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Lee Charnley Has To Make A Decision On This Man’s Future


Peter Beardsley was suspended earlier this year after there were accusations of bullying and discrimination made against him by Yasin Ben El-Mhanni

After an initial look into the case by Newcastle Beardsley was placed on gardening leave.

In May an independent appeal body found that he had used discriminatory language and conducted himself in a generally unfair manner towards El-Mhanni.

Newcastle then launched an independent investigation with Lee Charnley in charge and he is the one who will make a decision on what happens to Beardsley.

Yasin Ben El-Mhanni was also told that his contract would not be renewed when it ran out on June 30th and he is now a free agent.

Now that the transfer window is practically over there is no reason why Charnley cannot wrap this thing up, make his decision and announce it.

Peter Beardsley – former U-23 manager

The Mail has reported the Gibson family two years complained of the treatment of their son Lewis by Beardsley – but the U-23 manager refused to admit he had done anything wrong.

Then last summer Lewis Gibson, one of our very best young players wanted to leave his hometown club and he eventually signed on at Everton and since then he has done extremely well on Merseyside.

Everton paid £1M initially for Gibson and the fee could rise to as much as £6M – but the better solution was to keep the local lad at Newcastle.

The U23 squad has not produced players for the first team over the time Mike Ashley has been the owner, and that is something that Rafa wants to change.

Lee Charley has to make a decision on Beardsley – as tough as it may be – and soon.

That’s what executives are paid to do.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.


41 comments so far

  • Small World

    Aug 15, 2018 at 12:46 PM

    Comment #1

    Unfortunately Beardo has previous form, in the accusations against him and Kenny Wharton re Terry Mac’s son (Neil?) He was removed from a coaching job then to an ambassador role. Pains my heart to say he must go as he was always my hero as a player… Our own Lionel Messi, or at least the closest we will ever have. Time to move on Peter…

    5
  • Mister Tuff

    Aug 15, 2018 at 12:47 PM

    Comment #2

    Mr Tubbs ………………………OOT
    Jib -racist……………………….OOt

    2
  • Optimistic Panda

    Aug 15, 2018 at 12:48 PM

    Comment #3

    Jib

    You should have been Fritzels solicitor!

    In his defence your honour he’s only guilty of not living by today’s standards, he’s a old fashioned bloke ye Kna

    3
  • toon22

    Aug 15, 2018 at 12:49 PM

    Comment #4

    If we have a really good season we can look forward to MA trousering another 90 million

    2
  • Jail for Ashley

    Aug 15, 2018 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #5

    Karma scored two against league two side Carlisle last night. I wonder how he’ll get on in the Championship with a team and manager that suits his style of play.

    2
  • Jail for Ashley

    Aug 15, 2018 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #6

    Arma even

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  • hibbit

    Aug 15, 2018 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #7

    without prejudice

    if Beardsley thinks as much of the club as says he does he should walk away while his reputation is intact and save himself and the club any further embarrassment of a sacking

    great player shit coach

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  • ctommo

    Aug 15, 2018 at 1:18 PM

    Comment #8

    2 decent finishes by Arma aswell jail.

    1
  • hibbit

    Aug 15, 2018 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #9

    Jail for Ashley
    re Arma

    pretty sure he’s on for 20 goals or more in all competitions

    the lad definitely knows where the goal is

    3
  • Chancel My MBembaship

    Aug 15, 2018 at 1:29 PM

    Comment #10

    That’s going to be the biggest laugh of the day for me. ‘I know Genoa like the back of my hand’. You can’t make this stuff up (we’ll, Jib can).

    Remember, the next time Jib calls you an idiot and you know nothing about football, he thinks Everton are going to finish above Man City this season. It’s not impossible of course (see Leicester) but it’s highly unlikely.

    I’m just waiting for the day when Jib can go 24 hours without calling someone a name like a five year old, or calling someone stupid 🙂

    5
  • Harley

    Aug 15, 2018 at 1:35 PM

    Comment #11

    Said this before on here so sorry if I sound like a stuck record.

    I was mates with Ole Soderburgh and Vuckic when they were here, Ole was always moaning about Beardsley and in his words said he was “fifty faced”. Said none of the young ones liked him as didn’t trust him.

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  • bill

    Aug 15, 2018 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #12

    Regarding people making derisory comments on others knowledge or otherwise; the best thing to remember is that “silence is the most perfect expression of scorn”.

    2
  • kilcline

    Aug 15, 2018 at 1:46 PM

    Comment #13

    Great player, poor coach

    If we had any ambition and actually went down the right strategy we would target the following:

    Charlton youth team coaches
    Southampton youth team coaches
    Leeds youth team coaches

    All 3 clubs have history of producing great youngsters who go on to better things (long term profit)

    1
  • Toonces

    Aug 15, 2018 at 1:51 PM

    Comment #14

    Plain and simple, Beardsley needs to leave the club. The reasons have been well stated by others and I agree with most. To keep him on is untenable.

    1
  • Toonces

    Aug 15, 2018 at 1:55 PM

    Comment #15

    In regards to Aarons, the Football League has the same transfer window as the prem for permanent transfers. If he goes out to a Championship or League club before end of August, I think it can only be a loan. Of course it could have an option to buy. But a loan isn’t a bad thing. He is still young enough and his contract won’t be “onerous”. If he figures out what he needs to and makes himself a better player that is good for Newcastle.

    1
  • Jib

    Aug 15, 2018 at 2:05 PM

    Comment #16

    I don’t think one person has said Pedro should stay.
    Some folk seem to want him whipped down to 4 lane
    ends though a gauntlet of young apprentices.
    While the other end of the scale just want to let him slip
    off quietly into obscurity.
    I favour the latter

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Aug 15, 2018 at 2:13 PM

    Comment #17

    Jib,
    He doesn’t have to disappear in to obscurity, he’s still a legend and always will be.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Aug 15, 2018 at 2:15 PM

    Comment #18

    Harley,
    According to those reports he isn’t well liked full stop, see why Mashley likes him.

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  • RobLeenio

    Aug 15, 2018 at 2:15 PM

    Comment #19

    Jib, I agree with that – if he’d been viciously verbally abusing certain kids, picking them out because of their race or religion, that would be a matter for stringent measures. It seems to have been more a case of poor judgement and ignorance which does not require vilification.

    He may well have been saying stupid stuff to kids of caucasian background also, but because they are not from ethnic minorities it doesn’t get reported.

    As with everything, we don’t know the full story and should not let ourselves get so worked up.

    2
  • Jib

    Aug 15, 2018 at 2:19 PM

    Comment #20

    Chancel My MBembaship
    That’s going to be the biggest laugh of the day for me.
    ‘I know Genoa like the back of my hand

    I think you are from Burnley so some of this will go over your
    head being a landlubber.
    but
    here goes
    Genoa is a brilliant place probably the best port I’ve visited
    and I’ve visited loads
    We used to take some of the smaller diesel donkeys to the
    Iveco workshop for servicing which I think is the one that was
    crushed by the A10 flyover – you can imagine my thoughts
    when I saw the pics.

    1
  • Belfast

    Aug 15, 2018 at 2:31 PM

    Comment #21

    Surely he should have been fired after the initial independent investigation ? If you were a cynical so and so you’d think the lad was released so Beardsley could return in the future.

    Was this kid not earning rave reviews not so long ago ?

    1
  • hibbit

    Aug 15, 2018 at 2:37 PM

    Comment #22

    jib
    what company were you with, i take it it was the MN ???

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  • Jib

    Aug 15, 2018 at 2:40 PM

    Comment #23

    Did a bit of ro-ro but I never give too much info
    on the web – full of weird f@ckers

    2
  • Toonces

    Aug 15, 2018 at 2:41 PM

    Comment #24

    I think the club should just release a statement along the lines of “Pedro has expressed his desire to retire and hereby has resigned from his post as coach with NUFC. NUFC have reluctantly agreed that this is in the best interests of the club and accept his resignation with immediate affect.”

    If they want to add some additional bits about club legend and long time servant of the club, by all means do so, but it doesn’t need to get into any reasons or details. This way he can step down with some degree of dignity.

    1
  • Slank

    Aug 15, 2018 at 2:42 PM

    Comment #25

    Being a ‘legend’ should not, and never be a defence against the many alleged allegations made against him.

    There are just too many alleged allegations of improper behaviour for the club to employ him in any capacity. The club has a duty of care for all its employees and especially the boys who are taking their first steps on a football career.

    He probably isn’t a racist. It’s more like attitudes have changed and he hasn’t from earlier times.

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  • hibbit

    Aug 15, 2018 at 2:42 PM

    Comment #26

    were you with a local tyneside company, deck or engine ??

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  • RobLeenio

    Aug 15, 2018 at 2:45 PM

    Comment #27

    Belfast, he’s called Yasin Ben El-Mhanni and we took him on after a trial. He was already semi-famous for some actually very impressive ball juggling videos he’d released on YouTube.

    Obviously, ball juggling isn’t playing a 90 minute 11-a-side match against grown ups. While he was incredibly skillful, who knows how well his skills translated. I don’t remember anyone raving about him after watching a stiffs match he was involved in.

    Also, according to Wikipedia, he hasn’t yet been picked up by another club.

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  • martoon

    Aug 15, 2018 at 2:49 PM

    Comment #28

    Jail if you are still around – is it just me or do all these new single name posters have a familiar writing style?

    4
  • posada

    Aug 15, 2018 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #29

    I don’t know why Peter Beardsley bothers. He’s late fifties and a wealthy man. He does not need the grief.
    None of us know what happened. Many are saying PB was old fashioned in his outlook.

    Well I’ll give you a different take on it. The young players did not like being told they were not good enough. They did not like being told they had to change their attitude. Some of them who were potentially good enough did not like being told they had to graft to go with the skill they had.

    They are probably surrounded by folks who tell them dailly that the sun shines out of their back end.

    Not liking the reality check Beardo gave them did some simply resort to PB said this and PB did that.
    I would stress I don’t know. It’s supposition on my part, but I have seen this sort of thing many times in the work place.

    PB was rejected by Man U. Got on his bike and played in Canada. Then via Carlisle to NUFC.
    Then Liverpool.

    Lets see in the coming years how many of those young players have the balls to do that.

    4
  • Jib

    Aug 15, 2018 at 2:52 PM

    Comment #30

    Bibby’s LPool
    and yes I have asked them to consider
    buying NUFC
    😡

    1
  • Toonces

    Aug 15, 2018 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #31

    RobLeenio – what are you trying to say? you seem to be blaming El-Mhanni for Beardsley’s conduct. He came on a trial, won a contract so he had something the club liked. Maybe he isn’t good enough and won’t ever become good enough but that has nothing to do with the complaints against Pedro. And maybe El-Mhanni would have progressed farther if Beardsley was a better coach. And maybe he has had trouble finding another club because of the complaints he filed.

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  • posada

    Aug 15, 2018 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #32

    Rob
    No he’s not been picked up by another club.
    He’s probably going to say I would have been the next Messi, but I was severely dramatised by Peter beardsley.
    Where theres blame theres a claim.

    In football if you are good enough people want you regardless of race, colour, religion or anything else.

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  • Toonces

    Aug 15, 2018 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #33

    Posada – easy to pick on the young player, but there are several players who backed up the claims and we are losing players to other clubs because of this (Gibson to Everton for example). All the young players are too soft in your mind. You should just yell “Get off my lawn!”

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  • RobLeenio

    Aug 15, 2018 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #34

    Toonces, no comment from me on Beardo this time – I was responding to a question from Belfast about the kid being the next big thing.

    All I was saying was he was skillful but maybe not ever going to make it as a first team player. Certainly here, maybe not anywhere else. I’m saying nothing against his character which I don’t know just being honest about what is a very difficult business.

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  • Jib

    Aug 15, 2018 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #35

    Toonces

    RobLeenio – you seem to be blaming El-Mhanni for Beardsley’s conduct

    What !!!!!!!!!!!

    Hadaway and shite

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  • hibbit

    Aug 15, 2018 at 3:10 PM

    Comment #36

    it’s very hard to think of a player that Beardsley has improved and brought through ???
    plus its not the first time this type of accusation has been leveled at him, time just to step a side and save any more embarrassment for him and the club

    great player shit coach

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  • Toonces

    Aug 15, 2018 at 3:10 PM

    Comment #37

    Rob – fair enough. I just took your comment as condescending towards El-Mhanni specifically.

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  • Munster Mag

    Aug 15, 2018 at 4:02 PM

    Comment #38

    The context of racist comments or whether the person saying them was old fashioned or having banter or meaning no harm etc is not a defence these days in employment law etc. Beardsley doesn’t have to be a klu klux klan member to be guilty of speaking to young players in terms that are unacceptable and which would be considered racist by most people. He is one of my fav all time players but he doesn’t have to he a racist to be very wrong and very sackable. Charnley lacks balls and beardo deserves the boot for his racist comments, for being a crap coach and for bigging up Ashley!

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  • MidlandsMag

    Aug 15, 2018 at 5:02 PM

    Comment #39

    Munster Mag @38

    I’ll second that as it saves me writing it and you have said it better than I could!

    Posada

    Old-fashioned is definitely not an excuse. There are many of us around the same age as PB who would not dream of saying the things that have been reported.

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  • lesh

    Aug 15, 2018 at 5:25 PM

    Comment #40

    So there was an independent appeal tribunal (IAT) looked into the allegations made against Beardsley and then an independent enquiry led by Charnley. How in hell can an enquiry be independent when the club MD’s leading it? And what was Charnley’s enquiry looking into when the IAT had already looked into the allegations?

    As many have said, Beardo’s got a great reputation as a player but he also seems to had a reputation for being unfair to the kids. No matter who, such behaviour should never have been tolerated by the club, no matter to whom it was directed. A youth team coach should behave impeccably and use decent language – clearly Beardo let himself down, the club and the kids.

    Let’s not forget about the fact that this affair has been in the public domain for some time now and the club has to be seen to have taken appropriate action. Barnsley must at the very least resign his role and leave the club. If the allegations have been found to true, then there are two options available – Beardsley’s either sacked or he resigns and goes quietly with nothing more than a neutral statement from the club that doesn’t compromise it, something along the lines of Peter B has left the club.

    However, as PB seems to have developed a reputation as a fan of Ashley and Ashley likes loyalty, he’ll want to keep him on in some capacity. I can’t see how he could unless he gives him a job with SD.

    It’s a mess and typical of NUFC – speak out and you’re out, toe the line and you’re fine.

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