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Former Newcastle Defender Spills The Beans On Steve McClaren



Former Newcastle right-back Daryl Janmaat has talked about the former Newcastle manager Steve McClaren.

McClaren had excellent credentials as a coach and worked with Sven Ericksson on coaching the England team when the Swede was the manager of England.

He has also worked with Alex Ferguson in the 1990s at Manchester United when they won the Champions League in 1999.

The Red Devils won by scoring two goals in stoppage time to beat Bayern Munich 2-1 after the German side had gone ahead in the 6th minute.

Steve McClaren was well respected by the England players such as Michael Owen as an excellent coach.

But when he was appointed as “head coach” at Newcastle we didn’t see much success at all when we looked back on his previous management career in football.

A little bit of success with Middlesbrough but he had been an absolute disaster as the England manager when the job seemed to be too much for him.

Daryl Janmaat in action for Watford

Lee Charnley (it wasn’t Mike Ashley) appointed McClaren in the summer of 2015 and he knew he was a good coach, so maybe Lee thought if he appointed him as “Head Coach” then all would be well?

It wasn’t, and it took 9 games before we won our first league game and that was after we had spent some big money, for a change, in that summer transfer window.

We brought in Aleksandar Mitrovic, Chancel Mbemba, Gini Wijnaldum, and Florian Thauvin.

This is what Daryl has said about McClaren talking to Dutch outlet AD:

“He is a great guy, a good coach on the pitch, but as a manager, there were a lot of things missing.”

“He could have been louder, and more able to make his mark on certain things.”

“He is an excellent coach on the pitch, who happens to be a manager.”

“You need 40 points to stay in the Premier League. Such a great start, of course (for Watford), makes a difference.”

“We must enjoy this. It is going incredibly well. And certainly, at home, we can beat everyone.”

It takes more than just football know how to be a good manager – you have to have confidence, leadership, a strong character, and be a good man-manager amongst other things.

And the number of times we saw Steve holding his head in his hands on the touchline – why did he keep doing that?

Just think if you were a player and looked across to see your coach holding his head in his hands.

Would that inspire you?

I’m not sure what that is but it’s certainly not leadership.

Watford have surprisingly made a 100% start to their league program over the first four games under manager Javi Gracia.

So they have 28 points to get in their remaining 34 games to be safe.

Newcastle need 39 points to be safe.

Comments welcome.


45 comments so far

  • RobLeenio

    Sep 6, 2018 at 2:42 PM

    Comment #2

    If you combine the names of Shearer and Berbatov you get Sherbet(ov)

    Sweet….

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  • Chancel My MBembaship

    Sep 6, 2018 at 2:46 PM

    Comment #3

    RobLeenio – think you might have a bit too much time on your hands mate 🙂

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  • Chancel My MBembaship

    Sep 6, 2018 at 2:50 PM

    Comment #4

    Was surprised to see that Berbatov is only 37. I suppose he moved about the pitch like an old man when he was in his twenties so I expected him to be way older than 37 now!

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  • Jib

    Sep 6, 2018 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #5

    Rafa back from Switzerland
    Shares some thoughts on coaching with Simon Grayson , Sammy Lee and Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink

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  • catchy in norway

    Sep 6, 2018 at 3:20 PM

    Comment #6

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    Go

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  • Jib

    Sep 6, 2018 at 3:26 PM

    Comment #7

    Showing young Isaac how to shut down the ball carrier
    without kicking him upaheight and getting a red card.
    Ha ha ha

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  • RobLeenio

    Sep 6, 2018 at 3:33 PM

    Comment #8

    Jeez, Sammy Lee was never the handsomest of men, but now…..

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  • Jib

    Sep 6, 2018 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #9

    RobLeenio may I suggest this blog

    http://ilovemacholookingfootycoaches.co.uk

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  • RobLeenio

    Sep 6, 2018 at 3:57 PM

    Comment #10

    Ha, not sure you could describe Sammy Lee as a coach – there’s only Sam Allardyce and his Mum that see him that way.

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  • hibbit

    Sep 6, 2018 at 4:02 PM

    Comment #11

    This guy has a prem team on his shopping

    list https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45330897

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  • Jib

    Sep 6, 2018 at 4:09 PM

    Comment #12

    I have a feeling Ashley would quote the final
    paragraph of Cuban’s piece

    “The key to success is finding something you like to do,
    and becoming really good at it,”
    “It doesn’t matter how many times you fail,
    you only have to be right once.”

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  • Jib

    Sep 6, 2018 at 4:17 PM

    Comment #13

    Sammy Lee’s most successful time was as Bolton Wanderers
    academy manager – Makes you think – maybe just maybe – after
    his time at Osasuna his Spanish is pretty fluent.

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  • Mag52

    Sep 6, 2018 at 4:56 PM

    Comment #14

    Hopefully Rafa’s not giving Sammy a heads up about a manager’s job at NUFC at the end of the season.

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  • RobLeenio

    Sep 6, 2018 at 4:57 PM

    Comment #15

    I see the archetypal charmless man Richard Keys has been letting his lips flap around again.

    https://twitter.com/richardajkeys/status/1037677989293694977

    Nice to see he’s getting torn a new one but sensibly with reasoned responses.

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  • RobLeenio

    Sep 6, 2018 at 5:02 PM

    Comment #16

    Oh, except for the ones which accuse him of being a Werewolf….

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 6, 2018 at 5:33 PM

    Comment #18

    Mag52,
    He’s been tasked with interviewing the next manager as there’s no one got a clue left at the club, there we are folks, one of that triumvirate are coming soon!!!

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  • lochinvar

    Sep 6, 2018 at 5:58 PM

    Comment #19

    RobLeenio@15
    not forgetting that Keys is paid c. £450,000 by Bein for his tawdry existence and punditry. No doubt if he stays out of the UK long enough he won’t pay tax on that either ?
    Just hope his ex-wife is keeping tabs on that for a divorce settlement.

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  • Ibizatoon

    Sep 6, 2018 at 6:50 PM

    Comment #20

    Rob…I probably shouldn’t have, but the comparison about shagging your daughters best mate between Rafa and Keys nearly just killed me.

    “I’ve just ran this comparison. Interesting isn’t it? Rafa Benitez has never shagged his daughters mate, while his wife was suffering with cancer and as you can see from the detailed comparison below, you have Richard. This is a good way to judge the measure of a man.”

    To the point though, what was Keys’ point?

    Benitez has finished 1st (Champ) and 10th (which matched one of Pardews). Relegation season I really don’t think can be put down as Rafa’s finish. Whatever the point, the man’s an idiot.

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  • Ron Knee

    Sep 6, 2018 at 6:52 PM

    Comment #21

    “Watford showing the league how to be effective in possession… joint top of the league on points but 16th in touches.”

    https://twitter.com/MsiDouglas/status/1037706734775803905

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 6, 2018 at 7:03 PM

    Comment #22

    OP, aye, Jordan’s opinion on gambling just shows how completely out of touch he is, not to mention him being a total toss pot.
    You can feel the arrogance coming through the airwaves, he really is one seriously slimy piece of dog turd.
    Pity you didn’t hear his comments, they wanted people affected by gambling to call in.
    No doubt his kids aren’t gamblers, which in his eyes makes him a great parent. How exposing bairns to that level of arrogance is good for them however, I fail to see the connection to good parenting!
    Sounds like your dad did you a favour mate. I only have the odd bet myself. I do a fiver accumulator on my Super Six and like Saturday, had two quid on us to beat City. 🙂 (25/1 in a two horse race was insulting imo, even if it was right).
    Never bet big money though, there truly is only one winner. Typical that our betting partner is one who doesn’t contribute to addiction treatment though. Move over Wonga!

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  • Ron Knee

    Sep 6, 2018 at 7:05 PM

    Comment #23

    Clark starting. Dummett on bench.

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 6, 2018 at 7:15 PM

    Comment #24

    Ron, how dare they eh? Totally anti football, they should have points deducted! 🙂

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  • catchy in norway

    Sep 6, 2018 at 7:23 PM

    Comment #25

    ok ?

    Time for your daily laugh

    My daughter has started college, and today for fun they took personality tests.

    she came home and asked me and Lewis (son/ brother) to take it.

    mine came back debeter

    https://www.16personalities.com/entp-personality

    Follow the path of the unsafe, independent thinker. Expose your ideas to the dangers of controversy. Speak your mind and fear less the label of ’crack-pot’ than the stigma of conformity. And on issues that seem important to you, stand up and be counted at any cost.
    Thomas J. Watson

    The Debater personality type is the ultimate devil’s advocate, thriving on the process of shredding arguments and beliefs and letting the ribbons drift in the wind for all to see. Debaters don’t do this because they are trying to achieve some deeper purpose or strategic goal, but for the simple reason that it’s fun. No one loves the process of mental sparring more than Debaters, as it gives them a chance to exercise their effortlessly quick wit, broad accumulated knowledge base, and capacity for connecting disparate ideas to prove their points.

    An odd juxtaposition arises with Debaters, as they are uncompromisingly honest, but will argue tirelessly for something they don’t actually believe in, stepping into another’s shoes to argue a truth from another perspective.
    Playing the devil’s advocate helps people with the Debater personality type to not only develop a better sense of others’ reasoning, but a better understanding of opposing ideas – since Debaters are the ones arguing them.

    This tactic shouldn’t be confused with the sort of mutual understanding Diplomat personalities seek – Debaters, like all Analyst personality types, are on a constant quest for knowledge, and what better way to gain it than to attack and defend an idea, from every angle, from every side?

    Debater (ENTP) personality
    There Are no Rules Here – We’re Trying to Accomplish Something!

    Taking a certain pleasure in being the underdog, Debaters enjoy the mental exercise found in questioning the prevailing mode of thought, making them irreplaceable in reworking existing systems or shaking things up and pushing them in clever new directions. However, they’ll be miserable managing the day-to-day mechanics of actually implementing their suggestions. Debater personalities love to brainstorm and think big, but they will avoid getting caught doing the “grunt work” at all costs. Debaters only make up about three percent of the population, which is just right, as it lets them create original ideas, then step back to let more numerous and fastidious personalities handle the logistics of implementation and maintenance.

    Debaters’ capacity for debate can be a vexing one – while often appreciated when it’s called for, it can fall painfully flat when they step on others’ toes by say, openly questioning their boss in a meeting, or picking apart everything their significant other says. This is further complicated by Debaters’ unyielding honesty, as this type doesn’t mince words and cares little about being seen as sensitive or compassionate. Likeminded types get along well enough with people with the Debater personality type, but more sensitive types, and society in general, are often conflict-averse, preferring feelings, comfort, and even white lies over unpleasant truths and hard rationality.

    This frustrates Debaters, and they find that their quarrelsome fun burns many bridges, oftentimes inadvertently, as they plow through others’ thresholds for having their beliefs questioned and their feelings brushed aside. Treating others as they’d be treated, Debaters have little tolerance for being coddled, and dislike when people beat around the bush, especially when asking a favor. Debater personalities find themselves respected for their vision, confidence, knowledge, and keen sense of humor, but often struggle to utilize these qualities as the basis for deeper friendships and romantic relationships.

    Opportunity Is Missed Because It Looks Like Hard Work

    Debaters have a longer road than most in harnessing their natural abilities – their intellectual independence and free-form vision are tremendously valuable when they’re in charge, or at least have the ear of someone who is, but getting there can take a level of follow-through that Debaters struggle with.

    Once they’ve secured such a position, Debaters need to remember that for their ideas to come to fruition, they will always depend on others to assemble the pieces – if they’ve spent more time “winning” arguments than they have building consensus, many Debaters will find they simply don’t have the support necessary to be successful. Playing devil’s advocate so well, people with this personality type may find that the most complex and rewarding intellectual challenge is to understand a more sentimental perspective, and to argue consideration and compromise alongside logic and progress.

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 6, 2018 at 7:31 PM

    Comment #26

    Catchy, fear not pal, everyone on here is already convinced you’re a great debater – a mass debater in fact. Jog on.

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  • Average_Contents

    Sep 6, 2018 at 7:35 PM

    Comment #27

    So…..basically your a bit of a cnut?

    Who’d of thunked it eh

    Although as the above states, this shouldn’t bother you.

    Cnut.

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  • Average_Contents

    Sep 6, 2018 at 7:38 PM

    Comment #28

    Was that straight enough to the point for you?

    There’s another term that gets floated around instead of debater, can you guess what it is (best Rolf Harris accent)

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  • catchy in norway

    Sep 6, 2018 at 7:40 PM

    Comment #29

    cnut or a sheep, i know which i’d prefer to be

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 6, 2018 at 7:52 PM

    Comment #30

    By all the bleating you do, I’d say you were both. Baaaa!! 🙂

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  • sing in the corner

    Sep 6, 2018 at 7:55 PM

    Comment #31

    Got done there Ciaran…

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 6, 2018 at 8:05 PM

    Comment #32

    Clark, ffs, send him down the right.

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 6, 2018 at 8:06 PM

    Comment #33

    Looking like a long night for Ireland and sadly, Clarky in particular. At fault for both goals. 🙁

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  • RobLeenio

    Sep 6, 2018 at 8:09 PM

    Comment #34

    lochinvar, sad to say he’s probably paid directly into an offshore account in the Middle East, won’t pay any UK tax and will be able to afford far better lawyers than his wife. She’s got no chance of getting hold of that money. Mind, getting rid of that miserable sack of spineless flesh is probably reward enough.

    Ibizatoon, I quite liked the one that suggested he ask Ashley to tarmac him with his beer and kebab poops. Not very subtle, but quite amusing.

    Honestly I could not begin to say what the point of the post was. If he thinks he’s going to persuade people Pardew is a better manager than Rafa, he’s going to be sadly disappointed.

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 6, 2018 at 8:15 PM

    Comment #35

    Rob, he’s just desperate mate. Desperate to stay relevant so he can impress his daughter’s friends. He knows himself he’s a has been, so anything that gets him noticed is probably all that matters in his strange little world. His next port of call will probably be Scandinavia, where he might fit in better… 🙂

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  • RobLeenio

    Sep 6, 2018 at 8:17 PM

    Comment #36

    Catchy, fair play for your self-reflection. You’re probably aware that your stance against Rafa has made your views fairly unpopular on here, but it’s a blog designed for debate and the expression of opinion, whatever stance any person takes.

    I don’t know if you saw my post the other day. I suggested that if you tried to mix up your content a little, join the conversation on other subjects than just Rafa, give him credit where it’s deserved and sprinkle a little humour into your criticism then it may be a little more palatable when you do criticise him.

    I hope you take this the right way, I don’t mean to patronise or disparage.

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  • RobLeenio

    Sep 6, 2018 at 8:24 PM

    Comment #37

    Bobby, aye desperate is right. Desperate excuse for a human being.

    Sad thing is, he and Andy Gray really pioneered modern football punditry – the instant half-time analysis with player tracking graphics and all that started with them on Soccer Saturday. I don’t know why I’m telling you this, you know as well as I do.

    Anyway, they were both respected, top of their profession and look at them now – if the term shill can be levelled at anyone, it’s those two.

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 6, 2018 at 8:28 PM

    Comment #38

    Pulled all over the park again. Feel for Clarky, he’s having an absolute ‘mare. I’d sub him at half time for his own good. Didn’t have the best of games the other night either. Luckily we’re blessed in central defence when Lejeune returns.

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  • Bladey

    Sep 6, 2018 at 8:33 PM

    Comment #39

    ASH OUT RAFA OUT

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  • Bobbybee

    Sep 6, 2018 at 8:35 PM

    Comment #40

    Rob, it’s actually sad to see such a demise. They were both top of the tree and obviously ended up believing the hype. Why they thought they could get away with that in this day and age is beyond comprehension.
    Not that the fall hasn’t been softened by what he’s earning over there, but you can almost see him jumping up and down waving his arms, screaming ‘listen to me’ like a spoiled schoolkid.
    The truth is nobody wants to hear what he has to say anymore. He’s finished, he just won’t accept it. He wants to be ‘Mr Controversy’ but people are just laughing at his efforts. Won’t be long before even impressionable young ladies are no longer impressed. 🙂 Like I say, quite sad really.

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