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Interested Candidate Will Likely Face An Unwilling Mike Ashley If New Reports Are True


The Chronicle have an article out on developments provided by Portuguese outlet O Jogo that, if true, would all but eliminate Sergio Conceicao as a viable candidate for Newcastle manager.

The report claims that Conceicao has a release clause in his contract of £18m. This would make Sergio the equivalent of being Newcastle’s second highest signing behind Miguel Almiron. If this report is true, then Conceicao is not coming to Newcastle.

Yesterday it was reported that Newcastle made contact with the Porto boss and that he is very interested in discussing coming to Tyneside.

Sergio Conceicao– likely will not be next Newcastle manager

There is just no way Mike Ashley will pay a compensation fee for a manager so current candidates who are employed like Steven Gerrard, Sean Dyche, Patrick Vieira, and Sergio Conceicao may be unrealistic targets.

Sergio Conceicao seems like a very honorable person in that he stayed at Nantes despite being offered the much more lucrative Leicester City job in early 2017. He is also well respected at Porto and highly appreciated by the fanbase due to instant success at the club.

So it is unlikely that he will cause any friction at Porto to try and force a move. The release clause was also just added when he signed an extension to 2021 in March.

Patrick Vieira is a candidate, like Conceicao, who seems interested and has had immediate success in his career. His club OGC Nice, incidentally, is also currently mired in a takeover with English tycoon Jim Ratcliff in the process of purchasing the French club.

It was also reported in the Sun yesterday that Nice would fight any attempts to pry Vieira away.

We will most likely be seeing some of these more promising candidates disappearing as the days go on. And so is life at Newcastle United.


54 comments so far

  • toon22

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:10 PM

    Comment #1

    Who do you think he will pretend to sell us to next time?

    Suppose he will have to leave his hidey hole first though lol

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  • toon22

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:11 PM

    Comment #2

    We’re supposed to believe we’re going to get anyone with ambition?

    Not a chance in hell

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  • ToonRich

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:14 PM

    Comment #3

    Repost:
    As sad as it was/is to see Rafa leave, what are your opinions on him coming back IF MA could patch things up with him???

    IMO, that isnt fixing what we hate about the regime. Rafa gone allows the fans to vent about the ownership and possibly be heard. If Rafa came back it would go hush again for another short while.

    What do you actually want if the ‘takeover’ doesnt go to plan…?

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  • hibbit

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:16 PM

    Comment #4

    Tony Baloney @54
    i actually agree with that, everyone is rising the points they believe are true from there appraisal of the information they have in front them,
    the problem we have at the minute is knowing whats true and what not,

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  • toon22

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:17 PM

    Comment #5

    What do we want ?

    MA in prison

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  • Muz

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:17 PM

    Comment #6

    Repost from previous

    Let’s think about this logically and not try and get too bogged down in emotion, hard I know but worth it.

    The story on the takeover broke by all accounts because a journalist with a contact at the FA made him aware of the takeover. The only reason that the FA would be informed was if there was intention to purchase the club. The FA don’t run these tests on just anyone who would ask if they can pass the fit and proper test, I would assume that in order to qualify to have the test started you have to a) be put in touch with the FA by the party selling the shares in a club and b) show you have the money at least to purchase and run a club. Also, logically, you would need to pass the fit and proper test before you’ve paid a penny for the shares since you can only be the owner of a club once you’ve passed the test.

    This ties in with the statements that BZG have put out. They want to buy the club, they’ve shown funds and they’ve submitted paperwork to the FA. Their statements tie in, logically, with what the process should be. The FA have remained tight lipped on the situation and they have to remain quiet; they are party to a business transaction and are bound to keep it a secret until a time the two parties in the transaction come to terms.

    I don’t know if anyone can find out when Ashley took his fit and proper test but the time between his offer for SJH’s shares and his acquisition was 2 days, which means the fat sod had to have done the test beforehand.

    Statements from big mouth know-nothings like this guy need to be given as much berth as possible. They’re just getting clicks but using the credibility of a university lecturer to validate their shonky headline. Will BZG have exclusivity? No, because you’d only grant exclusivity to the buyers who will agree to your terms and get their ducks in a row with the FA.

    I have absolutely no doubt that BZG want to buy a club, our club, and their offer is genuine. Fat lad will be blocking it or doing his best to ring every single penny out of the sale. I’m filled with more confidence that things will occur because, so far, we’ve shipped no one out the door for a profit despite very open overtures from Man Utd for Longstaff. 2 years ago, the lad would have been on his way down the M62 about now. He’s not shifting players because the current playing staff are part of any deal and an active deal is currently in play.

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  • toon22

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:18 PM

    Comment #7

    It’s simple enough

    MA and his goons have spent 12 years lying there backsides off
    Whatever they say is lies

    He’s sold us 8 times now,it’s what he does.That and run away and hiding when the heats on

    It’s a liar and a coward

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  • geordietom

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:19 PM

    Comment #8

    repost …

    we will be sold by monday . my mate Marvin told me … because he heard it though the grapevine….

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  • outside the box

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:20 PM

    Comment #9

    irish rob @40 previous post….has anyone seen any photo of charnlie ?….has anyone heard any report from any paper saying they had tried to interview him but he said no comment?…i havent and i think nufc supporters deserve to hear that charnlie has been pestered by reporters camping on his doorstep…dont expect reporters to go anywhere near cashley

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  • Jib

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #10

    What people are forgetting is:-
    As it stands we have a squad of seasoned PL battlers
    Bring in an experienced PL manager who as well as
    keeping the current squad also builds bridges with some
    of the out of favour players and relegation may not necessarily
    be a given.

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  • Munster Mag

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #11

    If BZG commented twice before, why can they not do so again? Surely an NDA would have stopped them uttering a word previously? Getting tired of fake optimism at this stage.

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  • Munster Mag

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #12

    Muz, I assume that if we buy or sell someone, the deal is off ?

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  • Muz

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #13

    Munster – because there’s nothing to say. They’ve stated they want to buy the club, that funds are shown and that the FA have been informed. Until a deal is made with fatso that sees the transfer of shares their position hasn’t changed and releasing anymore statements weakens their bargaining position with Ashley since they’ll look desperate.

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  • ronaldo aarons

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:24 PM

    Comment #14

    Tony
    Do you have a link to McGuire valuing the club at 225m? That’s the first time I have seen that figure mentioned.

    At the time stavely was taking over, he valued the club at about 260-280m.

    Another sports finance lecturer, Dan Plumley, valued it anywhere between 250-300m.

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  • Optimistic Oryx

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:24 PM

    Comment #15

    Theres enough theories on here to give JFK and the Moon landings a run for the money.

    At the start I felt the BZG deal was different and it would go through and I ignored all of the media input as BS. Now Rafa is going and the sale STILL hasn’t materialised I’m starting to wonder if the sale ever will.

    No info no info, no news certainly isn’t good news in the current situation.

    🙁

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  • toon22

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:24 PM

    Comment #16

    His goons have said “they don’t know how horrible we can be”

    I’d say the same back,they’ve got far more to loose than we have now.

    Hiya JIB

    Who do you think he will pretend to sell us to next time?

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  • Optimistic Oryx

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:25 PM

    Comment #17

    Munster

    How can you have fake optimism?

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  • RobLeenio

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #19

    Muz, that’s a canny summation of the situation as I see it.

    Another step down the line would be a period of exclusivity following the F&P test, to give the two parties a chance to get down to brass tacks and sort out the fine detail of the purchase. I think the first step there was to get a new holding company up and running – Monochrome Acquisition.

    Exclusivity can last any length of time from a couple of weeks to months, but is extremely sensitive. Literally no news would be forthcoming from either side which could prejudice the process. I imagine there would be financial penalties payable for breaking certain clauses etc.

    It’s been three weeks since Monochrome Acquisition was incorporated, three weeks that we’ve been clamouring for news and had nothing. I think, personally, and assuming I’m right that the period of exclusivity is ongoing, it could end imminently.

    Obviously this would tie in well with the info from hibbit and Shirebrooktoon, also.

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  • Muz

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #20

    Buying I don’t see would be an issue since it benefits the new owner; Ashley can take a punt on a player or stick in a cheeky bid because if the deal doesn’t go through he’s still potentially got a player. If the deal does go through, the new owner has a player. But, when you agree to a sale, or get as far as they have done, it’s for something that exists at this moment in time. He won’t shift a player on because the players are part of the clubs assets which he’s selling. He’s already lost Benitez which, I said the other day, diminished the value of the club a little. They can rehire Benitez though, (or whoever they want), but selling a player for £30 Million and still asking your buyer to stump up the full amount? Nah.

    If he sells anyone, the deal’s off. That’s the point at which you know it’s dead in the water.

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  • RobLeenio

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:30 PM

    Comment #21

    BTW, I think Jail mentioned yesterday that the Newcastle United Supporters Trust has been offering discounts on membership. £10 for a lifetime. I’ve signed up, it’s dead easy.

    https://nufctrust.co.uk/product-category/membership/

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  • hibbit

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #22

    Jib who’s this magician with premier league experienced we’re bringing in because the only one i know has just left.

    relegation battle from the start and favorites to go down without a takeover

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  • Muz

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:35 PM

    Comment #24

    RobLeenio – Ashley set St.James Holdings up the day he made the offer to Sir John Hall (or close enough to it), and the fat swine has always said he kind of rushed into buying the club; hence no due diligence. I think that BZG have set up a transfer vehicle well in advance shows a kind of admirable methodology to their process. For all any of us know, the agreement is in place but the forensics on the clubs books isn’t finished or approved. No one would buy a club that’s got a big black hole in the books and we already have HMRC at the club for tax evasion. A new owner buys everything with the club including its debt and any prospective legal action we might face.

    Which as an aside is another reason why I think Ashley will sell because any scrutiny of those books will more than likely encourage HMRC to look at his other businesses. HMRC are total barstewards, they’ve just me a £5K alteration to a tax bill.

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  • oldarse

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:36 PM

    Comment #25

    Common Jib that’s the express it’ a comic mate

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  • Geordie-john

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:38 PM

    Comment #26

    Jib
    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:21 PM
    Comment #10
    I think you have forgotten about Fat Lad making his extra extra profit on player sales so Perez will go and Longstaff will go and maybe Shelvey will go and Hayden will go and possibly one or two more will go
    BUT ! Do not fear we will get Mr Blobby, George, Zippy and Bungle to save us !

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  • Jib

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:38 PM

    Comment #27

    Hibbit
    Mikel Arteta
    Roberto Martinez
    Claudio Ranieri
    David Moyes
    Garry Monk
    Sean Dyche
    Jose Mourinho
    Martin O’Neill

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  • NY Mag

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:40 PM

    Comment #28

    Muz,

    Why do you keep talking about the FA, owners and directors tests are carried out by the premier league.

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  • Nostradamus " Mike Ashley The Clown "

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:41 PM

    Comment #29

    You really want to fcuk up Mike Ashely, first game take over the pitch, sit in make a real statement.
    The FA will penalize Newcastle yes, maybe that’s the way to go, if Mike wants the club to just about survive well let’s make it so we get docked points so we get relegated. Hurting him in the wallet.

    Drastic measure I know but it’s our club and we can show him that we can decide which way it’s goes.

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  • posada

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:42 PM

    Comment #31

    Jib
    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:21 PM
    Comment #10
    What people are forgetting is:-
    As it stands we have a squad of seasoned PL battlers
    Bring in an experienced PL manager who as well as
    keeping the current squad also builds bridges with some
    of the out of favour players and relegation may not necessarily
    be a given.
    ***********************************************

    Builds bridges with the out of favour players.
    You mean Lazaar, Aarons and Saviet. Total no hopers.
    Murphy. Total loss of confidence and I hope he turns it round.
    Colback. Possibly.

    Stick to stuff you can google or make up.

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  • toon22

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:44 PM

    Comment #32

    posada

    Its JIBs job to defend MA and be positive about the club

    The key difference between Mike Ashley and every previous Newcastle United owner

    https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/key-difference-between-mike-ashley-16502227

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  • Muz

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:45 PM

    Comment #33

    NY Mag, The FA introduced the requirement for the test. You’re right, the bodies representing the premier league and the football league run their own interpretations of it but they are being compliant with FA policy. And if it’s presented to the EPL or EFL it will be presented to the FA as the ultimate governing body in England.

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  • toon22

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:46 PM

    Comment #34

    “The Football Supporters Association’ have highlighted that this is not an isolated issue, it is happening across the country. Dedicated fans watch helplessly as their treasured clubs crumble from lack of investment or financial exploitation by dodgy owners.”

    http://www.fsf.org.uk/latest-news/view/chester-mps-bill-calls-for-tough-and-independent-regulation-of-football

    If ya want rid of the parasite email your local MP

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  • toon22

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:47 PM

    Comment #35

    Its right up MAs street

    😉

    Do it

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  • Jib

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:47 PM

    Comment #36

    Shit
    toon22 has just reminded me
    It’s Friday
    I have to check me overtime with KBA

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  • NY Mag

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:47 PM

    Comment #37

    Jib,

    Did you read that link before you posted it…..quick suggestion, go read the first paragraph 🙂

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  • Keith G

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:48 PM

    Comment #38

    Street named after Sir Bobby

    On 20th June there was a ceremony at Loule Town Hall in the Algarve to unveil the Rue Sir Bobby Robson plaque . The street is in the Vila Sol complex .

    In Portugal over the course of sixteen years Sir Bobby helped raise over a million euros for a children’s charity in Faro, so the local council decided to honour his name by naming a street in his honour .

    How nice is that ! What a legend.

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  • Jib

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #39

    NY
    There’s the thing
    Although the FA accepts the majority of the PL findings
    two lots of paperwork still have to be submitted.

    The FA have to justify their salaries somehow

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  • Benton Toon Exile

    Jun 28, 2019 at 4:52 PM

    Comment #40

    Not one media outlet knew, until the club issued a statement on Monday that Rafa was officially leaving, not one media outlet know anything about the takeover or players or new manager until the club tell them, so all this stuff you read is made up rubbish to get you to click, I still read it though!

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