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Intriguing Report – Rafa Benitez Planning Major Changes This Summer


TEAMtalk are reporting in an exclusive today that Rafa Benitez is going to make some big changes in the summer and he’s planning a triple swoop with West Brom.

We currently have both Dwight Gayle and Jacob Murphy on loan at the Championship club

The proposed deal is to allow the two loanees to make their moves permanent, but in exchange for three Baggies players – Salomon Rondon, Jake Livermore, and Kieron Gibbs.

There would be money paid from Newcastle we assume along with Gayle and Murphy.

The deal would only happen if West Brom fail to get promoted.

Currently, the Baggies are in 4th place on 70 points and 7 points behind second-placed Sheffield United and automatic promotion – and only six games to play.

West Brom would have to get promoted via the playoffs.

Jake Livermore in action against Newcastle last season

Newcastle must somehow get Salomon Rondon signed permanently this summer if Rafa is to sign an extended contract to stay at Newcastle.

One problem with the swap deal is the form of Jacob Murphy and while the Baggies are keen to sign Dwight Gayle – the same cannot be said for Jacob.

Gayle has scored 17 Championship goals for West Brom this season but Murphy hasn’t played that well while on loan.

In fact, he’s been a bit of flop since he was signed for around £12M almost two years ago from Norwich City.

Rafa has wanted a left back in to challenge Paul Dummett for some time now and the 29-year-old England International Gibbs would do that.

And 29-year-old Livermore can give us some central midfield expertise with perhaps three central midfield players – Hayden, Diame, and Shelvey –  all leaving the Magpies this summer.

So it sounds a decent deal for Newcastle but we’d be surprised if Murphy is included in any deal.

And if West Brom are promoted it’s a non-starter.

And all three West Brom players are 29-years-old and maybe that’s the answer Rafa is waiting for from owner Mike Ashley – whether Ashley is willing to sign these three older players?

The answer is likely to be no.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.

 


105 comments so far

  • Toondog2

    Apr 8, 2019 at 4:17 PM

    Comment #1

    Could always sell Jacob back to Norwich as they are certs to be promoted

    2
  • Jail for Ashley

    Apr 8, 2019 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #2

    Toondog2,
    Would they want him back?

    2
  • Toondog2

    Apr 8, 2019 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #3

    Jail

    Just a thought sometimes they fit better than being promoted to a different club where they struggle
    Also playing in a league higher than their capabilities
    Our own example being Gayle good in the championship ? In the EPL

    1
  • Toondog2

    Apr 8, 2019 at 4:33 PM

    Comment #4

    Also depends on the money of course

    0
  • RobLeenio

    Apr 8, 2019 at 4:37 PM

    Comment #5

    Jail, for what it’s worth, I’m pleased you decided to return, for whatever reason. You’re a part of the fabric of this blog and you’re missed when you’re not around.

    5
  • RobLeenio

    Apr 8, 2019 at 4:40 PM

    Comment #6

    Jib, from previous – I hope you’re right. The sooner Rafa’s contract is sorted one way or another (hopefully positively) the sooner the club can move on with it’s business.

    It feels like we’re in limbo at the moment, honestly.

    1
  • RobLeenio

    Apr 8, 2019 at 4:43 PM

    Comment #7

    “Newcastle must somehow get Salomon Rondon signed permanently this summer if Rafa is to sign an extended contract to stay at Newcastle.”

    I do wonder if that is really the case, or if we’re all overblowing the Rondon-Rafa link? Yes, he’s important to our squad this season, perhaps more so than any other player, but does Rafa want him long term or does he have his eyes on other prizes?

    Not saying he doesn’t want him, but I wonder if we’re guilty of making assumptions on Rafa’s behalf.

    We’ve done it before.

    9
  • Mister Tuff

    Apr 8, 2019 at 4:45 PM

    Comment #8

    Hahahaha – Jib whingeing like a tart.
    “Booohooo booohooo You people are weally jealous of me Boohoo booohoo.”

    6
  • Mister Tuff

    Apr 8, 2019 at 4:47 PM

    Comment #9

    Now Wobin Hood appears on the blog. Hilarious.

    3
  • lesh

    Apr 8, 2019 at 4:49 PM

    Comment #10

    RobLeenio

    Over recent months, Rafa’s been quite vocal about what he hopes to achieve and his expectations in regard to authority over budgets, signings, the Academy and training facilities. That being the case, Rafa’s negotiating position’s been made more than clear to Ashley.

    I would argue that as Rafa’s views have been in the public domain for some time, Ashley should be aware of them – before Rafa’s people sat down with Charnley. That being so, there’s no excuse for Charnley not to have been given some scope to negotiate. However, Ashley being the controller he is, would probably want to negotiate from afar leaving Charnley to do nothing other than relay messages to Ashley.

    If Ashley was serious about wanting Rafa to stay on, I’d have thought he’d become directly engaged in face-to-face or via video and/ or telephone conferencing with Rafa in the hope of agreeing some principles as the basis for discussions between Rafa’s people and Charnley’s entourage.

    However, Ashley’ll be reluctant to be seen as capitulating to Rafa’s demands so compromise has got to be the order of the day. But, in the light of experience, can Ashley be trusted to deliver what he agrees to?

    I think we know the answer to that and barring a miracle, an Ashley awakening, I anticipate so called talks dragging to the point when Rafa’s contract ends and he’s off. Where would that leave the China trip? It’d be the Ashley circus abroad!

    2
  • Toondog2

    Apr 8, 2019 at 4:49 PM

    Comment #11

    RobLeenio

    I agree,good to see a Jail back,

    Slagging people off, point scoring ,general unpleasantness puts some of us off from taking part in the blog which should be about NUFC and football as Ed says his blog is for.
    Always good to have a debate and there are some very good interesting well informed bloggers who I enjoy reading their comments and assessments.
    Good for some of us who don’t have the knowledge but have the support For the Toon ( in my case some 50 yrs)

    2
  • Optimistic Panda

    Apr 8, 2019 at 4:50 PM

    Comment #12

    We only have Rafa because HE approached the club.

    That was a one off, our winning lottery ticket after Ashley pissed on the last one.

    Look at the managers Ashley and his merry men have approached and appointed.

    No young up and coming is going to approach us after Rafa and the merry men will be looking at Moyes etc not young up and coming mangers, GUARANTEED!

    You could write what the people running the club know about managers on a grain of rice!

    8
  • Jail for Ashley

    Apr 8, 2019 at 4:53 PM

    Comment #13

    RobLeenio,
    Why thank you, not according to Moanster mind 😮

    3
  • Jail for Ashley

    Apr 8, 2019 at 4:54 PM

    Comment #14

    Toondog,
    I think he’s going to have to go back to the championship and start over, I’m really disappointed for him as I was really hoping he’d be a star here.

    1
  • lesh

    Apr 8, 2019 at 4:55 PM

    Comment #15

    RobLeenio

    Surely Rafa sees the signing of (a too old for Ashley) Rondon as a matter of principle. If Rafa and Ashley could find a way of signing him (player exchanges?) so there’s no loss of face for Ashley, I’m sure that’d help move things along.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 8, 2019 at 5:06 PM

    Comment #16

    tbh i would hardly be blown away by that proposed deal. Livermore is a real journeyman, gibbs is a sick note and rondon, well can be very hit and miss and all 3, nearly 30.

    8
  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Apr 8, 2019 at 5:14 PM

    Comment #17

    Leicester apparently approached Rafa but wouldn’t leave his contract Rodgers did and all Celtic fans now hate him !! Ruined his legacy there !

    Smart move by Rodgers though Leicester have on paper one of the best teams outside the top 6 and money to spend

    Bit worried we might end up getting pumped on Friday we just can’t handle teams with pace

    5
  • RobLeenio

    Apr 8, 2019 at 5:14 PM

    Comment #18

    lesh “Surely Rafa sees the signing of (a too old for Ashley) Rondon as a matter of principle” – I don’t know, does he? He’s never been precious over specific players, I seem to remember some of the Scousers were really annoyed at some of the player sales he made. Not saying he was wrong to sell them, but he let his head rule his heart, and rightly so. I’ve always said he’s a pragmatist, not a romantic like King Kev. That’s not to put him down, it’s just a different approach, I’m just saying he’s not likely to let sentiment get in the way when it comes to buying or selling.

    Nice summary of where we think the state of play is at #10, by the way. I’m just wondering if we actually ‘know’ these things or if we’re deducing a lot of stuff from snippets of info we’ve been able to glean from semi-factual media reports and hurried post-match interviews, when Rafa’s really trying to avoid the questions he’s been asked.

    I guess time will tell.

    1
  • Jib

    Apr 8, 2019 at 5:25 PM

    Comment #19

    John Carver was at SJP at the weekend !!!

    Gulp

    3
  • Jib

    Apr 8, 2019 at 5:30 PM

    Comment #20

    Debenhams is likely to go into administration this week.
    They have rejected MA’s bid before the 5pm deadline.

    Good

    Ashley can now get on with the important stuff
    giving Rafa what he wants

    3
  • GeordieTwo

    Apr 8, 2019 at 5:32 PM

    Comment #21

    Carver was only there to give Rafa a scalp massage.

    3
  • BlacknWhiteBarmy

    Apr 8, 2019 at 5:34 PM

    Comment #22

    Loving the fact the saviour of the high street is being rebuffed – and this is priceless from a man who, I believe, has been a proven liar

    Sports Direct said Mr Ashley and two colleagues had already taken lie detector tests themselves, the results of which “showed without any doubt” that they were providing an accurate report of the meeting.
    “Indeed, Mike Ashley’s score for example was so significantly high as to be considered rare in comparison to others,” the statement said.

    Gets more like trump every day

    5
  • Pain in the Blog

    Apr 8, 2019 at 5:45 PM

    Comment #23

    I honestly think that MA has no time whatsoever for Rafa right now. All of his attention is on this Debenhams farce and until he sorts that he won’t engage with Rafa – even through Charnley. He doesn’t have time for this distraction and he really doesn’t care. That’s why the ball is in his court.

    I don’t think he’ll give up yet on Debenhams – even if the board have rejected his offer – and if the whole thing drags on and Rafa walks, MA won’t give it a second thought. Why should he? He can just pick up the thread again when Debenhams is finally sorted and if we’re in the Championship by then he’ll rinse and repeat with Charnley’s latest managerial choice.

    2
  • Paully

    Apr 8, 2019 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #24

    If it came down to it I’d take Jail over Moanster hands down.

    Welcome back Jail.

    21
  • hibbit

    Apr 8, 2019 at 6:08 PM

    Comment #25

    The Guardian and others are now saying Debenhams have turned down Ashleys offer

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/apr/08/debenhams-mike-ashley-rescue-deal

    5
  • Lindisfarne

    Apr 8, 2019 at 6:11 PM

    Comment #26

    Everything is Black and White podcast suggesting the lack of finishing derives from nervouness and lack of surety the players have with the future.

    0
  • Lindisfarne

    Apr 8, 2019 at 6:13 PM

    Comment #27

    I would be sure to tell Debenhams that Mike Ashley is a liar and not to believe any of his promises.

    6
  • hibbit

    Apr 8, 2019 at 6:15 PM

    Comment #28

    Lindisfarne
    i tnink they already know that they just turned his offer down !!!!

    5
  • G

    Apr 8, 2019 at 6:16 PM

    Comment #29

    Meanwile on the story: when Rafa hints at major changes I just hope he doesn’t include scenery changes.

    2
  • jane

    Apr 8, 2019 at 6:54 PM

    Comment #30

    “NUFC Under-23 team to face @stokecity: Harker, Sterry, Walters, Watts, Bailey (c), Cass, Allan, M. Longstaff, Sørensen, Sangare, Longelo.

    Substitutes: McEntee, Huuhtanen, Juanito, Touré, Bartlett.

    Kick-off at the bet365 Stadium is at 7pm”

    https://twitter.com/NUFC

    1
  • Rotonda heights

    Apr 8, 2019 at 6:55 PM

    Comment #31

    Its quite hilarious ashley calling for lie detector tests. Ycmiu !!

    6
  • jane

    Apr 8, 2019 at 6:57 PM

    Comment #32

    PREMIER LEAGUE 2 DIVISION TWO TABLE

    1 Southampton U23 20 +12 39
    2 Wolves U23 19 +22 37
    3 Reading U23 20 +12 37
    4 Newcastle Unit… 19 +12 34
    5 Aston Villa U23 19 +5 33

    https://uk.soccerway.com/national/england/premier-league-2-division-two/20182019/regular-season/r49650/

    2
  • Lindisfarne

    Apr 8, 2019 at 6:58 PM

    Comment #33

    Newcastle United FC
    ?

    @NUFC__OFFICIAL
    8m8 minutes ago
    More
    OFFICIAL: Rafael Benítez has this evening resigned as Newcastle manager

    1
  • Jib

    Apr 8, 2019 at 6:58 PM

    Comment #34

    Rotonda heights
    Its quite hilarious ashley calling for lie detector tests

    You are aware he took one first ?

    0
  • Lindisfarne

    Apr 8, 2019 at 7:00 PM

    Comment #35

    Sorry, fake account

    0
  • G

    Apr 8, 2019 at 7:02 PM

    Comment #36

    Lindisfarne, I was about to point out your calendar is a week out mate

    1
  • Ron Knee

    Apr 8, 2019 at 7:08 PM

    Comment #37

    Imagine having the quality of Pedro, Willian and Giroud sitting on the bench!

    1
  • beermonkey

    Apr 8, 2019 at 7:09 PM

    Comment #38

    jib

    ashley has taken a lie detector
    what was he doing on the jeremy kyle show

    5
  • Lindisfarne

    Apr 8, 2019 at 7:10 PM

    Comment #39

    G

    Next Monday then?!!

    1
  • Mister Tuff

    Apr 8, 2019 at 7:30 PM

    Comment #40

    Good to hear that Mr Tubbs will be sorting out Rafas’ contract at the back end of the week.

    1

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