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Wigan Lodge Formal Bid For James Perch

News coming through from the Daily Mirror that Wigan Athletic have put in a bid for Newcastle’s James Perch.

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James Perch – Wigan put in formal bid

The report says that Wigan are waiting for a response from Newcastle, and of course Newcastle need to decide whether they will sell James this summer or lose him as a free agent next summer when his four-year deal runs out.

And James may be one of those players that new Director of Football Joe Kinnear says isn’t good enough to be at the club, but James is solid player who can play in many different positions, and he’s proved that since signing on from Nottingham Forest in the summer of 2010.

He’s an excellent squad player and after a difficult first season, he has played well over the last two seasons, and we’d like to see him stay on Tyneside.

For the record, James has played 81 times for Newcastle with one goal in his three seasons on Tyneside, but he’s also picked up 21 yellow cards.

What do you think?

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216 comments so far

  • Taking the Papiss

    Jul 1, 2013 at 10:48 PM

    Comment #201

    Of loan sorry

  • stan anderson

    Jul 1, 2013 at 10:51 PM

    Comment #202

    Would sooner see Shola given a free transfer as Perch moved on.Shola was dscribed on here as a goalscorer by some blogger the other night haha

  • p

    Jul 1, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    Comment #203

    Sazzer, just to be clear, I am not saying I agree on the proven/unproven thing but I think it is generally regarded as the case that those with premiership experience do command a higher price just like it is accepted that English players command a higher price.

    That does not mean shola would cost more than messi though

    There are other factors also including the selling club, length remaining on contract etc.

    Looking at a website though Benteke is only values at 12m EUR vs, 15m EUR ofr PEA.

    Still, I just could not see Villa sell him for that.

  • Honoured2BNUFC

    Jul 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    Comment #204

    Kets ffs STOP MENTIONING REMY, the man is on a rape charge-until that is cleared he will not be a target-you’re like a broken bloody record. Do you even think before you type these players we should/should not sign? Give it a rest.
    In other news came across article saying Kinnear wants a signing by Friday-hoping somethings in that, could do with something positive coming through the club, it’s too quiet at the moment.

  • jimmysmith

    Jul 1, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    Comment #205

    Love Shola, but if he remains one of our top two go to strikers come seasons start, I’ll struggle to muster the enthusiasm to get out of bed each day.

  • pawl250

    Jul 1, 2013 at 10:58 PM

    Comment #206

    Toon 252 you are so full of it!

    Stop talking tripe! You only cause discontent amongst the fans when they find its a load of bull.

  • p

    Jul 1, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    Comment #207

    Still don’t get it.

    If he loans – he pays capital gains on only his shareholding but the loan has to repaid so the sale price will be less.

    He invests, he pays capital gains on the sale price less his investment including the bit that he is not loaning now.

    Both dividends and interest are taxed at source.

    Loans are generally lower risk (for the loaner) but less return as it is normally fixed. Investment (equity) is regarded as higher risk and higher return – you can lose it all but, you also get a full share of profits unlike loaners.

    Ashley gets 100% of the profits of Newcastle whether he loans the money or invests it.

    Loaning is likely a simpler transaction from a legal company perspective also.

    So why bother to invest it?

    I don’t think this principle changes regardless of what vehicle/corporate structure owns it. This may defer tax but probably not avoid it.

  • toonarmydownsouth

    Jul 1, 2013 at 11:06 PM

    Comment #208

    @RBairner: #Lorient president @LoicFery has announced his side turned down a bid of greater than £10m for an unnamed player. #Aliadiere?

    @RBairner: Maybe reading too much into it, but the fact he gave the figure in £ rather than € hints bid was made by an English club.

    Oh please god no…….

  • jimmysmith

    Jul 1, 2013 at 11:08 PM

    Comment #209

    I think it would definitely have crossed our very arbitrary owners mind that we have 4 strikers in Cisse, Gouffran, Shola “good grief” and “gulp” young Adam Campbell, and why isn’t that enough? Chilling!

  • Galtierez

    Jul 1, 2013 at 11:10 PM

    Comment #210

    We have these players as home grown.

    R Taylor
    S Taylor
    We look like we will be left with Krul, Elliot, Bigi and Steven Taylor. The rest are either going to be sold or loaned out.Also Ryan Taylor will not have a squad number next season due to injury.
    Being as we need 8 home growns, I would love to know what is going on. Also to sell Perch for £700,000 is as bad as selling Aaron Hughes for a million, all those years ago. You can’t buy a loyal squad player for that money, unless you buy off NUFC.

  • gfp13

    Jul 1, 2013 at 11:14 PM

    Comment #211

    Tbh I would say its too early to call benteke proven he has had 1 season. You never know if he’s gonna do the same next season or not. But his price is going to be sky high due to last season. Aubameyang price also seems to be very high tho so maybe worth looking into

  • Taking the Papiss

    Jul 1, 2013 at 11:19 PM

    Comment #212

    Equity is only a better option if shares are readily tradable – in this case the aren’t.

    Shareholder equity is not tax free on return hence why cos use intranet group tax free loans to fund each other… Loans are much more complicated from a legal perspective than just an equity injection and issuance of more shares or increased premium on shares.

  • ToonDarnSarf

    Jul 1, 2013 at 11:23 PM

    Comment #213

    No way are we buying Benteke. Villa will be targeting top 8 too, why would he leave for a club not in Europe? And there’s no way we will spend £15M+ on the basis of one excellent season.

    We’re trying to sign players like him as he was a year ago. That boat has sailed, people need to move on from the obvious Championship Manager style targets.

  • jimmysmith

    Jul 1, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    Comment #214

    ok, but aren’t Ashley’s bean counters just saving money wherever they can, as you’d expect from any well run business, and this notion that Ashley has “pumped” 250 mill plus into Newcastle semantics when he’s actually just bought it and cleared the debt, effectively shuffling cash and tangible assets.

  • p

    Jul 1, 2013 at 11:31 PM

    Comment #215

    Well TP, unless you have a link to a credible article where someone has researched both what Mash has done specifically and why he has done it, you are not going to get me onside with somewhat generic statements.

    For equity, he can just increase the allotted shares if he wants, with a private company you not even need to file anything with respect to the articles to do this.

    As for a loan, it is not that complicated when you are effectively loaning money to yourself with no bank involved + you have full time Corporate lawyers on your payroll.

    As I said, I think he has loaned the money because it is straight-forward and a risk averse way of funding the club beyond his initial investment.

    If we are to believe it is more tax efficient to loan vs. invest capital, I think you need to better explain the tax benefits of doing so.

    Or perhaps not. Maybe we should stick to talking about hypothetical transfers, what a knob JFK is etc etc.

  • Sazzer

    Jul 2, 2013 at 12:06 AM

    Comment #216

    Yeah, I think we agree. Benteke is out of our reach unless we pay silly money or do a RVP. Rivarly and economic resources determine prices. Villa and us is both rivals and have similar amount of resources. That’s usully there worst set up for deal. It can happen but it will be most likely for silly money or contract loopholes.

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