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Are Arsenal After Krul?



There is a report today that Arsenal are inquiring about the availability of Newcastle goalkeeper Tim Krul.

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Tim Krul-Surely Newcastle’s keeper of the future


There have been reports in the past that Tim Krul was unhappy with his place at Newcastle. However that was before Newcastle sold the great Shay Given. Thanks Mike. Now with Tim Krul firmly planted as the number 2 to Steve Harper, he is regarded as the future goalkeeper of Newcastle.

So reports that Arsenal are sniffing around to see if Newcastle would be willing to discuss offloading the 21-year-old are highly questionable. But Tim Krul is a very ambitious youngster so you never know if he would be interested in joining Arsenal despite penning a new four year deal just last year. The figure being quoted is around £3M

To be honest, I’m surprised many teams don’t inquire about our best youngsters. There is no way of knowing what Mike Ashley could do. He could see the sale of promising youngsters as a way of making money before he bolts. Though he would then have to sell Newcastle at a very cut rate price because the fans and the youngsters are all Newcastle have at the moment.


36 comments so far

  • baro

    Jul 29, 2009 at 2:49 AM

    Comment #1

    I swear 2 god tim krul is better than any Newcastle keeper at the moment. If we loose him I will probably never pay attention to Newcastle again. This guy is an beast. I think Tim Krul is going 2 stay because arsenal have 3 keepers fighting 4 number 2spot. Tim Krul was a killer at uefa cup game against Palermo

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  • baro

    Jul 29, 2009 at 2:52 AM

    Comment #2

    So it is real Madrid and AC Milan after Haris Vuckic. And Arsenal after Tim Krul. That tells you these 2 youngsters have something in them

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  • baro

    Jul 29, 2009 at 2:55 AM

    Comment #3

    I think next is Barcelona after Bradden Inman. And Manchester United after Nile Ranger if this progress continues.

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  • Aussie Magpie Fan

    Jul 29, 2009 at 3:28 AM

    Comment #4

    Come on ED!! I have to say you really like stiring the pot don’t you. Why the hell would Mike Ashley sell all the younsters???.. He has an over inflated wage bill attached to the “1st” team that he has to reduce and you start stoking the fires with wild speculation about him selling off all our youngsters instead. Let’s say he went down this route! How much do you think he is going to get for unproven youngsters that have played a handful of youth and reserve grade games! Not much at all!!.They are only going to be worth something when they start playing and performing in the senior squad. And to add to that. What makes you think that all of the top teams that are willing to spend money don’t already have a host of top youngsters at their disposal??. I think that at the moment there are enough frayed nerves and tempers regarding the state of our club without adding to it with articles like this. To me all you are doing is trying for a reaction and no doubt you will get one from some. How about some positive blogs mate. Surely there should be something out there to post about??

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  • Rangerman

    Jul 29, 2009 at 5:28 AM

    Comment #5

    The story is from the daily Mail which has lost all credibility since the ‘Kinnear to return tomorrow’ crap.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if they are after him an I wouldn’t blame him for going, this season should be used to bring through players like him so that he can claim the number one spot as his own, not be a back up player in the Championship to an average keeper in his mid 30’s.

    Not that he would be first choice at Arsenal but at least Wenger does give him young players plenty of chances in cup competitions, Krul hasn’t played a competitive game for us since his debut.

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  • Raffo

    Jul 29, 2009 at 6:13 AM

    Comment #6

    I agree that Krul should be blooded this season as our No 1. Harps has been loyal but Krul is the future and I would rather get him playing and tied down with a long contract, much like vuckic and ranger but I am afraid that everyone will be up for grabs after this week. I hope we sell Oba asap and Smith to get the wage bill down a bit, but we will still be paying 40-60% of their wages anyway which just shows what a total mess we are in.

    My hope of a sale are dwindling as the hours go by and I wont listen to anymore rubbish comments on here bout ‘insider knowledge’!

    Im quite appalled that I was sucked in a couple of times. Desperation does weird things to a man!

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  • UTD111

    Jul 29, 2009 at 7:03 AM

    Comment #7

    It would be sad if Krul or any of the younger players with potential were allowed to leave.

    If we are to have a future (and its a big “if” with the barrowboy in charge) – then these kids are it………

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  • Stuart79

    Jul 29, 2009 at 7:38 AM

    Comment #8

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jul/28/newcastle-unitied-mike-ashey-takeover

    This is probably the first positive article she has ever written.

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  • lesh

    Jul 29, 2009 at 8:06 AM

    Comment #9

    Folloing hot on the heels of Stuart79’s link, the Grauniad seem to be running a Newcastle United supplement today.

    This one seems to be seeing the fans from a different perspective than the rest of the anti-NUFC press….

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/jul/29/newcastle-united-championship-fans-plight

    Mr Ashley, please take note and wake up to the damage you’ve done!!!

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  • lesh

    Jul 29, 2009 at 8:09 AM

    Comment #10

    And for good measure, they’re reporting Spurs to chase (unsettle) Bassong!

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  • lesh

    Jul 29, 2009 at 8:12 AM

    Comment #11

    Even in the Sun…… one thing’s for sure, Ashely’s certainly put us on the map!

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2560211/Al-be-back-on-the-box.html

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  • lesh

    Jul 29, 2009 at 8:15 AM

    Comment #12

    Last one before having a cup of tea……

    Drawing a parallel with Leeds United’s insolvency, I can see a common factor between them and us.

    Why, I wonder is Dennis Wise still receiving £20k a week?

    Didn’t Ken Bates instal Wise as Leeds Manager after it’s venture into administration?

    Coincidence or not?

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  • Nick D

    Jul 29, 2009 at 8:26 AM

    Comment #13

    Aussie magpie fan I think the article is by Neil, not ED.

    By all means sell off our deadwood (and their wages) that no one would miss, but please not KRUL, the best young keeper in the world.
    We should have kept Edgar as well.

    People at NUFC have always been so scared of giving youth a chance and are still prepared to watch our has – beens fail week in week out with their lifeless, uncommitted performances

    If stupid Ashley got rid of this sales embargo, we could be getting rid of the people who are running the club in to the ground and couldn’t give a rats:-

    Nolan – Replace with ?
    Geremi, – Replace with Lua Lua
    Smith – Replace with anyone !!!!!!!!
    Duff – Replace with Ferguson
    Butt – Replace with Guthrie
    Barton – Replace with Vuksic
    Guti – Replace with Inman
    Colo – Replace with Kadar
    Xisco – Replace with Carroll
    Martins – Replace with Ranger

    Also if AS doesn’t get the manager’s gig, why not promote Money from the youth team or even, dare I say it, Calderwood, as Hughton just can not cut it.

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  • Raffo

    Jul 29, 2009 at 8:26 AM

    Comment #14

    Lesh, good article in post 9 mate.

    I hope tonight is constructive and i hope they are there to view it, though would demo’s etc be counter-productive should potential buyers be around?

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  • lesh

    Jul 29, 2009 at 8:38 AM

    Comment #15

    Yeh Raffo, a positive article for once…. I get the imoression that the media’s woken up that te club’s plight isn’t funny and that Newcastle fans need the support of other fans – not p*** taking by the likes of that cretin of a man citeh fan…whatever his/ her name is!

    Your point about a demo’s important and I take your point that there needs to be some form of demonstration of loyalty to the club, perhaps the form of pleading for a saviour rather than a hostile anti-Ashley rant.

    Let any owner know that the fans are 110% commited to the club, supportive of the players on the field and not a group to be feared.

    A tricky one but not beyond the wit of our wonderful supporters.

    The player need you guys so give ’em all you’ve got…. it is important.

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  • Nobby_Long

    Jul 29, 2009 at 8:42 AM

    Comment #16

    The Mirror are running an article this morning calling on Ashley to sort this mess out & either back the club or sell it asap.

    Its about time one of the papers did this, but it should have been the Journal & Chronicle that have been pushing this……frankly they have been a disgrace.

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  • magforlife

    Jul 29, 2009 at 8:51 AM

    Comment #17

    Will be interesting to see if any of the board are at tonights game and what reaction they will get. This may take the heat off the players and surely they will get their fingers out.
    I try to ignore the press but the thought of Hughton in charge for the season( aye, next Saturday) fills me with dread together with Ameobi leading the line ahead of Butt/Nolan with Coco at the back.
    Until they have all gone i wont be going back!

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  • Raffo

    Jul 29, 2009 at 8:52 AM

    Comment #18

    Agreed, i thought the journal were going to be doing this. But also the NUST. They have been shouting aload and are having meetings and roadshows etc but what are they doing.trying to do? I dont know and i dont think that has anything to do with the fact i live near sheffield. I am not sure with your point on demo’s and supporters Lesh. It is a shame but everytime something happens SSN always interview the idiots and show the stupid idiotic messages.

    I agree that it should be of support and pleading for rescue, which is something the NUST and Journal/Chronicle couldve engineered

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  • Raffo

    Jul 29, 2009 at 9:09 AM

    Comment #19

    Nobby, do you have a link I cant see it online. Dont know how old it is but they also say Leics are bidding for K Phillips, what a signing he would be for us if we could get him. A very good championship player

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  • lesh

    Jul 29, 2009 at 9:11 AM

    Comment #20

    Stardust, if you’re with us at this unearthly hour, a serious invititation to share your sagacity with us.

    We know your views on the ‘mob’ but I trust you’d agree that fans have got to devise a strategy to get a peacefully delivered message across to the palyers and any prospective buyer.

    That being so, any suggestions on the tactics to best employ?

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  • lesh

    Jul 29, 2009 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #21

    Raffo @18, you’re dead right about the press picking out the dead-heads among the fans….. and that is counterproductive as is a mob-like demo.

    To answer your question though, I’ve no suggestions other than get behind the team and keep off Ashley’s back – he’ll work it to advantage if the fans do get at him

    The only answer is support the players and show a potential buyer just what a great asset the fabs are to the club.

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  • lesh

    Jul 29, 2009 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #22

    And yet another denying administartion – three bidders this time and Ashley seems determined to nail the rumour down!

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/newcastle/article6731008.ece

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  • Raffo

    Jul 29, 2009 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #23

    Well I hope those going tonight do something productive, but my heads telling me they wont!

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  • Raffo

    Jul 29, 2009 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #25

    Also back on the subject of Krul, didnt he turn down a move back to Holland with Ajax or Feyenord last season to stay with us? Surely now he’s No2 with a longer season he is justified in staying with us for more games?

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  • sahota

    Jul 29, 2009 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #26

    I have now almost lost hope of anything happening anytime in next week or so. It would be great surprise if anything happens. I can also see from number of comments on here that everyone is feeling down. Its been hard time from last couple of months.

    Mike please go away and sell us to someone who cares.

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  • ian

    Jul 29, 2009 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #27

    He has to deny administration, he has to demonstrate that he tried everything else, otherwise he is engineering a write off of liabilities at the cost of other parties, which you arent allowed to do.

    However this time Ashley may just get too clever for his own good as he has built up a lot of enemies with his reckless behaviour in the past and questions have been asked about his dealings before.

    If he did something smart again he could trigger a full investigation this time.

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  • magforlife

    Jul 29, 2009 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #28

    Ashley is no different from SJH, Westwood, McKeag, Seymour etc and what hurts them most is if the merchandising and ticket sales drop, as this has a massive effect on the clubs cashflow, i can see immense pressure on Ashley to sell.
    Little snippets are being released through the more reputable sources of Geroge Caulkin and David Craig at SSN which indicate that the sale could be imminent, hopefully this will happen before the season kicks off.

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  • Raffo

    Jul 29, 2009 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #29

    Has DG been on SSN today? Im finishing work in 10mins so will try and get home to see it. Isnt it quiet on here at mo!

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  • Stardust

    Jul 29, 2009 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #30

    “lesh // Jul 29, 2009 at 9:11 AM

    “Stardust, if you’re with us at this unearthly hour, a serious invititation to share your sagacity with us.

    We know your views on the ‘mob’ but I trust you’d agree that fans have got to devise a strategy to get a peacefully delivered message across to the palyers and any prospective buyer.

    That being so, any suggestions on the tactics to best employ?”

    To be fair Lesh your points above are bang on. I know many believe I think Ashley cant do wrong – that is not the case – I have simply tried to restore balance to a viewpoint that was destroying our club.

    I have always stood by the fact our fans are our biggest strength and weakness.

    Your point about a demo’s important and I take your point “that there needs to be some form of demonstration of loyalty to the club, perhaps the form of pleading for a saviour rather than a hostile anti-Ashley rant.”

    “Let any owner know that the fans are 110% commited to the club, supportive of the players on the field and not a group to be feared.”

    is well founded. I argued a few weeks ago that our current collective mindset may well cost AS the managers job as any “investor” would want to know they controlled their own destiny.

    I actually think that what is needed is a new way forward which would include a representative supporters group (not NUSC who in my opinion embarrass us all by taking a one sided view) who are vociferous and will work “with” the club and communicate with its own following in a constructive way. NUSC has been vociferous but they have made poor point after poor point, were formed out of fury and now have no real direction other than an egotists roadshow.

    However my thoughts on that view point are based on the here and now – in time with a communicative manager and board those things may not be needed and the lessons of today will see balance restored.

    In addition the club should hold its own roadshows – telling the fans at grass roots about the club and what is happening, giving player updates, youth development reports, meet the players etc etc. That would ensure that the fans felt they belonged and likewise the board would listen to concerns and address them – likewise it would erode the tittle tattle of the press and gain real grass root level support.

    I think our problems as fans are deep rooted, we need to accept the notion of building a club and earning success ( I accept we have waited a long time but our new post 90’s KK has been all damaging and has been exploited by all – I am talking board members who took our cash with trophy signings that werent paid for, about the press who whip us into a maelstrom to sell papers etc). And personally I dont want a Man City scenario so when the owner goes we are really in trouble financially as opposed to a storm in a teapot right now.

    I think that we have great people in the area, and I actually think after this process we will all have learned collectively of the value of the club going forward.

    That will be our biggest lesson I just hope folks do learn from what has happened. Owners/Managers must have the right to manage the club – their interests are aligned with ours – success brings rewards to all sides – if fans stick by their bargain to support the club not to try and manage it without facts to support conclusions, we can become a force again.

    I suppose what I am trying to say is Fans should be Fans, Owners – Owners – Managers – Managers – each should know their own place but be aware of what the others are trying to achieve – openly and honestly – just talk and listen to each other – you might find youre all on the same side after all.

    By the way Lesh – love the word Sagacity lol

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  • lesh

    Jul 29, 2009 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #31

    Wonder if the white sheet/ banner brigade might show something like this tonight?

    “Will somebody please rescue this club and help it realise its true potential”

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  • Toon Graeme

    Jul 29, 2009 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #32

    Lesh and Stardust

    If owt happens tonight at the friendly – I echo that it should be about being behind the team – not for Ashley to do one.

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  • Gary77

    Jul 29, 2009 at 12:29 PM

    Comment #33

    I find it strange that for weeks we have waited for some news about the sale of the club then the night we have our 1st home game we are getting reasured about the sale and adminastration etc, could it be that ashley is scared the fans might turn on the board at tonights game and call him and his brainless lap dog a few names. Also I couldnt believe what i was seeing when i watched goal 3 last night and there he was the man who cant say a single word to the fans was mouthing off swear words in the movie

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  • dave 1961

    Jul 29, 2009 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #34

    We need to get behind the team now any protest will be counterproductive, we have the moral high ground let’s not lose it, just in case there could be a potential buyer out there we are some of the best supporter in football our loyalty is beyond compare, & if Ashley can’t sell we need him sitting in the stadium this is the only way he will fund the club, let’s face it & I am sure he will never fund a club he can’t even go to, it’s our birth right to support the Toon it cost Ashley 250 mil, let’s be magnanimous not small minded. The national press are on our side now let’s show them tonight alls we want is someone to run the club properly & shearer as manager. Then you will get the time needed to rebuild and still have a full house.

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  • lesh

    Jul 29, 2009 at 2:27 PM

    Comment #35

    Thanks for coming back with a sagacious post!

    I agree with your position and yes, there is a need for the club to involve the fans more and extend itself into the community by communicating with the aim of building support, customer buy-in.

    The whole success or otherwise depends on commonness of purpose, honesty and pride. With those, the club can become great but it’ll take a lot of time to achieve that.

    On an off-topic note, perhaps folk have seen you as an Ashley apologist because your views have tended towards him. Just thought I’d pass on a view on that but please try not to sound so pompous – you’re not doing your undoubted wisdom any good in others’ eyes.

    Think about it eh?

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  • lesh

    Jul 29, 2009 at 2:28 PM

    Comment #36

    Whoops…. post 34 was addressed to Stardust

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