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England Have To Be Careful Of Sour Grapes

We’ve seen Sky Sports and all the news in England this morning on England losing the 2018 World Cup bid to Russia.

England’s St. Georges’ Cross

The basic premise seems to be that England believes that FIFA  are just completely bent – but that’s like saying they didn’t pick us – so they must be crazy and probably corrupt too, not to mention being stupid.

But we think FIFA picks the World Cup sites  based on how much will the game expand around the world if the tournament takes place in that country.

If you believe that,  then Russia and Qatar are good choices, because there’s no doubt football will expand  in those regions of the world, and football is such a popular game in both those areas of the world.

If England had won the bid,  football wouldn’t have expanded much at all,  because by their own admission England could host the World Cup next month. That was not an advantage to the England bid.

It’s almost like if a country has to do a lot of building new stadia and the like, that’s even an advantage in the bid, because football will expand greatly in that country and the surrounding area.

We know this is a contrarian view, and we’ll probably be smashed for saying it, but it at the very least makes it easier to accept that England didn’t win.

What we could do is to understand why Panarama and The Sunday Times produced those reports that were not at all complimentary to the FIFA executives, and they were the people who did the voting.

That’s not to say what they reported wasn’t true, not at all,  but they could have delayed their reports until now  – self interest, selfishness and profits  is the likely answer to that question.

Maybe,  just maybe, the media in England smashed the bid – and it wouldn’t be the first time that the gossip press in England had looked little short of a disgrace.

We know the feelings in England are very high right now, but if you agree that FIFA indeed picks the countries based on the above premises – it at least makes England’s loss easier to understand, and after all we just hammered Australia in the first day of the Adelaide test match. 😀

It will be an even worse day for Australia today, because they got just one vote in the first round of voting for the 2022 World Cup.

We have to be very wary of  possibly being accused of being poor losers, and we like the way David Beckham has reacted to the vast disappointment.

David has gone up in our estimation, by the way he has handled himself as part of England’s bid, and he’s already congratulated the two winners and he is already looking forward.

It’s hardly surprising  that David has handled his career so well – and it’s clear when he finally hangs up his boots,  he’ll still have big big things still to do in his life.

Comments welcome.

18 comments so far

  • Solaidback

    Dec 3, 2010 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #1

    It’s only sour grapes if it’s not true Ed fella.. 🙂

    The way to look at it is, if they think it will expand the sport greatly by playing the WC in those countries, why over the past 3 decades has it been played in countries no different to our own?? ie Germany, Spain, Italy, France, USA, etc
    But when we, England apply to host the WC, its’ decided it needs to be played in countries that haven’t help it before?

    Also, look at how much football has expended by playing it in SA, oh, it hasn’t.. big shock that eh!!!!

  • Toonkistan

    Dec 3, 2010 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #2

    you build stadia for WC and what do you do with them after the WC…like a lot of stadiums in SA are struggling to meet the ends due to high maintainence cost …again may be russia and qatar could bear this cost being oil giants but what did FIFA do with its stupid legacy program for SA when 40KMs away from the stadium people dont have electricity, food and water and for them this stadia is a disgrace….
    on a spat note 1-3 against westbrom 🙂 Howay

  • Timmers09

    Dec 3, 2010 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #3

    I’d rather have relatively “free press” than live in either of those countires and be told what to write/release. Try writing a derogatory statement about your country or its elected members somewhere like Iran.
    I have no doubt the fat cats at FIFA did not vote for us because of the expose, but you can’t blame the press you must blame the voters for letting that bother them.
    Also if the aim of FIFA was to “expand” the game tell countries like England and Australia before the bidding so we can save 15 million and not bother. Still 100 years to host another world cup seems fair. England biggest mistake was letting the game we love and invent be controlled by an international cartel.
    If I was the FA i would start withdrawing our FIFA funding or say “we are going ahead with goal line technology, how’d you like those apples?”
    Sour grapes? Yes, when something unjust happens it is correct to feel that way. “Well done Timmers09 you were the best candidate for the job, but we’re gonna employ Mr X for his diversity?” See you in court me thinks

  • DrunkenSteve

    Dec 3, 2010 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #4

    FIFA are corrupt it was shown on Panorama the other night quite clearly.

    England pledged to spend more money than FIFA do on football development on a global scale by way of “compensation” for everyone in the UK already loving football.

    So by the precedent that they have set yesterday will FIFA now give the world biggest sporting event to some dusty footballing frontier outpost (Qatar)?

    Fitting the corrupt scum bags have given it to what is almost a Mafia run state (as described by US intelligence on Wikkileaks).

    Lets face it England is hated by most countries even the home countries hate us. Jealousy.

  • Brisvegas

    Dec 3, 2010 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #5

    Gossip press? Panorama?

  • DrunkenSteve

    Dec 3, 2010 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #6

    @ Brisvegas

    Panorama is a television program on the BBC. Its is based on investigative journalism. It caught on secret camera FIFA officials accepting bribes. Undeniable corruption. FIFA has since reprimanded the officials involved.

    Gossip press are the newspapers/media in the UK who will simply make stories up in order to sell newspapers. – The BBC are not one of these.

  • Todd-USA

    Dec 3, 2010 at 12:28 PM

    Comment #7

    Sorry, Ed, but I think the whole thing was a farce. FIFA has shown time and time again they’re one of the most inept organizations in existence. Apparently they’re also bitter and corrupt people.

    I truly was rooting for England. What better to place to have the Cup in a country that is absolutely mad for football! And finally, when the US hosted in 1984, it was by far and away was the best-attended Cup, despite the fact THERE WERE 12 LESS GAMES! Something isn’t right here.

  • MacToon

    Dec 3, 2010 at 12:44 PM

    Comment #8

    Some good comments.

    How can we have any faith in Fifa any more, they obviously cannot even employ assistant refs who wont miss glaringly obvious goals like Lampard’s and an association who are frightened of goal line technology for some reason.

    Todd, inept and corrupt, perfect words to sum up Fifa.

  • G

    Dec 3, 2010 at 1:32 PM

    Comment #9

    94 Todd, not 84, there was no world cup in 84, but thanks for reminding me that there was one we didn’t qualify for!

  • lesh

    Dec 3, 2010 at 1:33 PM

    Comment #10

    Maybe the FA ought to have had Rednapp on the case!

  • listie

    Dec 3, 2010 at 1:34 PM

    Comment #11

    Who has money and energy, that will be Russia and Qatar. The voting process is all about backhanders and political deals. Can anyone show me how the South Africa World Cup has helped South Africa?

  • Todd-USA

    Dec 3, 2010 at 2:15 PM

    Comment #12

    G: Yeah, typo. Sorry.

  • GeordieGerman

    Dec 3, 2010 at 2:15 PM

    Comment #13

    listie, They sold a lot of Vuvuzelas.

    Russian Mafia, 10 tickets for one seat, first one there gets it.

  • rwpoynter

    Dec 3, 2010 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #14

    Personally, I think that insider dealing runs FIFA, but didn’t we all think that anyway? It’s always going to be about who you know rather than what you know or can provide. BUT, I have no real problem about Eastern Europe , for the first time, hosting the World Cup, though I would have preferred it to be Hungary. The exposes in the Sunday Times or Panorama probably didn’t help but I would rather expose the corruption than be a party to it, even if it means losing the 2018 bid. What would be best is if we can build a team in the next eight years to win and give Putin the biggest kick in the teeth ever.

  • davcon22

    Dec 3, 2010 at 4:55 PM

    Comment #15

    To right its sour grapes Ed,the fifa mafia had no intention of giving it to England,even tho the had by far the best bid in every respect,Stadia,Economically,the legacy after the games,Security etc etc.They completely waisted 15 bigguns of Engish tax payers money.
    I reckon we should break away from fifa and just concentrate on English football,if that means not playing international so be it,we’re sh*te anyway.The Premiership is the most watched league on the planet and it still would be without those crooked basta*ds!!
    The average fan has no say what happens in football,its ran by one man, Set “back hander” Blatter.Its only going to get worse cos once Blatters gone,the garlic munchers will be taking over and he hates English footy more tham Blatter.
    It makes my p*ss boil!!!!

  • Toondownunder

    Dec 4, 2010 at 1:44 AM

    Comment #16

    At least you guys lost out to a real country, we lost to country thats not even the size of Sydney and a population smaller than Adelaide.

  • Sav

    Dec 4, 2010 at 1:50 AM

    Comment #17

    The WC is a toilet.

    Ok, if FIFA are a corrupt, undemocratic megalomaniacal organisation, why then does England kow-tow, grovel and toadie to them, parading the Prime Minister, Prince William, Bobby Charlton, Big Al and the rest, like a Norwegian commentator’s wet dream before the despicable, self-agrandising nobody, Sepp Blatter ?
    This whole system of pitching for the gig, wasting millions currying agreements evidently with a pack of liars who said they backed the UK bid is a demeaning and unsatisfactory way to determine the best host for the WC. If you lie down with a pig, you are going to smell like one. I can’t help thinking if we had poured all this effort into campaigning for reform of FIFA, it would have been a lot more beneficial to us and the game.

  • Sav

    Dec 4, 2010 at 1:54 AM

    Comment #18

    Instead of being justly proud of having a country which sponsors open and responsible programmes like Panorama, I had the distinct impression that it was regarded as something of an embarrassment and a hindrance to ‘our’ bid.


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