids! jesus, why is nothing simple when it comes down to nufc.

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  • Doocey

    Jan 4, 2009 at 5:02 PM

    Comment #142

    Exactly, its too complicated at Newcastle always! I have faith in Kinnear as he’s Irish 😀 however now Rangers said they’ve had no approach from anyone for Ferguson!
    Would that be, because Kinnear ha=s been told the piggy bank is empty?!
    Hopefully not.
    Mullet, you still there ;)?

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  • heavyhitters

    Jan 4, 2009 at 5:04 PM

    Comment #143

    Some Deportivo fans laughed when we bought Xisco and commented that he was the second worst player in their League. It would be nice to see many players off loaded this month. If Taylor is so great surely some of the big four will be ready to lash out 8-10 million on him. I would like to see the back of Nzogbia too, not the player he thinks he is imo. Of late theres only Bassong and Guiterrez whos impressed me, Given goes without saying. As far as who should leave well I’d end up with writers cramp. We are pretty much going to have to start from scratch, Cacapa, Geremi, Smith, Butt, Enrique, Ameobi, Duff, Xisco and dare I say it Taylor arent the answer if we want to make a dent on European places.

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  • Estechco

    Jan 4, 2009 at 5:06 PM

    Comment #144

    Spyro

    Have you seen this page (amongst many others)…

    http://www.deportivo-la-coruna.com/squad/xisco.html

    It would seem an awfully big coincidence if not the same Tony Jimenez!?!

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  • Doocey

    Jan 4, 2009 at 5:07 PM

    Comment #145

    Dent in European places?
    We’re not going to be challenging for Europe my son, not this season, not next!
    Get realisitic, we have to survive a relegation scare yet again this season and unless there are major changes towards the end of this season it will remain the same old, same old as much as I hate saying it 🙁

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  • Waddle's mullet

    Jan 4, 2009 at 5:10 PM

    Comment #146

    why would ashley asset strip a £250 million investment.

    so what you are saying sell everyone might get £100 million
    he paid £134 million for the club
    club still owe him £100 million.

    how on earth is the club with no assets give him his money back!!

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  • Doocey

    Jan 4, 2009 at 5:14 PM

    Comment #147

    Good point Waddle Mullet.
    But can you please elaborate on your statement about “pleasant surprise”?

    You have made me a little excited inside amongst the doom and gloom 😀

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  • Nick 69

    Jan 4, 2009 at 5:15 PM

    Comment #148

    estecho – it is not the same tony jimenez, the tony jimenez who was at the toon is not spanish for starters, and he is not an agent either, he was a property developer who had contacts in the game through property deals.

    but xisco is crap and is not up to the premiership, no pace, no strength, crap 1st touch, and backs out of challenges, i know i dont want someone in a relegation battle who offers pretty much nothing to the team!!

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  • Estechco

    Jan 4, 2009 at 5:19 PM

    Comment #149

    Nick 69/Spyro:

    How can you be so sure? We live in a global village these days. Brothers are allowed to be born in different countries.

    Anyhow. One transfer, involving two guys called Tony bleeding Jimenez. I smell a rat the size of MA’s rear end!

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  • Doocey

    Jan 4, 2009 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #150

    Nick69, wrong (about Xisco)

    He is a talent, believe me.
    He was barely let go at Deportivo and he kept them from relegation.
    He scored 5 goals in 2 games to heave them from the relegation zone and continued to impress.
    He is rated 88/100 on World ratings, (done by former footballers like Alan Shearer, Lee Dixon etc) and thats not bad for a guy who sits on the bench all the time.

    Saying that he obiously isin’t impressing in training for Kinnear to play him.
    however I would like to see him play more regularly and see what he’s really made of.
    You can only really judge a player from 10- 15 games IMO.

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  • Waddle's mullet

    Jan 4, 2009 at 5:25 PM

    Comment #151

    Like i said before heard a little whisper about taiwo and think its a goer.

    But if it doesn’t happen what a bummer.

    But i would believe a few whispers than the bullsh!tting press.

    Doocey

    we were suprised that jonas come in and approaches for modric and amiar had been made but for the latter two the terms were agreed but for them to pull the plug and go else where.

    So we just have to wait and see.

    I am pretty confident though.

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  • Tom_Toon

    Jan 4, 2009 at 5:27 PM

    Comment #152

    Waddle – Any timescale or fee involved with Taiwo, or mumbles from the player, if he’d want to come etc?

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  • Waddle's mullet

    Jan 4, 2009 at 5:31 PM

    Comment #153

    Tom course he wants to come.
    one of his best mates plays at right back for us.

    And his other mate plays for the scum.

    I hope its quick though before someone else nips in and gets him.

    One problem with public enemy number two (Mr wise) he seems to take a while to get them after terms are agreed.

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  • Doocey

    Jan 4, 2009 at 5:32 PM

    Comment #154

    Thanks for that Mullet however I not holding my breath on it (just yet)

    I’m not sure how you woul know either unles you are a secretary at St.James’ Park, groundsman or a vital part of Newcastle.

    or………………………….Mayeb you’re Mike Ashley!!!!!!! lol

    Hope you’re right abot Taiwo and I like the sound of you, I would liek to talk a little more about this scenario if you were willing 🙂 My MSN is doocey21@hotmail.com if you would be interested in talking about it or indeed anyone else here who’s a Toon fan 🙂

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  • Waddle's mullet

    Jan 4, 2009 at 5:39 PM

    Comment #155

    Got the same gut as mike!!

    Just wish people on here would take a step back and let the so called enemy (wise and ash) to get on with it.

    They will back the manager but only the right type of player and cost of course.

    a day before the window was open the village idiots were calling for their heads.

    Get a grip.

    wsq

    Say no to Decimalisation!!!

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  • adam

    Jan 4, 2009 at 5:40 PM

    Comment #156

    its simple get rid of the usless waste of space ashley thats the only prob with the club he dont got a clue we already got small side he promised to take us foreward and now we haveto sell good players to get more not so good what a fucking joke and wheres the money from the mlner sale i fear for my club think we need some divine intervention something got to give or we going to end up out the premirship

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  • Doocey

    Jan 4, 2009 at 5:42 PM

    Comment #157

    You’re as big as MA?:O
    WOAH!!!!!!
    Joking, certainly hope you’re right mate and I agree with you.
    I have never dogged into Mike Ashley as I want to give him a chance but when keegan departed I really questioned the ownership and public enemy number 2 Denis Wise.

    Did you add me 😛

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  • Waddle's mullet

    Jan 4, 2009 at 5:47 PM

    Comment #158

    I am abit old for that msn mate.

    But will keep posting about any whispers and hope everyone else will as its better than reading the crap in the press.

    by the way anal oliver is writing for the
    sunday people now!

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  • Doocey

    Jan 4, 2009 at 5:56 PM

    Comment #159

    Not problem mate 🙂

    Thanks for giving us some hope amongst the doom and gloom that the press tirarde against us 🙂

    Keep updating us and if you are right about the Taiwo transfer then I would nearly send you a cheque lol!

    If you’re talking bull then I’ll add you to my enemys list lol!

    Taiwo scenario the only one in the pipeline?:)

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  • Waddle's mullet

    Jan 4, 2009 at 6:01 PM

    Comment #160

    I would be amazed if we don’t get an attacking midfielder.

    and no all this bull about us being a selling club we are not!
    Its the players who want to go so why keep them?

    Charlie has been want to go for a year now so enough is enough let him go once the replacement is in.

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