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Graham Carr Leaving – It Will Greatly Simplify Things At Newcastle


We read with some interest the local reports today about what really happened in the January transfer window that left manager Rafa Benitez less than pleased – and that caused some (considerable) worry among Newcastle fans.

But it seems that half way through the January window in meetings with Mike Ashley, Graham Carr and others had differing views on who should be brought in (if anybody) during January window and there was even supposed to be some negative criticism of Rafa’s signing of players like Matz Sels, Jesus Gamez and Ashraf Lazaar.

It seemed to us it was a min-power play by those who used to be in charge of transfers and the result was deadlock in January and Mike Ashley seemed to be swayed to pull the plug on what Rafa wanted.

That was not good.

The triumvirate at Newcastle Mike Ashley, Rafa Benitez and Lee Charnley

So with Graham Carr leaving the club by mutual consent yesterday it seems there will be few arguments now about who our transfer targets are  – but of course good discussion on various players never hurt anybody.

But we have to give Mike Ashley some credit (sorry if you were eating your dinner while reading that!) because he has moved to consolidate Rafa’s power at the club.

We somehow got Rafa to stay when we were relegated and remember Mike wanted to come and meet immediately with Benitez to try to persuade him to stay – once we were relegated and before the final home game at Tottenham .

But Rafa put him off because he was busy doing his job and preparing the side for the final game of the season – 3 points were at stake for Rafa Benitez.

Mike was at the game and we won it 5-1 so Rafa certainly did his job (as usual) and it was a perfect display and result going into the four hour meetings between Mike and Rafa in the St. James’ Park Boardroom that Sunday evening.

Reports of that meeting were the two men got on very well and in fact Mike liked Rafa a lot and said yes to everything Rafa asked for – Rafa held all the cards of course – and Mike knew it.

🙂

Similar statements were made at their meeting two days after last season ended when Mike came out and said he would give Rafa every last penny after their meeting with Lee Charnley at an undisclosed location..

It seems to us the penny may have finally dropped with Mike Ashley and he now wants to get more investment into the club so we can soon go head to head with the top six clubs in the Premier League.

That’s one of the next steps needed at Newcastle and Ashley seems to be taking it.

So most fans are very happy that Rafa now has control of all transfers and control of all football matters at the club – so there should be less hiccups like we unfortunately had in January.

You have to remember that Alan Pardew and Graham Carr never exactly saw eye to eye on transfers and some of the players Graham brought in over the last few years were not wanted by Pardew, but he was in a weak position and had to take what he was given.

As we said most fans are happy with Rafa is in full charge of all football matters at the club.

It seems Rafa with the executive help of Lee Charnley will be running the club for Mike Ashley in the next few years when we hope Newcastle United will once again become a club to be reckoned with.

YES!

Howay The Lads!!


67 comments so far

  • andrew84

    Jun 22, 2017 at 10:17 PM

    Comment #41

    Mikeashleyisamackem

    There’s definitely been a fair bit of dross served up in the last twenty minutes or so :p

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  • mikeashleyisamackem

    Jun 22, 2017 at 10:17 PM

    Comment #42

    Love how it’s really clicky on here
    Unless you lick someone s arse ya can’t get a conversation lol

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  • mikeashleyisamackem

    Jun 22, 2017 at 10:21 PM

    Comment #43

    Andrew you s talk about rubbish mate
    I read your shit all the time
    Am just stating a point
    Nothing’s happening at nufc

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  • welshgeordie9

    Jun 22, 2017 at 10:21 PM

    Comment #44

    Totally agree with that comment.

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  • welshgeordie9

    Jun 22, 2017 at 10:22 PM

    Comment #45

    Hopefully there will be news tomorrow.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jun 22, 2017 at 10:24 PM

    Comment #46

    Hibbitt – good spot about the friendlies all being away. See the Wolfburg game is on the 2nd August and the season starts on the 12th August. So they could slip in another game but probably not as it might be too close to the first game. The other friendlies seem to be evenly spaced out. Cannot recall how many friendlies we played last season to get an idea of possibility of other games being arranged at home. Very interesting spot though.

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  • mikeashleyisamackem

    Jun 22, 2017 at 10:25 PM

    Comment #47

    Even an update from Rafa
    Like
    We are struggling
    Least it would be honest

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  • Mister Tuff

    Jun 22, 2017 at 10:28 PM

    Comment #48

    mikeashley – it’s not just licking hoops that gets you a chat on here. Thwacking Jib’s arse usually gets a conversation going although it’s usually Jib squealing like a piglet ” boohoo boohoo that Mr Tuff is picking on me again booohoo boohoo”.

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  • andrew84

    Jun 22, 2017 at 10:29 PM

    Comment #49

    Mikeashleyisamackem.

    – I rarely post, I tend to just read the blog and let others make exhibitions of themselves i.e. yourself and Welshieboy. In fact tonight is the most I’ve posted in a long time, certainly since your name started appearing on here.

    – The transfer window opened last week and our first game is not until August. Granted, pre-season training starts in July but there is still over a week to get our first players in. Stop crapping yourself and be patient because you sound daft getting worked up over this.

    – You seem a lot like someone else who posts on here, I just can’t put my finger on it…

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  • firebug666

    Jun 22, 2017 at 10:30 PM

    Comment #50

    It’s simple, deals don’t just happen, there is a lot of hard work to be done, and a lot of negotiating going on, People seem to forget that we have just been promoted back to the big league, it will be a hard sell for the club to bring in the targets were after.

    Chill out a bit and ffs stop believing everything written in the press, or the click bait on the net, Rafa will have his targets, he may not get them all this window, but I’m sure he will bring in enough to finish top ten this season.

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  • lesh

    Jun 22, 2017 at 10:32 PM

    Comment #51

    Mmmm, ‘Mike Ashley, Graham Carr and others had differing views on who should be brought in’. And others? Who are they? Any suggestions?

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  • firebug666

    Jun 22, 2017 at 10:38 PM

    Comment #52

    lesh

    For Ashley and Carr young and cheap would be the order of the day, talent and ability would be secondary. Who the other might be? Take your pick from the many Ashley brown noses that infest the corridors of our beloved club.

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  • martoon

    Jun 22, 2017 at 11:00 PM

    Comment #53

    Earlier Hibbitt posted all the Ins and outs of all Premiership teams. Only about 3 have signed more than 1 player and quite a few have signed none. I think this shows there are still a lot of transfers to be done hopefully a few for NUFC.

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  • RolandoOverhead

    Jun 22, 2017 at 11:02 PM

    Comment #54

    Breaking News.
    Sunderland to be sponsored by Pampers next season
    Piss up front – shit at the back

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jun 23, 2017 at 1:29 AM

    Comment #55

    Thanks for the service GC. A very good scout who got unfairly labelled with a bad rep due to other circumstances within the club. He brought in some very good players, and we refused to pay that little bit extra for others who are now top level stars. Yeah, he recommended some duds, but before some of those players kicked a ball there was very vocal joy and delight at their arrival. Even Riviere was bigger up by many on here who then later criticised Carr for the signing. It’s fairly safe to say Carr has a wealth of knowledge on players, and that is something that will be missed, regardless of the knowledge possessed by others within the club.

    As a scout, he was probably more successful than most, hence him becoming so high profile nationally. How many other Premier League scouts have gained a reputation and acclaim like he did? Unfortunately for him, this success also made his failures more public, and that is ultimately what people remember.

    The three transfers highlighted in the article are hardly glowing successes for Rafa, and should rightly be questioned. Anything under £5million at Liverpool was very hit and miss for him.

    Carr shouldn’t have wielded the power he had at the club, but that was a symptom, not the problem. Equally, Rafa needs checks and balances on his transfers as well. I imagine Carr will be replaced, but I doubt his replacement will have the success to make him as well known. More likely, Rafa will get the praise instead.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jun 23, 2017 at 1:42 AM

    Comment #56

    Certainly not time to panic over transfers just yet. It would be great to have had a few through the door, but with most of those linked I’d rather we bided our time for better players than rush in and sign people who aren’t right. People saying Everton are leaving us behind, they’ve spent a lot, and bought a two I think. Klassen cost a lot, but so did Fischer from Ajax last summer. Klassen should have a better chance of success, but at £23million, that’s huge. Then £30million for Pickford?? A great talent, but we have our own prospects in that position and no need for us to splash that on a keeper.

    They are also likely lose Lukaku, which will be very difficult to replace, so I don’t think we need be too envious of them just yet.

    We should be looking at a solid, rather than spectacular season, and I don’t see any of the clubs that we should be focusing on strengthening significantly to the extent we should be panicking. Plenty of time, plenty of options still out there.

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  • lesh

    Jun 23, 2017 at 1:51 AM

    Comment #57

    firebug666 – I can think of one who might have voiced concern at some of Rafa’s signings but the sad thing is that he played in black and white stripes.

    Lil – you might feel that Carr’s been treated unfairly but if Rafa’s felt he’s been undermined by Carr, then Carr had to go. Unfortunate, but that’s life.

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  • lesh

    Jun 23, 2017 at 1:55 AM

    Comment #58

    Lil, I forgot to add that yes, some of Rafa’s signings may be questionable but we got up as Champions and all of ’em played their part in some way whether to not they played a full match or not.

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  • lesh

    Jun 23, 2017 at 1:58 AM

    Comment #59

    Fingers all.over the phone’s keypad – time to say goodnight all.

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  • terencelim

    Jun 23, 2017 at 2:05 AM

    Comment #60

    Things can’t be simple when you have cancer (Mike Ashley) in the club.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jun 23, 2017 at 2:26 AM

    Comment #61

    Lesh,
    I’m not saying he has been treated unfairly when leaving the club, not at all. Rafa should have his people where he wants them. Doesn’t make Carr a bad scout though regardless.

    We went up as champions from a division where anything less would not have been a success. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t also question Rafa’s signings though. I like Rafa, entertainment wise – and even results despite winning the league – could have been better last season. I said early on that I thought he was instilling the discipline and mentality we would require this season, rather than changing tactics over a summer to suit our new league.

    I don’t like the idea of one person wielding complete power. Carr shouldn’t have been, and nor should Rafa. Mind, neither should Carr be the person providing the checks and balances on Rafa, someone should be though in my opinion.

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  • cyprus

    Jun 23, 2017 at 6:02 AM

    Comment #62

    This is big news, more because of the timing. Haven’t read much about what happened behind the scenes, mind. So forgive any very wrong presumptions…

    Carr leaving at this time is like a teacher leaving in the middle of a school term.

    There must have been some serious misunderstanding or power struggle or disagreement going on.

    I’m going to guess that Rafa was disappointed that Carr didn’t have much ready, in terms of transfers. So he walks.

    So, where are we now? Rafa picks up the phone, chats with old acquaintances, clubs and agents. Hopefully that brings out a player or two.

    And/or, he pays over (not under, Rafa) the going rate for one or two very good we’ll known players.

    God help us if Carr was all our scouting team! Surely we’d have 5-6 people involved. I’ve heard that big teams have like a dozen involved, from the ex Spurs football director.

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  • cyprus

    Jun 23, 2017 at 6:10 AM

    Comment #63

    Lil
    Nice to see your comments after your ‘enforced’ absence due to happy events in your life.

    You and others contributed to an erudite discussion there.

    I agree with the checks and balances argument. Centralization works in smaller organizations. At nufc, no one, no matter how talented, can do everything. Even the mighty Rafa.

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  • Bobbybee

    Jun 23, 2017 at 6:21 AM

    Comment #64

    Too many people believing stories that lack substance. The idea that we’re genuinely linked to even a tenth of the players mentioned is a joke.
    Most players are currently enjoying a break from football. They’re on holiday somewhere exotic with family or girlfriends and will have left instructions with their agents.
    A gents may well

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  • Bobbybee

    Jun 23, 2017 at 6:28 AM

    Comment #65

    (Ed, you need to move that submit button mate!) Continued. Agents may well be working on their behalf but the player needs to sign on the line. Nothing will be set in stone until the player returns from holiday.
    It’s not like Rafa has said he wants these players. Even the one most appear to want, the striker, according to the Chronicle he’s not even under consideration.
    Don’t believe the paper talk and you can’t be disappointed.

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  • Jib

    Jun 23, 2017 at 6:58 AM

    Comment #66

    When I was in Spain last week I reported Spanish tv had said Rafa had talked with the Real Madrid reserve goalie – Kiko Casilia

    Confirmation of interest emerging in Spain

    http://www.elgrafico.com/2017/06/22/el-newcastle-quiere-a-un-portero-del-real-madrid

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  • Jib

    Jun 23, 2017 at 7:21 AM

    Comment #67

    Oh dear !
    I would have appeared to have spelled Kikio’s surname wrong
    Mr Tuff
    will be all over my case

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