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Positive Noises On Contract Talks Coming From Both Sides

Sky Sports reporter Keith Downey was part of a Sky Sports’ Transfer Talk podcast last Friday, and he gave an update on Rafa’s drawn-out negotiations which we reported on earlier today.

The gist of the talk was that progress was being made in the negotiations and that Rafa wants many changes made in the way Newcastle have done things under Mike Ashley for twelve years.

If this all goes through and Rafa signs a new deal we have to believe that Ashley has agreed to make the majority of changes Rafa has asked for.

But as Downey points out, Newcastle always do things laboriously slowly – and this is no exception.

The three major negotiators – Ashley, Rafa, and Charnley
One looks puzzled, one seems fed up, the other looks smug

Newcastle make snails look like the fastest things on the planet.

That has to change.

The piece by Keith Downey is generally favorable to Rafa signing.

This is what Downie told Sky Sports’ Transfer Talk podcast:

“So there’s a lot of paperwork and a lot of toing and froing to go through.”

“As we sit here, Friday lunch-time, the contract still isn’t signed.”

“I wouldn’t be surprised if it goes into next week. The noises I’m hearing are positive ones from inside the club and Rafa’s side.”

“But I suppose with Newcastle and the way they are and the way things have gone in the past, no-one will actually believe that until they see it in writing.”

“And he’s standing inside St James’ Park with a scarf above his head.”

Let’s hope we get some positive closure on Rafa early next week.

This thing has gone on far too long.

Comments welcome.

93 comments so far

  • Optimistic Panda

    May 26, 2019 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #1

    Has Rafa been offered £50m a season and its £61m this window as £11m has carried foward from Jan.

    £50m isn’t that much, even with sales which are drip fed back to the club.

    £16m for Rondon isn’t a kick in the arse off a 3rd of the budget, I’d buy Rondon then what, glad its hopefully going to be Rafas headache but £50m doesnt look like the amount a club wanting to progress and grow would be spending.

    If theres a announcements of training facilities being upgraded then I’d accept the £50m as sensible if not its pitiful in today’s game.

  • Dragon64

    May 26, 2019 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #2

    Going through the posts from the night shift thought I might of missed something after seeing 200 odd post but nope just that friggin frog talking to himself again sad

  • RonVanDam

    May 26, 2019 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #3

    Ideal transfer budget should be 100m for 2019/20 season, 50-70m for every season thereafter not taking into account any player sales
    The next question is, are the transfer budget’s inclusive of player wages? Knowing MA’s dealings, he will try and underhand any deal he makes

  • Munster Mag

    May 26, 2019 at 10:00 AM

    Comment #4

    Ah ffs when I logged on just now I thought we had got something sorted. Ed!!!

  • Munster Mag

    May 26, 2019 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #5

    So was the Frog talking to himself half the night? The boy needs psychiatric help. If rafa gets a good deal, can you please stfu and leave the blog alone?

  • geordietom

    May 26, 2019 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #6

    Dragon …#2 …

    you’ve got to laugh at him mate …

    he kept saying ”we” . who’s ” we ” ? … like i said in a earlier thread there’s more than one person at different time’s of the day doing the typing . different styles spring to mind …

  • Ron Knee

    May 26, 2019 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #7

    In the interests of fairness and balance…

  • geordietom

    May 26, 2019 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #8

    munster #5 …

    if he went to see a psychiatrist he would call him one of Fat Ash’s PR’S or SHILL …

  • martoon

    May 26, 2019 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #9

    geordietom – I’ve long suspected that Toon22 is more than one person because his style, grammar and spelling varies.
    ‘we arnt that thick’ is a modern-day classic :mrgreen:

  • Diddly

    May 26, 2019 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #10

    The frog or frogs are entitled to there opinion. I just scroll past him now pointless reading same old repetitive stuff. Hope for an announcement soon.

  • geordietom

    May 26, 2019 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #11


    agree with you mate … different grammar and styles as i said …

  • geordietom

    May 26, 2019 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #12

    even if Rafa signs a new contract . we will still have the frog banging on … his words i’m here till Ashley leaves …

    i just wish he would converse with people on here instead of calling everyone shills ect…

  • geordietom

    May 26, 2019 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #13

    NY mag …

    if your up and about you said your moving to Michigan ..where abouts mate … also you gonna change your name ?…

  • martoon

    May 26, 2019 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #14

    Diddly @10 Yes he is entitled to his opinion but what he isn’t is to throw groundless accusations at respected posters!!!

  • ronaldo aarons

    May 26, 2019 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #15

    According to Lee Charnley, we’ve spend 109m over the last two seasons. Have a look and see what that means and how far that gets us.

    I will add though it’s not just about spending money and more money the better but generally speaking.

  • ronaldo aarons

    May 26, 2019 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #16

    Oh and he said no money for spending in infrastructure. Either/or that or transfer spending.

  • Diddly

    May 26, 2019 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #17

    Very true martoon. As I say I don’t read them so don’t know what’s said. It’s good to have a proper debate not name calling and childish stuff. We’re not politicians. I think he will stay it seems too quiet. Apart from journos having a bit guesswork. Somethings afoot me thinks.

  • Bambams

    May 26, 2019 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #18

    It’s annoying that due to Ash constant ‘free advertising of sd’ our club misses out on a regular stream of commercial money – which could be put towards buying players/wages

    So £50 million is not going to do wonders if its including the whole player package.

    Yes CharnLIE stated we are looking at more quality than quantity….yeah right.

  • lesh

    May 26, 2019 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #19

    Off thread but referring back to some posts earlier today. It struck me that if the story about Quataris buying into Leeds United are true, then that could be another nail in NUFC’s coffin, in the medium to long term.

    The one and only time I was at Elland Road (in the mid eighties), it struck me as a big stadium sitting on a big site, then presumably owned by the club. If that’s still the case then it’s ripe for development. Looking at Arab sponsored club’s elsewhere, Leeds United could be ready for growth ala Citeh.

    Now where NUFC’s concerned, under the care of Mikeyboy, he seems to see the short term and won’t sell up unless the offer suits him and SD meaning his greed may mean we’re stuck with him and his parsimonious financial management. In the meantime, the likes of Leeds grow as a new European league evolves – and NUFC stays where it is.

  • martoon

    May 26, 2019 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #20

    Diddly – I agree I am hopeful Rafa will stay but it’s agony waiting for an announcement!

  • geordietom

    May 26, 2019 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #21

    as Sherlock Holmes said ” The Games Afoot ”…

    really hope so this time would be nice for it to break big style … ”Newcastle United have been sold ”…

    i wish …

  • martoon

    May 26, 2019 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #22

    Charlton v Sunderland 1998: The greatest play-off final ever? – http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48356991
    A good article and a good result 🙂

  • hibbit

    May 26, 2019 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #23
  • Bobbybee

    May 26, 2019 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #24

    Leeds are a strange club. For all their YRA and big club talk, the reality of Leeds, is, and always has been, the majority of people in Leeds support teams outside of Yorkshire.
    For a big city, they’ll never be a Newcastle – a smaller city – because the vast majority of people in Newcastle support the club. There is only one club and it goes, beyond football. NUFC is an extension of the city and the entire area. We remind the rest of the country that we exist through football. The North East is alive and well, despite being constantly ignored by London. We don’t allow them to forget us, as much as they’d like to.
    Its about pride in your city, the area and the people. Leeds hasn’t got that and never will have it. Newcastle is black and white. Sunlun is red and white – with patches of B&W all around it 🙂
    Other cities could be like us – Leeds and Cardiff are huge examples – but until the locals show the same pride we do and support their local team in big numbers – we’ll continue to be a City that shines brighter than others. Because Newcastle, United, can never be defeated.

  • Sad Frog II

    May 26, 2019 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #25

    Conspiracy? Rafa and Ashley making some profit together. Always same show cas` they need some cash.

  • Bobbybee

    May 26, 2019 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #26

    Hibbett, chill my friend, he’ll sign. It’s taking time because he’s getting everything in writing this time, so there’s no cheating allowed by the knacka.
    Sounds like the agents and briefs are now going through it with a fine toothed comb, which generally means an agreement has been reached verbally.
    Rafa can’t rush this because he needs, it to be right. Ashley can’t rush things because… Well, he never can. He’s a bit slow and it amazes me how he’s ever achieved anything. He must have good advisors.
    We’ll hear more BS before the deal is done, but it looks close now. I’ve always firmly believed he would sign an extension – and that goes, back to his first season here when everybody expected him to walk when we went down.
    There’ll be no overnight miracles on the pitch, it’ll take time, but with Rafa in charge improving the team every season, we’ll get back amongst the big boys eventually. Until Ashley sells up, that’s as good as we can hope for. Challenging for cups will do me for now matey.

  • Jail for Ashley

    May 26, 2019 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #27

    How disappointing when getting up at six this morning after seeing six pages of threads to catch up on only to find out it was the frog and people baiting him, I’m not sure what is more repetitive, geordietom not giving a phuck about the frog or the frog himself?

  • Bobbybee

    May 26, 2019 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #28

    Sad frog 11, that’s either a jest, or mischief making, or a complete lack of knowledge re Rafa’s history. I suspect its a jest. 🙂

  • jimiley

    May 26, 2019 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #29

    Rafa signs and Ashley stays.
    Rafa staves off the inevitable year after year until he retires and then we get relegated.
    The future is Ashley. Nice.

  • jimiley

    May 26, 2019 at 11:48 AM

    Comment #30

    There are five suitors for Leeds United including Qatar.
    None of them interested in Premiership Toon.
    I wonder why.
    The future is Ashley. The future aint bright.

  • Legolas

    May 26, 2019 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #31

    I posted something this or Similar a few days ago. Thought people might be interested.

    Somebody I work with is very friendly with the Longstaff family. Have been for years. They were talking with Sean and it got around to football. He was asked about the Manchester United link. He was actually asked your not signing for them are you. He said I will be staying at Newcastle for a few seasons and then see what happens.
    What was interesting they added that he was a Man Utd fan when he was younger and was always in a Man Utd strip when playing football on the field.

  • Sad Frog II

    May 26, 2019 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #32

    Cursed club, but i stay if Rafa goes

  • martoon

    May 26, 2019 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #33

    I’ve seen a lot of people suggesting that Ashley will delay until the end of June until Rafa’s contract runs out. That’s makes no sense because while Ashley does not have the ambition we all want he will certainly want to protect his investment – which means getting Rafa signed up and sell season tickets.

  • Bobbybee

    May 26, 2019 at 11:57 AM

    Comment #34

    Unlike yourself, I don’t have a crystal ball that clearly doesn’t work. We have no idea what the future is, a heart attack could intervene at any time, or an offer he won’t refuse.
    But if Rafa is staying, its because he’s getting everything in writing. It’s because he believes that, despite Ashley, there is something here worth working for and he thinks he can achieve something.
    He could walk away, but he gets loyalty and hopes to reward it one day. Good on him.

  • Sliema

    May 26, 2019 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #35

    If I ever get round to having kids they’ll be in for a good smacking if any of them turn out to be mancs. Simply not acceptable. Not in my hoose!

  • geordietom

    May 26, 2019 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #36

    or not giving a phuck about jail … did that wake you up …

  • jimiley

    May 26, 2019 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #37

    Why would Rafa stay and work under Ashley? Because he has it written into a contract.? Great working relationship that is and shows what Rafa thinks of the owner. But still he stays on.
    Nothing to do with no better offers coming in for him?
    Lets put it this way.
    The Toon under Ashley or Manure and a couple of hundred million this summer? No brainer. He will stay at the Toon because he likes working under Ashley and wants to win something.

  • geordietom

    May 26, 2019 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #38

    jail other people were having a go at him … so why just me … are you TOON22 a jail …

  • Bobbybee

    May 26, 2019 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #39

    Go and support Leeds then Jim, they should be a perfect match for you. Unless you can buy Newcastle yourself, we’re stuck with Ashley. I must’ve missed that bit where it says, ‘stop supporting the team when you get a shit owner’. 🙂
    Get over it mate, he’s here until he’s not. Better off getting behind Rafa and the players and stop obsessing over one man. It’ll drive you into an early grave.

  • geordietom

    May 26, 2019 at 12:08 PM

    Comment #40

    been waiting 2 days for this … number 1 of the frogs back up has a go …


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