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Former Newcastle Manager Offers Opinion On Magpies Job

The Shields Gazette have reported on an interview that Sam Allardyce gave on Talk Sport.

Sam was the manager of Newcastle United when Mike Ashley bought the club in 2007. Allardyce was not Ashley’s preferred choice and after a poor run through Christmas was let go in early January 2008.

Allardyce will know all about what’s its like at Newcastle even though his tenure was short as he is also a former Sunderland manager.

This is what Big Sam had to say on Talk Sport:

“I think we all know the pitfalls of the Newcastle job but you don’t turn it down if it’s offered, if you have any ambition.

“I left Bolton to go to the next level. There has been a lack of real success for many, many years.

“The fans have turned to be more patient – they realise what the club has become.

“It was all about winning a cup competition or Europe when I was there.”

This is a very interesting series of comments by Allardyce. The “if you have any ambition” part sticks out sorely when talking about taking the Newcastle job. The owner has no ambition so why would any ambitious manager take it.

It is a job at a big club and will realistically will only be taken by a manager who could not get a job at any other top club.

He also mentions how the fans have turned more patient as they have come to learn “what the club has become.” Yet while he was here, he boasts it was all talk about winning something.

Well Sam, why do you think that is? It is because Mike Ashley has turned the club of Kevin Keegan and Bobby Robson into a middling advertisement for Sports Direct.

Sam does go on and actually give Rafa a compliment which is somewhat surprising as the two had a contentious relationship:

“Rafa did a fantastic job keeping in the PL.

“The hard thing for Mike Ashley is getting someone in to manage the club, what can a new manager achieve to take the club forward? That will difficult.”

Sam is spot on here that it is going to be difficult to replace Rafa Benitez. In fact, for Mike Ashley it will be impossible. For as long as he is the owner, any new manager will looked upon with suspicious eyes.

Sam finally says what every person is thinking when asked if he would consider taking the position:

“I don’t think so. In my time, I was between Freddy Shepherd and Mike taking it. Alan Shearer and Kevin Keegan have gone back and not done as well as expected. It’s all hypothetical – I won’t be offered it.”

216 comments so far

  • Hail Wor Ashley

    Jun 25, 2019 at 5:06 PM

    Comment #201

    Hello, people.

    So Rafa has gone. I thought he would accept the reported £50m plus player sales, but I guess there are other factors too like wage structure which seem to have been sticking points. Altogether the package wasn’t to his satisfaction.

    Takeover won’t happen.

    Always thought so and said as much way back when it started on here. Ashley will not surrender his SD advertising vehicle easily – only targeting SD and helping bring about the share price tumbling further with a direct causal link to his association to Newcastle United will get rid of him sharpish.

    You have to realise that is what the club primarily is. A billboard and PR for Sports Direct. Ki and Muto were only signed because they struck the balance between decent players/low cost and most importantly big players for their national teams from Asia, with Sports Direct expanding into that market in the last couple of years. Same reason for Fun88 sponsorship.

    SD share price has taken a beating – only about 30% of their all time high – due to the various scandals and MAs conduct, but if you want rid of him you have to find a way to drive it down further whilst it is vulnerable.

    One way would be empty stadiums.

    Most supporters cannot do joined up thinking – make excuses like gate receipts are only 20% of revenue these days, will only hurt the team etc, but the knock-on effect of boycotts will be Mike Ashley and consequently Sports Direct cast in a negative light which will cause the real damage to him. He will quickly sell if there becomes a causal link between NUFC boycott > him being the cause > Sports Direct becoming part of that story.

    If people can’t do that then more realistically I’d like Gerrard to become manager. Think he would like the challenge, would give more youngsters a chance and his connections with Liverpool would be handy for loans.

    Would love to see Gerrard help Longstaff realise his potential.

    Would also like to see us go 4-3-3 next season with a midfield trio of


    Regardless of who is manager/owner.

  • chancel be a fine thing

    Jun 25, 2019 at 5:12 PM

    Comment #202

    G2 other bookmakers are offering odds on Rafa as next manager if the posters who placed bets on it are to be believed.

  • GeordieTwo

    Jun 25, 2019 at 5:12 PM

    Comment #203

    I can’t see any young, up and coming manager signing with us. It would be a disaster for their future and could potentially destroy them. It will be someone with a fair bit of Prem experience but slightly desperate due to being out of work for a considerable time. That’s why I think it will be Moyes.

  • GeordieTwo

    Jun 25, 2019 at 5:13 PM

    Comment #204

    Ok then chancel. I can’t see the point unless the takeover is completed though. He’s only just out the door and Ashley is still in charge.

  • GeordieTwo

    Jun 25, 2019 at 5:26 PM

    Comment #205

    Well this has certainly stirred the pot again but I think most of us suspected Rafa was gone on June 30th anyway. Ashley wasn’t going to give up control over anything important at all. He wants direct control over all expenditures and he wants young incoming players to sell on. He doesn’t give a hoot about where we finish in the table other than it can’t be lower than 17th and he would prefer it be no higher than 8th so he doesn’t have to worry about Europe after his experience with Pardew and the 5th place finish. No worries, that will never happen again under him! So what now LardAss?

  • Toon Cat

    Jun 25, 2019 at 5:39 PM

    Comment #206

    Journo’s are saying Ashley will be looking for a ‘head coach’ type as a Rafa replacement. Someone who will work to get the best out of the players supplied to him by the club’s ‘director of football’. One big problem with that. Newcastle doesn’t have one !

    The Football Director/Head Coach model (a structure where payers are scouted and bought by the club and then a head coach works with what he’s given) works across many football clubs. Sometimes successfully. Sometimes disastrously. It depends on having a proper structure of experienced people in place who can work well with each other.

    Mike Ashley, who is a kind of idiot savant at business but a drooling idiot when it comes to football, stubbornly has always hankered after that model at Newcastle but clearly doesn’t understand how it works. He wants a yes-man ‘head-coach’ but he is too dumb or arrogant to put in place the utterly essential other part of the structure without which it can’t succeed.

    Instead any ‘head-coach’ kind of appointment Ashley makes will have to work with whatever players are provided to him through a transfer process proved repeatedly to be dysfunctional. They will be decided upon by a haphazard bunch of incompetents (Charnley, Barnes, maybe Bishop) who have no footballing knowledge whatsoever. They may or may not be advised by a shadowy cabal of whisperers and Ashley’s mates. There willl be no expert football man in charge, no proper structure, no board, no anything that makes any football sense or mirrors what other clubs do successfully. It’ll be Ashey’s way. Because he knows better than anyone else in football. Of course he does.

    It’s mind-boggling that a man as smart as Ashley must be in some ways can be so utterly pig-sh*t stupid in others. But he really is.

  • GeordieTwo

    Jun 25, 2019 at 5:40 PM

    Comment #207

    Well said Toon Cat.

  • GeordieTwo

    Jun 25, 2019 at 5:50 PM

    Comment #208

    With Ashley in charge the key word is dysfunctional. He refuses to change in any way and his only goals are to advertise SD and sell on decent young players and turn a profit. The third goal is very tricky for him, to stay in the Prem and collect the TV money. That one is difficult because of the first 2. This takeover seems to be dragging on now for no apparent reason. The FA have had more than enough time to do the fit and proper test, they appproved Ashley after all! So what is the holdup? Is Ashley trying to force the price up with an alternate buyer? I thought the price was agreed to at 350M? When will we know? What happens if it takes weeks to get a new manager in because nobody wants the job? Then someone internal will have to be the interim head coach. We have the hope of a takeover on one side of the equation and Ashley’s incompetence on the other.

  • GeordieTwo

    Jun 25, 2019 at 6:01 PM

    Comment #209

    Still we can all hope for a new, young, up and coming manager. And with people like Chutney to find such a gem how can we go wrong? As the saying goes even a blind squirrel finds nuts now and then!

  • GeordieTwo

    Jun 25, 2019 at 6:07 PM

    Comment #210

    Here’s the latest list of potential candidates direct from Chutney’s desk (ranked by preference):
    1. Clement Attlee
    2. Nigel Farage
    3. Eddie Izzard
    4. Sacha Baron Cohen
    That should please everyone, young and old!

  • GeordieTwo

    Jun 25, 2019 at 6:08 PM

    Comment #211

    Personally, of those 4, I prefer Attlee. He would probably do the least damage.

  • GeordieTwo

    Jun 25, 2019 at 6:12 PM

    Comment #212

    So, to sum up then and depart for the time being:
    1. We have no manager.
    2. We have no senior coaches
    3. We have no real owner
    4. We only hire idiots in the management group
    5. We have no real football goals
    6. We don’t know if the takeover is real or imaginary
    7. We prefer not to boycott or in any other way upset the pretend owner
    8. We probably won’t even be able to hire Clement Attlee.

  • dig-n-dig22

    Jun 25, 2019 at 6:15 PM

    Comment #213

    If the takeover falls through ,then we need all the fans to unite under one official body with the soul aim of ridding our club of Ashley. We need to implement a well organised plan of attack but first we need to offer Ashley one last chance to sell up immediately before we take action, if Ashley refuses, then what follows could be very painful for us fans but most importantly of all, our action’s will be very costly for Ashley. but most importantly we will be in control of our club.
    We need to channel our efforts into boycotting STs and club merchandise, if you haven’t bought a ST then don’t buy one, I am sure a well below SJP capacity will get the message across, don’t buy the kit, maybe the organised body could organise B&W ‘ badge oh honour’ Teashirts for sale that would truly p1ss Puma off .
    boycotting STs merchandise and games may not have a full on effect on it’s own but the disruption will have a big demoralising effect on the players .
    Depending on how quickly we head to the bottom of the PL will depend on how much Ashley can salvage from SJP garage sale if he doesn’t heed our advice. If we are relegated, then Ashley can forget about a full house week after week in the Championship for a swift return to the Prem
    Before Villa were relegated, they were valued at £220Mill , after 1yr in the Championship they were valued at £80Mill. The Fat Tw@t needs to remember , 2yrs after Sunderland were relegated from the Premiership, they were up for sale in League1 for a £1 pound.

  • dig-n-dig22

    Jun 25, 2019 at 6:22 PM

    Comment #214

    ‘badge of honour’ 213

  • captainmarvel

    Jun 25, 2019 at 10:23 PM

    Comment #215

    Nobody in their right mind would take the Managers job here! They have no chance of any success whatsoever what would be the point? Play to survive? Bollox! The club is on a downward path steered by Ashley into oblivion, the players must be affected by the removal of Rafa, yes they are professionals, but they are also human they obviously worshiped the guy. How many will feel let down? Would you?
    Lose a couple of games the fans will be willing it to happen it will be fat Sam all over again somebody has to pay everybody knows it should be fatty but it will be the numpty who gets the flack..

  • captainmarvel

    Jun 25, 2019 at 10:40 PM

    Comment #216

    It is no good going carping or moaning about Ashley there has to be a determined effort to get rid of him altogether
    otherwise you will be going through the same spiel over and over again year after year, he owns it yes but you fill it its up to you..

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