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Two Things In Rafa’s Favor In Upcoming Negotiations With Ashley


Newcastle are following what happened last season as the lads are starting to play really well and picking up points and if we can continue this, we will be safe in the Premier League very quickly.

The two players who are starring for Newcastle at the moment are new boy Miguel Almiron and local lad Sean Longstaff.

Both players look like future top stars in the Newcastle jersey.

Sean Longstaff has come through the Academy, and it shows Mike Ashley that the manager can indeed produce top players for Newcastle via the Youth Academy.

Rafa is asking for an investment in the Academy so he can produce more Newcastle starters, but he needs the investment.

Rafa Benitez talks to the press while in Spain last month

And that will save Ashley some of Newcastle’s money by not having to do what clubs like Man City, Chelsea, and others keep doing – buying top class players at top class prices.

Sean Longstaff coming through the ranks to become a star this season will support Rafa’s claims that he can produce players on the cheap for Mike Ashley.

That should interest miserly Mr. Ashley.

And Rafa has been trying to sign Miguel Almiron since we were promoted back in the summer of 2017.

Just imagine the change Almiron would have made if Ashley had supported Rafa in the 2017 summer transfer window – and he would have cost less than £20M then.

At the time Rafa said he was signing players he could sign not the players he wanted to sign.

Miguel Almiron was one of those players he wanted to sign.

So Rafa can point to Almiron as a player Rafa wanted, and his transfer fee of £20M looks cheap given the way this lad has started his career in the Premier League.

He has massive potential.

So the two players who have been outstanding for Newcastle lately will only strengthen Rafa’s chances of getting what he wants from Ashley.

Money to develop the Academy and transfer funds to bring in some top players.

The first is to save Ashley money and the second is money well spent.

But the Newcastle owner can still be very stubborn, as we all know.

But Ashley also knows if Rafa is not signed to a long term contract this summer and leaves – the fans will be absolutely livid.

And that’s putting it mildly.

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39 comments so far

  • RobLeenio

    Mar 1, 2019 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #1

    Charlie, I knew you were going to get pelters from certain areas for your views, which you’re entitled to. It’s interesting how some will seize on a specific point and not look at a post in its entirety before claiming to be outraged.

    At this point Jail has spat so many feathers it’s a wonder he hasn’t come down with avian flu.

    I’ve said before that Ashley’s parsimony has, whether intentional or not, shielded us from a gathering football-specific financial storm. We’re not over-exposed with players on over-inflated fees and wages the way some are and the way the FA and FIFA / UEFA are starting to go after teams like Chelsea for poor transfer practice will only serve to limit the funds clubs have available to spend as the senior clubs are shut out from the transfer market. We could very well see the transfer bubble pop over the next couple of seasons and we should be able to ride that out comfortably, unlike some of the clubs you mention.

    I think the point you were trying to make was that Rafa has become a better manager than he was at Liverpool and I also agree with that. He may have previously relied on lavish spending on transfers, he hasn’t been able to at NUFC and his coaching must have improved out of necessity. I don’t see anything wrong with that statement either.

    I think where you went wrong was in saying first up that you didn’t hate Ashley, so people took the rest as justification of Ashley’s actions, which I don’t think you were doing. I read your post as being more supportive of Rafa, which is something we can all get behind.

    Anyway, you’re going to get labelled and frogged. Stay strong, matey – some of us can still read a post objectively.

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  • RobLeenio

    Mar 1, 2019 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #2

    Rafa’s position gets stronger each day, but so too does Ashley’s counter argument

    “You’ve done well with little investment, what’s the point in investing?”

    Rafa’s argument is logical, Ashley’s is born of being a tight-ar$e, but Ashley holds the purse strings. Who wins is vital to the future of the club, let’s hope it’s Rafa.

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  • RobLeenio

    Mar 1, 2019 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #3

    martoon, nadeem was veltman, I’ve pointed this out before. He’s been less obnoxious since his name change, however.

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Mar 1, 2019 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #4

    Robleenio
    Thank you
    You’ve put it much better than I did
    Just tried to put over a balanced point of where I think we are and going

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  • clinath@ed

    Mar 1, 2019 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #5

    Looking at our run in, on current form I fancy us to get 46-48 points.

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  • carltoon

    Mar 1, 2019 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #6

    Love your after the match post’s Charlie. You see the same game As I do. But surely you must hate Ashley.

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  • barkel

    Mar 1, 2019 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #7

    clinath@ed

    Looking at the numbers it seems a bit ridiculous saying that but then saying 5wins out of:
    West Ham United
    Everton
    Bournemouth
    Arsenal
    Crystal Palace
    Leicester City
    Southampton
    Brighton
    Liverpool
    Fulham

    That is quite achievable. With the competitiveness this season I wouldn’t be surprised if we won all 10 but equally wouldn’t be surprised to lose all 10.

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  • RobLeenio

    Mar 1, 2019 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #8

    Charlie, as you’ll have seen, some on here don’t like balanced posts, if it ain’t anti-Ashley, you become the enemy.

    clinath@ed, I reckon you could be right – that’s like 1.5 points per game average between now and the end of the season. Doable.

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  • Oldgit1

    Mar 1, 2019 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #9

    Although people on here are singing Longstaff praises and rightly so, what about Hayden who I believe is giving Longstaff the freedom to play.

    Hayden to me has been an even bigger surprise, I have watched him in replays and the stamina of the guy is phenomenal, his tackles and breaking down play is far better controlled than Mo.

    Bloody shame he has one eye on moving away to join his family as these two would have many years of being an important part of our team and would go from strength to strength. To think he only cost us 2m from Arsenal a great bit of business.

    Now that he is playing regularly perhaps there may be a change of heart by him, if not I will wish him and his family well. But it will be a shame he passed this opportunity by. I can see this lad making his way into the England set up in the future.

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  • Nostradamus the Geordie

    Mar 1, 2019 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #10

    Next week on The life and times of a Newcastle Supporter.
    Will Ashley, won’t he.
    Will Rafa, won’t he.
    Will the fans, won’t they.
    Will the club, won’t they.
    Will Jib finally admit to being Jane.
    Will Toon 22 finally admit to being a Mackem.
    Will the search party find Catchy, let’s bloody hope not as that means we lost.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Mar 1, 2019 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #11

    So RobLeenio chirps in with Mikey’s complete lack of ambition is for the long term good of the club. Jeezus H Christos, blow me down with one of those feathers I’ve just spat out.
    Charlie,
    Over the last couple of years you have been quite outspoken in your criticism of RAFA, nowhere near in the same bracket as catchy and Munster but a critic nonetheless. Your expecting him to stay here and pull us out of the shite each year but don’t think he should be allowed to spend money to do that, the money would be spent betyter elsewhere possibly Charlie, you might be able to explain where exactly, so it’s perfectly ok for you to critice the manager for below par performances of the team while denying him the players he really wants because he never won the league with Liverpool, you couldn’t make it up. I can just picture you Charlie sitting in the Gallowgate while everyone is standing up, defiantly sitting there while the song bellows out, ”stand up if you hate Ashley” it turns out you don’t after all.

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  • Dondatta13

    Mar 1, 2019 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #12

    Charlie… As Muhammad Ali once said “A man that thinks the same at 20 as he does at 30, has wasted 10 years”…

    Rafa is a master at what he does but as great as he is, he acknowledges, he is still learning and trying to improve.

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  • ben.g

    Mar 1, 2019 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #13

    Sadly if Mike still owns us Rafa is away.

    Rafa was bare faced lied to. The money he was promised when we were promoted was pulled.

    Rafa had players lined up to come, had told players they can leave then told ” sorry, there’s only a quarter of what we said”.

    Then he’s questioned over the cheap players he wants to bring!

    Rafa may not of said he was going to leave in January but there was a belief he was going walk in January, hence the last ditch transfers

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  • Nicky the ball tosser

    Mar 1, 2019 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #14

    If Charlie is saying don’t throw money at selling clubs, but do buy wisely, and do invest in the Academy, the training facility, and the scouting network, then I wholeheartedly agree with him.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Mar 1, 2019 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #15

    RobLeenio,
    You think that was a balanced post, that Rafa is better without money to spend and Mikey is better off keeping it????? Our CL winning manager will surely accept this situation and realise Mikey knows best after all and keep us happily from tenth to 17th until he retires without having to worry about any pesky medals to dust.

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  • hibbit

    Mar 1, 2019 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #16

    Charlie
    where’s the balance in Rafa leaving, the lack of investment in facilities and players, a club with no ambition, all point you’ve rised yourself over the years yet your now happy to go a long with it,

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  • Oldgit1

    Mar 1, 2019 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #17

    Re Schar: I’m likening him to Ray Kennedy who use to play for Liverpool who also played in the 5 shirt and scored many goals for them. He in his heyday he used to get forward a lot.

    I think his name was Ray.

    Schar is a special player but do wonder if he goes forward as many times during a match with Rafa approval.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Mar 1, 2019 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #18

    hibbit,
    Does he honestly think that RAFA is going to accept this situation year after year, I think he’s found Bobbybee’s herbal tin this morning.

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  • magscar

    Mar 1, 2019 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #19

    Charlie

    As you are no doubt aware this Blog is populated by Ashley haters who usually give no quarter to those who exhibit less strong reactions to him

    Blog is better for free speech and it is of course it’s raison d’etre ( at least as far as Ed is concerned) don’t necessarily agree with all you say but credit to you for sharing your viewpoint in the knowledge you will get some stick. I am sure that isn’t the reaon for doing so though..

    As Rob says most objective readers will accept your right to express your views and of course reap the whirlwind as long as it is as respectful as your own post

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  • Munster Mag

    Mar 1, 2019 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #20

    Jail, stop peddling the lie that I hate rafa. You know full well that all I’ve ever said is that he is subject to criticism like any other manager. I think he is mint for nufc so stop being a lying village idiot, for a change.

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  • RobLeenio

    Mar 1, 2019 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #21

    “So RobLeenio chirps in with Mikey’s complete lack of ambition is for the long term good of the club.”

    Wow, twisting words much? I said that there could be a financial meltdown in European football, something I’ve said before and I’m not alone. I said we’re insulated from that by not having over-invested on sh!te players for stupid money, but I never gave credit to Ashley for sound financial planning.

    I meant to imply that Ashley’s fallen into this by accident, rather than by good foresight, that maybe didn’t come across as I wanted.

    Obviously if we were to actually support Rafa with ‘every penny generated’ and Ashley would get his foot off the club’s neck so we could generate more, we can still invest wisely and sensibly and move the club forward, but I still wouldn’t want us to go out and spend £25 Million on Jean Michael Seri or £50M on Fred.

    No, Rafa is not better for having no money to spend and Ashley is not better off keeping it. I do wish you’d try and keep things in perspective and try to realise that we all want the same thing here. Rafa backed and allowed to spend money on sensible recruitment, and, failing that, which has been the case to this point, Ashley gone.

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  • Munster Mag

    Mar 1, 2019 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #22

    Rob and Charlie. Ignore Jail. He is a rafa and Ashley obsessive who cannot see the wood from the trees. A bitter little man who will quote you as pro Ashley for as long as he smells this blog out with his lies. Is said recently, many times, that I want rafa at nufc, well funded. Then move upstairs and oversee the club and appoint his successor. Jail decided to publicly interpret this that I hated rafa and was shoving him into retirement. This is the sort of swivel eyed Loon you are dealing with, believe me.

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  • Ajs22398

    Mar 1, 2019 at 12:22 PM

    Comment #23

    Munster it was only last week against huddersfield you were complaining how awful his tactics were and no doubt if we had lost or drawer you’d be saying how he is a dinosaur again.

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  • Paully

    Mar 1, 2019 at 12:32 PM

    Comment #24

    🙂

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  • RobLeenio

    Mar 1, 2019 at 12:36 PM

    Comment #25

    Sean Longstaff nominated for Premier League Player of the Month for February.

    That is actually staggering…..

    Congrats Sean, it’s well deserved.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Mar 1, 2019 at 12:37 PM

    Comment #26

    Munster,
    Where did I say you hate him in my posts today?
    Leave out the liar bit as you told a bit of a whopper yourself the other day.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Mar 1, 2019 at 12:40 PM

    Comment #27

    Charlie

    Some strange comments earlier. I think you just have to look at city and imagine where we could be now but for Ashley’s greed and oafish behaviour. Rafa has given Ash so many chances but when has Ash ever done the right thing even when it’s staring him in the face. Yes other teams have spent big money and sacked managers but the Mansours, or the Abu Dhabi lot that Ash also allegedly snubbed would have made it difficult for anyone to fail with that kind of backing.

    Munster,

    I don’t think they’re saying you’re a Rafa hater per se, but if you go back over your comments down the last few years, the faintly damning praise always seems to have a rider or negative back handed caveat or undertone attached to it.

    I think rafa has just down the best with what is at his disposal. Top scorers and champions in the champo.
    A top 10 finish first season back with almost the same squad and now flexing his muscles again. Yes he made a few duff buys, who hasn’t, but they were a pittance really and easily outweighed by a 3M Shaer, 2M on loan Rondon, free Ki, 6M Fernandez, 4M Dubravka etc, etc.

    Even now Lazaar, Murphy and Gayle seemingly doing well on loan so not total failures in that regard and even teams in Spain and China want Joselu !! Yes I know, can’t figure than one out but you get the drift.

    Rafa has wanted a number 10, ie Almiron forever and as he says you don’t win 13 trophies by not attacking.

    Isn’t it lovely without Catchy.

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Mar 1, 2019 at 12:43 PM

    Comment #28

    Nicky#14
    Got it in ONE
    Buy wisely in players the team needs to strengthen and got the right spirit temperament.
    Then you’ll have a balanced hard working team and no prima donnas
    Invest in the Academy
    Invest in a good scouting system

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Mar 1, 2019 at 12:46 PM

    Comment #29

    And yes I have had a go at Rafa but I’m the last three months I have seen a change in style tactics and with it a better team

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Mar 1, 2019 at 12:56 PM

    Comment #30

    Charlie,
    You bloody genius, buy wisely and we’re on to a winner, don’t you think we’d be better in buying wisely his first choices like Almiron or Townsend rather than your bargain basements. I’ll ask you again, do you think he’ll hang around to pull us out of the shit year in year out using yours and Mike Ashley’s transfer policy.

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  • Lindisfarne

    Mar 1, 2019 at 12:58 PM

    Comment #31

    Guardian – A lovely mid-table irrelevance!
    For a while back there, these two famous old clubs looked in a spot of trouble. West Ham had lost their first four fixtures of the campaign and were rock bottom, while Newcastle weren’t in much better nick, having picked up only one point from the first 12 on offer. Season-long relegation battles were mentioned in dispatches. But it’s not quite panned out like that, two top-drawer managers turning things around to the extent that both sides are now relatively comfortable in mid-table. Manuel Pellegrini’s team trounced the Toon 3-0 during their December hot streak, but Rafa Benítez’s side have grown in confidence since the turn of the year, and Newcastle won at the London Stadium last time around. The outcome may depend on which breakout midfield star stamps their personality on proceedings: Declan Rice or Miguel Almirón? With both sides able to relax a little and play rather than scrap, it could be good fun finding out.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Mar 1, 2019 at 1:00 PM

    Comment #32

    I see free speech embargo being bandied about. Who on earth is saying Charlie can’t say what he said this morning, are we meant to ignore his posts in the interest of free speech, would that not be the same as censoring mine?

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Mar 1, 2019 at 1:08 PM

    Comment #33

    RobLeenio,
    “Stay strong matey” eh wtf, he’s just written a post, not announced he’s got a terminal illness for gawd’s sake

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Mar 1, 2019 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #34

    Ajs22398,
    Awful muck tactics to be precise 😮

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  • Just a fan

    Mar 1, 2019 at 1:22 PM

    Comment #35

    Oldgit
    Re ray Kennedy
    He was never a defender more a midfielder.
    He scored some cracking goals they may be on u tube.
    The last I heard of him he was back up here with some sort of serious illness.
    I think he played for arsenal may have been a defender then.dont know.

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  • c-dog

    Mar 1, 2019 at 1:27 PM

    Comment #36

    Rafa is a genius, give him the cash

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  • Just a fan

    Mar 1, 2019 at 1:31 PM

    Comment #37

    We have had a few owners in my time watching Newcastle.
    I’ve never hated any of them it’s not in my nature.
    Various owners one trophy.
    If we won a trophy under Ashley would he still be hated by many?

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  • RobLeenio

    Mar 1, 2019 at 1:42 PM

    Comment #38

    Unusually positive and cheerful on The Mag today. It seems like the whole of the wider NUFC fan base is feeling chipper lately.

    Funny what a few wins can do.

    Next, we need to get Rafa signed up – he can’t walk away from this, surely?

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  • Charlie in the Gallowgate

    Mar 1, 2019 at 1:45 PM

    Comment #39

    Jail
    Bargain basements Schar, LeJuene, Dubravka, Ki not bad bargain basements
    The team now playing is Rafas except for Lascalles. That’s why I think he will stay building a team that can compete in the top half of the Premiership and maybe win something.

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