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What Rafa Wants From Ashley – But Owner Wary Of Giving Manager Too Much Control


There’s a report in the Chronicle today that tries to explain how Rafa has been working over his three years at the club.

Rafa was solely responsible for the choice of players coming into the club, and while players have been suggested to him by other people, it was his decision whether he wanted them.

On the other hand, Mike Ashley and company have the option not to fund some of Rafa’s choices, because, for example, they were too expensive, and that happened two years ago.

That’s when Rafa said he was signing the players he could sign and not the players he wanted to sign.

Rafa Benitez – wants total control of the transfer funds given to him

The Chronicle are reporting the club will agree to the same level of control Rafa has at the moment – but it seems that Ashley can still turn the manager’s request down – and that to us seems the point of contention.

Before Rafa arrived on the scene, the club’s transfer policy was carried out by committee with Lee Charnley and Graham Carr also having input when Steve McClaren was the manager.

But what does Lee Charnley know about football and players?

And you can get odd decisions coming out of committees (because the people in the committee have different ideas) and the standing joke is that a camel is a horse designed by a committee.

The Chronicle makes an effort to point out that while Ashley can shoot down one of Rafa’s transfer targets and not bring the player in, for whatever reason – too expensive, too old – they also have not gone above his head and brought in players he didn’t know about and didn’t want.

But that’s hardly something that should even be brought up as a positive because when they did exactly that in September 2008 with Kevin Keegan, it was a complete disgrace.

But we think the real point of contention is that Rafa does not want Mike Ashley to be able to decide whether he wants to spend money on the player.

If that remains the case, then Ashley is still essentially controlling who comes in – as happened two years ago when they were second-rate (cheaper) players.

What Rafa wants is to be able to spend the transfer money as he sees fit, and if he wants to spend £30M on one player – so be it.

That level of financial control for Rafa seems to be something that Mike Ashley is not willing to give in to.

That’s likely where the deadlock lies at the moment.

We’ll just have to see if they can come to some agreement … as time goes by.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.


85 comments so far

  • lesh

    May 25, 2019 at 7:29 PM

    Comment #41

    Munster

    The only things Jib knows are where his booze is and that Google can provide the information to feign knowledge!

    3
  • KMW

    May 25, 2019 at 7:29 PM

    Comment #42

    Tskunki,

    You are the biggest k**b on here by far.

    6
  • Moonraker15

    May 25, 2019 at 7:30 PM

    Comment #43

    With regard to potential replacements for Rafa it doesn’t beat thinking about! It’s not that there aren’t other good managers about, rather the fact that any new manager would have the restrictions that stop the club progressing. There are only 2 options ; 1 Rafa stays; 2 Ashley sells up!

    4
  • OneAlanShearer

    May 25, 2019 at 7:40 PM

    Comment #44

    Moonraker
    …my thoughts exactly. If rafa goes ashley has to go. No way forward if he stitches rafa up.

    3
  • Jail for Ashley

    May 25, 2019 at 7:49 PM

    Comment #45

    KMW,
    What was your last post before that?

    1
  • Mag :P

    May 25, 2019 at 7:51 PM

    Comment #46

    Jail don’t feed the troll mate.

    3
  • ben.g

    May 25, 2019 at 7:55 PM

    Comment #47

    Murphy was Rafa’s 2nd choice, Townsend was his 1st choice.

    Share was down Rafa’s list, don’t know how far down but not 1st.

    Muto was OKed by Rafa but was best option out of who was offered.

    The problem is/was Ashley when getting Rafa to stay when we were relegated agreed to his vision. Rafa could spend the budget as he saw fit, on lots of players or 1 player.

    Then the “sale” was going to happen and Ashley shut down the agreement, as he was selling.

    Budget cut and Rafa had to ask for players.

    Rafa won’t take Ashley’s word now. He wants everything in black and white.

    Can’t blame him for that

    4
  • toon22

    May 25, 2019 at 7:59 PM

    Comment #48

    KMW

    Hiya JIB

    5
  • Jail for Ashley

    May 25, 2019 at 8:01 PM

    Comment #49

    It’s not that we’ll not get another manager, of course we will, what Rafa leaving signals is that the owner is officially confirming to those that didn’t know already, is that he has absolutely no intention of delivering any type of success and there’s nothing we can do about it.

    2
  • Jail for Ashley

    May 25, 2019 at 8:02 PM

    Comment #50

    For Mikey, giving us PL football is enough and we should be grateful.

    2
  • ben.g

    May 25, 2019 at 8:08 PM

    Comment #51

    The problem is jail we can’t help supporting Newcastle sadly.

    I will be deflated if he leaves.

    I know someone who knows a couple of players, they said Rafa was talking about next season and that type of stuff.

    I thought it would be done n dusted by now. Something is happening and it’s getting worrying.

    There might be a backlash if Rafa goes, it won’t last long though

    3
  • Essex Geordie Bill

    May 25, 2019 at 8:09 PM

    Comment #52

    beermonkey

    Sorry for late reply, been having me tea!

    I reckon that Matty could step into the 1st team now.

    Lesh

    Yeah my little add on on my comment was taking in the horrible possibility of Ashlie cashing in (shortsightedly) on Sean.

    3
  • Munster Mag

    May 25, 2019 at 8:11 PM

    Comment #53

    I’m still not sure why we can’t call a spade a spade and say x y and z were poor signings and chosen by rafa. It’s not as if this is a hanging offence, to get it wrong, but you would hope that we won’t make too many other 10mill mistakes. At the end of the day nobody forced us to choose barecca and Murphy. Just because Townsend wasn’t in our available doesn’t make Murphy a good choice. Once again I’m. It hanging rafa but ffs we can’t even have logical discussions about this because some blog noisy boys who have never been able to answer straight questions, might get excited that I want rafa out! Bonkers.

    4
  • Jail for Ashley

    May 25, 2019 at 8:17 PM

    Comment #54

    Munster,
    Please just shut up you insufferable bore, nobody is saying Rafa hasn’t made bad signings, he is working under extraordinary circumstances for a man who’s idea of success is avoiding relegation.

    13
  • ben.g

    May 25, 2019 at 8:20 PM

    Comment #55

    I know what your kinda saying Munster. The only real time rafa has got his 1st choices are when we were relegated sadly.

    So Mat sells, grant Hanley and the left back (can’t spell the name) began with a A.

    I think Murphy had potential but failed. Not huge money and not big wages.

    But jail is kinda right, you can’t judge the manager on signing not 1st choices.

    We can’t praise share and rubbish Murphy on Charnley.

    2
  • ben.g

    May 25, 2019 at 8:23 PM

    Comment #56

    P.s Hanley didn’t get a lot of game time, but has not flourished at Norwich

    2
  • toon22

    May 25, 2019 at 8:28 PM

    Comment #57

    Munster Mag

    Its never MAs fault

    2
  • Essex Geordie Bill

    May 25, 2019 at 8:30 PM

    Comment #58

    Can’t see why Murphy is being mentioned as a poor signing, he hasn’t had enough playing time to show that one way or t’other.

    Manquillo was being mentioned as a poor signing but a run of games has suddenly lifted him up the popularity stakes.

    Still time for Murphy to come good imo!

    5
  • ben.g

    May 25, 2019 at 8:31 PM

    Comment #59

    What is fact, is that rondon and miggy were rafas 1st choices.

    They worked out ok

    2
  • Essex Geordie Bill

    May 25, 2019 at 8:32 PM

    Comment #60

    tooon22

    Back to my question, do you think that Ed and Neil are on MAs PR team, your comment would suggest that you are thinking that way.

    2
  • ben.g

    May 25, 2019 at 8:34 PM

    Comment #61

    Murphy may come good. And for me I think ol’ manqui looked great coming in for yedlin.

    You didn’t notice him, like dummet on the left

    Steady 7/10, which is good!!!

    3
  • Essex Geordie Bill

    May 25, 2019 at 8:35 PM

    Comment #62

    As for Barrecca, who know’s, a lone 1st team appearance shows now!

    1
  • Essex Geordie Bill

    May 25, 2019 at 8:38 PM

    Comment #63

    And in case no one else has mentioned it the U23s won the HK 7s beating Rangers in the final, not sure how many Sorensen scored in the tournament but he was banging them in for fun!

    2
  • Munster Mag

    May 25, 2019 at 8:40 PM

    Comment #64

    Well done Jail, you’ve finally been big enough to have a mature discussion and admit that rafa made errors. That’s a fair and balanced comment just as it’s fair and balanced to say that schar was a great signing. It’s quite simple really. We know he is working under awkward conditions.

    3
  • lesh

    May 25, 2019 at 8:41 PM

    Comment #65

    Mister Tuff

    You’re a very angry man. Have you thought about taking up yoga or even venting your spleen in some other way? Try knitting an effigy of Ashley then unpicking it stitch by stitch while sitting on a bean bag while listening to a recording of the sounds of a rain-forest.

    Failing that, punch a wall and get it out of your system.

    3
  • Munster Mag

    May 25, 2019 at 8:42 PM

    Comment #66

    Essex mate he hasn’t played much because he’s not good. I’d be happy to see me eat my words as he has good pace and seems like a decent skin

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  • Essex Geordie Bill

    May 25, 2019 at 8:43 PM

    Comment #67

    My 1st attempt at this comment failed!

    As for Barrecca, who know’s, a lone 1st team appearance shows nowt!

    That’s better, makes sense now! 🙂

    0
  • lesh

    May 25, 2019 at 8:46 PM

    Comment #68

    Munster

    Might it not occur to you that Rafa may have been presented with Hobson’s choice with some of ‘his’ signings – take him or get nobody for the position you want to reinforce.

    4
  • ben.g

    May 25, 2019 at 8:46 PM

    Comment #69

    I always think that if you can get that wound up on a anonymous blog..

    Life must be pretty good!

    2
  • Essex Geordie Bill

    May 25, 2019 at 8:49 PM

    Comment #70

    Munster

    I disagree, It’s another of these confidence things imo. A 1st team run with Almiron, the new look Perez and Jonjo could set him up nicely, although it wouldn’t surprise me if he wasn’t a makeweight in a transfer deal during the window, so we might never know!

    2
  • ben.g

    May 25, 2019 at 8:53 PM

    Comment #71

    I’d keep Jonjo. Upgrades need elsewhere

    1
  • Tsunki

    May 25, 2019 at 8:57 PM

    Comment #72

    At least Munster nobody’s calling you a b@&£*rd and “pond life” so it’s not all bad. 😉

    I dunno that river plate kit with the black outlined red stripes looks a bit suspect to the bleary-eyed ha ha.

    My last five a side kit purchase was actually a Chile National squad, a fetching solid red number but at about £10 a steal. Plus the socks were a couple of quid so cheap kit ha ha

    2
  • Tsunki

    May 25, 2019 at 8:58 PM

    Comment #73

    Lesh no you can’t have that Rafa either signed them all or signed none. That’s it. Finished.

    2
  • geordietom

    May 25, 2019 at 8:59 PM

    Comment #74

    geordietom

    May 25, 2019 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #6
    repost … again …

    after reading through all last nights comments …

    god TOON22 your boring as phuck man give it a rest .try talking about the team or talk about fried egg sarnies .try to make conversation with people on here you might like it .instead of banging on about the same old crap day after day . people are sick and tired of it . do you have a life outside of this blog ? try putting your comments all together instead of bombarding the blog with your incessant your a PR your a shill hiya comments . so come on try and talk about something different for once …

    sits here waiting for TOON22’s back up to have ago at me … like i give a shit …

    4
  • Tsunki

    May 25, 2019 at 9:02 PM

    Comment #75

    All signings are speculative because there are too many variables affecting how a player with promise will actually turn out. Show me a manager with 100% signing success…….

    3
  • Tsunki

    May 25, 2019 at 9:04 PM

    Comment #76

    Geordietom – what’s equally boring is you rhyming on about it marrer ha ha just ignore him honestly you’re heading for an ulcer 🙂 honestly not having a dug just looking out for your blood pressure 🙂

    3
  • geordietom

    May 25, 2019 at 9:10 PM

    Comment #77

    tsunki …

    i like 90 per cent of the people on here are sick and tired of his shite…

    but like the frog says he will be here till Fat Ash leaves . well i’ll keep banging on till he changes his tune …

    2
  • Tsunki

    May 25, 2019 at 9:11 PM

    Comment #78

    With that post – if it is your first contribution – it looks like it’s actually you not me, KMW

    5
  • geordietom

    May 25, 2019 at 9:11 PM

    Comment #79

    plus my blood pressure’s fine …

    this boring old fart is doing ok …

    1
  • Tsunki

    May 25, 2019 at 9:12 PM

    Comment #80

    Brown paper bag over the mouth just concentrate on breathing “the frog is nothing to me” just keep repeating until you pass out 🙂

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