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No Fair-Play Europa League Place For Newcastle

The English Premier League gets four teams that qualify for the European Champions League and three teams that qualify for the Europa League.

Europa League Badge

The Champions league positions are the top four places in the league, but the Europa places are not all determined by league positions, although they are in all other countries expect England and France.

The Carling Cup winner and the FA Cup winner get entry to the Europa League from England and 5th place in the Premier League also gets a berth.

But three more overall berths are awarded each year by UEFA to those countries that finish in the top three places of the UEFA Fair Play table.

Teams are judged on the following criteria and are awarded points in the following categories:

  • Yellow and red cards
  • Positive play – attacking tactics, acceleration of the game, efforts to gain time, and continued pursuit of goals
  • Respect to the opponent – like returning the ball to the opponent at a throw-in, helping an injured opponent (whoops)
  • Respect to the referee (whoops)
  • Behavior of the team officials (whoops)
  • Behavior of the fans (whoops)

Only the first one is really objective,  and the rest are completely subjective, and we’re not sure why it’s not all based on yellow and red cards, and then nobody can argue about it.

Remember that  every time a referee in the Premier League gives out a card, red or yellow,  it lessens the chances of an additional England team qualifying for the Europa League that season.

England did qualify last year, and the way the additional place is awarded in England is that it goes to the highest placed team in the league that hasn’t yet qualified for Europe – and Fulham got that place last year in 8th place and on 49 points.

It’s interesting Newcastle have 4 points more than that total this season, with 7 games still remaining.

England have qualified through the Fair Play rules 7 times since it started back in 1995 – that’s 17 times it has already been awarded.

But the bad news for Newcastle  is that the current standings have Norway at the top, with Finland and the Netherlands in second and third places, with England currently in 9th place and way off the pace.

Pity that referees in the Premier League cannot stop giving out any more cards this season….

Norway have qualified 10 times since 1995 by the Fair Play table, and notice it has nothing to do with how good the league is in that country.

So we’ll just have to hope that Liverpool beat Everton in the semi-final the weekend after next, and 6th place will get us a Europa League spot, and after all we’ve been wanting Liverpool to do well all season – haven’t we?

Say yes 😀

But it’s not all lost even  if Everton win the FA Cup – we’ll just have to finish in 5th place above Chelsea,  and 7 wins in a row should do that!

And if we don’t make it this season, just remember  it could have been a lot worse – Sunderland  could have won the FA Cup – so thank goodness for small mercies, because that would have been unbearable.

Comments welcome.

112 comments so far

  • papiss_on_your_parade

    Apr 4, 2012 at 2:24 PM

    Comment #81

    Does anyone have spare tickets for either bolton or man city?

    Really desperate to go!

  • papiss_on_your_parade

    Apr 4, 2012 at 2:25 PM

    Comment #82

    Haha ToonLYF, i’m afraid you can’t judge a player by a game. Leading into Dennis Wise territory there 😀

  • toonLYF

    Apr 4, 2012 at 2:31 PM

    Comment #83

    i’m sure i stated that…….

  • toonLYF

    Apr 4, 2012 at 2:33 PM

    Comment #84

    i knew of him as a player prior to anything to do with football manager, and i’m not just talking Youtube…pointless explaining myself now though ey

  • Klatoon

    Apr 4, 2012 at 2:36 PM

    Comment #85

    They paid for his flight, they paid for his flight


  • Rowan Milsted

    Apr 4, 2012 at 2:38 PM

    Comment #86


    Yeah, Perch should definitely feature in the game, either as a starter or off the bench. I think you have to reward form with game time, and the last 3/4 times he’s played he’s done very well.

    It’s interesting that now he’s playing well – and will hopefully continue to improve – there are a variety of places he can play, like Raylor. We could start him at CB if Colo’s still unfit, or at LB as Raylor has just come back from injury and Santon hasn’t found his form (yet), or even bring him on at CDM to close the game late on, as Pardew likes to do. He’ll be known as Mr. Versatility if he carries on at this rate!

  • Klatoon

    Apr 4, 2012 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #87


  • Wor Shearer

    Apr 4, 2012 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #88


    I don’t get it?

  • Hencha Boii

    Apr 4, 2012 at 3:23 PM

    Comment #89

    Why is everybody including Colo in there ideal line up for Swansea game, didn’t AP come out over the weekend and say he’d 100% miss Swans and more than likely Bolton! Plus Colo wouldn’t even be risked after Perch and Willo’s solid performance against Liverpool.

  • ilovetoon8788

    Apr 4, 2012 at 3:35 PM

    Comment #90

    It’s amazing we can now talk of Europe. It’s freaking exciting!!!!!

  • Dannyo

    Apr 4, 2012 at 4:02 PM

    Comment #91

    So Tav is recalled and is set to go straight into the squad, pls don’t tell me Perch or Willo are injured… 🙁

  • -Tendo-

    Apr 4, 2012 at 4:07 PM

    Comment #92

    HAHA Klatton, that’s a good one

  • GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous)

    Apr 4, 2012 at 4:24 PM

    Comment #93

    Toastie Swansea played a negative game of football against us, they didn’t attack us at all mate. They played to stifle us and they succeeded. If you disagree I would like to hear your thoughts about how you saw how that game went.

  • GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous)

    Apr 4, 2012 at 4:33 PM

    Comment #94

    So lads, Swansea are a good, well organised side, with an astute manager and some very tidy passers of the ball in the middle with the likes of Allen, Britton and Sigurdsson on form. 2 deadly wingers in Sinclair and Dyer and a Geordie boy up top who is good for a goal or two. Caulker at the back is a very good up and coming youngster and Ashley Williams is solid, if unspectacular. Angel Rangel and Neil Taylor are decent with the ball at their feet and Michel Vorm has been touted as one of the best keepers in the league this season.

    My question is can we do it? 😉

  • davybtoon

    Apr 4, 2012 at 4:44 PM

    Comment #95

    dannyo tavernier coming back simply a case of pardew giving him a chance from now till the end of the season n get used to the premier league as pardew as made no secret of the fact that tavernier is gonna b in his squad next year n imo has the chance to b first choice ryt back

  • Munster Mag

    Apr 4, 2012 at 4:59 PM

    Comment #96

    Ghosd, we can do it, but I dont think we will, unless we play really well. I predict 2-2.

  • GHOSD (The poster formerly known as Ruddy Marveaux-lous)

    Apr 4, 2012 at 5:06 PM

    Comment #97

    We have been playing very well as of late. A 4-3-3 might play straight into the hands of Swansea though but I think if we do, and Tiote plays out of his skin then we can do it.

  • Toon Tang

    Apr 4, 2012 at 5:15 PM

    Comment #98


    sounds like my type of roll model hahaha

  • davis_toons

    Apr 4, 2012 at 5:37 PM

    Comment #99

    @3 LooneyToon41 // Apr 4, 2012 at 11:49 AM

    Thanks for the link. A well written story on our club.

    Those who still unsure abt the club condition shld read that articial. It have already cover most of it. Hiring and firing of managers must incl law suit cost as well.

    35million? It really up to MA to comeup with another sum of cash to up the team further. Of course whatever amount spend will be earn back or at lease covered mostly given time with the current state the club is running.

  • cyprus

    Apr 4, 2012 at 5:40 PM

    Comment #100

    Going with 1-3. Our three up front will be too much. Ba back on the scoreline with first goal, after we fall behind!

  • mickg108

    Apr 4, 2012 at 5:42 PM

    Comment #101

    Try http://www.Stream2watch.me
    For Toon matches..

  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Apr 4, 2012 at 5:50 PM

    Comment #102

    Perch has picked up a knock and is struggling for Swansea game.

    That’s why Tav is back.

  • Tsunki

    Apr 4, 2012 at 5:51 PM

    Comment #103

    Swans are a side we could trip up on, not because they are fantastic but tactically they make up for their collective limitations by staying behind, passing until they spot an opening forming in the middle and waiting for their break. I think Pards needs to instill patience and a rigid back line especially for this one, but I see no reason why the same 4-3-3 can’t put them to the sword like scousepool, it’s looking almost like the finished article up front and our midfield is well drilled, although I hope jonas goes back up and raylor or santon at LB, still don’t think Gosling is quite ready yet, hence my reservation if Pards starts as he finished last time. Our back line is not going to succumb in the same way so no fear of a nasty aerial hammering this time out, as long as they stay wary. I will stick my neck out for a 3-0 or 3-1 on this. To us of course.

    Off topic, haven’t been on much of late, when was the last time anyone saw a post from the pre-puberty mackem triad? Has OV ousted the soapless schoolboy?

  • Tsunki

    Apr 4, 2012 at 6:00 PM

    Comment #104

    Obatoyou – if you are still on, or for anyone who is outside uk but want to access uk-resident only links, I used to watch episodes or trailers of 24( er I am sure it was that or Heroes!) on FOX usa in the uk by using one of those Proxy server programs – Hide IP I think was one – it basically allows you to use a server based in a different country from yours so if you choose a UK proxy server you can watch stuff like bbc online. I think proxy servers are the haunt of those looking for ‘other’ material so I always felt a bit shabby using it though ha ha! 🙂

  • Tsunki

    Apr 4, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #105

    Hatem – NOOOOOooooo! Wasn’t that nasty head butt was it? 😉

  • geordiejamie89

    Apr 4, 2012 at 6:03 PM

    Comment #106

    I read the webpage that somebody linked onto one of these blogs, and although it took about half an hour to read, it was very good, so whoever that was thank you.
    Looking at it, it looks like Newcastle have everything in their favour. If Newcastle were positioned in the table based on wages, we’d be in the bottom half. If we were placed in the table based on players wages, we’d be in the bottom half.
    With all that said, Newcastle recorded a loss after tax of just under 4 million in the last financial year. So When the next report comes out, what should we expect?
    Well we won’t have the Andy Caroll sale in our favour anymore, but wages have been improved, despite some of our top players getting new deals.
    We will earn about an extra 5 million from finishing sixth on position bonus.
    Our attendances at the stadium has improved slightly yet again, we’ve had plenty sell-outs. (I can verify that, as I live down south and have to get tickets last minute, and it’s been a real struggle this season, which i don’t really mind).
    We have the prospect of Europa League, although I’m not sure when we’ll benefit from that.
    We’ve settled the interest on the clubs external debts, and cut costs and wages, while improving on the pitch.
    On top of that, we’ve been on tv plenty, which earns extra depending on how many games are televised.
    That all looks very promising, and should look good when the next financial report comes out. The interesting one again will be the one after. The one after we’ve been in the Europa League (potentially), and after the buys and sales at the end of this season.
    And with most of our best players tied down, it’s going to take silly money again to prize them from the club.
    If we get Demba Ba to sign a new contract, it might be worth selling him, to replicate the progress we managed to achieve from the Andy Caroll sale. So my ideal finish to this season, going into next:
    Demba sign a new contract, and then sold for 22 million.
    Guthrie, Gosling, Alan Smith, Lovenkrands, Leon Best, and a couple others all leave.
    That leaves us with plenty gap for wages, and plenty money for players:
    Berbatov 2 year deal.
    Alvaro Morata from Real Madrid
    Corgnet from French league
    Alfaimanio from French league
    2nd keeper
    amongst others. And that’s just from the money generated from the Demba ba sale if it’s 22 million. Add to that the other players leaving and sales etc, we’d be a great team with another striker to thank for it.

  • geordiejamie89

    Apr 4, 2012 at 6:04 PM

    Comment #107

    I’ve just realised how much I’d just been typing away, my bad.

  • Faddj

    Apr 4, 2012 at 6:27 PM

    Comment #108

    if anyone gets a minute, please have a look at my blog, I was pitch side at the match on Sunday taking photos as part of the Wembley to Soweto project, cheers.


  • lualua17

    Apr 5, 2012 at 12:43 AM

    Comment #109

    What do you mean Ed behaviour of the fans (whoops) I don’t see what we have done that has been so terrible.


    Apr 5, 2012 at 5:41 AM

    Comment #110


    Wow! Brilliant photo,s! My favourite is of Ben Arfa with the ball at his feet!

    Congrats on some damn good work mate!

  • LooneyToon41

    Apr 5, 2012 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #111

    @106 geordiejamie89. You’re welcome mate. The link is @3 on this page. REALLY interesting read from an independent analysist, and in reality sets out how all the EPL teams are run, and therefore how they should be run. I’d recommend it to all NUFC supporters! 😉

  • Crawfordladd17

    Apr 6, 2012 at 1:01 AM

    Comment #112

    how not like bottom of the Fair Play league Tiote is our only player that gets bookings all the time


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