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WBA vs Newcastle – Match Preview


Tomorrow’s game at the Hawthorns should see a stronger Newcastle side, both on the field and on the bench, for some time.

Joe has new players Kevin Nolan, Ryan Taylor and Peter Lovenkrands to choose from and in addition we are told returning from injury are Oba Martins, Alan Smith and Mark Viduka, and Joe says all of the latter three will be in the squad tomorrow.

Newcastle have not won in their last 8 games, but that has coincided with another terrible set of injuries, and indeed we are still missing Habib Beye, (a big miss) Michael Owen, Danny Guthrie, Claudio Cacapa  (is he ever fit?), loan signing Ignacio Gonzalez, who’s appeared precisely twice this season as a sub, and promising youngster Tamas Kadar, who is back in Hungary after breaking his leg in  January.

Jonas Gutierrez, our Argentine winger also is serving a one match ban for receiving 5 yellow cards and is not available.

The Newcastle section at the Hawthorns will have the maximum allowed, as all 1800 tickets have been sold.

And there could be some trouble with the weather with snow being on the ground, but the WBA ground staff say the game will go ahead as long as there is no deterioration in the weather overnight.

The ground has underground heating and playing surface should be OK. Tomorrow’s forecast for Birmingham has it sunny and clear. The 24 hour forecast has it clear from 3:00pm this afternoon, so the game should be on.

This is an important game for Newcastle, but so is every other one this season, but this is rather special since it’s against the team that are currently bottom of the league, and a team that is coming off a 3-1 defeat at Burnley in mid-week in the FA Cup.

A win tomorrow will lighten the spirits of Newcastle fans big time, but a defeat is almost unthinkable.

One interesting facet of the game tomorrow is what the Newcastle team will be what Joe will pick as the starting eleven, and where specifically he will play utility man Ryan Taylor.

Since Jonas is out, it’s likely Joe will plump for Ryan starting on the right wing, with Damien Duff on the other flank, so this is what we see as the team tomorrow:

Taylor (S)  Coloccini Bassong Enrique
Taylor (R) Butt Nolan Duff
Carroll Martins
Subs: Krul Edgar LuaLua Viduka Smith Geremi Ameobi

We’d like to see a Carroll – Martins partnership up front, and we think that’s what Joe will go for, because young Andy Carroll is showing good form.

Joe also wants a settled defense and that back four is probably the best we can put out until Beye returns. Enrique or Steven Taylor of  course can be replaced by Ryan Taylor, but Joe may want to use Ryan up front. to get a few goals, especially from his free kicks, and via his long throw-ins.

With the bottom section of the table being so crowded, a win could take us up to 12th in the Premier League, if other results go right for us. But since WBA are just two points behind us on 22 points, a defeat will take WBA above us, something we don’t even want to think about.

In fact we could even be propping up the table depending on other results, but fear can be a great motivator, and we’re sure Joe will let the players know we just have to win tomorrow.

WBA manager Tony Mowbray has yet to decide whether to start new signings Youssouf  Mulumbu and Juan Carlos Menseguez in the game. Both players were brought in on loan earlier this week and could make their first-team debuts tomorrow.

But it looks like Mowbray will start both on the bench tomorrow.

West Brom have never beaten Newcastle United in the Premier League, and we don’t want to break that streak tomorrow, that’s for sure.

It’s a great opportunity to break out from the relegation worries, at least as a first step, and we have to go all out for a win. and not sit back and defend, if we happen to get a goal ahead.

It’s certainly going to be a nervous game to watch for most Newcastle fans, that’s for sure.

Howay The Lads!!

Comments very welcome.

55 comments so far

  • Wigaz

    Feb 6, 2009 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #1

    We need to Win this game! Really hope now bad mood Charlie & unsettled Shay have gone that the team spirit is right. Tell you what be nice if we get a free kick near goal now. Step ur Ryan taylor. Think he may take corners too he’s got good delivery from them. My prediction 2-1 Martins & Nolan. COMON TOON!!!!

  • The Real Entertainers

    Feb 6, 2009 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #2

    Before the Blackburn game i had a bad feeling and believed we could get beat 3-0 !…… the rest is history

    Well that feeling is back !

    My head (which is confused and clouded when thinking about Newcastle ) says we’ll get beat 2-1

    My heart says 9-0 win ! 😉

    But if you pin me down to a prediction, i’d go 2-1, to either team….ha ha

  • Ed Harrison

    Feb 6, 2009 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #3

    Wigaz – hope so!!!

  • Mark_S

    Feb 6, 2009 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #4

    As long as we dont sit back… the last game we played against them, we kept the ball on the ground and were 2 – 0 up at half time, then we started to drop deep to maintain the lead and it nearly cost us.. don’t make the same mistake again Joe, there back 4 is rubbish.. attack attack attack..

  • bennytoon

    Feb 6, 2009 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #5

    The biggest game of the season for both clubs. Lose this and your in a massive relegation scrap. Win and you only move up one place. West brom added a few new players in the window and i think they are better than there position suggests. I think it will be a 2-2 draw.

  • RyanToon

    Feb 6, 2009 at 12:08 PM

    Comment #6

    head says 1-1, heart says 2-1 toon

  • The Real Entertainers

    Feb 6, 2009 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #7

    Thats a terrible last post from myself, i apologise.

    Tough times at the moment.

    My fear is WBA will view the game as a must win and JFK will view it as a most not lose.

    I’m hoping the news boys, yes we did make signings during the window, will make a positive difference.

    I completely agree with Eds line up and am looking foward to seeing Taylor throwing crosses over from the right and hopefully Enrique producing the same from the left, big Andy knocking them down for Oba to do the rest.

    As Joe always is away from home i expect a solid and dull first half and if we go in 0-0 he’ll be happy. Then 2nd half throw on the likes of Viduka and go for it.

  • RyanToon

    Feb 6, 2009 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #8

    my head predictions

    west brom 1-1 newcastle
    newcastle 2-1 everton
    bolton 1-1 newcastle
    newcastle 0-3 man utd

  • bennytoon

    Feb 6, 2009 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #9

    you could in all honesty get nil points from those games. i think you will get 1

  • RyanToon

    Feb 6, 2009 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #10

    r.taylor 1st goal and 1-1 is 60/1 with corals, might do it 🙂

  • Johno Toon

    Feb 6, 2009 at 12:26 PM

    Comment #11

    cant see anything other than 3 points 2moro to be honest

  • Toon Graeme

    Feb 6, 2009 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #12

    Well Ive cleared the afternoon, sending the Mrs to the shops and will bribe the son with chocolate and Lazytown to leave me free to lie on the settee and watch the match on the lappy.

    Confidence is high for me so I am gonna but a bet on the toon to win.

  • SuperShearer

    Feb 6, 2009 at 12:34 PM

    Comment #13

    Loose this game and I think we’re heading down, win it and we could put a win together. The truth is that we have to go for a win, in all of our games really a draws won’t keep us in league. Nolan and Taylor are both fighters and add to that S. Taylor’s love for Newcastle and what he has been saying this week he will be really up for it. I will be crossing everything and hoping for a win.

  • The Real Entertainers

    Feb 6, 2009 at 12:34 PM

    Comment #14

    More JFK LIES:

    “I had to raise my own transfer funds through selling other players which was not ideal but we just had to get on with it. The credit crunch has hit us hard.”




    JFK OUT !

  • Toon Graeme

    Feb 6, 2009 at 12:39 PM

    Comment #15


    I said that in another thread.

    The man comes out with so much, It hard to know what is real or not. JFk is a liability at times with his gobsh*te he comes out with.

    I cant wait for the Q&A results with LLambiarse.

    Hope they will be out tomorrow.

  • Macas35

    Feb 6, 2009 at 12:42 PM

    Comment #16

    Entertainers – Unfortunately I dont think its JFK thats the problem, he has the difficult job of being the buffer between the fans and the lying fat toad that owns us.


    Feb 6, 2009 at 12:43 PM

    Comment #17

    The 10 million never existed-it only existed if Given and N’Zogbia were sold. If you are absolutely sure you are going to sell players then you can put in bids. What the credit crunch has got to do with it i have no idea-dont think Mike is down to his last 10m.
    He should have said because the players at this club earn over inflated wages-some of which were awarded by the current regime-all out turnover is eaten up by wages and there is nothing left for transfers and Mike wont put his hand in his pocket.
    Then again he cant say that can he.

  • leekirtley

    Feb 6, 2009 at 12:51 PM

    Comment #18

    i reacon we will win tommrow 2-0 i think we will walk over them and i think nolan will score first. i think the team will be right up for it and i think they now after the transfers with the help of nolan, become a far stronger unit

  • bowburnmag

    Feb 6, 2009 at 12:54 PM

    Comment #19

    I’ve been as pessimistic (realistic) as the next grumpy barsteward recently and I felt this could go the way I imagined Pompey would, i.e. tough side playing at home and we’d get beat. I was pleasantly surprised then. Now with numbers back, a couple of recruits and WBA struggling with their own issues I can see us coming away 3-1 winners provided it goes ahead. Hopefully my predictions won’t work in reverse. H’way lads.

  • murphy

    Feb 6, 2009 at 1:02 PM

    Comment #20

    I don’t think collocini will start and I think Caroll might be a doubt my guess is we’ll play :-


    with Smith coming on for shola in the 92nd minute.

  • clinta

    Feb 6, 2009 at 1:03 PM

    Comment #21

    Ryan taylor only scores goals against our miserable defence doesn’t he? so I’d be careful of expecting a too many from him this season.

    A draw written all over this game for me, and a scrappy one at that.

  • leekirtley

    Feb 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #22

    murph you could be rite whats with jfk ameobi love

  • bowburnmag

    Feb 6, 2009 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #23

    clinta – I agree on that. I hope people don’t expect miracles from him just because of his perverse knack of stitching us up on a reguar basis. It’s not likely to happen. However, I look forward to direct and indirect assists from corners, free-kicks and throw-ins. He is fairly lethal (relatively speaking) at all of those.

  • Craigg

    Feb 6, 2009 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #24

    ==R Taylor==Butt==Nolan==Duff==

    Subs: Krul, Edgar, Geremi, Lovenkrands, Viduka, Ameobi

    2-1 Martins and Nolan.

    Im really looking forward to the Taylor combo down the right and hopefully Jose and Jonas on the left in the coming weeks.

    Does anyone know when Beye is back ?

  • leekirtley

    Feb 6, 2009 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #25

    the thing i liked about signing ryan taylor was the gerimi the big clown will no longer take any free kicks.

  • ObaMartins

    Feb 6, 2009 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #26

    murphy are you irish by anychance as you have Ameobi to start ?

  • coyote

    Feb 6, 2009 at 1:25 PM

    Comment #27

    must win
    I’m working in baggies country and defeat is unthinkable
    I’d have to find a new place to drink and the stick would be unbearable
    can’t see 0-0 with the worst defenses in the league
    hope for 2-1 or 2-0 for us
    up the toon

  • ACD

    Feb 6, 2009 at 1:27 PM

    Comment #28

    Hope martins is back and fit enough to start because with carroll and ameobi upfront we lack any sort of movement and pace.

    Also hope collocini is fit enough to play, he’s been through a sticky patch lately but i have no doubt he will be a great player for us, he is a proven defencer who has done it on the international stage. So lets get behind him and not get on his back!!

    I think we need to win this game but i am not confident. Hopefully the lads will at least show grit and determination (even if we got 1-0 down) and then u never know, we might be able to knick the win!

    haway the lads!

  • ObaMartins

    Feb 6, 2009 at 1:36 PM

    Comment #29

    Best quote of the year so far >>>Charles N’Zogbia has suggested managing Newcastle is beyond the ability of boss Joe Kinnear<<<<100% correct in my opinion

  • Tom_Toon

    Feb 6, 2009 at 1:40 PM

    Comment #30

    I fancy a 2-0 win for us wkith a goal in the first 25 and we dominate the rest of the game but miss loads of chances, but finally score our second just after 85 mins.

    I like Ed’s line-up although I’d drop Duff for Lovekrands or Lualua, however it wont happen and I expect the dinosaur to play Ameobi over Carroll.

  • ronaldeano

    Feb 6, 2009 at 1:44 PM

    Comment #31


    How many poins will spurs get on Sunday?



  • Darling27

    Feb 6, 2009 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #32

    Team For Tomorrow

    R. Taylor
    S. Taylor

    2-1 To The Toon

  • murphy

    Feb 6, 2009 at 1:54 PM

    Comment #33

    @ Oba martins – Born in newcastle, bred in Cardiff, Irish familly.

    Pretty sure he’ll start to be honest as joe likes the big man small man tactic and with Caroll a doubt, smith and viduka not 100% match fit, I recon he’ll start. Come on the Toon!!! 3-1 martins for hatrick.

  • Green1607

    Feb 6, 2009 at 1:55 PM

    Comment #34





    Nolan for captain!

    Subs: Krul, Edgar, Butt, Smith, Viduka, Geremi

  • Pons Aelius

    Feb 6, 2009 at 1:57 PM

    Comment #35

    Why do people put Ameobi in their starting line ups?

    He’s not first team material. If there’s anything the mackem game showed, it showed that Ameobi has no pace and can’t finish. To be fair it was a well taken pen, but that was honestly the only positive thing I noticed all game.

    For me I’d play Martins and Carroll – no question.

  • catchy in norway

    Feb 6, 2009 at 1:57 PM

    Comment #36

    anyone who say bambi should be in the team should be baned from this site.

    HE IS SH*T

  • catchy in norway

    Feb 6, 2009 at 1:58 PM

    Comment #37

    well said pons aelius.

    we think alike

  • Pons Aelius

    Feb 6, 2009 at 2:00 PM

    Comment #38

    If not Carroll why not Lovenkrands? Anybody but Shola!

    (I know I’m being harsh, but come on, he’s not very good is he?)

  • Tom_Toon

    Feb 6, 2009 at 2:00 PM

    Comment #39

    Ameobi will play, dont want him to though.

  • Toronto_Toon

    Feb 6, 2009 at 2:01 PM

    Comment #40

    Toon win – 2-0. Despite all the negativity, the new buys are ones with good character who will fit in quickly. They’ll avoid the drop.

    It’s a must win match though.

    Any news on that Brazilian kid, Caio Ferreira? Did he really fail to get a work permit?


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