There was news recently that a £12M deal had already been agreed between Arsenal and Newcastle United for Mathieu Debuchy to move to Arsenal, but that the deal would only be announced after France are finished with their World Cup endeavors – which could even be tomorrow night, when they play Germany in the quarter finals.
Mathieu Debuchy – in French colors
The latest news today is that Mathieu Debuchy has removed all references that he is a Newcastle United player from his Twitter page – and we suppose when he signs for Arsenal – which now seems to be almost certain – he will put in he’s an Arsenal player.
The French right-bank has said he was missing the Champions League since he’s been at Newcastle, and that was a thinly veiled open invitation for bigger clubs to come in for him during the World Cup, and Arsene Wenger saw him as an excellent replacement for fellow French International right back Bacary Sagna, who signed for Man City as a free agent recently.
There has also been news in the local Newcastle press that the club have resigned themselves to losing Mathieu, who has played very well for France in the World Cup, and if he does move he will have stayed one year less than his best pal Yohan Cabaye.
Yohan stayed 30 months at Newcastle before he moved ion to PSG, and Debuchy has only been at the club for 18 months, since we signed him for £6M from Lille.
The next top player to leave Newcastle could well be midfield powerhouse Moussa Sissoko, who is in the sights of Italian club Napoli.
But we suppose if these players don’t want to stay at Newcastle and play for us, they should move on.
Since he’s been at Newcastle Debuchy has become a much better player, and he has become France’s number one right-back edging out Bacary Sagna for the starting position for his country.
What do you think?
160 comments so far
Sazzer
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:11 PM
Comment #41Our Toon
So it’s not the case that other clubs are prepared to pay Kroos more money than Bayern are prepared to pay and he therefore wants to leave?
Average_Contents
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:12 PM
Comment #42Newcastle United are in talks over Sega Couilbaly
Get French Football News understands that Newcastle United are in talks over a possible transfer of Rennes defender Sega Coulibaly, after a source close to the player confirmed to us that this was the case earlier today.
Talks are preliminary at this stage, and the club has yet to make an offer to the Ligue 1 side.
Sega Coulibaly’s representatives have spoken with Liverpool and West Brom in recent weeks, who have also confirmed their interest.
jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:12 PM
Comment #43Jimiley…we are gonna need delivery to that top striker you speak of. As of now we look the same as the team that finished last season and that is not comforting!
jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:15 PM
Comment #44BandB…then SDJ probably cost us somewhere between £9-10M give and take a million 🙂
Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:15 PM
Comment #45I think Janmaat would be a better (and younger) option than Debuchy for sure. If we could get 12m for Debuchy and for certain get Janmaat for less, that’s a no brainer.
How come today is so beautiful with all the unconfirmed rumors?
BandB
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:17 PM
Comment #46Jesper,
Aye, and it will be totted up to make the profit on transfers look less blatant.
Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:19 PM
Comment #47BandB
Fee touted is 7.5 mill. I am unsure as to whether this is pounds or euros. However as he was in the last year of his contract and had been making noises of leaving for quite some time, it would be safe to assume Ajax wouldn’t have held firm on a high fee despite him being captain.
On the other hand we could have picked him up for 5 mill and factored in his wages as 2.5 mill (I read somewhere that we factored in first year wages rather than full contract). That would equate to 48,000 a week which whilst seeming high, would be reasonable wages for a player of his standing. Again it’s unclear as to whether these are pounds or euros.
IITianToon
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:19 PM
Comment #48The more I think of it, getting >=12m for Debuchy would be a wonderful deal, provided we get a quality young replacement on board.
Oh Wait..
Our Toon
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:19 PM
Comment #49Sazzer @41
Kroos is moving to the European Champions, he’s not happy under Guardiola and even Bayern Munich have a certain limit on what they can offer the players, if it was all about money for Kroos he’d be joining Man Utd who were willing to pay him a reported £250k per week.
IITianToon
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:20 PM
Comment #50Does anybody know why certain transfer fees are revealed by clubs but most are ‘undisclosed’?
Sazzer
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:22 PM
Comment #51beermonkey
Not sure with either Richards or Jaanmat.
Richards can be either very good buy or very bad buy. He’s black and white.
Jaanmat feels grey, not unlike, perhaps, somewhat better than Simpson.
JamesToon
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:22 PM
Comment #52Not sure about Janmaat…i think he will go to southampton or man united maybe
As i said i think Richard would be good to play at CB and i think Santon needs a run of games at RB and i think we could get Yedlin on the cheap to give Santon some competition.
JamesToon
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:23 PM
Comment #53Richards*
BandB
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:24 PM
Comment #54Geremi,
I don’t mind them doing this kind of creative accounting. But surely, by this method, they should also DEDUCT the money they would have paid on wages they have offloaded.
Why don’t they? Because they know pointing such things is regarded as carping.
Our Toon
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:25 PM
Comment #55Jamestoon @52
I completely agree with you mate, think Richards all the way with Yedlin.
Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:25 PM
Comment #56Judging by the way this club is run though, I’m inclined to believe it would be euros. That would be 6mill pounds, if we factor in the years wages again in pounds it would be 38,000 a week for the year. Sounds pretty realistic to me. Therefore 4 million pound transfer and 2 million wages (roughly).
Wouldn’t put it past this club to stick with 7.5 million when in actuality the transfer spend could be as low as 4 million.
Our Toon
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:27 PM
Comment #57B&B
Next they’ll be taking into account the amount of electricity the players are using and the amount is cost for travel etc and this will all be incorporated into future expenses for players
lesh
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:27 PM
Comment #58Average…..
‘Quiet* fcuking phone’
You’ve corrected one error, what about the other one?
😉
Graeme
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:28 PM
Comment #59IITianToon @50 – mainly so supporters, like us, dont know the actual fees paid by their club. That way the manager etc can pull any figure they like out of the hat. In previous years, even our “Free Transfers” were costing upwards of £5 million, allegedly.
It allows the club to claim they have spent huge amounts, when the reality is somewhat different. NUFC are past masters of subterfuge and deceipt!!!
lochinvar
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:28 PM
Comment #60Debuchy if he is sold for £12m has allowed us to buy De Jong for £7.5m and leave £4.5m bonus in the kitty. No doubt buying De Jong before selling Debuchy was designed to placate the fans and soften the blow. Sisokko and Krul have to stay as with a few more acquisitions we would appear to have the basis for a strong team, if we get the goal scorers we need ! Liverpool will be marginally less forceful without Chomperez and Gerrard possibly marginally less positive as a result. Spuds about the same, Mancs rebuilding so yep it could get interesting. Just need Arsenal to fall away ( I wish they would) , Chelsea to go AWOL and Man City to have 30 points deducted by FIFA . Top 4 – why not !
JamesToon
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:28 PM
Comment #61Geremi
The initial transfer fee could be very low and we would pay a certain amount of money in monthly instalments
Slank
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:29 PM
Comment #6234BandB @ 34
You are quite right in your observation.
We are not a big club. Big clubs repeatedly win trophies. We haven’t won a domestic trophy for 60 years. We are a mid table club that has a large stadium with large crowds partly because it is a one club city. We probably have some of the best, possibly the best, away fans in the Premiership.
The rest of the country don’t see us as sitting at the top table of football.
I started attending games in the mid 60s and I am fortunate enough to have been at every home game in the Fairs Cup run and so have seen the highs of which there have been few and the lows of which there have been many.
Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:29 PM
Comment #63Anyway, are we signing this “person”:
http://www.sega.com/
BandB
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:29 PM
Comment #64Geremi,
I’m not saying I’m not pleased to have him.
I am.
But people hear £7.5m and then have high hopes of us signing players with a £10 to £15m pound price tag, when that doesn’t seem to be the market we are shopping in.
Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:30 PM
Comment #65BandB
I wouldn’t be shocked if Dispatches uncovered a NUFC Enron type scandle of accounting, but the exact opposite whereby we’ve hidden money for years.
We all know whatever can be done to look like spending the money we have, without actually spending it, will be.
lesh
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:31 PM
Comment #66BandB.
I made that very point when factoring new signings’ wages into the cost – if one replaces a leaver, then surely the leaver’s wages should be deducted at least.
It’s a daft way of accounting transfer fees anyway, the numbers mean nothing in isolation!
Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:32 PM
Comment #67One more piece of interesting news from nufc.com
Oldham’s stadium is now renamed to “SportsDirect.com Park.”
Sazzer
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:33 PM
Comment #68Our Toon
Bayern never let anybody go that they want to keep. I can’t remember one time that have happen.
But there is first time for everything.
Credit to Kroos if he decided to leave to play for lower wages because of Guardiolas tika-taka and Mad Moyes.
Geremi's Prosthetic Leg Fund
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:33 PM
Comment #69I agree, last year contracts/players out of form/ release clause etc. You name it, NUFC will try it. I very much doubt we will spend over 10 million pounds on a transfer fee alone. We haven’t for 6 years so why would again? Lacazette is seemingly our ‘star’ signing this summer and he still be under 10 mill pounds without wages factored in, I’m sure.
Sazzer
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:35 PM
Comment #70I would have expected a higher transfer fee for Kroos if Bayern didn’t want him gone.
BandB
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:35 PM
Comment #71Slank,
I’m not that old 🙂
Respect to you for that.
I started in 1983 (apart from been tagged along once or twice as a kid) against strugglers Chelsea in Division Two (I wonder what became of them?)
I think they nearly went down that season.
But THAT crowd had been brought up on tales of cup glories, which at that time weren’t in the far distant past (and when the Cup meant more than the league).
And I lived to see us compete well with the best in Europe and narrowly miss out on a league title.
As you did.
Are they no more to you than old fireside myths the like of which we can never hope to see again?
Average_Contents
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:36 PM
Comment #72Janmaat is also at the 2014 World Cup preparing for a quarter-final of his own with the Netherlands, and despite rumoured interest from Manchester United, there are a number of reports emerging from his motherland that Newcastle are close to sealing a deal with Feyenoord for the right-back.
The Dutch head-coach, Louis van Gaal, who is set to take over at Manchester United when the World Cup ends has naturally been linked with a large amount of his WC squad so it is no surprise that some sections of the media claimed that Janmaat was high up his shopping list.
According to Alfredo Pedulla – a verified Twitter sports journalist, he has released an ‘exclusive’ claiming that Newcastle have stolen a march on Napoli in the pursuit of Janmaat and that a deal has been agreed. This accompanies a number of other releases from some of the Dutch media.
It wouldn’t be much of a surprise to see Debuchy leave, and it’s hardly mind-boggling that we have been strongly linked with a natural right-back among all the commotion on Twitter and within the news outlets (Sky Sports, BBC).
beermonkey
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:37 PM
Comment #73sazzer
when debs goes we will prob move santon over and buy a youngster to fill in or ryan taylor could be the man offer cover either way when you look at it we don’t have to buy a replacment
all these rumours today lets not forget who we are owned by
jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:37 PM
Comment #74Maybe Ashley is running Newcastle like FIFA is being run! As a non profit organization and all that money is just a reserve 😉 lol
jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:38 PM
Comment #75Don’t even joke about Ryan Taylor!
Belfast
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:43 PM
Comment #76Seen the Oldham thing earlier.
There’s been a goal at the SportsDirect.com Park ?
Sounds marvellous
beermonkey
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:45 PM
Comment #77jesper
its no joke
even stevie taylor can fill in at right back
Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:46 PM
Comment #78At least we are now playing @ the St. James’ Park, not some freaky internet stadium.
jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:47 PM
Comment #79Beer…that’s hardly funny as well
Pizzicato The Arizona Geordie
Jul 3, 2014 at 5:47 PM
Comment #80Kevin Mbabu could play RB… Do you guys still remember him?