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Alternate Facts On The Ashley-Rafa Meetings Since Thursday – Have Surfaced

We have noticed there has been very little news today and even yesterday on the supposed meeting going on with Rafa Benitez, Mike Ashley. and Lee Charnley at a secret location in London.

According to well-respected north-east journalist George Caulkin of the Times, there was a meeting on Thursday afternoon between Rafa and Lee Charnley, and that’s basically it.

The two are still apparently talking but remotely, with Rafa likely back at his home in the Wirral on his short holiday?


Mike Ashley and Lee Charnley – what’s there to laugh about?

But Caulkin has verified there have been no breakthroughs in the talks so far, which unfortunately is consistent with other reports of the last two days.

Mike Ashley has to give in on some of Rafa’s requests to make the team great again otherwise he could trigger the disaster scenario with Rafa leaving Newcastle.

If that happens the biggest of all the losers will be the Newcastle owner.

It’s good they are still talking, but how long are these talks going to go on – and on – and on – for?

Just a thought.

Comments welcome.

69 comments so far

  • jane

    May 18, 2019 at 2:06 PM

    Comment #1

    “Bournemouth have agreed a £13m fee with Bristol City for England Under-21 defender Lloyd Kelly.

    The 20-year-old has been monitored by most of the Premier League’s top clubs this season.

    Kelly made his league debut for City in December 2017 and his England U21 debut in November 2018.

    He played 32 games in the Championship this season as Lee Johnson’s side just missed out on the play-offs.”


  • Essex Geordie Bill

    May 18, 2019 at 2:09 PM

    Comment #2

    Hong Kong Citi Super Sevens that our yunguns won last year and are playing in again this year, now 11 hours to KO

  • martoon

    May 18, 2019 at 2:15 PM

    Comment #3

    Tuff – to be fair to Jib he was technically correct a Local Area Network (LAN) is usually associated with wired and when it has wireless elements then gets know as a Wireless Local Area Network (WLAN) although sometimes the term LAN is used to cover both but not absolutely technically correct.

  • Essex Geordie Bill

    May 18, 2019 at 2:20 PM

    Comment #4

    So we’re not signing him, one less to worry about!

  • Online Guy

    May 18, 2019 at 2:24 PM

    Comment #5


    And where do you think the plt is going when it comes down the power lines ?

    Yes that’s right..straight into your homes . It does not stay overhead on the national grid Jib, it’s coming to you .

    Homeplug also sends data and RF power over your mains wiring ..but your doing that bit yourself.

    The RF might be at low levels but it’s carried on unshielded wiring ..your mains wiring that is not fit for purpose and never has been . Not designed for it . It spews interference all over the short wave bands a vast part of the Radio spectrum .

  • Online Guy

    May 18, 2019 at 2:31 PM

    Comment #7

    Take a pair of HOMEPLUGS that deliver plt ..power line transmissions Jib onto your mains wiring , switch them on ..

    Bring your new Baby into its new room..or its RF cage ..set RF cage at EMF RF low level ..(Electro motive force, cook slowly for 15 years .. gene altering , DNA altering , mood changing , you must have had a doze of it early doors.

  • Just a fan

    May 18, 2019 at 2:34 PM

    Comment #8

    Mr tuff
    How is anybody supposed to take you seriously when you go on about this jibjane just a fan rubbish.
    Mind it does make a change from your former childish opening which was jibjiberish.

  • toon22

    May 18, 2019 at 2:37 PM

    Comment #9

    The only reason Rafa hasnt sign a new contract is because MA wont give him what he wants to sign

    MA thinks Rafa is demanding too much

    You couldnt make it up

  • Online Guy

    May 18, 2019 at 2:37 PM

    Comment #10

    Anyway Jib plt is not on the grid in the UK it’s just people who use home plugs for personal use are inducing it by buying the damn things.

    So you know nowt there ,

    I see what people mean now about you googling shite . You suddenly become the expert and you know Fk all about it. Spouting crap and calling me a berk ..

    I don’t mind the berk bit it’s the bit when you pretend to yourself your some authority on any subject.

    Reel yer sell in Jib there’s a good Lad.

  • toon22

    May 18, 2019 at 2:37 PM

    Comment #11

    Just a fan

    Hiya JIB

  • sing in the corner

    May 18, 2019 at 2:46 PM

    Comment #12

    West Ham, according to reports, are also sniffing round Rondon and his release clause.
    We need to get our finger out and get him signed. West Brom, West Ham, Wolves..?
    Even the alphabet is against us.
    Welease Wondon!! To the toon!

  • sing in the corner

    May 18, 2019 at 2:47 PM

    Comment #13

    And COME ON Watford!!

  • Jib

    May 18, 2019 at 2:51 PM

    Comment #14

    I didn’t say it was on the grid you buffoon
    I said you’d mistaken a report on powerline
    danger by confusing plt with those big pylon
    cables which are called power lines.
    You know
    ” I’m a lineman for the county ”

  • Online Guy

    May 18, 2019 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #15

    Online – I’m not familiar with Homeplug so I’ll do some research – I prefer to use 40 years engineering experience than conspiracy theory websites. Also RF is proportional to the square of the distance – big difference to straight proportion!

    Martoon ..those are not conspiracy websites , they are Govt websites .

    And RF is proportional to the sq of the distance ..straight proportion is for the layman reading here .

    I know that the RF spewed out from Homeplug is travelling on wiring not designed for it and the EMF is forever present ..turning your house into one big unregulated transmitter of crap causing an RF fog across the spectrum .

    The RF is at the Non Ionising end of the spectrum and might be looked on as safe but microwave cookers are also at the same non Ionising end of the spectrum , Shielded though.

    Take a look at smart meters ..data on the mains ..EMF.. problems in the USA where it’s been rolled out wholesale ..it’s happening here now.. as you know .

    Anyway Who knows what long term health implications it has for our children .

    Look at the USA studies on smart meters.. not as bad as Homeplug for interference but still akin to the method with data on power lines .

  • Jib

    May 18, 2019 at 2:53 PM

    Comment #16

    I’d love to see a conversation between Mr Tuff
    and OLG.
    It would be like Stanley Unwin talking to Wurzel Gummidge

  • Online Guy

    May 18, 2019 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #17


    I have not mistaken a report on powering danger and have never said that ..

    Stick to Glen Campbell… stop wriggling .

  • ronaldo aarons

    May 18, 2019 at 2:55 PM

    Comment #18

    If we had a yes man in charge, this contract would have been wrapped up long time ago.

    If we ran from the top like a real football club, generally speaking, rafa would have signed.

  • Online Guy

    May 18, 2019 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #19


    I have not mistaken a report on powerline danger and have never said that ..

    Stick to Glen Campbell… stop wriggling . Pull your pants up its unsightly.

  • Yorkgeordie

    May 18, 2019 at 2:56 PM

    Comment #20


    EMF is another name for voltage.

  • Chancel My MBembaship

    May 18, 2019 at 2:58 PM

    Comment #21

    Ashley doesn’t care about the club. We’re just a side project that is guaranteed to generate him money every year thanks to the cash coming in from the league. All he has to do is keep the bare minimum amount needed to ensure we’re ticking over season after season and he can focus his attention elsewhere on things he actually likes, such as building his high street empire.

    He’s never going to give Rafa what he needs because it’ll exceed the amount Ashley expects to put into club. He’s not looking to improve the club and move us forward, he just wants us to maintain our current level. Unfortunately he doesn’t realise that doing so will see us slip further down the league when clubs around us are actually spending money to compete.

  • Big Archie

    May 18, 2019 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #22

    “Mike Ashley has to give in on some of Rafa’s requests to make the team great again otherwise he could trigger the disaster scenario with Rafa leaving Newcastle.”

    Surely Rafa also has to give in on some of Ashleys requirements, otherwise its not actually a negotiation.

  • Online Guy

    May 18, 2019 at 2:59 PM

    Comment #23

    Apologies lads for banging on about the Homeplug..etc.

    I just wanted to get the message across that an Ethernet cable will give you 100% speed and total security..same as cat6 shielded cable

    Take an Ethernet cable and plug it into the back of your computer and the other end in the modem and watch your speed double.

  • Online Guy

    May 18, 2019 at 3:00 PM

    Comment #24


    Electronic motive force

    Magnetic fields.

  • Yorkgeordie

    May 18, 2019 at 3:01 PM

    Comment #25

    Electro Motive Force is another name for voltage

  • Jib

    May 18, 2019 at 3:02 PM

    Comment #26

    Ha ha ha
    I’ve just checked it out
    Powerplugs do wipe out radio ham users
    they hate them
    So to try and combat them they have come up
    with the cock and bull about them being dangerous for
    and OLG found a report about Powerlines being dangerous
    2 + 2 = 5 I’m afraid.

    So OLG proposes that a community using extenders should
    be banned because they can make a nasty noise for the poor
    occasional radio ham user.

  • Online Guy

    May 18, 2019 at 3:04 PM

    Comment #27

    I’m away for a few days ..thank Fk for that eh !

    See you later Jib . Pull those shorts up now ! Ha.

    Dream of pylons ..or maybe no ..dream of nylons .

  • Yorkgeordie

    May 18, 2019 at 3:07 PM

    Comment #28

    Or the difference in voltage between two points

  • Optimistic Panda

    May 18, 2019 at 3:07 PM

    Comment #29

    Electromotive force is another name for voltage not electricity.

  • Jib

    May 18, 2019 at 3:10 PM

    Comment #30

    I always thought OLG was a bit of a country squire type
    Can’t have the damned peasantry wandering all over the place
    it interferes with the grouse – shooting doncha know.

  • 9

    May 18, 2019 at 3:16 PM

    Comment #31

    Rafa for Brighton, anyone?

  • Jib

    May 18, 2019 at 3:18 PM

    Comment #32

    From LPool he could get to Paris as quick as Brighton
    He may as well go to PSG

  • peterk3

    May 18, 2019 at 3:24 PM

    Comment #33

    If Raffa walks, how about Chris Houton?

  • Jib

    May 18, 2019 at 3:25 PM

    Comment #34

    I doubt Hoots would work for Ashley again

  • hibbit

    May 18, 2019 at 3:27 PM

    Comment #35

    it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that Italy could be Rafa’s final destination when the dust final settles

  • Optimistic Panda

    May 18, 2019 at 3:28 PM

    Comment #36

    If Rafa leaves Charnley will get the managers job, hes doing all the other jobs at the club including cleaner tea boy and chief biscuit carrier.

  • GS

    May 18, 2019 at 3:34 PM

    Comment #37

    Did I somehow stumble on a telecomm engineering blog?

  • jimiley

    May 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM

    Comment #38

    The whole negotiation between Rafa and Ashley is a scam. Just like the Tory and Labour Brexit thing. They have to be seen to be trying to compromising to let the fans down gently. When the talks fail they can then blame each other.
    Ashley has no intention of giving Rafa what he wants.
    He bought the club on a whim for a couple of hundred million without due diligence but it takes days for the owner who has total control to make a decision. He has known for months what Rafa wants!!!!
    The talks should last about half an hour?
    Wages? Sorted
    New academy? Sorted
    Transfer budget? Sorted
    Sole control of transfers? Sorted
    If they are not sorted then Ashley can stipulate the transfer figures and whether the manager has sole control at the meeting. (The real stumbling block I would guess). Ashley does not need to go away to work out how much Rafa can have. He will have a ball park figure in his head.
    Rafa then has to make a decision if he will accept less and less control. Half an hour max.
    The fact its dragging on is a scam. Just like the transfers drag on until we sign nobody. This saga will drag on until Rafa fails to show up on Tyneside one day in June. He will still be waiting to here from Ashley on 30th June

  • Jib

    May 18, 2019 at 3:40 PM

    Comment #39

    Think of the EPL (Rafa’s preference) destinations available:-

    LPool Man City Arsenal Wolves Leicester West Ham
    Watford C Palace Soton Bournemouth Burnley

    all sorted

    Spurs – if Poch leaves it would be for the same reason as Rafa
    lack of funds
    Man Utd ?
    Everton ?
    Chelsea ?
    Brighton ?

    The promoted teams aren’t going to appoint a new manager

  • jazzyp

    May 18, 2019 at 3:48 PM

    Comment #40

    No sense of urgency.The window only opened a couple of days ago so no need to panic that obviously no transfer plan is in operation again.
    Wolves according to media now in talks with Rondon.
    Ey things are running swimmingly again lads


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