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Newcastle Stay Committed To Strong Youth Policy

The two things we’ve actually liked that owner Mike Ashley has done since he arriving on Tyneside is building a youth policy and also expanding the world wide scouting system of the Newcastle club.

Mike Ashley – will continue building Youth system at Newcastle

News yesterday that Newcastle will continue to invest in Newcastle’s Youth policy and will shape the club around the model Arsenal have been so successful with over the last several years.

Newcastle are already seeing results form the Youth Policy with the youngsters in the last four of the FA Youth Cup this season, and youngsters like Tamas Kadar, Tim Krul, Fraser Forster, Andy Carroll, Nile Ranger and Haris Vuckic are already coming through well at present.

And some good news about Vuckic, our Slovenian U21 attacking midfielder, who is still only 17 years old.

Haris could make his comeback from injury on Tuesday night when Newcastle Reserves take on Whitley Bay at Hillheads Park (7.30 pm).   And Joey Barton may even play in some part of that game.

The Slovenian, signed in January of last year, has been out injured since last October with knee and ankle problems, and of course Joey has also been out since last October with his foot injury.

As well as the young lads doing well on Tyneside, the scouting system has unearthed some good buys in the last season or two.

Certainly Sebastien Bassong, now at Tottenham, was one of the best buys Newcastle ever made.

Seb wanted to stay in the Premiership and was sold to Tottenham last summer for almost an £8M profit – and that was in just 10 months.

Of course, we’d prefer the good players to stay at the club, and it seems like Danny Simpson, Mike Williamson and Wayne Routledge are three good buys made in January, as each one of them is a current starter at Newcastle.

We look forward to the summer when we expect to see more savvy signings, and also bring more top youngsters into the club.

And it looks very likely that Chris Hughton will try to bring in at least two top youngsters to Newcastle on season long loan deals, from some of the top clubs.

Right now it seems that Tom Cleverley of Manchester United, currently on loan at Watford, and Jack Wilshere of Arsenal, currently on loan at Bolton, are two players Chris likes a lot.

We reported yesterday that Tom Cleverley is a player Hughton is very interested in bringing to Newcastle for next seaosn.

Comments welome.

29 comments so far

  • marsbar

    Mar 7, 2010 at 12:27 PM

    Comment #1

    Bassong, one of the best signings we ever made??? Come on Ed!

    Also, to bring in top youngsters, don’t we need a scouting group and someone to lead this? Something we now don’t have…

    I’m starting to wonder if this website that made its comeback has been taken over by Ashley and co….

  • Tom4Nufc

    Mar 7, 2010 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #2

    Why do I find myself liking what’s going on at the club at the moment? I have a very good feeling… Ashley is starting to make me agree with some of his actions! Anyone else starting to think he is a good thing after the serious amounts of mistakes made in the past?

  • toonboyjake

    Mar 7, 2010 at 1:06 PM

    Comment #3

    marsbar newcastle have a scouting group and a chief scout, we also bought in a policy to only sign people under 26 permanently, the club is moving in the right direction and wont have to worry about the home grown laws next season as our youth policy will be fine

  • Sav

    Mar 7, 2010 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #4

    Tom, Not everyone who, it turns out, does you a good turn is your friend, and not everyone who may do you some harm is your enemy.

    Ashley has had to pay off some debts. Not by choice but because he didn’t see it coming.
    And being relegated has forced us to get our financial side in order, even if it cost us most of our better playing staff.
    The spin put on it is that there was a watershed meeting where basically, the spineless ones were shown the door. The fact is, most of those who had any real resale value or who had a chance to get similar wages elsewhere went and what’s left has had to get on with it.
    This latest Llambias/Ashley rant, trying to capitalise on our recent success and on the demise of Portsmouth is laughable. What about the 40-odd thousand who turn up and pay their money every match? Or indeed, what about the other 6 or 7 thousand who will not go because of Ashley?
    We have no proof of their figures. We know for a fact the pair of them are liars. As far as I’m concerned this is the last rattle of an uncomfortable marriage of convenience. The club has to be put into a healthy state if Ashley is to sell it and unlike Ed, I hope he does so as soon as we are promoted.

  • Tom4Nufc

    Mar 7, 2010 at 1:28 PM

    Comment #5


    I see it from your point of view and can agree to an extent… The wrongs he has done to our club is unforgivable, I think that the summer and the next few seasons will show if he is the lier who just wants his investment back like you think, or maybe if he has sorted himself out and is going about it in the right way… Time will tell I guess!

  • Toon_Ice

    Mar 7, 2010 at 2:09 PM

    Comment #6


    The goals from yesterday 🙂

  • chuck

    Mar 7, 2010 at 3:54 PM

    Comment #7

    It`s all about the money and if anyone thinks it`s about anything else, then it`s about time you wised up.
    The recent changes are all about the inability to sell the club without taking a financial bath.
    So it`s back to square one, a youth policy combined with a wage cap and an age limit on new signings.
    Read, buy em cheap ! and pay em nowt, with little outgoing but hopefully fifty thousand bums in seats, plus fifty million pounds from the leagues new tv deal, and whatever comes in from shirts and stadium re naming, advertising. etc.
    Yeah I know there are those who have been snowed by the spin about finances and are quite concerned about Ashleys money and how he saved us from being another Portsmouth etc.
    Look any money and believe it very little has been spent, has come as interest free loans from the owner.
    And being it`s he who would lose out (having to repay himself in the advent of any bankruptcy)
    having to hold onto the club due to there being at present no one interested in buying and as long as the present economic meltdown is with us , aint likely to be anyone.
    So it`s back in the PL with it`s present high earnings that combined with a business plan based on austerity, could be a money earner, if you are only interested in survival, but dont expect anything but medriocrity.
    That appears to be the plan folks, it should be obvious if you look at the facts.

  • baro

    Mar 7, 2010 at 4:11 PM

    Comment #8

    Yes Haris Vuckic is back!!!!!! Thanks for the news ED!

  • baro

    Mar 7, 2010 at 4:25 PM

    Comment #9


    Thanks for the link to goals.

  • tdt

    Mar 7, 2010 at 5:35 PM

    Comment #10

    it is all about the money, which means the better we do the more cash ash gets. hence, although the reasons for success may be different, the final objective is the same. he wants money, we want success, they must come at the same time or not at all. therefore its good that ashley wants to make money, cost it means he wants us to do well. I dont care what his motive is, so long as he makes us a success.

    You live in a fantasy world if you are moaning about business men wanting to make money.

  • chuck

    Mar 7, 2010 at 6:37 PM

    Comment #11

    If that was directed a me, yes, there`s logic to the fact there are higher earnings related to how teams finish in the PL .
    But your logic concerning success on the field and making money must come at the same time , escapes me.
    As for Ashley making money, got no problem there, what concerns me is how he runs the club.

  • marsbar

    Mar 7, 2010 at 6:37 PM

    Comment #12

    Toonboy, I was under the impression that the chief scout and head of scouting both quit earlier in the season and that no one had come in to replace them?

    The only reason for going for players under 26 is for resale value – so that if we go down again, then we can balance the books that way!

  • GeordieGerman

    Mar 7, 2010 at 7:00 PM

    Comment #13

    Howay man, we give Arseley a chance to f*ck up. He’s trying to put things right. Let’s give him a chance to do that. Me thinks he will do a better job (now) than Shepard and Hall. Just wish he would get rid of Llambias.

  • tdt

    Mar 7, 2010 at 7:10 PM

    Comment #14

    its quite simple, chuck, the better the team does (say in cup and/or league) the more money is name.

  • tdt

    Mar 7, 2010 at 7:10 PM

    Comment #15

    *its quite simple, chuck, the better the team does (say in cup and/or league) the more money is made.

  • cupiddstunt

    Mar 7, 2010 at 7:30 PM

    Comment #16

    Yep it’s all about money I don’t think anybody thinks otherwise, a lot of folks have to wise up and we could start with the likes of you.

    To Quote:- “Read, buy em cheap ! and pay em nowt,” ………..unquote.

    Ok so you advocate what?????

    Try this link, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/chelsea/5436621/Chelsea-the-Premier-Leagues-biggest-spenders-with-172m-wage-bill.html

    And you will see that although having the 5th highest wage bill we accomplished absolutely nothing, zip, zero, zilch, nada , nothing need I go on??????

    If it takes painful economies to get this club back onto a stable footing and allows us to make sensible sustainable growth which gives continuity and the possibility of future successes then I am all for it.

    If Mike Ashley can succeed in selling this club then it will in all probability be because he has turned into a much more desirable proposition than when he bought it, which to me means we are probably be quite successful, I can live with that.

    Villa’s 08/09 season wage bill was sub £32 million and they were surviving quite well in the prem. NUFC was in excess of £70 mill. When we were getting relegated.

    Quote :- “ So it`s back in the PL with it`s present high earnings that combined with a business plan based on austerity, could be a money earner” ………..unquote.

    Taking the top five wage bills out of the equation gives a prem league ave. wage bill of £42.5 mill. Which we still exceed so that is hardly austere now is it????

    If we pay the big money only when the players start to earn it by their performances then that can only be a good thing.

    But then again some mugs will always want to spend millions on big names especially when it‘s not their money.

  • cupiddstunt

    Mar 7, 2010 at 7:36 PM

    Comment #17

    Sorry almost forgot…….


  • pondering

    Mar 7, 2010 at 8:36 PM

    Comment #18

    cupid , mike would be very proud of you , infact he’d probably offer you a job in one of his shops.

    stacking shelves.

  • jackdnufc

    Mar 7, 2010 at 8:54 PM

    Comment #19

    Masbar… Ashley signed Alan Carr’s dad up as chief scout a few weeks ago, Graham.

  • Sav

    Mar 7, 2010 at 8:54 PM

    Comment #20

    I think Chuck’s point is that there’s no great difference between surviving in the Prem and coming 5th, whereas there may be a considerable difference in wages and player fees, so a good business model (and that’s what this latest Llambias patter seems to be selling) is that we get up and just try to hang on in there. Granted, we’d rather be struggling (but surviving!) in the Prem thanrunning away with the fizzypop but I’m not kissing Ashley’s a**e for propping up his own khazi. No, thanks.

  • cupiddstunt

    Mar 7, 2010 at 8:55 PM

    Comment #21

    and your solution is what???

    throw money at it???

    We tried it it didn’t work

    Just look at the facts

  • Sav

    Mar 7, 2010 at 8:56 PM

    Comment #22

    Sure but it looks as if there had been no scouting network, let alone recruitment policy for months before Carr was appointed. And is it just Carr?

  • Sav

    Mar 7, 2010 at 9:00 PM

    Comment #23

    The policy is ok.
    Sure. We paid far too much for has-beens and never-were’s in the past and couldn’t get rid of them. Some we’ve still got.

    Just don’t sell it like Ashley is some kind of martyr and the fans who are sick of his antics are a tiny mindless minority. Because I don’t think we are.

  • baro

    Mar 7, 2010 at 9:03 PM

    Comment #24

    Keep this policy but then get a few top signings. Around 6-8 million.

  • stuart no9

    Mar 7, 2010 at 9:19 PM

    Comment #25

    looking at his new policy on signing players,we will NEVERbe a successful club as long as he is in charge, only players under a certain age, no more than 15,000 k aweek , MUST HAVE A GOOD SELL ON VALUE, it dont take a genius too work that one out,so its back to the 70″s and 80″s , when all the AMBITIOUS clubs came to us , took our best players, up”d their wages, then us fans had to watch on telly , when these players we sold, won league titles , and lifted FA cups , with other clubs, fantastic, is that what you really want to endure again? because that is exactly what is going to happen, and for all of you who were not around at that time, the bad news is ” youve seen nowt yet” ash will get his money back before he packs his bags, we are about to become a selling club again

  • Robby Bobson

    Mar 8, 2010 at 12:22 AM

    Comment #26

    I read its all about money…money money money.

    What football clubs owners don’t aim to make money? Maybe some very rich fans like Madejski and tho’s who have enough of it like Chelsea and Man city.

    Even if we were taen over by the fans, the businesses invested would want money and dividends, something Ashley hasnt done whilst at the club. shepherd and co were taking millions out when we made losses…so stop whining about money…of course he wants the club to be financially stable.

    We still owe him 25 million dont forget. Glaister at Man Utd have out the club in 700million of debt, whereas Ashley has saved us from proper dead…only directors loans.

    Shame hes such a muppet though!

  • Robby Bobson

    Mar 8, 2010 at 12:24 AM

    Comment #27

    my god my spelling and grammar was all over the place then. *debt not dead

  • singamagpie

    Mar 8, 2010 at 2:19 AM

    Comment #28

    Newcastle should look at South Korea for talents. Their players are doing well in Europe this season and might surprise everybody again in South Africa this summer.

  • cupiddstunt

    Mar 8, 2010 at 7:18 PM

    Comment #29

    I might be wrong but I think you will find the wage cap will rise as and when we are back in the prem.

    Also having a wage cap forces a slow build and it certainly has not hindered Arsenal or Villa to have wage restrictions and a slow build.

    I do not think Ashley is something kind of wonderful, to be honest I thought the guy was one of the biggest a**eholes I had ever come across due to the way he started at NUFC. I thought he was a complete clown and it showed he did not know his a**e from his elbow when it came to running a football club. Bringing in the cockney mafia was a massive mistake.

    It appears that he is now trying to get things on an even keel and make up for his previous mistakes and I am prepared to keep an open mind and give him some time, I would just like to see him get rid of that slimeball Llame a**e or at least keep him away from public contact.


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