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Is This Deja Vu All Over Again?


Ok, so it’s typical Newcastle United. The rage of Achilles is our downfall. Our heel is our club.

Yogi Berra– It’s like deja vu all over again

Didn’t we just go through a “done deal” takeover with Amanda Staveley? Would you believe it? It’s like deja vu. All over again.

We have no idea what is going on with the reported takeover of Newcastle United by a Sheikh with ties to Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan. The latest reports are not positive. They are typical Newcastle United.

Below is a tweet from Craig Hope which sums up the latest developments:

No matter what happens in the unfolding future of this club, today has revealed the plight of what it is to support this club.

The ebb and flow of every Newcastle United supporter.

But still, we have faith that someone will take us forward.

We believe in heroes. We believe in Newcastle United.


107 comments so far

  • RobLeenio

    May 27, 2019 at 11:35 PM

    Comment #1

    Tsunki, toon22 commented on the last but one thread – he’s just keeping his head down, which is remarkably tactful.

    However, I do fear that he may be justified in roaring back with a vengeance in the next 24 hours.

    If this guy is claiming to be Royalty but is actually an impostor, surely there is a law against that in the Emirates? Pretty sure it’s illegal to pose as a Royal in the UK.

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  • Optimistic Panda

    May 27, 2019 at 11:42 PM

    Comment #2

    Theres no mix up in the names, one is the father one is the son.

    The son is the one linked.

    He’s still mega rich and still part of the ruling family a few steps up from his cousin from what I can gather.

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  • simon376

    May 27, 2019 at 11:42 PM

    Comment #3

    Only thing giving me hope is Dubai Micky saying lots of talk over there about it, if it was all a hoax, sure talk would all be hear and just being dismissed out in the Middle East

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  • RobLeenio

    May 27, 2019 at 11:46 PM

    Comment #4

    simon, OP fair points.

    I think / hope things will become more clear over the next day or two.

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  • Optimistic Panda

    May 27, 2019 at 11:47 PM

    Comment #5

    It’s like Prince Harry wants to buy us to compete with Princess Eugenie or whatever shes called

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  • beefman13

    May 27, 2019 at 11:48 PM

    Comment #6

    Just going to be positive on this one.

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  • Optimistic Panda

    May 27, 2019 at 11:49 PM

    Comment #7

    Rob

    People are clutching at straws hoping the deal doesnt go through.

    I’ll believe the official statements for now.

    A scouser saying not to trust someone is as ridiculous as Ashley asking a nufc fan to trust him.

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  • Munster Mag

    May 27, 2019 at 11:53 PM

    Comment #8

    Stuff the scousers. Nufc haven’t denied it. Khaled has made a positive comment. Nobody that counts is rubbishing it. Hang in there lads.

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  • one fine day

    May 27, 2019 at 11:54 PM

    Comment #9

    wow
    talk about the roller coaster .
    feel we all need to chill a bit.
    If this is a hoax then its bigger/elaborate than the moon landing theories
    To me this still feels different to the other stage managed ones .
    So unless elgordo has hoyed up his bank holiday yard of ale session in the sheike’s fireplace its happening .
    but the club needs to at least confirm or deny a bid is accepted .

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  • Shadow_Shearer

    May 28, 2019 at 12:04 AM

    Comment #10

    You would think once bitten, twice shy. But in our case it just seems to be, we never learn our lesson. But still let’s hope for the best, and prepare for the worse.

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  • carltoon

    May 28, 2019 at 12:04 AM

    Comment #11

    Ashley stated last time,that proof of funds had to be shown up front before they could do due diligence. so if we are as far as bid he must have shown he had enough money.

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  • carltoon

    May 28, 2019 at 12:06 AM

    Comment #12

    clutching at straws here.

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  • jordijohnty

    May 28, 2019 at 12:07 AM

    Comment #13

    A couple of minutes googling this chap reveals a different story. The press are so rubbish they havent even bothered to do this, just pass on the info they have been fed. It might still be genuine, its just the press just dont bother researching the facts which is a bit depressing

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  • KevinHann

    May 28, 2019 at 12:09 AM

    Comment #14

    @Optimistic Panda
    That sounds way more believable and does address the controversy which the media didn’t do much to disperse. Please don’t take this as lack of faith but since we’ve grown plenty a reason to be doubtful, could you elaborate on the father-son connection, how did you find it out?

    I’m fine with the son of a 18 billion Sheikh buying us. Now to make that clear, I’d be happy with any proper owner regardless of whether they have billions or not, but I do remember Malaga had their issues with sheikh Abdullah ben Nasser Al Thani – that ownership which didn’t turn out as great as it first seemed – they went from Champions League quarter finals to a UEFA ban because of debt, leading up to a steady decline culminating to a relegation the season before. They missed on automatic promotion and have to go through play-offs in hope of return to La Liga this season.

    All under Abdullah ben Nasser Al Thani.

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  • KevinHann

    May 28, 2019 at 12:14 AM

    Comment #15

    It is still odd Manchester City would deny any relation, if our Sheikh is the son of their owner’s half brother, doesn’t that make him what, his half-cousin? I guess it’s not like they grew up in the same house but they are still related and belong to the same family, no? Also the son of Royalty is still Royalty. What a bizarre day of media confusion.

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  • KevinHann

    May 28, 2019 at 12:14 AM

    Comment #16

    *half-nephew, sorry about that 🙂

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  • KevinHann

    May 28, 2019 at 12:23 AM

    Comment #17

    Wait a second, if Khalid bin Sultan bin Zayed Al Nahyan and Sheikh Khaled Bin Zayed Al Nehayan are father and son, how did the father graduate in 2014?

    This simply doesn’t add up. Here is his picture in a list of wealthy Abu Dhabi people, dated 2014.

    https://www.smartearningmethods.com/top-ten-richest-people-abu-dhabi-2014/

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  • Optimistic Panda

    May 28, 2019 at 12:27 AM

    Comment #18

    Kevin

    Typed his name into Google.

    His fathers name comes up first as theres only a slight difference, then I searched his name on wiki. Then went back and read his fathers page on wiki which tells you more about the family tree.

    Quite easy.

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  • KevinHann

    May 28, 2019 at 12:29 AM

    Comment #19

    Okay, the two individuals Khalid bin Sultan bin Zayed Al Nahyan and Sheikh Khaled Bin Zayed Al Nehayan cannot be father and son. I don’t know how to post a link here, but if you google “Top Ten Richest People In Abu Dhabi in 2014”, you will find a list with a short profile and photos. Khalid bin Sultan bin Zayed Al Nahyan is definitely a young person. Which makes sense since he graduated in 2014.

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  • Online Guy

    May 28, 2019 at 12:39 AM

    Comment #20

    May 27, 2019 at 9:31 PM

    DaveD1000

    Comment #20
    k…I’m still getting pi$$ed tho

    Brilliant !

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  • Dondatta13

    May 28, 2019 at 12:42 AM

    Comment #21

    I have been trawling the net for most of the day today after I woke up and read the reports…

    I think OP has it correct… The father took over ruling in 2004, the son (our guy) had interest in Liverpool at an estimated £2B…

    I believe he was told that the club (Liverpool) was not for sale, so why would he need to provide proof of funds?

    I can see why the scepticism is abound but my gut tells me that this is the real deal. Arab royalty indeed.

    The purchaser has confirmed that a deal has been agreed (in principle)… NUFC have said that the statement released by them is accurate. IMHO when big fish like this want something, they wade in and get it. The other potential purchasers left reeling in the wake… Hence their disbelief that a sale is imminent.

    Only time will tell I guess but Im sure we may actually be on the brink of some very exciting times at NUFC.

    Good night all

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  • KevinHann

    May 28, 2019 at 1:21 AM

    Comment #22

    Guys where are you reading this, I can’t find anything like that in Wikipedia? Our guy is definitely a different person from the Royal family member with the similar name, they have a different biography, they graduated in different places/areas (compare the Wikipedia entry and the Bin Zayed Group Chairman Profile) and they look different (just google “Top Ten Richest People In Abu Dhabi in 2014”, you will find a list with short profiles and photos). Our guy is older than the Royal family member with the similar name so he can’t be his son, and he is not the son of the ruler. If you have different information, please provide a link?

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  • mainemagpie

    May 28, 2019 at 1:26 AM

    Comment #24

    This was in part the statement made in 2008 confirming Sheikh Mansour had agreed to buy Man City.

    “Manchester City can confirm that a Memorandum of Understanding has been signed between the Abu Dhabi United Group and Manchester City Football Club Limited,” a club statement read. “A period of due diligence for all parties, including the FA Premier League, has now been entered.”

    This in part is the statement made about the NUFC sale today.

    “We can confirm the representatives of his Highness Sheikh Khaled Bin Zayed Al Nahyan are in discussions with Mike Ashley and his team about the proposed acquisition of Newcastle United Football Club.

    “We have agreed terms and are working hard to complete the transaction at the earliest opportunity.”

    Not much of a difference between the two and yet I can find no “news” articles from 2008 claiming “scepticism” about the deal. Three weeks after the Man City deal was announced, with no updates in between, it was completed.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2008/sep/01/manchestercity.premierleague

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/7628080.stm

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  • KevinHann

    May 28, 2019 at 1:36 AM

    Comment #25

    @mainemagpie

    The scepticism comes from the silly media not running THEIR due diligence and confusing our proposed buyer with a Royal family billionaire with a similar name. And then reverting to “Hey, we actually have no clue who this guy really is” when being told the buyer has no ties with the Royal family and is not the half brother, cousin, father or John Snow bastard of the Manchester City owner.

    The name similarity and the lack of attempt to avoid/clear the confusion before it hits the fan (because it WILL hit the fan) do add an air of uncertainty.

    I want to believe but I’ve went from quiet certainty to hopeful skepticism. Mind you, there is nothing suggesting Sheikh Khaled Bin Zayed Al Nehayan is not a wealthy enough person or represents a wealthy enough group to purchase and manage our beloved Newcastle in a fit and proper way, even if he is not who we were initially lead to believe he is.

    But he is not who we were lead to believe he is and the reality right now is we have no clue who he is.

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  • runheed

    May 28, 2019 at 1:42 AM

    Comment #26

    As Shakespeare said…’Ashley or Abu Dhabi, that is the question’….

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  • Mister Tuff

    May 28, 2019 at 1:47 AM

    Comment #27

    If the press had bottomed out this story – they probably would have no story. Better to let it run with Royal ties.
    The press would have exhausted Google searches I’m sure but still did not let on about two people with near identical names.

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  • KevinHann

    May 28, 2019 at 1:55 AM

    Comment #28

    @Mister Tuff

    Perhaps we should ask some Liverpool fans how it ran with them when the same guy was allegedly after their club? The media described him as Royal family back then, too. It’s the same person. It literally took the media years to realize this.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-liverpool-rejected-2billion-takeover-13129919

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  • NY Mag

    May 28, 2019 at 2:04 AM

    Comment #29

    Kevin,

    You seem to be getting far too exited by all of this…..just take deep breaths and let it all play out.

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  • KevinHann

    May 28, 2019 at 2:10 AM

    Comment #30

    @NY Mag

    If this isn’t something to be excited about, what is? Newcastle avoid relegation with 2 games to play, hooray? Painfully watching as Wolves buy Rondon and Ayoze moves to Spurs while negotiations with Rafa drag on and beyond the end of his contract? Is it really that weird to be excited now when tomorrow looms with its usual gloom, grayness and depression 🙁

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  • NY Mag

    May 28, 2019 at 2:23 AM

    Comment #31

    Kevin,

    What I mean is all the googling and nonsense of who is and who is not a member of royal families…..it’s irrelevant.
    We desperately need a change of ownership, as the current one is stale.
    I don’t care if the person buying us is the son or the father or the second cousin removed…I only care if they have the best Interests of the club at heart and that they will give the time and effort to make the club successful (something we haven’t had for quite some time)

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  • KevinHann

    May 28, 2019 at 2:28 AM

    Comment #32

    So do I, mate. I think and hope I made it clear that’s exactly why I looked for more info (and it really isn’t some in-depth research) – because I care who it is who will hopefully be buying us and whether they truly have the club’s interests at heart. I don’t think there is a living black and white soul who isn’t tired to death with Ashley. We all want him gone.

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  • NY Mag

    May 28, 2019 at 2:40 AM

    Comment #33

    Kevin,

    We all want the the same thing- sometimes we just show it in different ways, I hope you don’t think I’m criticising you personally – I’m not

    Just trying to add to the flavour that makes this blog what it is…it’s special, we’re special – nothing will ever change that….

    I hope this deal is legit and we can go from strength to strength….HWTL

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  • toon22

    May 28, 2019 at 3:11 AM

    Comment #34

    Looks like the guy is a time waster
    Hope not but a 5 min look at the guy on google dont give me much hope

    Who would have thought we would have another pretend sale

    Again

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  • NY Mag

    May 28, 2019 at 3:20 AM

    Comment #35

    toon22,

    You may be right, you maybe wrong – lets wait and see……..

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  • toon22

    May 28, 2019 at 3:27 AM

    Comment #36

    Yeh
    Right up to about the start of August

    😉

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  • NY Mag

    May 28, 2019 at 3:32 AM

    Comment #37

    Howay toon22…,don’t spoil it for everyone…there’s a Feelgood going around..,, get with it

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  • toon22

    May 28, 2019 at 3:34 AM

    Comment #38

    I’ve been quite reserved imho
    Even got carried away with it for about an hour
    Wishful thinking ain’t going to get rid of MA

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  • DubaiMicky

    May 28, 2019 at 3:36 AM

    Comment #39

    Let’s talk Arabic naming convention, all the bin this and bin that is to show heritage. We’ll take our bloke

    Sheikh Khalid bin Zayed bin Saqr Al Nahyan

    His first name is Khalid, that’s easy enough, his ultimate family name of the ancestral tribe is Al Nahyan, So in Western parlance it would be John Smith (Khalid Al Nahyan), now Arabs don’t have “middle” names as such. “bin” means “son of” so we have son of Zayed and grandson of Saqr.

    It shows family heritage and makes it easier to see the lineage of people.

    Now take Cieh’s owner’s full name – Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan, first name Mansour, tribe name Al Nahyan, son of Zayed (he doesn’t mention who his grandfather was, but that’s common too, as he is 12 years younger than our guy and things change).

    So both have the same father, Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan, the father of the UAE who was and is very well respected, he had 7 wives and 30 children of which Mansour and Khalid are 2. So, in summary yes they are related, they are step brothers, same father, different mothers.

    RobLeenio, don’t let it bother you about their website or the MD’s LInkedIn page, that sort of stuff isn’t bothered about here, he has the name and the background, and with that he can walk into anywhere. Flashy websites are seen as unimportant and a bit vulgar, especially to the traditional (older) family members where showing off is just not done. Deals are done by face to face discussions here with trust and heritage being more important than HTML etc.

    Hope that clears up some things.

    Oh, don’t worry also about Khalid or Khaled, it’s the same, just different translations from Arabic script to English.

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  • toon22

    May 28, 2019 at 3:36 AM

    Comment #40

    You think we should all suspend common sense and skip into the sunset?
    We have been here before,the stories not 2 days old and there’s massive holes appearing already

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