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Ashley Creates Another Mess – Buying Rondon And Kenedy Could Now Become Prohibitive


Newcastle owner Mike Ashley refused to pay the £16.5M release clause in Salomon Rondon’s contract this summer – even though the West Brom striker was Rafa’s number one choice.

Rondon has one year left on his contract with a possible (optional) extra year – and that clause has now been triggered by the Baggies.

That means his contract lasts through June 30th of 2020 and next year when he finishes his loan spell at Newcastle he will not become a free agent.

Salomon Rondon – in training this week

And of course, if Rafa makes him into a much better player this season and the Venezuelan scores some goals for us he could cost (a lot?) more than £16.5M.

It’s much the same with Robert Kenedy – he’s here for one season, and neither player came to Newcastle with an option to buy clause in their loan contracts.

That’s what the news has been in the local press.

So when next summer comes around and if both players have played well at Newcastle, their price will have gone up,  and maybe significantly.

These are some of the potential negative consequences of Mike Ashley not wanting to give Rafa money to spend in this summer’s transfer window.

And this potential mess next summer could possibly become another nail in the coffin, as we try to keep Rafa Benitez on Tyneside.

It looks like we have Rondon and Kenedy on loan for the season and that’s it.

At the end of the season could even be the last time either player plays for us.

We hope that is not true and maybe Newcastle have negotiated something that we don’t know about?

Hope so.

Otherwise, we could be improving players on loan for the sole benefit of their clubs.

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64 comments so far

  • Jib

    Aug 17, 2018 at 9:47 AM

    Comment #1

    At 32 Claudio Marchisio’s days as a box to box nonstop central
    midfielder are over , but I’d bet he’d make a cracking PL fullback

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  • Ron Knee

    Aug 17, 2018 at 9:52 AM

    Comment #2

    Ashley Creates Another Mess

    Wasn’t it said of the Kaiser: “He never met a problem he couldn’t make worse”?

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  • Jib

    Aug 17, 2018 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #3

    Rondon is 29 in 30 days – we were never going to pay
    £16M for him

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  • ronaldo aarons

    Aug 17, 2018 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #4

    Woodey
    Thanks for posting the caulkin article. Was a good read again from him.

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  • ronaldo aarons

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #5

    And Bobby Madley has gone. Good riddance. Apparently there is a video of him going around on the Internet of him and a jack Russell. I won’t say more than that lol.

    1
  • geordiesteve520

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #6

    That’s a great shout for a signing Jib, although I see him more in a Pirlo-esque role as his legs are going quickly. That said, Bruno, seems to manage ok as a more pedestrian full back.

    1
  • Jib

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #7

    I wish folk would think before commenting

    We brought in Christian Atsu , Mikel Merino
    and Martin Dubravka all with options to buy.

    It’s not something alien to us.

    So therefore think about , it there may be a
    reason other than incompetence we have
    not done it this time.

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  • Jib

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #8

    geordiesteve520
    Yea after I typed it I thought DM might be better
    to take advantage of his 2 footed distribution

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  • Moonraker15

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #9

    We have a history of refusing to pay the going rate for players and that’s one of the reasons why we are going nowhere under Ashley.
    I could name 10 players now that we have “missed” through lack of ambition from Kenedy to Deli and even Modric. We’re stranded with this owner! Where’s the money Ashley?

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  • ronaldo aarons

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #10

    Marchisio at his peak was one of my favourite midfielders about. Guy was so underrated.

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  • Jib

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #11

    Moonraker15’s
    Other 7
    Lionel Messi
    Christiano Ronaldo
    Gareth Bale
    Michel Platini
    Marco Tardelli
    Ferenc Puskas
    Alfredo Di Stefano

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  • c-dog

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:14 AM

    Comment #12

    There’s no evidence yet that could suggest Schar, Fernandez or Jibs man crush Reyes could do a better job for us than Clarke. Maybe after a season we’d be better placed to suggest otherwise.

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  • Wayayman

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #13

    Moonraker, wasn’t Schweinsteiger was one of the reasons Keegan quit? He had him lined up thanks to his German connections and agreed to sell Milner only to fund Bastian’s move here. Apparently the clown Llambias got involved and reneged on the deal Keegan had set up and tried to get the lad for a couple of million less. Milner still moved to Villa & Keegan quit.

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  • Wayayman

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #14

    Jib, you seem to get pleasure from attempting to ridicule others. That says a lot about the sort of ‘man’ you are.

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  • Optimistic Panda

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #15

    Wayayman

    @14. You’re out of order suggesting jib is a man.

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  • Wayayman

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #16

    Those ‘quotes’ were there for a reason OP…

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  • Jib

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #17

    Classic crying before you are hit
    We don’t even know what Rondon’s
    terms are under his “new” contract
    WBA may have reduced his wages which
    would be to our advantage.
    They will probably stick in the Champo for a few seasons
    with an ageing striker on PL wages ?
    I don’t think so.

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  • Jib

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #18

    Funny isn’t it – I point out one of Ashley’s
    main critics fakes a photo to have a pop
    at him.

    Then folk are queueing up to have a pop at me.

    The texts have been flying this morning.

    😉

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  • ronaldo aarons

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #19

    Wayayman
    I thought it was a case of Keegan being told that they can sign schweinsteiger but need to sell Milner. Then I think Keegan spoke to someone and they just laughed at the idea of them selling him. We didn’t get him and Milner was sold. Keegan left with his pants down.

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  • Jib

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #20

    Milner actually put a transfer request in May/June 2008
    Derek Llambias joined NUFC 31July 2008

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  • RobLeenio

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #21

    The swap deal with Gayle works well for both clubs – Gayle is better suited to the Champo, Rondon is a PL level striker.

    Rondon obviously didn’t fancy the Champo for a season at this stage of his career but West Brom knew if they loaned him out he could walk away at the end of the season. Ashley didn’t want to buy a near-30 year old on a likely 3 year contract at an instant write-off of £16 Million. He also didn’t fancy having the liability of a PL level striker on his books if the club was relegated again.

    This way, West Brom protect their investment, Gayle gets to play regularly and score goals in the Champo, keeping him in the shop window for us and him, Rondon gets to play in the Prem and (hopefully) score goals for us, keeping him in the shop window for him and West Brom and if we go down and West Brom come up, we get to swap back two highly effective strikers at the correct respective level. If we stay up and they fail to be promoted, we work out a permanent deal if everyone is happy to do so.

    It’s actually a cracking piece of business, although Rafa may well have been frustrated by it. At the end of the day, we don’t know which strikers may be available next season, what our budget will be or even who will be owning and managing us so we really shouldn’t be worrying about that kind of thing right now.

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  • Jib

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #22

    It’s hard to see how somebody who had a few
    seasons at Hamburg SV would have any
    contacts at the pride of Bavaria
    Bayern Munich.

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  • ronaldo aarons

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #23

    https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kevin-keegan-believed-newcastle-would-11986124

    Kevin Keegan was promised that Newcastle United would replace James Milner with Bastian Schweinsteiger when the Magpies sold the England midfielder to Aston Villa, claims Terry McDermott.

    Milner moved to Villa Park in 2008 for a fee in the region of £12million – though McDermott insists it was closer to £15m – and that transfer is believed to have played a part in Keegan’s subsequent resignation.

    Milner was even described as “irreplaceable” by McDermott, due to the midfielder’s versatility.

    Interestingly, however, former assistant boss McDermott claims that the United board told Keegan that they would use the £15m recouped from Milner’s sale to bring in Schweinsteiger, who was at Bayern Munich at the time and was one of the world’s most in-demand players.

    McDermott suggests that, once Milner was sold, the Magpies hierarchy then told Keegan that it would actually cost closer to £50m to get the German international midfielder.

    Speaking about Milner’s 2008 St James’ Park exit, McDermott told The Mirror: “We were actually at the club when we sold him, myself and Kevin Keegan. We sold him for 15m quid.

    “The story goes – and this is a true story – we didn’t want him to leave but we needed to get other players in because we’d had a bid of 15m quid.

    “Kevin said: ‘If we sell him for 15m quid, how are we going to replace him?’

    “They [the club’s hierarchy] said: ‘We’ve already got one – Schweinsteiger.’

    “He’s at Man United now, but seven or eight years ago he was a superstar and they said we could get him.

    “The idea of accepting the bid of £15m for Milner – which was a lot of money then – and then we’re looking to get Schweinsteiger, it’s a no brainer.

    “But after he’s [Milner’s] signed for Villa – the day after – we’re trying to sign Schweinsteiger and the answer was: ‘Absolutely no chance, it will cost you £50 million if you wanted to buy Schweinsteiger.’

    “So we had no one to replace him.

    “But he was irreplaceable anyway because he could play anywhere.”

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  • Moonraker15

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #24

    Wayayman
    Schweinsteiger was lined up yes, and there have been many young prospects particularly over the last 10 years.
    The point is we have a great attraction in Rafa at the moment as we had with SBR and Keegan.
    Some fans are now brainwashed into thinking £16 million is a huge fee; well it was in ‘96!
    Jib please take note!

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  • ronaldo aarons

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #25

    Didn’t Keegan win the ballon d or twice at Hamburg? I’m sure he would be able to speak to most German clubs. Either way Iremembered that part incorrectly.

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  • Moonraker15

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #26

    Jib
    “A few seasons at Hamburg SV” ! Lol he was a world superstar which broke down all barriers. Players were dying to come to Newcastle, and some did!
    For the life of me I don’t understand how you can be a fervent toon fan and hold your Pro Ashley views! Very strange!

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  • toon22

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #27

    Jib
    You defend MA
    Says it all really,how much you get a year ?

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  • toon22

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #28

    Obviously Keegan was just some villian,total liar where as MA…

    Tool

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  • ronaldo aarons

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #29

    Moonraker
    The average transfer fee this summer window was £16m. Average and a lot of fans wouldn’t consider this to be a huge fee I find we pay this amount.

    http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11678/11473632/newcastle-bucking-the-global-transfer-trend-with-premier-league-spending-on-the-rise

    It’s nothing these days to spend £10m on a player.

    Under Ashley, Newcastle have spent an 8 figure sum only 11 times. (£10m+)

    Rafa has made only 5 signings over £8m. (Lejuene, Murphy, Gayle, Ritchie, muto).

    In relative terms we are spending peanuts compared to the rest of the clubs.

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  • Jib

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #30

    Moonraker
    Players were dying to come to Newcastle, and some did
    Really ?!!!!

    4
  • Munster Mag

    Aug 17, 2018 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #31

    Mido on sky TV. Was it Louise Taylor who berated toon fans for singing mido is a paedo?

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  • ronaldo aarons

    Aug 17, 2018 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #32

    Moonraker
    sorry, couple errors in that last post. Auto correct and that.

    The average transfer fee this summer window was £16m. Average. And a lot of fans WOULD (lol) consider this to be a huge fee IF we did pay this amount.

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  • ronaldo aarons

    Aug 17, 2018 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #33

    When I say we have spent an 8 figure sum only 11 times under Ashley, I meant since Michael Owen. It’s on the article I linked. I keep making mistakes lol.

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  • Jib

    Aug 17, 2018 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #34

    From Louise Taylors article
    “We will certainly be looking into it,” said an FA spokesman yesterday before explaining that both Middlesbrough and Newcastle United will be asked for their interpretations of events at the Riverside. Meanwhile Middlesbrough will decide today whether to make a formal complaint to the FA and/or Newcastle United. “Any action we take will be determined tomorrow,” said a club spokesman yesterday.
    In November 2005 West Ham and their then manager, Alan Pardew, apologised to Mido – raised as a member of Egypt’s Muslim majority in a country also containing a significant Coptic Christian minority – for anti-Muslim abuse directed at the striker, then with Spurs, during a match between the London sides.
    Although the FA, which rarely encounters Islamophobia, is primarily interested in stamping out all forms of racism, its investigation will also touch on further chants directed at Mido, most notably “Mido is a Paedo”, which was apparently the chosen way of some Newcastle fans of reminding their Boro counterparts of the Cleveland child abuse scandal in the 80s.
    Mido responded in a dignified manner yesterday. “I heard it; it was clear and I could understand what they were saying,” said the highly articulate 24-year-old, whose father is a wealthy businessman in Cairo. “I’m used to it from opposition fans but I just think this was ridiculous. I don’t know why they do it. I just think they were maybe taking the piss and maybe some of them were drunk or something, I just don’t know. It made me want to score goals. I was very delighted to score once and wanted another.”

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  • Aces-of-Eights

    Aug 17, 2018 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #35

    I suggested marchisio but jib takes the credit tut tut

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  • ronaldo aarons

    Aug 17, 2018 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #36

    Neil warnock chiming in now saying Mike Ashley is an ‘easy target’.

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  • ronaldo aarons

    Aug 17, 2018 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #37

    Chris Waugh
    @ChrisDHWaugh
    ·
    4m
    #nufc U23s midfielder Mo Sangare has been called up to the Liberia squad for an Africa Cup of Nations qualifier aginst the Democratic Republic of Congo next month

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  • Jib

    Aug 17, 2018 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #38

    Aces-of-Eights
    Shit happens

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  • Just a fan

    Aug 17, 2018 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #39

    Was never a big fan of miller.a hard worker but that was it.told he he was going for 9 million and would have snapped there hands of for that never mind the 12th million we got

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  • beermonkey

    Aug 17, 2018 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #40

    ronaldo

    cos warnock will be on the list when rafa goes
    dont want upset a potential new boss

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