Newcastle seem to have some good young players coming through the ranks – but that’s been true for a number of years now and the only problem is when the lads get to around 21 they don’t come through and they leave the club.
It’s happened to too many players in the past with the latest being local lad Adam Armstrong who looked a tremendous prospect only two or three years ago but was sold to Blackburn Rovers in the summer.
Freddie Woodman is the best youngster coming through at the moment but we are very strong at goalkeeper at the moment with new arrival Martin Dubravka and we were surprised that it seems Newcastle wouldn’t want to loan him out unless he signed a new deal.
That’s not an appropriate way to treat somebody you want to stay long term at the club so we are starting to think Freddie could be on his way when his contract runs out in June 2020.
Victor Fernandez could be the next player to attract the attention of Rafa Benitez and the Barcelona-born 20-year-old seems to have both the skill and the attitude to become successful at Newcastle.
Victor has been out of action with an injury since the first U23 match back in August and it’s been a frustrating time for him.
This is what Victor has tweeted about his situation.
It is always frustrating to miss training sessions and games because of an injury. I have no other choice than accepting it, keep working and coming back stronger. Finally facing the final stretch of the recovery process with full desire to come back and compete. Let’s go! pic.twitter.com/auh8atxMza
— Víctor Fernández (@victorfdez98) October 14, 2018
We hope Victor can start to come through when he returns to playing soon.
Newcastle really need somebody to come through to the Newcastle first team so we can show we can create some good players.
The only one of note who’s come through the ranks at Newcastle for the last decade to become a first team regular is Paul Dummett.
The local Longstaff brothers – Sean and Matty – are two very promising central midfield players who could make the grade at their hometown club.
And 19-year-old Danish striker Elias Sorensen has been looking very good this season
Comments welcome.
183 comments so far
Mag52
Oct 15, 2018 at 3:06 PM
Comment #1Ashley Out.
RobLeenio
Oct 15, 2018 at 3:10 PM
Comment #2Mag52, here’s an article all about the potential of a young lad to come through the ranks and break into the first team, having recovered from a nasty injury and on the cusp of making a playing return.
An article that portrays hope, resilience, courage, tenacity.
And then you go and drop that miserable excuse for a comment right at the top of the comments section.
Do you honestly not have anything more interesting to say?
Rob1971
Oct 15, 2018 at 3:14 PM
Comment #3Do fans honestly think Ashley is going after Rodgers? first of all he would have to sack Rafa and pay him compensation, and then he is going to pay compensation to Celtic to get Rodgers? its not going to happen, in his 11 years he has never paid a club for a manager they have all be free and available, for me the next one will be the same
hibbit
Oct 15, 2018 at 3:22 PM
Comment #4do folk on here really think Brendan Rodgers would just walk away from the Celtic job to take over down here,
with all our baggage are we still that big a pull ?????
Jib
Oct 15, 2018 at 3:22 PM
Comment #5Zinedine Zidane is free
Ibizatoon
Oct 15, 2018 at 3:25 PM
Comment #6Having to specify Rob’s here…
Rob1971…Ashley paying double compensation. It’s laughable.
RobLeenio…Awaiting your on thread post, not just what another poster has said post 🙂
In fairness, whilst the article is a positive, it does also include “The only one of note who’s come through the ranks at Newcastle for the last decade to become a first team regular is Paul Dummett”, which when you consider how many of these articles we’ve had over the years, you can probably excuse the users of the blog for not meeting each one with excitement.
RobLeenio
Oct 15, 2018 at 3:26 PM
Comment #7Jib, we’ve already had one manager who’s free and easy with the use of his head, not sure ZiZi is the answer….
RobLeenio
Oct 15, 2018 at 3:26 PM
Comment #8Sorry, Zizou..
🙁
Rob1971
Oct 15, 2018 at 3:27 PM
Comment #9I think Zidane will be at Man Utd before the end of the season
Jail for Ashley
Oct 15, 2018 at 3:28 PM
Comment #10Rob1971,
I think Ibiza said it, is there any point in getting excited or even interested in who the new manager might be. Whoever it is won’t be chosen because they can deliver success. Why would they be? We already have a manager who can 100% deliver a trophy and Ashley doesn’t want him. For years we questioned why we couldn’t have a top manager, since being duped in to getting us back in to the PL Rafa has been shafted in every way Ashley could manage. Why do people think a new manager will be any different.
toon22
Oct 15, 2018 at 3:29 PM
Comment #11If he’s any good he will be sold
Straight out the door
And the money never to be seen again
It’s what footballs all about
toon22
Oct 15, 2018 at 3:31 PM
Comment #12Our only hope of Zidane is some kind of plot to take him hostage
It’s plausible with our owner,make the manager pay you
Rob1971
Oct 15, 2018 at 3:32 PM
Comment #13Jail exactly, Rodgers is supposed to be frustrated with Celtic due to lack of signings in the last transfer window, so he would join a club which is even worse in the transfer windows, its laughable, whoever put that in the mirror hasn’t done there research on Ashley in his 11 years here
toon22
Oct 15, 2018 at 3:36 PM
Comment #14There’s always the hostage route for the club
If we take Rodgers hostage we could demand some kind of ransom
It’s about as likely
Jib
Oct 15, 2018 at 3:37 PM
Comment #15Towards the beginning of the 1996 season, according to football agent Barry Silkman,
Zinedine Zidane was offered to Kevin Keegan’s Newcastle United for £1.2 million,
but he turned down the offer after watching him, claiming that he was not good
enough for the English First Division.
RobLeenio
Oct 15, 2018 at 3:39 PM
Comment #16ibiza, don’t hold your breath, I don’t do tricks on demand. I’ve said a great deal about the state of the U23s over recent months, if I think of anything new or interesting, I’ll post it then.
Ibizatoon
Oct 15, 2018 at 3:45 PM
Comment #17RobLeenio…Tricks on demand? What site have I logged into?
Joking aside, you don’t get the hypocrisy of criticising someones content as being non thread specific, whilst offering nothing thread specific yourself?
Or did it have nothing to do with the thread and more to do with the repetitiveness of “Ashley Out”. Anyway, really wasn’t asking you for any tricks mate, although I do hold a vague interest in magic if you’re offering.
mac the jaffrey
Oct 15, 2018 at 3:46 PM
Comment #18So it seems all this Saudi talk is a non starter then, they’re after Man Utd instead.
Oh well.
jayphoto
Oct 15, 2018 at 3:59 PM
Comment #19@JIB – heard it was Blackburn rovers who turned him down?
To be fair, in 1996 Zidane hadn’t quite become the player he became at Juventus and Madrid, theres a chance moving to the kick and rush premier leauge would have ruined his develovement and seen him kicked off the park week in week out! Not saying that’d happen for sure but at that critical stage of his career, I cant see any other move working out better for him than the Juventus move did.. whereas many a talented player moved to england to early and was hampered because of it
Also… would he have even got a look in over Rob Lee and David Batty? (im kidding on that one)
MikeAshleysWallet
Oct 15, 2018 at 4:05 PM
Comment #20We did turn down Zidane. Keegan was directly attributed to have said that he wouldn’t get in the side ahead of Rob Lee. To be fair he was right, at that time Lee was in his prime and Zidane was still some way off being world class.
jayphoto
Oct 15, 2018 at 4:05 PM
Comment #21Honestly, when it comes to funds, none of us know really why Rafa isnt being backed… the contract situation? Asset stripping? The only facts are that Mike Ashley is a horrific owner, and Rafa is a top manager.. I still have no clue how McClaren got backed that summer.
It would be the most Newcastle thing ever to lose Rafa Benitez and then let a manager with 50% of the ability spend 75-100m…. If I was a betting man, id bet that it happens ….
Also…if we don’t pick up a win in our next 3 games I can see Rafa getting the bullet.. we’ve had a tough start but if we take the form and set up into Brighton home, Southampton away, Watford Home I can see Ashley panic reacting
MikeAshleysWallet
Oct 15, 2018 at 4:07 PM
Comment #22On a separate note, did anyone read about the ruler of Saudi apparently having an interest in buying Man U? I wonder if he might potentially take a look further down the league table for a team worth investing in…
Geordie-john
Oct 15, 2018 at 4:08 PM
Comment #23Jib’s Free !!
Geordie-john
Oct 15, 2018 at 4:09 PM
Comment #24No honestly he is Free. Couple pints from uncle Mike ! LOL
Jib
Oct 15, 2018 at 4:10 PM
Comment #25https://twitter.com/MHChehade/status/1051837935182643202
Ibizatoon
Oct 15, 2018 at 4:11 PM
Comment #26Jay….From memory, the team had been starved of investment for approximately 18 months, whilst being told we were broke, only for the accounts to show we were sitting on a sizeable sum (and paying tax on said profits). The club simply had no option over than to spend that summer, or come out and say that they wouldn’t.
A lot was made about backing the manager, but it seemed a case of having little option at the time, from memory anyway.
Interesting thoughts on when Ashley may in fact decide to change Rafa. Trying to think when he’s ever done something like that and can only think of the McClaren relegation season…when Rafa turned up. My initial though is when has Ashley ever done anything early, but maybe that particular experience plays on his head. That’s a big maybe for me.
I guess the exercise will be based on how much Rafa is asking for in January to save our PL status. Then the math of changing manager vs outcome vs cost of relegation begins.
Fairly sure we can call out asset stripping as fact. Strawberry place land. Even if you take out the potential development, just pure profit, the club haven’t received what it’s worth, MASH has / will. That is asset stripping, surely?
Jail for Ashley
Oct 15, 2018 at 4:13 PM
Comment #27When Jiblets gets outed for having his head up Ashleys ring piece what better way to deflect attention than by trying to belittle a club legend. Sad barsteward.
jayphoto
Oct 15, 2018 at 4:13 PM
Comment #28@mikeashleyswallet – think if you’re willing to buy Man Utd you’re probably looking for ready made platform/prestige. Wouldn’t shock me if theyre just trying to outspend the Qataris in Paris…
Ibizatoon
Oct 15, 2018 at 4:18 PM
Comment #29Jail…I think, but not sure, he does it to paint the picture that even those that we point to as doing right by Newcastle have made mistakes and are flawed.
Not sure why he think’s it’ll make any difference yet, but that’s all I’ve managed to come up with. A bit like I’m still trying to figure out what the redeeming aspects of Ashley’s ownership are. Any that he arrived with have surely been beaten to death by now. Well, obviously not I guess.
jayphoto
Oct 15, 2018 at 4:18 PM
Comment #30@ibiza oh hes 100% asset stripping…just not sure if thats the reason he hasn’t spent in the transfer window…
just seems mad… the lure of the premier league, the money, the exposure etc that hes happy to risk that for relatively small savings when the cost of dropping out of the league is so high… at some point im gonna look past the fact the he is a billionaire and just start assuming hes the dumbest man in show biz….
Thats the hardest thing to take, its all their, manager, fan base etc the rewards could be so high… even for sports direct, to have Newcastle in the champions league would be worth a fortune to them in their free advertising…even if we are just a platform for advertising to him, hes not even getting that right…
RobLeenio
Oct 15, 2018 at 4:20 PM
Comment #31ibiza “Trying to think when he’s ever done something like that and can only think of the McClaren relegation season”
When he sacked Allardyce in January 2008? When he sacked Chris Hughton in December 2010?
He has form for ditching managers in mid-season, but I don’t think he’ll do it this time.
RobLeenio
Oct 15, 2018 at 4:21 PM
Comment #32jayphoto, best not try to get into the head of Mike Ashley – that way lies madness and vomit-filled fireplaces.
Ibizatoon
Oct 15, 2018 at 4:23 PM
Comment #33jay…Ah, my bad, went down the wrong path there 🙂
The only reason I’ve come up with is that he doesn’t sanction spending when he doesn’t see the need to. He only see’s the need to when the club is potentially getting relegated. But hey, maybe the accounts will show we’ve had no money?
Which brings us to your next point. The dumbest man. Well, he has a market, but it’s not taking elite brands and growing them. It’s not even taking struggling brands and making them elite. It’s about making profit with as little outlay as possible (to date).
I always held a similar hope. Newcastle’s profile raises, so does SD. Win, win. However, what makes us think he wants SD to be anything other than it actually is? He either just cannot conform to any sort of general standards, or doesn’t want to. His disdain towards most things in life is clear to see, his motives, less so.
Ibizatoon
Oct 15, 2018 at 4:27 PM
Comment #34RobLeenio…Cheers, had forgotten those two.
I don’t want to appear too quick to dismiss those two to fit my point, but Allardyce could be called an early knee jerk action. He was also drinking with the fans at that time, no?
On Houghton, from memory, the players had become a bit of an issue over bonuses etc, and they had mouthpiece extreme lined up to take over. I do feel that was calculated for reasons over that league position. We were doing pretty decent when he got fired, no?
Jib
Oct 15, 2018 at 4:29 PM
Comment #35jayphoto
even if we are just a platform for advertising to him,
hes not even getting that right…
hear hear
Ibiza
If we had brought ZZ in for Rob Lee I would have been
furious
I just mentioned it as an interesting fact and Jail saw
reds under the bed.
hibbit
Oct 15, 2018 at 4:34 PM
Comment #36Jib
Blackburn Rovers were the club that turned ZZ down for a fee £1.2 million claiming he was not good enough English football
Ibizatoon
Oct 15, 2018 at 4:35 PM
Comment #37Jib…I think you take joy in this exercise. Saying things you know will get to certain posters, but doing so in a way you can later say it wasn’t intended to cause grief.
I could of course be wrong. You know how that is.
toon22
Oct 15, 2018 at 4:37 PM
Comment #38JIB
Who should we lie about being interested in buying us next ?
What about the Von Bismarks ?
toon22
Oct 15, 2018 at 4:38 PM
Comment #39Never has a blog been so dominated as this one woth our resident MA PR representative
It’s never MAs fault
toon22
Oct 15, 2018 at 4:39 PM
Comment #40How long do you think it will be before the HMRC finally catch up with Mikey ?