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Ashley Will Continue To Shackle Rafa – Transfer Targets Held Up By Uncertainty


There’s news in the Chronicle today that because of the uncertainty of Rafa’s future the club have not been able to identify precisely which transfer targets they will go after this summer.

And if the negotiations for Rafa contract go on past the end of the season, then it could well start to interfere with what is expected to be a vital transfer window for the club.

Players can be signed on July 1st which is the start of the new financial year.

Rafa Benitez leaving St. James’ Park on Saturday night

But the last thing we need is for the negotiations on Rafa’s contract to continue for another excruciating few weeks – if that happens, we may even see white flags being waved by Newcastle fans.

Enough is enough.

Players coming in will need to know Rafa is staying at the club.

It’s bad enough the incompetence of Newcastle at the higher levels is being reported in the National press.

It seems Newcastle are determined to show everybody – as far as negotiations go – they can do nothing quickly – and don’t want to either.

Rafa is the man who’s holding Newcastle together – the fans, the players and he has full support from the Newcastle City Council.

The one man who is not in tune with everything right now is Mike Ashley – and that’s been a problem for twelve years now.

Ad it’s not likely to change over the next couple of years either.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news on this Tuesday morning but we don’t think Rafa will be allowed to do what he wants to do at Newcastle – with Ashley still the owner.

For Rafa to succeed Ashley has to sell up and leave.

Comments welcome.


68 comments so far

  • Jail for Ashley

    May 7, 2019 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #1

    Jail’s too good for Ashley!!

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  • RobLeenio

    May 7, 2019 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #2

    Scaremongering from the Chronicle. The person responsible for holding up Rafa’s contract talks was Rafa himself, and for good reasons, ie footballing reasons. He even told us that, months ago.

    Sorry, Ed, you’re being pulled into an emotional response to a situation which is probably way less serious than the Chronicle would like us to think – after all, if they don’t produce sensational headlines, they don’t get the clicks they need to sell their advertising space.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 7, 2019 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #3

    martoon,
    I should make a better fist of the FF next season. I got asked on a Thursday night if I wanted in and had till Saturday to put together my team without knowing the first thing about the rules, I put in two CB’s a LB RB DM etc, not realising you are better of with a defence full of full backs and a midfield full of wingers, I thought you got points for tackles, passes etc. I’m aiming for top ten in Ed’s league next year.

    1
  • DubaiMicky

    May 7, 2019 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #4

    I saw what you did there JfA.

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  • DubaiMicky

    May 7, 2019 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #5

    To be honest I wouldn’t be that bothered about ashLIE being the owner IF and it’s a big IF, IF he gave Rafa the tools to make top 8 with a chance of a cup final.

    I’d be OK with that, would love it if we had an owner that would get us to top 4, but, as that’s not realistic, give Rafa the tools and the Gallowgate may well forgive you ashLIE.

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  • Munster Mag

    May 7, 2019 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #6

    Ed that’s clickbait. We’re not at that stage yet as such. Let’s see if they can negotiate a contract and then rafa can chase targets. As Mickey says if Ashley gives him the tools we will basically ignore Ashley and get on with supporting the team. Although they didn’t win, Leicester had some tidy players on the pitch and 4 more quality players could make us a dangerous proposition. But the will need three things. Pace, creativity (even if defenders) and the ability to learn a compact but counter attacking game an to a T. In other words, intelligent players.

    4
  • estechco

    May 7, 2019 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #7

    RobLeenio @2 – How is that “holding up talks” rather than simply not finding the contract on offer acceptable? To negotiate you need two parties present. One clearly is willing to sit down, the other one isn’t even willing to communicate

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  • RUNAWAY777

    May 7, 2019 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #8

    Its that time of the year again when we will be in for this player and that player and we my get some left overs who know one wants, which suits ashley less to spend. What will happen if rafa leaves which know one wants, will the supports still fill sjp or will they finally turn on ashley and penfold only time will tell.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 7, 2019 at 11:37 AM

    Comment #9

    Has anyone worked at Bletchley and can still operate a deciphering machine?

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  • magscar

    May 7, 2019 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #10

    Jail

    Basically echoing the frog

    We’ll only get left overs to save money and if Rafa goes will support go

    1
  • Ron Knee

    May 7, 2019 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #11

    Mark Douglas@MsiDouglas

    #nufc still the only team to take as much as a point off Man City since December 30…. Rafa, that.

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  • Ron Knee

    May 7, 2019 at 12:11 PM

    Comment #12

    Everton v NUFC Under-23s:

    8th May 2019 7:00 PM

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  • martoon

    May 7, 2019 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #13

    A lot of it is luck – I used exactly the same tactics this year as I did last but I’m doing a lot worse. You have to get off to a good start because after a few weeks most people have a lot of the same players in their teams so it’s hard to make up a lot of points. I’m convinced people at the top of the national league use some kind of cheat software because if you look at their teams and some of the decisions they make such as triple captain – no one would ever normally do that!

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  • martoon

    May 7, 2019 at 12:16 PM

    Comment #14

    *Post @13 was for Jail!

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  • ronaldo aarons

    May 7, 2019 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #15

    Ron
    To emphasise that point @11 and frankly, think it looks better like this.

    W 2-1
    W 3-0
    W 3-0
    L 1-2 (#NUFC)
    W 3-1
    W 2-0
    W 6-0
    W 1-0
    W 1-0
    W 3-1
    W 2-0
    W 2-0
    W 3-1
    W 1-0
    W 2-0
    W 1-0
    W 1-0

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  • hibbit

    May 7, 2019 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #16

    martoon

    the top of the national league must be made up of Scousers if there’s cheating involved 😉

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  • Pain in the Blog

    May 7, 2019 at 12:31 PM

    Comment #17

    Jail #9,

    That actually made me Laugh Out Loud.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    May 7, 2019 at 12:32 PM

    Comment #18

    martoon,
    When you look at some of that Game Weeks top scores it’s got to be kids with loads of different teams, I remember one Friday night someone had a team consisting of the four teams playing that night and Coleman (I think) as triple captain, there’s no way that was someone’s main team. So when you see 6M workd wide there probably is in reality about a million.

    1
  • posada

    May 7, 2019 at 12:35 PM

    Comment #19

    If Liverpool had drawn with Man City they would be Prem Champions.
    They would have gone through the season unbeaten. The new Invincibles.
    Sadly, for them it looks like it won’t be.
    Fine margins have worked against them.

    All of you as fellow football supporters should have some empathy with that. Just as they did with us when it was close but no cigar in 96.

    Ooo Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ooo A Ha Ha Ha Ha.
    Oooooooo Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Oooo A Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.

    To the tune of The Laughing Policeman.

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  • Geordie-john

    May 7, 2019 at 12:41 PM

    Comment #20

    You Greedy Fat Twat. You are lose the best asset that NUFC have , Rafa. If he goes you deserve what you get

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  • RobLeenio

    May 7, 2019 at 12:53 PM

    Comment #21

    estechco
    May 7, 2019 at 11:25 AM
    Comment #7
    RobLeenio @2 – How is that “holding up talks” rather than simply not finding the contract on offer acceptable? To negotiate you need two parties present. One clearly is willing to sit down, the other one isn’t even willing to communicate

    You take me wrong, I didn’t mean Rafa was being obdurate in refusing to talk to the club, but it’s been reported that the club wanted to start negotiations in January (?) and Rafa has been saying since that he didn’t want to talk until we were safe.

    That’s holding up the talks, but for good reason – he wanted to concentrate on the football.

    Nor should we be saying the club have been unwilling to communicate – Rafa put in his requirements a few weeks ago, it seems sensible for the cub to take their time to consider how they go about fulfilling those requirements. It may have taken longer than we want, but you wouldn’t expect Ashley to cave in completely to a set of demands which may go against the policies by which he wants to run the club. Much as we might want Rafa to have free rein to run the club, that’s never going to happen in any business.

    This is why it’s been said that both sides will need to compromise. Make no mistake, Rafa will not compromise on anything that stops him from doing his job properly, but if he was sensible (and he is) he will have demanded more from Ashley than he actually wanted / needed in order to give some wriggle room.

    Anyway, I’m confident from what Rafa has said that they are now talking and will get this situation sorted sooner rather than later.

    I’m also pretty sure that Rafa will know who he’d like to sign and sell this Summer already andwill have made the club aware.

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  • welshgeordie9

    May 7, 2019 at 1:02 PM

    Comment #22

    What transfer targets

    Ha ha ha

    2
  • Jib

    May 7, 2019 at 1:03 PM

    Comment #23

    I thought Ayoze was mentally saying farewell to SJP
    during the lap of honour , he looked quite pensive.

    1
  • Jib

    May 7, 2019 at 1:06 PM

    Comment #24

    Welshie congrats
    Your team have achieved the same position
    in the Championship (10th) as NUFC did in
    the PL last season.
    Jolly good show – but no cigar

    6
  • Jib

    May 7, 2019 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #25

    Derby days again in Old South Wales
    Bloobyrds and Jacks knocking lumps off of each other
    Lovely jubbly

    2
  • geordietom

    May 7, 2019 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #26

    Question for TOON22

    Did you get a answer back from the F A ?

    Not holding my breath on a answer …

    Any way i’m back from Spain on Thursday can’t belive TOON22 called everyone on here the other night shills or pr

    TOON22 another question have you ever been to ST James Park or watched Newcastle live are you really a Newcastle fan…? ?

    6
  • welshgeordie9

    May 7, 2019 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #27

    Jib

    Fun times ahead

    Ha ha ha

    1
  • welshgeordie9

    May 7, 2019 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #28

    I vote for kompany to be the best player in the league this season, don’t know why.

    Ha ha ha

    2
  • RobLeenio

    May 7, 2019 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #29

    Ron Knee, that Everton game for the U23s is seriously difficult – Everton are the runaway leaders of PL2 Division 1, the division which we are trying to reach through the play offs.

    They are the best U23 team in the country, it’s going to be some effort if we beat them.

    Can we do it? Of course we can, but the odds are against us.

    A Sorensen hat trick might do it, though…

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  • welshgeordie9

    May 7, 2019 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #30

    I’ve come to a conclusion that toon22 is a first class tit.

    2
  • welshgeordie9

    May 7, 2019 at 1:23 PM

    Comment #31

    Only joking toon22

    1
  • martoon

    May 7, 2019 at 1:42 PM

    Comment #32

    geordietom – The trouble with Toon22 (and I’ve told him this) is that he does a good job with his anti-Ashley stance but then loses all credibility by accusing reasonable posters such as NY Mag of being KBA PR. When all NY is trying to do is analyse the accounts and explain them to the rest of us in a way we can understand.

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  • lesh

    May 7, 2019 at 1:50 PM

    Comment #33

    Click bait or not, Ed’s piece captures the reality of the situation – as far as we know.

    Rafa reportedly responded to the club’s proposals over four weeks ago with his counter-proposals and understandably, didn’t want to be distracted from the task in hand over ensuring Prem safety. The club’s had over four weeks to consider Rafa’s proposals and now the club’s Prem status is assurer, there is no excuse at all for not seriously engaging with him.

    We know the transfer window’s early and short this year and one of Rafa’s wishes was for the club to be smarter in getting business done early.

    So, where are we know?

    The club’s owned by Ashley and he has the say so on expenditure yet he seems to be adopting a hard nosed negotiating style with one of his key employees in Rafa. The longer this goes on, the dafter it becomes in that he’s not negotiating with an external party, he’s trying to do Rafa over and at the same time, put the club’s Prem status at risk for a third time! One must question Ashley’s sanity.

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  • cyprus

    May 7, 2019 at 1:50 PM

    Comment #34

    Kompanys goal must be goal of the season, especially given its significance.

    I think Perez will get a good offer, he’s gone. Rafa, 50/50.

    Both City and Liverpool to draw. Amazing if they lose premiership with just one loss.

    NUFC to lose last game.

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  • RobLeenio

    May 7, 2019 at 2:13 PM

    Comment #35

    lesh “The club’s had over four weeks to consider Rafa’s proposals and now the club’s Prem status is assurer, there is no excuse at all for not seriously engaging with him.”

    They have been – Rafa said so in interview at the weekend:

    “I was talking with Lee Charnley (managing director) this week and we will let you know as soon as we have more news. I am positive that we are talking and everybody knows what my idea is. It seems that things are moving forward. The positives outweigh the negatives.”

    Why is everyone so keen to hammer the club over something that actually seems to be going smoothly?

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  • RobLeenio

    May 7, 2019 at 2:21 PM

    Comment #36

    It’s like everyone has their fingers stuffed in their ears chanting ‘la, la, la, la, I’m not listening”.

    Ashley’s regime is spiteful, vindictive, a fungus on our club. He’s ripped off so many different commercial streams it’s untrue, sold our best players, hidden the proceeds (as far as I know) and undermined a succession of good managers and club legends, while promoting idiots and brown nosers. We know his list of crimes, but we also know he’s not stupid. He’s not going to let Rafa leave, but Rafa wouldn’t talk to him and now he is, they’re making progress. What more do folk want?

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  • lesh

    May 7, 2019 at 2:23 PM

    Comment #38

    RobL

    You know as well as I do that Charnley’s role is that of intermediary who’ll have been told what to do and what not to do – wasting valuable time! Surely a telephone, video or face-to-face with Ashley’s the most efficient way to sort things out.

    As I said, Ashley’s risking HIS club’s financial viability by playing hard ball. It’s not as though he’s negotiating with an external body or person and surely it’s in his own interest to sort things out quickly – the man’s deranged, a megalomaniac, crazy.

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  • Oldgit1

    May 7, 2019 at 2:29 PM

    Comment #39

    Liverpool fans have hit a new low by setting off fireworks outside the hotel housing the Barcelona players. Disgusting, desperation measures being used, as if cheating players, and disrespect to the NUFC team by Klopp was not bad enough.

    Sorry but any respect for the club is down the toilet.

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  • RobLeenio

    May 7, 2019 at 2:30 PM

    Comment #40

    lesh “Surely a telephone, video or face-to-face with Ashley’s the most efficient way to sort things out”

    You and I know that, but it’s not Ashley’s style. We know that too, so just put it to one side and listen to what Rafa’s saying. He’s the most reliable source in this matter.

    I reckon the deal will be done, sorted and inked in time for the Fulham match, leaving Ashley to fly in, shake Rafa’s hand and pose for the photo opp, before releasing a club statement saying he was personally responsible for sorting Rafa’s long-term commitment.

    We’ll know it’s nonsense, but too many (especially in the media – Rio Ferdinand, I’m looking at you) will lap it up and say “these Geordies have never had it so good”.

    Ashley PR 1, Geordie Nation 0. Except, of course, we will have actually secured our best guarantee that Ashley can’t stiff us in the future in Rafa. That’s a win in anyone’s book.

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