Wolfsburg Sporting Director Klaus Allofs at Bundesliga club Wolfsburg has given his opinion on the Newcastle offer for one of our top targets Bas Dost – and it looks like Newcastle are going about their business a sin the past by putting in very low bids – and sometimes the bid is so low that they start to lose credibility with the selling team.
That may have happened with our offer for Bas Dost, and Klaus Allofs has talked to SoccerNews and what he’s said doesn’t sound too good for Newcastle, and he compares the Newcastle offer to Liverpool’s offer for Roberto Firmino which was a massive £29M and successful:
Bas Dost – compared to Roberto Firmino – who went for £29M
This is what Klaus Allofs has said:
“I read lump sum payments from €10M to €12M (£8.5M) for Bas, but then I refer to Roberto Firmino’s example and say they will have to get used to higher amounts if any club really wants to buy Dost.”
Brazilian International Firmino wasn’t really worth £29M but that’s what Liverpool were willing to pay – maybe because they are getting close to £50M for Raheem Sterling from Manchester City.
Roberto only scored 7 goals in 33 games last season but Dost was much more successful with 16 goals in 21 league games.
But there’s no way 26 year-old Dost is worth anywhere near £29M – and if that’s what Wolfsburg want for him then forget it – we should be signing Charlie Austin for £15M as our next step – and do that as soon as we can.
And pay the full £15M for him.
But that may be difficult now with Charlie on honeymoon, but what have we been doing these last three weeks?
The problem in transfers for Premier League clubs nowadays is that they will be asked huge sums by selling clubs, because they are well aware of the vast amounts the clubs get – such as the £78M we received at the end of May.
And at the start of next season – August next year – those amounts rise by a massive 70%.
Newcastle maybe could have bid more than the €12M (£8.5M) they bid last week — but he’s not worth £15M – if that – given what Austin is on sale for.
If something approaching £29M is the fee Wolfsburg want for Dost – then it’s even more reason we should be tying up the deal for the QPR striker.
But we don’t believe £29M is the amount, but they want more for Dost than he’s really worth, because they got lucky with Firmino.
What do you think?
Comments welcome.
61 comments so far
WWSBRD
Jun 29, 2015 at 10:36 PM
Comment #1Shut up Wolfsburg we will pay u what we want and ull bleeding well like it!
WWSBRD
Jun 29, 2015 at 10:37 PM
Comment #2No respect I tells ya!
musomag
Jun 29, 2015 at 10:39 PM
Comment #3Both strikers would be great, especially if Cisse is going. My preference would be Austin as he’s proved he can do the job in this league and has attracted so many Shearer comparisons over the past few seasons
WWSBRD
Jun 29, 2015 at 10:41 PM
Comment #4Shearer comparisons? Think u got the wrong English striker for that bud
musomag
Jun 29, 2015 at 10:45 PM
Comment #5Been reading about them drawing similarities on here for a few years now, Shearer himself seems to think CA’s the man for the job
Belfast
Jun 29, 2015 at 10:48 PM
Comment #6Apologies If I’m wrong Muso. I’m deeply suspicious of nearly everybody at the moment to be honest.
ToonFromLeeds
Jun 29, 2015 at 10:52 PM
Comment #7Belfast
I’m more confused with YoungMagpie
Belfast
Jun 29, 2015 at 10:53 PM
Comment #8It’s been a long time from I floated down great Victoria Street muso.
I quit the disco biscuits manymoons ago.
lesh
Jun 29, 2015 at 10:53 PM
Comment #9Repost from previous
Ah, it’s Monday and bids are being reported.
So, does that mean that friend Charnley has really been on holiday while other clubs are signing up players and he’s now thinking about buying players we so desperately need?
If he has been away, he ought to be sacked!
WWSBRD
Jun 29, 2015 at 10:54 PM
Comment #10musomag
I’ve barely seen Austins name mentioned in the same sentence as Shearer if am honest. And wor Alan is more keen to join the Kane bandwagon…although admittedly his face tells a different story when he’s met with the “Harry Kane looks just like u used to, don’t talk think?” Question
ToonFromLeeds
Jun 29, 2015 at 10:55 PM
Comment #11Lesh,
Charmlesss shoulda been sacked already
WWSBRD
Jun 29, 2015 at 10:55 PM
Comment #12Belfast/TFL
I say don’t trust anyone! Not even yourselves! Certainly not Belfast though
musomag
Jun 29, 2015 at 10:58 PM
Comment #13Belfast that’s absolutely fair enough mate, I get that 100%.
I admit I’ve had banter over the past few years but also being from your neck of the woods I use humour as a coping mechanism….unfortunately not everyone gets it.
NezzaNUFC
Jun 29, 2015 at 11:04 PM
Comment #14New financial year is around the corner, then we will see some action.
Bas Dost! I only hope we pull out of this deal
Belfast
Jun 29, 2015 at 11:04 PM
Comment #15It’s just the general goings on here at the moment mate. I wouldn’t take offence about it. The star of the show has many personalities some nice, some not so nice it’s hard to keep up. Lol
Belfast
Jun 29, 2015 at 11:07 PM
Comment #16I agree Wwsbrd don’t trust anybody especially not me lol
musomag
Jun 29, 2015 at 11:13 PM
Comment #17I understand and I’m intrigued as to what’s been going on…but I’ll try to ignore it and hope a few quality signings will shock everyone into football mode.
BTW – I still like floating out of the Crown after a few too many when I’m back, why change the habit of a lifetime?
banjax
Jun 29, 2015 at 11:15 PM
Comment #18The value of a player is based on who is willing to pay the money. You can’t blame Newcastle for resisting paying stupid money for average players whose goals could dry up in a flash. He is not worth over £20m and Newcastle would be bloody stupid to pay it !
Belfast
Jun 29, 2015 at 11:21 PM
Comment #19I enjoy posting on here like and can normally deal with the multiples. Their only really annoying when abusive in my opinion.
The author of the blog needs to sort the abusive ones out.
The other blog doesn’t have this problem for a reason: They ban their Ip address so they can’t returm.
Ed should be doing the same thing.
ToonFromLeeds
Jun 29, 2015 at 11:27 PM
Comment #20Belfast
Sounds like a cracking idea
musomag
Jun 29, 2015 at 11:32 PM
Comment #21+1
Lindisfarne
Jun 29, 2015 at 11:34 PM
Comment #22Here is one for the Midnight Tokers:
Think of some categories and sort out the players we have been linked with –
Abdennour Aymen (Monaco) Defender
Aubameyang Pierre-Emerick (Borussia Dortmund) Striker
Austin Charlie (QPR) Striker
Ayew Andre (Marseille) Winger ***SIGNED FOR SWANSEA 10 JUNE
Bacca Carlos (Sevilla) Striker
Ba Demba (Besiktas) Striker
Bamford Patrick (Chelsea) Striker
Beck Andreas (Hoffenheim) Defender
Berahino Saido (West Brom) Striker
Berisha Veton (Viking) Striker
Bolasie Yannick (Crystal Palace) Winger
Byram Sam (Leeds) Defender
Cabaye Yohan (PSG) Midfielder
Carroll Andy (West Ham) Striker
Chester James (Hull) Defender
Cissako Yarouba (Monaco) Defender
Cleverley Tom(Manchester United) Midfielder ***SIGNED FOR EVERTON 5 JUNE
Cole Ashley (AS Roma) Defender
Concha David (Racing Santander) Winger
Cousins Jordan (Charlton) Midfielder
Dawson Craig (West Brom) Defender
Deeney Troy (Watford) Striker
Denayer Jason (Manchester City) Defender
Dost Bas (Wolfsburg) Striker
Downing Stewart (West Ham) Winger
Dunk Lewis (Brighton) Defender
Elmohamady Ahmed (Hull) Winger
Fer Leroy (QPR) Midfielder
Fox Morgan (Charlton) Defender
Furlong Darnell (QPR) Defender
Gameiro Kevin (Sevilla) Striker
Gignac Andre-Pierre (Marseille) Striker ***SIGNED FOR TIGRES UANL 18 JUNE
Ginnelly Josh (Shrewsbury) Winger
Gomez Joe (Charlton) Defender ***SIGNED FOR LIVERPOOL 20 JUNE
Heaton Tom (Burnley) Goalkeeper
Hernandez Abel (Hull) Striker
Hughes Will (Derby) Midfielder
Ighalo Odion (Watford) Striker
Ince Tom (Hull) Winger
Ings Danny (Burnley) Striker ***SIGNED FOR LIVERPOOL 8 JUNE
Juanmi (Malaga) Striker ***SIGNED FOR SOUTHAMPTON 17 JUNE
Kante Ngolo (Caen) Midfielder
Keogh Richard (Derby) Defender
Konate Moussa (FC Sion) Striker
Konoplyanka Yehven (Dnipro) Winger
Krejci Ladislav (Sparta Prague) Winger
Lambert Rickie (Liverpool) Striker
Lingard Jesse (Manchester United) Midfielder
Matip Joel (Schalke) Defender
Mbemba Chancel (Anderlecht) Defender
McClean James (Wigan) Winger ***SIGNED FOR WEST BROM 22 JUNE
Mere Jorge (Sporting Gijon) Defender
Mings Tyrone (Ipswich) Defender ***SIGNED FOR BOURNEMOUTH 26 JUNE
Mitrovic Aleksandar (Anderlecht) Striker
N’Doye Dame (Hull) Striker
Pato Alexandre (Sao Paolo) Striker
Payet Dimitri (Marseille) Midfielder ***SIGNED FOR WEST HAM 26 JUNE
Pedranza Alfonso (Villarreal) Winger
Promes Quincy (Spartak Moscow) Winger
Ramirez Sandro (Barcelona) Striker
Remy Loic (Chelsea) Striker
Richards Micah (Manchester City) ***SIGNED FOR ASTON VILLA 17 JUNE
Rhodes Jordan (Blackburn) Striker
Rolan Diego (Bordeaux) Striker
Sakho Diafra (West Ham) Striker
Sako Bakary (Wolves) Winger
Sam Sidney (Shalke) Striker
Sanson Morgan (Montpellier) Midfielder
Schar Fabian (Basel) Defender
Sepe Luigi (Napoli) Goalkeeper
Thauvin Florian (Marseille) Winger
Townsend Andros (Tottenham) Winger
Van Ginkel Marco (Chelsea) Midfielder
Veltman Joel (Ajax) Defender
Wass Daniel (Evian) Midfielder
Wijnaldum Georginio (PSV) Midfielder
Wilson James (Manchester United) Striker
I would probably go with:
1) Agents pushing up potential price
2) Stalking Horse
3) Too good
4) Too bad (please no)
5) Too expensive
6) End of contract
7) Injury prone
Lindisfarne
Jun 29, 2015 at 11:36 PM
Comment #23Those categories are in order of rising potential of possible transfer to NUFC.
ToonFromLeeds
Jun 29, 2015 at 11:44 PM
Comment #24is Thauvin worth £14 million?
https://nufcdigest.wordpress.com/2015/06/29/newcastle-must-spend-14m-to-sign-florian-thauvin/
I’d prefer Matt Phillips and he’d be much cheaper
mactoon
Jun 29, 2015 at 11:46 PM
Comment #25He mentioned 8.5 million for dost and if that’s what we have offered he is 100% correct it should be higher. If the club value him at 10-15 million.. JUST PAY IT!!! Same with Austin. Stop messing about with our clubs future and pay the club’s valuation given the profit we have made so far otherwise we haven’t learned a thing from last season’s debacle and the whole board should be removed as they are not fit for purpose
YoungMagpieFromBurnley
Jun 29, 2015 at 11:47 PM
Comment #26It seems extremely awkward to post now… But here goes,
I’m really surprised that the club haven’t announced the arrival of Cathro yet, they must be announcing the whole staff together. Hopefully that’s tomorrow!!
Really happy with that signing though, it’s nice to have a change from the usual, should influence the squad positively.
YoungMagpieFromBurnley
Jun 29, 2015 at 11:50 PM
Comment #27TFL
Matty Phillips? I agree with that, he looked good last season.
ToonFromLeeds
Jun 29, 2015 at 11:54 PM
Comment #28YMFB
Phillips is quick powerful and strong, would take him anyday
ToonFromLeeds
Jun 29, 2015 at 11:57 PM
Comment #29Mactoon
I agree if we are seriously after Austin then pay what is required but don’t want dost
YoungMagpieFromBurnley
Jun 29, 2015 at 11:59 PM
Comment #30The reason I would choose Phillips over Thauvin is that he has shown that he can perform well in the premier league, he is also English, and will cost considerably less.
ToonFromLeeds
Jun 30, 2015 at 12:00 AM
Comment #31nearly YMFB he;s Scottish lol
mickalfas
Jun 30, 2015 at 12:03 AM
Comment #32Dream on ,the tap in king
Not good enough !
Austin,Mitrovic, Perez and Cisse as our 4 CF’s
soundoid
Jun 30, 2015 at 12:04 AM
Comment #33Why the hell can’t we pay the asking price for players. Yeah haggle but if we want them at the club we should pay the going rate.
We are not skint.
We’ll get a shit load more cash next season.
Playing the game of maximum profits as opposed to league position hasn’t done us any good over the past 4 years.
Spend the cash create a buzz about the place. We are not a pound shop. We are a premium brand thats been devalued. Splash the cash Ash.
YoungMagpieFromBurnley
Jun 30, 2015 at 12:11 AM
Comment #34TFL
Oh dear haha it’s late 😉 well that’s my excuse anyway!!
He will cost even less then, sign him up !
expatmag
Jun 30, 2015 at 12:46 AM
Comment #35TFL
Phillips is actually English. Born in Aylesbury. He is a scottish international by virtue of grand parentage
leonado_keng
Jun 30, 2015 at 2:14 AM
Comment #36Board of newcastle and Mike, you should show your ambitions and intentions to success much more than existing ?, you have a lot money but you not to close to your target at all
ToonFromLeeds
Jun 30, 2015 at 2:20 AM
Comment #37Expat
I know that but in football he is classed as Scottish as he represents them
expatmag
Jun 30, 2015 at 3:13 AM
Comment #38Guus Hiddink gas resigned as Hollands manager.
If Ashley had any sense, he should immediately appoint him to the DOF role and appoint him to the board.
willowdalerez
Jun 30, 2015 at 3:36 AM
Comment #39Wolfsburg wants more… fair enough question is at what point does it just make sense to buy Austin instead? Both were great last season. My temptation is to lean towards Austin because of his English experience but both would meet our need for a striker I just hope we don’t lose out on both because of underbidding!
lesh
Jun 30, 2015 at 4:26 AM
Comment #40Expat
Of course Hiddink would be an assert ay the Club but are you certain that good sense and Ashley are a natural fit?
Ashley’s track record of appointments have been questionable to say the least.