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Carver Smashes Back At Criticism From Former Players

John Carver has hit back at the football pundits who were former players but have never actually been in football management, so it’s sometimes unfair when they criticize John Carver, who at least is in the heat of the battle – and not sitting in a comfortable studio passing judgement while watching the TV.

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John Carver – reacts to pundits’ criticisms

John is having a real tough time of it at Newcastle with just two wins in the 15 games he’s been in charge of Newcastle, and he has responded to the criticism of former players by hitting back at Michael Owen for one,  who couldn’t save Newcastle from relegation six years ago when in the last few games with Alan Shearer as the manager he couldn’t even get in the side.

This is what John Carver has said:

““I could be nasty about Michael, because let’s not forget what happened when he was here.” 

I don’t have a problem with anyone having an opinion,” “Where I have the problem is when there’s people that have an opinion, who have never been in this situation; never been in my situation.”

“They have never had to pick a team when you have got so many injuries, suspensions, or dealing with situations on the training ground or things coming from left field.”  “When I see someone like Peter Reid go on TV, who has been in this situation, he has managed in this region, he understands what it feels like. I respect what he says.”

“I accept that the likes of Michael Owen, Jamie Carragher, whoever (maybe add in Gary Neville John),  have played hundreds of Premier League football matches and I haven’t (neither has Jose Mourinho).  But sometimes there has to be a little bit of sympathy with the people doing this job.”  “When you have never gone in and put your little foot in the water and tested it, then it is a little different.”

“It’s easy talking with a tactics board but all of a sudden in this position you have to make a decision because your back four is not high enough, or someone is causing you problems because of it. If you don’t see that during a game then you have a problem. That’s the difference, and people don’t see that.”

“There are a lot of people out there who don’t do it because they can’t do it.”

That last line is very accurate and Alan Shearer himself has admitted he would be mad to go back into management given all the stresses and all the criticism football managers get these days.

More attention should probably be paid on Tyneside to the Newcastle players, who are hardly helping John in his quest to get some wins under his belt to save Newcastle,  and several of them are acting and playing like complete wimps, with no spirit or fight anywhere to be seen.

But when you get a big job – even temporarily – like the Newcastle job – you are going to get plenty of criticism, and it’s going to be heavy at times but it’s all part of the job.

The very best in the business like Sir Alex Ferguson, Jose Mourinho, Arsene Wenger  and current Bayern Munich coach Pep Guardiola have had their fair share of criticism over the years, and most of it has been grossly unfair – and they are the very best in the business.

And when the great Bobby Robson was manager of England, we don’t remember a manager who took so much unjustified criticism, than he got in those eight years.

But that didn’t stop Bobby getting England to the quarter-finals of the World Cup in 1986, when we were beaten by the hand of God,  and the semi-finals in 1990 when we were beaten at the death by Germany on penalties.

John should probably grow a thicker layer of skin, because if you get this level of criticism thrown at you – it simply means you have a big job – and that cannot be all that bad.

John has been criticized for his coaching on many quarters,  but it’s only on a professional level  and nobody has ever questioned his commitment to the cause, or his work ethic this year – John’s working his socks off to try to get Newcastle some wins.

But John does have a point when these former professionals sit in the warm studio and make pronouncements on stuff – and get on the blackboard and spend 15 minutes talking about what John should have done in that specific minute during the game – yeah – right.

But that’s the way the world is – and it’s not going to change anytime soon.

What John can do to respond to these criticisms is to inspire his players today – even drop the ones who will not play for him – and what we want to see from the team is 100% all-out effort – if they do that we’ll be happy enough.

And in  any case when you respond to criticism, all it really does is legitimize it.

We are hoping Newcastle can get the win tomorrow, and we’ll be very happy campers.

Howay The Lads!!

Comments welcome.

46 comments so far

  • Laurent Robert 32

    Apr 25, 2015 at 12:51 AM

    Comment #1

    You’re not up to it, John. Not your fault to a degree, you’re just not at the required quality level. No shame in it, but dragging the team down with you won’t do anyone any good.

  • Pop n Wyn

    Apr 25, 2015 at 1:04 AM

    Comment #2

    Carver is under real pressure, he has a point about the analysts who have not ever been in his position, it was thrust on him when Pardew left and to be fair it has been a bit of a nightmare up to now, i personally see a draw 2moro, lifts the pressure a wee bit.

    The hiarachy have put this club in this position througgh not buying when we are in need,

    Looking at our potential lightweight midfield it is not one any prem team would feat whatsoever, in fact its weaker than our relegation midfield quite easy, sucha sorry state of affairs, they want there harris kicking big style,

  • Mister Tuff

    Apr 25, 2015 at 1:13 AM

    Comment #3

    jimmy – re your previous post. I do not think anyone can safely suggest a distinction or a separation between SD and Newcastle United. Mr Tubbs being the majority shareholder in SD, Tubbs owning the club, all merchandise for the club with SD connections, SD advertising at the ground.
    The programme on Monday evening might suggest to an ordinary member of the public or indeed a Toon fan what Mr Tubbs is all about. This may inform the debate that his SD outlets are legitimate targets as well.
    I recall, if memory serves me correctly that you are in Japan – will you be able to see the Dispatches programme there.

  • sickandtired

    Apr 25, 2015 at 1:19 AM

    Comment #4

    I can’t recall anyone forcing the job on Carver. He took it, agreed the squad needed no January additions – yet now he’s saying hes stuck with what he got.
    As per Pardew- if you don’t like the hand you have been dealt, and why (Ashley) stop supporting that.
    Cant have it both ways, JC.

  • jimmysmith

    Apr 25, 2015 at 1:52 AM

    Comment #5

    Tuff, it just seems a comprehensive leap to me, to go from match day boycott, where the fan base can be seen to express a view one way or another, a balanced protest, to SD picket and so I’m struggling with it. I recognise of course SD is plastered all over St James’, doesn’t pay for it and has highly dubious operating practices. I could see the validity in picketing SD for that, but to get Ashley Out, seems a bit problematic. Ciaran’s right of course, my approval or otherwise isn’t required.

  • Mister Tuff

    Apr 25, 2015 at 2:03 AM

    Comment #6

    jimmy – I think that Mr Tubbs will in the coming days be rising up the league to be public enemy number 1 and not the super efficient darling of the business world.
    I think all the anti publicity will have an effect.
    But we’ll all have to wait to see what transpires.

  • Laurent Robert 32

    Apr 25, 2015 at 2:25 AM

    Comment #7

    Jimmy, it’s just more varied suggestions of activism against him. In my opinion it is excellent, because it’s doing something pro-active and engaging fan activity on different angles against him.

    As I’ve said before, sackpardew/ashleyout have got an excellent knack of great publicity and giving people a direction for meaningful participation. There is no one ‘thing’ which will get Ashley out, but pressure on him from all directions will at some point catch him off guard.

    Doing something is better than nothing.

    Ashley out.

  • Magpie Season

    Apr 25, 2015 at 2:26 AM

    Comment #8

    Not sure why he doesn’t play R.Taylor at LB position instead of Anita.
    The season we finished 5th he played as LB.

    Ed is saying to drop the players who do not perform or put the effort in. Drop for who? With how threadbare the squad is, the players know even if they perform at 20% they will still start next week. After all who is going to replace them? If it was any other manager they would be bold & drop the player for a kid from U21s.


    Apr 25, 2015 at 3:19 AM

    Comment #9

    so who are the WIMPS in our squad

  • catchy in norway

    Apr 25, 2015 at 3:27 AM

    Comment #10

    Magpie Season

    we might have finished 5th that season, but playing raylor at LB is the reason we lost Jonas as an attaking player, he stayed back to help raylor out then turned into a 3rd DMC.

    Raylor should not get near the pitch IMO, his only position should be back up to a winger, he took a good free kick.

    anita for me is a tidy player, who has done a great job at LB.

  • catchy in norway

    Apr 25, 2015 at 3:28 AM

    Comment #11

    Magpie Season

    your other point,

    Obertan and Goofy should be dropped from the squad, kids would do a better job just by being on the pitch running and showing effort

  • Magpie Season

    Apr 25, 2015 at 4:17 AM

    Comment #12


    “Anita is a tidy player” – this made me crack up. I noticed that no one in the team wants to pass him the ball, even if it’s a short simple pass, as there is 80% chance he would lose possession. So they choose to run with it instead, & we end up losing possession anyway, just a couple of seconds later.

    I agree with the kids but we don’t have a history of ever giving anyone from U21s time on the pitch, not since Nile Ranger broke onto the scene. Who else has been given chances consistently, even as a sub? I mean, why have an U21 side, it is only used for players to get back to match fitness. The players that also could have come in have gone on loan.

    This would have been the perfect opportunity to give Streete some games, as the club valued his potential more over Satka, & let the latter go to Rangers. But no.

    I remember last season, Chelsea’s Kalas was given a go, before Zouma came in, Mourinho did not play another first team player out of position at CB but had faith in him. We should have done this with Streete, or Satka since he was left here.

  • mecannylad

    Apr 25, 2015 at 4:20 AM

    Comment #13

    That was one hell of an exchange between Ciaran and Blackley earlier ….. quite enjoyable even though it was intellectually out of my league. Thanks fellas.
    On a more down to earth level; The amount of interest created around Mike Ashley both from inside and out of the NUFC fan-base following next weeks TV revelation will surely gather apace spectacularly. He’ll probably never set foot in SJP on match days again and its only a matter of time before we all get what we have been wishing for… the collateral damage is another thing nonetheless.

  • lochinvar

    Apr 25, 2015 at 4:24 AM

    Comment #14

    Carver, ““I could be nasty about Michael, because let’s not forget what happened when he was here.”

    Well John, you maybe very right on that one but the problem is opening your gob and saying it. Every time you trot out such comments we cringe. You have to be above this sort of playground histrionics it’s demeaning to you and NUFC .
    Keep your powder dry.
    Let your coaching not your talking do the job.
    What we want is for the club to be run professionally to reflect the spirit and ambitions of the fans and as a consequence to be a beacon for the toon.
    Quality is all.

  • headtheball

    Apr 25, 2015 at 5:18 AM

    Comment #15

    Could this quote be the problem with our coaching staff, the team, our strikers, or us as supporters?

    If all you can see are obstacles, you have lost sight of the goals.

    Ashley Out

  • one fine day

    Apr 25, 2015 at 5:22 AM

    Comment #16

    from previous stream
    santoon // Apr 25, 2015 at 12:46 AM

    have we tried gouffran as striker before because wasnt he a striker in france before coming to nufc cos he is invisible in midfield

    agree and I said as much earlier yesterday .
    I have been one to just depair this year and most of last watching him effectively be the weakest link and wonder why he is never dropped.
    but he was brought here as a striker and seeing as how we are all coming up with this and that solution then why not give him a shot .
    unlike most of our available forwards he HAS actualy SCORED GOALS when used up from.
    At least playing him there will be a good test to see if we keep him or peddle him back to France in the summer.
    simply sticking him in midfield or to cover full backs is just a waste of what was, a decent looking player at one stage.

  • bobby mango

    Apr 25, 2015 at 6:30 AM

    Comment #17

    He’s a fool that let’s his mouth run away from him. He contradicts himself in nearly every interview, if he doesn’t contradict himself within the interview he’ll do another one a few days after to contradict himself. His record with it is nearly as consistent as his terrible results.

    Fact is someone like Pulis, Sherwood, even Redknapp would’ve organised and motivated that squad a lot more successfully. And I don’t like any of them. Hell even Pardew would’ve done better off he’d stayed and that’s saying something.

    If Gouffran starts today he has no right to defend himself.

  • scout

    Apr 25, 2015 at 6:32 AM

    Comment #18

    You hit the nail on the head John they dont do it because they cant do it. They are saying you cant do it, but you do it.

    Play a video in the dressing room of the Newcastle v man u game when we won 5 nil the place was bouncing. Ask them to make it bounce again foe you.

  • scout

    Apr 25, 2015 at 6:34 AM

    Comment #19


  • Tinman

    Apr 25, 2015 at 6:39 AM

    Comment #20

    Thick as pigs!!!

  • Tinman

    Apr 25, 2015 at 6:39 AM

    Comment #21

    I reckon 63% of fans could out manage Carver.

  • scout

    Apr 25, 2015 at 6:48 AM

    Comment #22

    Jc if you read this I have a great idea. As a young man I enjoyed nothing more than going to the match. But I could also watch the players training at Maiden Castle in Durham, this was a great idea to allow the fans to engage with the players.
    I personally think it should be brought back.

  • Tinman

    Apr 25, 2015 at 7:16 AM

    Comment #23

    Agreee with that scouty lad

  • TheToonKing

    Apr 25, 2015 at 7:22 AM

    Comment #24

    I really had it with Carver. What an arrogant, delusional c3nt.

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Apr 25, 2015 at 7:22 AM

    Comment #25

    He doesn’t respond very well to constructive criticism…

    …nothing seems to be taken on board. All the signs of a bad leader.

    Carver I think some reflection is in order!

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Apr 25, 2015 at 7:31 AM

    Comment #26

    You are working for the worse PL owner (and you refuse to recognize it)

    …why is that? Is your job security more important?

  • scout

    Apr 25, 2015 at 7:39 AM

    Comment #27

    Why is he having a go at the pundits? They’re doing their jobs. Yours is to win football matches John. Dont moan about injuries when in January we had every chance to sign players but NO we sell them and sell the manager.
    You said in January you were happy with whoever goes out and whoever comes in. You’ll deal with the players put infront of you.
    So dont make excuses, how can a team win 6 and lose 6 in a row in the same season?????

  • Tinman

    Apr 25, 2015 at 7:45 AM

    Comment #28

    Carver is just thick as pigs. There is nothing else too it! Complete and utter moron

  • Jail for Ashley

    Apr 25, 2015 at 7:49 AM

    Comment #29

    Magpie season,
    RTaylor is a right sided midfielder who was thrust in as LB due to the penny pinching of Mashley, that eleven match unbeaten run had a lot more to do with Danny Simpsons goal line clearances than RTaylors ability as a wrong sided full back.

  • scout

    Apr 25, 2015 at 7:52 AM

    Comment #30

    Owen 26 in 71

    Look at Gouffrans scoring prowess???
    And hes still getting in the side.

  • jesperfuglsang - capt'n awesome of the lemon crew

    Apr 25, 2015 at 8:00 AM

    Comment #31

    Are people getting ready for #BoycottSwansea?

    …lets see if we can get some focus on attendance this time so the club will not get away with releasing the inaccurate numbers!

    …the numbers are important regardless of what some posters says…the numbers are the benchmark for alot of undecided supporters!

  • one fine day

    Apr 25, 2015 at 8:16 AM

    Comment #32

    Jesper, as most seats are held by season ticket holders we could have an empty ground and still post 45k
    we need photographic proof inside with a time stamp to prove its not taken with 5 mins left .

    Wonder if our portly double act will take their seats today ,if not does that mean even Ashley and Charnley are supporting us?:)

  • yorkymag

    Apr 25, 2015 at 8:25 AM

    Comment #33

    Blah blah blah
    It’s never your fault eh john boy
    Let’s face it how could carver be a pundit with the shit he comes out with

    Then again how could he be a man

  • Toon-Prodigy

    Apr 25, 2015 at 8:27 AM

    Comment #34

    Forget about John Carver and get on that slimey wrongings back.

    The team needs us all and it’s not their fault we are so ill equipped for the job in hand.

    Get that win John.

    Come on Newcastle.

  • yorkymag

    Apr 25, 2015 at 8:28 AM

    Comment #35

    Sorry last word manager not man

  • scout

    Apr 25, 2015 at 8:32 AM

    Comment #36

    Unless everyone who goes wheres seat grey then it will all look empty

  • scout

    Apr 25, 2015 at 8:33 AM

    Comment #37

    Unless everyone who goes wears seat grey then it will all look empty

  • lochinvar

    Apr 25, 2015 at 8:34 AM

    Comment #38

    Thought for the day,
    Apply to Ashley, Carver, Penfold as required


  • yorkymag

    Apr 25, 2015 at 8:40 AM

    Comment #39

    I was in your camp but I think the players are in this too
    They are among the laziest bunch I have seen in over 25 years at sjp
    They don’t care on the whole ,they have no discipline either in shape taktics or respect
    They have in many cases gone on holiday and reluctantly I have too

    But don’t imo let anyone pretend the players at it
    And that is unacceptable in my book
    Stay up go down it does not matter any more


    Apr 25, 2015 at 8:43 AM

    Comment #40

    Carver this is how to beat Swansea today!!!

    I would gan with 4-4-2

    Janmaat, Williamson, Coloccini (c), Anita,
    Cabella, Colback, Abeid, Perez,
    Armstrong, Ferreyra,
    Subs: Woodman, Sterry, Riviere, De Jong, Gutierrez, Kemen, Ameobi


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