We haven’t heard too much from Argentine striker Facundu Ferreyra, who signed on a season-long loan from Shakhtar Donetsk in August.
Facundu Ferreyra – on a one year loan deal
Facundu has had difficulty making the first team squad so far, but we suppose he needs time to settle down and it looks like he was very impressive in the U21 5-0 win on Monday against Middlesbrough at St James’s Park.
Ferreyra did play in the pre-season, but has yet to make his debut at Newcastle with Papiss Cisse, Manu Riviere and young Spaniard Ayoze Perez all ahead of him in the pecking order.
It seems like U21 manager Peter Beardsley was impressed with what he saw on Monday:
“I have to say he’s been excellent for us,” “He hasn’t played many games for us, but he’s been outstanding.”
“He was involved in Arma’s first goal, and I just look at the things he does for the team and his attitude is incredible.”
“One day, hopefully, he’ll be a top player for us.” “His attitude is spot on – he’s brilliant around the training ground – and really, I couldn’t praise him enough.”
Ferreyra knew Newcastle captain Fab Coloccini, and it seems he was signed on loan on the recommendation of the Newcastle captain.
There was a report in the Chronicle a few weeks ago that Facundu was not impressing at all in training, but that report could have been untrue.
It seems the report yesterday that Vurnon Anita was grumbling to Alan Pardew about not getting into the squad was also untrue – according to the player himself.
Maybe Facundu can still come though soon for the side, but he will have to make a big impact in the first team, if he has any chance of making his loan deal permanent.
It’s good that he has a top class attitude, and it would be great if the Argentine can find his feet soon, and start playing well for the Newcastle first team.
What do you think?
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56 comments so far
BarcelonaMag
Nov 6, 2014 at 10:02 AM
Comment #1First! Who knows what’s up with Ferreyra? With the exception of Janmaat and Colback they all seem to be taking time to bed in. By the way, what’s happening with Riviére? Is he injured or out of form?
Phatoon
Nov 6, 2014 at 10:10 AM
Comment #2Riviere was injured. I think just before the Spurs game. He came on as a sub against Man City, but wasn’t in the squad for Liverpool. So maybe he got injured again.
Slank
Nov 6, 2014 at 10:25 AM
Comment #3Ed,
It would be a fantastic 5 nil result against Boro after the 5 nil result against Villa except we lost to Boro 2-1 and Ferryra didn’t play.
Against Villa, NUFC.Com said:
‘…Facundo Ferryra was then withdrawn, having produced little to suggest that he’ll be in Alan Pardew’s thoughts anytime soon. Anonymous in the first half, the on-loan striker played in Armstrong after the break and flashed a shot wide but looked way behind his younger local rival in terms of staking a first team place…’
Lilongwe Geordie
Nov 6, 2014 at 10:37 AM
Comment #4To be perfectly honest, I’d cancel the deal. It isn’t working out, and the fact he is struggling to get games for our second string by this stage is a worry. We play 1 up top, and have Cisse, Ayoze, Rivi and Arma. Plus we have Campbell back from injury who bagged a goal in the defeat against Boro.
While that isn’t the strongest of attacking quartets, I’d prefer to see Ayoze and Arma continue to get chances. If we look to bring in a top striker in Jan (unlikely, but we can hope) then I would get Arma out on loan then try and ship Rivi out next summer.
cyprus
Nov 6, 2014 at 10:37 AM
Comment #5Crazy game, football. NUFC.com sees a crap performance, Beardo sees a top player. Terrible attitude reported, the opposite stated here…
Hmm. I’ll go with the guy who understands football better. Beardo!
Jail for Ashley
Nov 6, 2014 at 10:38 AM
Comment #6From previous thread (s)
Santon has always stated he wants to stay and see out his contract. He’ll be sleeping with the fishes before he’s allowed to do that.
cyprus
Nov 6, 2014 at 10:40 AM
Comment #7Lil,
You’re shipping people out way to fast mate. If Rivi gets as much chance as Ober did, then I’ll place a side bet he’ll come good. I’ll be honest, I haven’t rated Arma in the little I’ve seen, but I wouldn’t ship just yet 🙂
This Argentine dude is supposed to be very good. Did he suddenly become crap?
Lilongwe Geordie
Nov 6, 2014 at 10:44 AM
Comment #8Cyprus,
If Ferreyra really performing in an outstanding fashion, showing an incredible attitude, and doing wonderful things for the team, then why isn’t he involved more for the first team? Or even for the second team for that matter!
Beardo is quite probably just trying to build up the players confidence. If what he said was even close to being factual he would have been far more involved then he has been.
Lilongwe Geordie
Nov 6, 2014 at 10:48 AM
Comment #9Cyprus,
Rivi was never much cop in France. He has a poor record, and I don’t really see why we spent money on him, nor did various French pundits or fans at the time! The French lads who I have met out here don’t rate him in the slightest, 1 is a Toulouse fan where Rivi used to play – he says that Sissoko still has some way to go to reach his potential which is promising mind!
On the Argentine, I have never seen him play, but he either hasn’t settled or isn’t up to it. He is on loan, and given the levels he has played at should be at least in the mix. I see it as no different from De Jong last season, was overhyped on arrival and will fail to deliver.
Slank
Nov 6, 2014 at 10:49 AM
Comment #10Ferreyra will have to be something special or the club suffers a catastrophic series of injuries to all its forwards at the same time as it would appear that Cisse, Riviere, Perez, Cabella and Armstrong are ahead of Ferreyra in the pecking order.
Jail for Ashley
Nov 6, 2014 at 10:51 AM
Comment #11Has anyone been following Gomis at all, I seen he scored one on the league cup but that’s it.
Jail for Ashley
Nov 6, 2014 at 10:54 AM
Comment #12Just looked at Forma Swansea, I think we’re quite lucky the way Ed keeps this place up to date with stories. Some blogs have threads every few days not few minutes.
Slank
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:00 AM
Comment #13Jail
Gomis would appear to be in the category (eg Van Wolfswinkel, Ruiz) that some fans raved about and subsequently criticized the club for not buying them and then quietly remained stum when the same players didn’t set the Premiership alright !
Lilongwe Geordie
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:01 AM
Comment #14Jail,
I haven’t really followed him, but Bony has been in good form and as Swansea just play 1 up front then it will be hard for Gomis to get a decent run.
Belfast
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:01 AM
Comment #15Did you manage to find our resident troll on the Swansea forum ? 🙂
70TWO
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:02 AM
Comment #16It is not just here, since leaving South America Facundu Ferreyra has failed to show the potential seen in the youtube videos and live up to the accolades. He was injured at Shakhtar Donetsk but otherwise played very little, perhaps he became very unsettled which was compounded by the war. If this is true it may take a while longer for him to find his feet again, if he ever does without having to return to his homeland….that reminds me of some else. In fact they should send him home and if they can cancel his loan deal, take another look mid January.
beermonkey
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:03 AM
Comment #17Lilongwe
both riviere and dejong last season were both asked to a job neither suited to or done before neither one is a target man I think its hard to judge player when there not used to that role also hard to judge any striker with us until there supported and not isolated
think it was perez first start pardew said he knew the tactics team set up didn’t suit him yet did it anyway changed it half time and he scores
I think its hard for any stiker at our club at the mo
Belfast
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:05 AM
Comment #18The guy must be a complete dud when he can’t even get a game in our carling cup team.
Maybe it was a favour for an agent again lol
expatmag
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:05 AM
Comment #19Ferrerya is a worry. Although he hadnt played last season, I feel it is 2 million thrown down the drain.
Riviere is more of a wide forward and not a target man. He is quite quick and strong. With Obertan out for months, maybe Riviere could be used as a wide forward in a 433 with Aarons and Cisse/Perez.
I also think Armstrong would benefit from 6 months on loan at a club like Derby in January.
expatmag
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:08 AM
Comment #20LIL
I only saw Gomis once this season when he came on as a sub at Man Utd in the first game of the season and I thought he was impressive.
Belfast
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:10 AM
Comment #21Beardsley is also Ashleys biggest fan. He would probably call one of Mikeys smelly turds “outstanding”
Slank
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:14 AM
Comment #22Expatmag
Riviere would appear to be the only forward we have who has the strength and physical presence to hold up a ball as a target man when marked by hairy arsed central defenders.
In certain formations and styles of play he would be ideal but I’m not sure that is the way we are playing now or will play in the future. Perez and Cabella demonstrated against Liverpool that between them they looked a handful.
70TWO
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:16 AM
Comment #23expatmag
IMO Armstrong should be loaned to a club in the Netherlands to get experience of a different football culture and broaden the development of his game. Luuk de Jong is performing really well at PSV Eindhoven and would probably take him under his wing there. Phillip Cocu would also be a great mentor and he has got them to the top of the league.
Slank
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:18 AM
Comment #2470TWO @ 23
Good call’
Lilongwe Geordie
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:18 AM
Comment #25Beer,
I agree, Rivi isn’t a target man. He is big, but doesn’t look strong in the slightest. The only chance he has at this club is if he turns into Goofy mkII and becomes a winger. I admit, that is possible, but he would have to step up every facet of his game to do this well for us.
G
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:18 AM
Comment #2670 TWO, not having a go or anything here mate, but why do you think Cocu who has a wonderful academy system would possibly want somebody elses academy lad just to give them a bit of game time? I agree that it would be wonderful for him, but PSV?
70TWO
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:23 AM
Comment #27According to the stats (except goal difference) WBA are very much our equal and it should be a good game and an interesting challenge. I would very much like to see a forward line of Aarons – Perez – Cabella, they would offer a lot of quickness that will cause them real difficulty and bang in a few goals. If we try to defend the whole game it will be a complete loss.
expatmag
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:24 AM
Comment #28I dont know whether Arma would get a decent enough run over there and the dutch dont appear to borrow english players that often.
Riviere hasnt shown any ability as yet to play as the target man in my opinion and his history appears to show he performs better as a second striker or as a wide forward.
expatmag
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:26 AM
Comment #2970two
I agree. It should be a cracking game. They should not be under estimated.
70TWO
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:28 AM
Comment #30G
Just seen their full squad and does appear to be more than full of forwards. It was more of an example really, trying to think more laterally and to get the most benefit for a players development. Rather than just being farmed out domestically in the hope of more game time. Abeid has certainly improved from experiencing a different footballing culture and I think more effort should be made to get more of the same for young players (and not just Scotland).
Reyantoon
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:30 AM
Comment #31We should forget about ferreyra,he couldn’t make it.bad investment.Better concentrate on developing Armstrong and Perez.Didn’t saw him playing except one time in preseason. It will be great if he make it but I don’t think so.Not PL standard player.It will be much better to re-loan him to other clubs in jan and bring other better skrs than him like Ings,wickham,
as these are cheaper options..
Slank
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:32 AM
Comment #32In some respects what Armstrong needs is a bit of good fortune at the expense of someone else’s misfortune.
It is arguable that Dummitt is only playing because Santon has been injured for so long. Similarly with Perez who was seen, rightly or wrongly, as a development player but through circumstances (including his own ability) of Cisse and Riviere being injured has forced his way into contention. Perhaps Abeid will take his opportunity at the expense of Tiote. I hope so.
Obertan’s lengthy injury now provides an opportunity for others to stake their claim.
G
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:32 AM
Comment #33Fair enough, great example, completely agreed with it, just kinda couldn’t get my head round it either mate.
G
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:36 AM
Comment #34@32, good point. I was reading recently that they considered booting Rolando, but he spent all his summer in the gym and forced his own way into the picture. Fair enough, gym time doesnt do that for everybody, but oportunities can happen, sometimes, as you quite correctly state through missfortune of others. I agree we should try Riverre in Obertans place?
mag92
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:36 AM
Comment #35Riviere, has only played 8 games and scored 2 goals, so give the kid a chance and he’s been injured.
70TWO
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:39 AM
Comment #36Riviere looks strong and is capable of battling with defenders but looks like he is trying to fit into the role of a lone striker, rather than being in a more favoured and comfortable position. There is potential but IMO it is another example of recruitment being done on the cheap rather than addressing the need of the squad and playing style of the coach. The upside is that it forces AP to not play hoofball constantly.
Slank
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:42 AM
Comment #3770TWO
Abeid said about his loan spell that it improved his game playing regularly in the first team but also made him grow up and mature.
A problem could be for someone like Armstrong, especially being a local lad, is that he becomes too settled in his comfort zone. Perhaps he needs a greater challenge at a different club where is local roots don’t mean anything.
70TWO
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:46 AM
Comment #38G
Also the language would not be a problem over there and he would not be too far away from his Mam.
Jail for Ashley
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:46 AM
Comment #39Slank,
A Swans fan on Gomis
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/swansea-city-fan-steven-carroll-7737492
mag92
Nov 6, 2014 at 11:46 AM
Comment #40Riviere looked okay when he’s got players supporting him up front, the loan striker role isn’t his game.