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Jonjo Shelvey Has Tense Meeting With Rafa – Player Likely To Leave Newcastle


The Sun is reporting today that central midfielder Jonjo Shelvey has held emergency talks with Newcastle manager Rafa Benitez about his situation at the club.

Jonjo has not started a game for the club since last November and there were rumors in January that West Ham manager Manuel Pellegrini wanted him for a fee of £20M.

It’s strange because Shelvey was a key man for us last season but with the emergence of local North Shields lad, Sean Longstaff in central midfield can allow Rafa to cash in on the England International this summer.

Jonjo went to see Rafa on Friday morning before the game at Leicester City where Newcastle won 1-0 and it was said to be a tense and frank meeting between the two of them.

Jonjo Shelvey and Rafa Benitez – tense but frank meeting

And the manager is reported to have told Shelvey he’s not in the side because he’s not fit enough – and certainly not match fit.

But you can’t get match-fit unless you play some matches and get sub appearances to get back into games.

Jonjo was an unused sub in the terrific win at the King Power Stadium – our last game before we take on Southampton on Saturday at home.

It seems it’s almost certain now that Shelvey will leave Newcastle this summer but the 27-year-old will be disappointed because he really likes it at the club.

Jonjo joined us in January 2016 for £12M from Swansea and since then he’s played 109 games for us with 7 goals and 19 assists – and was a key player in getting us promoted two years ago.

Comments welcome.


187 comments so far

  • Jib

    Apr 16, 2019 at 3:12 PM

    Comment #1

    Ole Gunnar says it will be difficult at the Camp Nou
    tonight .

    Try umulig – my Norwegian friend

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  • RobLeenio

    Apr 16, 2019 at 3:14 PM

    Comment #2

    I feel for JonJo, and I like him as a player, but this controversy over his non-inclusion has been going on for weeks now.

    I’m yet to be convinced that he brings anything to our significantly in excess of what other players bring. Schaer and Lejeune can both knock the ball forward accurately to our forward players, they also play in Central defence giving greater potential flexibility to the midfield. Ki, Hayden and Longstaff all bring greater dynamism in midfield, either 2 playing together or any one playing with Diame for extra solidity.

    It’s a tough decision that Rafa has ahead of him, Shelvey is without doubt one of the most talented individuals within our squad, but a team does not rely on the talents of its individuals, it relies on how those talents blend to deliver a performance.

    If there are multiple better combinations than any that contain Shelvey, then he will be better off looking for pastures new.

    I feel for him though, he’s worked hard on his game and on his attitude.

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  • magscar

    Apr 16, 2019 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #3

    Repost – 2 buses pass!! – helpiing with baby sitting and trying to post do not make for best compatible tasks

    Micky

    I recall listening to Talksport on the way back home a few months ago and a WBA fan was voicing something similar on lines of mostly strugglng in PL for around 7 seasons and not really enjoying it and wondering was it not better to do well in a very competitive Championship and win regularly. Some other yo-yo club fans had some sympathy with his view and the novelty of being in the big boys league soon wore off. Pundits were very scathing of such unambitious views though and I think demonstrated the often difference in viewpoints of fans and ex-players.

    Of course it can get worse after relegation as Charlton, Coventry and Bolton fans amongst others will testify.

    I have mates who support local non-league teams and really enjoy their football with only a passing interest in PL.

    It’s perhaps all about realistic asperations of your club’s potenial both immediate and long term.

    Leeds won the first ever PL and have spent more years out of it than in it including a spell in League One but i know they believe they belong in PL. and will return if not next season then soon- they will never give up that expectation.

    Contrast this with say a club like Bournemouth who have deservedly benefitted from staying in PL in a very different financially rewarding time than when Leeds began to struggle in late 90’s but conceivably if they do go down in year or so ( lose players or manager) may find it difficullt to return – would their fans just recall the great years in PL with wam memories and not instead become disenchanted and frustrated with club have to seemingly settle for Championship or less with no realistic prospect of ever getting back after tasting PL for some years. Likes of Wigan and Charlton had similar stays but look unlikely to ever make it back soon.

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  • Jib

    Apr 16, 2019 at 3:23 PM

    Comment #4

    It is noticeable that the players that Rafa
    becomes disenchanted with are those with
    disciplinary issues , Mitro , Colback now JJS

    4
  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Apr 16, 2019 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #5

    He did blot his copybook with Rafa saying he was fit when he wasn’t but I can’t see Rafa being so upset he wouldn’t play him or want to move him out cos of it.

    I’m sure we’ll see him again before the season is out.

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  • magscar

    Apr 16, 2019 at 3:26 PM

    Comment #6

    Lesh

    Couple threads back re cut and paste, thanks for comment. I realised Jib was jibbing – so wasn’t expecting you to have a go 🙂

    1
  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Apr 16, 2019 at 3:32 PM

    Comment #7

    What’s the problem with bloggers copying and posting info, I often do it if I think it may be of interest to others.

    Does that make me an attention seeking blogger?

    4
  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Apr 16, 2019 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #8

    Speaking of young potentially good players, one I think to watch out for is Elias Chair a Stevenage youngster.

    1
  • DaveD1000

    Apr 16, 2019 at 3:37 PM

    Comment #9

    Bill
    only if you pay attention to the Blog Police. Carry on counting down and burning chicken feathers to keep us on a roll.

    5
  • G

    Apr 16, 2019 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #10

    “Leeds won the first ever PL”. No they didn’t that would be Manyoo the following year.

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  • G

    Apr 16, 2019 at 3:41 PM

    Comment #11

    The year after Leeds won the last Division 1 title that is. 91/92 was Division 1 top flight. 92/93, when Manyoo won was the first Premier League title.

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  • Nostradamus the Geordie

    Apr 16, 2019 at 3:42 PM

    Comment #12

    Sorry last post said Burnley, meant to say Bournemouth. I mentioned Chris woods and was informed that he was bottom of some list as a striker.
    I looked him up and he has scored 10 goals in the Prem this season and is ahead of our strikers and only players that would cost 25 Million upwards have scored more.

    He’s 27 so falls into the age bracket that Mike Ashley might allow. Sorry if it offended people but if he can score 10 with Burnley what do you think he can score with Newcastle.

    Just looking at possible two target men for next season, Ronnie and Woods and with the add on of having a strike force named Ronnie Woods it would be awesome to have Wild Horses played at home games.

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  • magscar

    Apr 16, 2019 at 3:50 PM

    Comment #13

    G

    Thanks for correction – just goes to show i didn’t google it 😉

    Hope you would agree that it doesn’t materially alter my point though

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  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Apr 16, 2019 at 3:53 PM

    Comment #14

    Nostradamus

    I reckon you’re correct in you comment, he is a player who will score goals at any level.

    There’s always going to be someone who disagree’s with other peoples opinions, no need for you to apologise for your’s.

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  • G

    Apr 16, 2019 at 3:54 PM

    Comment #15

    No magscar, wasn’t having a pop either, hence the 2nd post (when I read the 1st post back it sounded a little snaggy, wasn’t meant to be though).

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  • magscar

    Apr 16, 2019 at 3:56 PM

    Comment #16

    Nostradamus

    Re Wood I think he falls into my thinking of “right” player for right “team” . He is just right for Burnley’s style but I don’t think he is quite what Rafa is looking for in a striker right now.

    His goal return correlates to how Burnley play to him and I am not sure he would be as effective in a current Rafa set-up so wouldn’t be too interested – unless of course he could get him for less than a chunk of what ever budget he may have 😉

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  • Lee Charnley Bunga Party

    Apr 16, 2019 at 3:56 PM

    Comment #17

    Did Burnley not sign Woods for over 15 million though? Doubt we would be getting him for the bargain prices we like to shop around in!!

    1
  • Ron Knee

    Apr 16, 2019 at 4:11 PM

    Comment #18

    “In fact, when cross-examined about this Mr Hennessey displayed a very considerable – one might even say lamentable – degree of ignorance about anything to do with Hitler, Fascism and the Nazi regime.

    “Regrettable though it may be that anyone should be unaware of so important a part of our own and world history, we do not feel we should therefore find he was not telling the truth about this.”

    Cf Monty Python footballer sketch: “I’ve fallen off my chair, Brian.”

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  • Geordie-john

    Apr 16, 2019 at 4:22 PM

    Comment #19

    He’s gonna go. Surplus to requirements. Ashley can feel the £20M+ in his hand.

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  • lesh

    Apr 16, 2019 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #20

    Essex

    I, sir, don’t have a problem with folk copying other people’s stuff but modest folk like you have the decency to attribute whatever’s been copied to its original source and/ or writer.

    For reasons known only to one of The Blog’s regulars, that poster copies pieces in without attribution, as though from his/ her own creative mind – as though being the authority on life, the universe and everything else.

    Beats me why that’s necessary but it takes all sorts to add colour to a pageant.

    2
  • magscar

    Apr 16, 2019 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #21

    G

    No probs – didn’t think you were having a go and remembered the fact as soon as I read your post.

    We of course gave that inaugural season a miss but present along with Leeds were such ( broken ) “Yo-Yo” teams as

    Coventry
    Blackburn
    Oldham
    Ipswich
    Forest
    Sheff utd
    Sheff Wed
    Boro
    Norwich
    Villa
    Wimbledon
    QPR
    Villa

    It was big 4 back then (which we were about to burst into for a time) but the above clubs apart from Norwich and Villa briefly never threatened the status quo until big money arrived at Chelsea then Man City.

    It will take a slow and sure build as Rafa seems to be settling for or absolutely massive money for the current top 6 to be seriously disturbed as Everton are finding out season after season despite the money spent and frequent change of managers. Even when one or more underachieve as they did in our fifth position finish under Pardew they bounce back immediately the following season.

    I believe that Rafa with imaginative backing can build an attack on top 6 but sooner or later big money will be needed to break in there and stay in there.

    There is always possibilty of one of clubs imploding because of say money being pulled out (Chelsea) or getting transfers and non CL qualification wrong with significant overheads biting (Spurs) but to take advantage you need to be poised ready to take their place with a viable sustainable plan and set up or it becomes just another lucky 5th place.

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  • lesh

    Apr 16, 2019 at 4:30 PM

    Comment #22

    I can’t be bothered to do it, but as a way of assessing Rondon’s worth, might it be possible to argue that without his goals, we’d be further down the table than we are?

    At £Xm a position, it should be easy to calculate what sort of difference his absence could have made to income and possibly showing Ashley that a players worth to a club is not necessarily in his sell on profit.

    Any takers?

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  • magscar

    Apr 16, 2019 at 4:30 PM

    Comment #23

    Villa Villa

    So much a YoYo club I included them twice ha ha

    MInd not having a dig at them as they deservedly won European cup in a time when building a team wasn’t all about excessive funds as did Forest

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  • Ron Knee

    Apr 16, 2019 at 4:31 PM

    Comment #24

    RIP Les Reed

    2
  • lesh

    Apr 16, 2019 at 4:34 PM

    Comment #25

    Ron Knee

    You’d think that Mr Hennessey had never seen ‘The Producers’ or The Great Dictator or even Basil in the ‘don’t mention the war’ sketch in Flowery Twats.

    Ignorance does have its upside I suppose.

    0
  • lesh

    Apr 16, 2019 at 4:36 PM

    Comment #26

    Ron Knee

    Who Les Reed?

    1
  • Ron Knee

    Apr 16, 2019 at 4:40 PM

    Comment #27

    lesh

    He wrote “It’s Not Unusual” amongst others.

    2
  • magscar

    Apr 16, 2019 at 4:46 PM

    Comment #28

    On thread I am in line with Robleenio’s thoughts and would add that Rafa hasn’t previously been afraid of letting players go at other clubs but is used to of course then having more or less free rein on spending money and on whom he chooses! Gotta just trust him in sales and aftermath.

    Still wonder whether with Hayden probably going, Diame not getting a 2 year deal would Rafa want so much of a rebuild in one window or would the fee let him develop his midfield plans quicker?

    We all have an opinion on what would happen if Jonjo was sold but guess not necessarily the same 🙂

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  • magscar

    Apr 16, 2019 at 4:54 PM

    Comment #29

    Ron/Lesh

    Arrh – thought it was Les Reed – Charlton manager ( at least for a few weeks) .

    Don’t know if he has record of shortest reign in PL ( there is famous 44days of Cloughie at Leeds in old Div1 which of course no longer counts in the SKY and now general media rewrite of football history.

    Have to say found It’s Not Unsual very irritating nearly as much as Englebert’s Please Release Me – another of my Mams’ favourites.

    1
  • JP...from The Rock

    Apr 16, 2019 at 4:57 PM

    Comment #30

    Shelvey was instrumental in our Championship season. Played well last season but has tendencies to lose his temperament and slows our play considerably as he constantly goes over to our CBs and asks for the ball to play a hollywood pass. It’s counterproductive as he should really be in a CM position asking for the ball not going back to our defenders to receive it! With players like Schar and Lejuene that can comfortably play a hollwood pass from the back he does really seem surplus to our play now, especially when you add to the fact that we have young Longstaff that has shown he is as capable as Shelvey yet younger and more mobile.

    I appreciate the fact that Shelvey recently played for the reserves to gain match fitness and showed his professionalism but I am afraid we no longer need him and depend on him as we once did.

    Something that has bugged me with Shelvey though is his lack of goals for us. As an attack minded player playing in the middle of the park he has really not scored enough from midfield for us.

    I would cash in on him and invest the money wisely (if Ashley let’s us do that) especially for £20m.

    4
  • DaveD1000

    Apr 16, 2019 at 4:58 PM

    Comment #31

    Magscar
    I thought that but maybe Rafa has something lined up? (If he stays ofc)

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  • Ron Knee

    Apr 16, 2019 at 5:01 PM

    Comment #32

    magscar

    The song tormented lots of us in 65. Reed also wrote The Last Waltz!

    1
  • hibbit

    Apr 16, 2019 at 5:12 PM

    Comment #33

    The Last Waltz
    without Rafa it could very well have been with our owner 😉

    1
  • ronaldo aarons

    Apr 16, 2019 at 5:15 PM

    Comment #34

    Got that poor excuse of a referee Anthony Taylor this weekend v Southampton.

    1
  • Mister Tuff

    Apr 16, 2019 at 5:15 PM

    Comment #35

    With the reported face to face meeting between Rafa and Shelvey it looks increasingly likely that Shelvey is out the door in the summer.

    Not sure whether the reported reason of him not being fit will have an adverse effect on his sale value.

    1
  • beermonkey

    Apr 16, 2019 at 5:16 PM

    Comment #36

    lesh

    i said the otherday about rondon the club should work out what he is worth to club i bet he is worth more to us than his 16mill fee
    the same can be said for rafa we have had 18 televised matches and i think we have another 3 4 lined up i think it is 2mill a match if it televised i might be wrong
    we were joined 8th for televised matches last season not bad for newly promoted team

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  • Jib

    Apr 16, 2019 at 5:16 PM

    Comment #37

    I couldn’t stop speaking in a Welsh accent

    I couldn’t stop chasing women

    I kept swivelling my hips

    my Doctor diagnosed me with Tom Jones Syndrome.

    “Is it common?” I said.

    “Well…” He replied
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    “It’s not unusual”.

    4
  • DaveD1000

    Apr 16, 2019 at 5:19 PM

    Comment #38

    K Jib
    you want shooting for that one

    2
  • Jib

    Apr 16, 2019 at 5:20 PM

    Comment #39

    😛

    1
  • Ron Knee

    Apr 16, 2019 at 5:21 PM

    Comment #40

    The Last Waltz blighted 1967.

    Come on You Seagulls tonight!

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