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Report – Sam Allardyce Rejected Newcastle Job Offer Due To Club’s Policies


In what has to be absolutely shocking news if true, the Daily Mail is reporting that Sam Allardyce was offered the Newcastle United manager’s job last week.

This is what Matt Lawton is reporting as an exclusive in the Daily Mail:

Newcastle United offered Sam Allardyce a surprise return as manager last week, Sportsmail can reveal, but the former England boss has rejected the opportunity.

Owner Mike Ashley is understood to have identified the 64-year-old as a replacement for Rafa Benitez, not just because of his track record as a Premier League manager but because he would not cost any money in compensation.

Sources close to the club say Allardyce, who has been out of work since leaving Everton in May last year, was presented with an offer after talks between senior figures at St James’ Park and his representatives last weekend.

But there was an issue over the club’s recruitment policy and a concern that Allardyce would have little if any say over signings. As a consequence talks collapsed and Newcastle now appear focused on recruiting Steve Bruce from Sheffield Wednesday.


We are absolutely astounded at the depths this club has plummeted.

With all due respect to Sam Allardyce, but to fail to secure Rafa Benitez and then go after Sam Allardyce is just beyond belief. To top it off, Ashley couldn’t even get Allardyce to make a return to Newcastle due to his ridiculous conditions.

Sam Allardyce– Wait here. We’re up by one, you’re no longer needed

It is the same old story. What manager would work under these conditions? Rafa Benitez must have really loved the fans to have endured three years of tribulation under this lot.

It’s as if Mike Ashley asked himself who can I hire that would most upset the fans. Next, we’ll be hearing that Alan Pardew was offered a shock return to St James Park. It’s as if he does this on purpose and that is what is most infuriating.

You could also take into consideration the contentious relationship between Rafa and Sam and just imagine Ashley conjuring up a way to get two retributions for the price of one.

Not even Sam Allardyce, who only lasted for just half a season under Ashley in 2007-08, thought he would be a candidate for this position again.

This is what Big Sam had to say to talkSPORT the day after the club announced Rafa’s departure:

“I think we all know the pitfalls of the Newcastle job but you don’t turn it down if it’s offered, if you have any ambition.

“I left Bolton to go to the next level. There has been a lack of real success for many, many years.

“The fans have turned to be more patient – they realise what the club has become.

“It was all about winning a cup competition or Europe when I was there.”

When asked if he thought he would be offered the position, Sam said this:

“I don’t think so. In my time, I was between Freddy Shepherd and Mike taking it. Alan Shearer and Kevin Keegan have gone back and not done as well as expected. It’s all hypothetical – I won’t be offered it.”

Not only did Allardyce not think he would be offered it but he said “you don’t turn it down if it’s offered, if you have any ambition.”

Sam Allardyce, who worked for Ashley, couldn’t even fathom how terrible of a job this has become under this owner. Not until he was face to face with him again.


153 comments so far

  • beefman13

    Jul 11, 2019 at 1:44 AM

    Comment #41

    Bruce, do as oldgit says and honour your contract at sheff wed, please.
    Mike take the money and go son, just go.
    If its all been a smokescreen, you and Charnley and the Sheikh and his mob want a thorough lynching, you’s would deserve nothing less, playing with people’s minds.
    Or SPEAK.

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  • one fine day

    Jul 11, 2019 at 1:58 AM

    Comment #42

    Had to laugh when i saw we are after the juventus no 2 keeper .(Unless they are after dubs)
    Currently its looking shola will be up front.
    Anyone who has watched FIRST TEAM on net flix which follows them through a season in serie a and the champions league ..wow stadium , training set up, academy and the way they conduct themselves in the community
    Top to bottom it is like our wet sloppy dream.
    Love to see him being shown around and being asked to help tip the ice in the paddling pools.
    after the first stories broke about bzg i say watching it thinking this is where we are heading ….thanks fatty you have f@ucked that up royally.
    to quote john lydon at the end of the last ever sex pistols tour
    Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated ?

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  • one fine day

    Jul 11, 2019 at 2:00 AM

    Comment #43

    Online
    great words hope you can get it on their
    ducking in and out with work here but i might have a crack to see if i can get on the owls site tonight see what the craige is

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  • Asi Fish

    Jul 11, 2019 at 2:20 AM

    Comment #44

    Put on your laughing clown masks and dance

    We r a joke of a club, a smoke and mirrors whorehouse, a distraction to all other clubs and an unbelievable lie to the general public.

    I really can’t do another season under this plank.

    Said before that I cud take him out from 300 metres in a strong wind….starting to contemplate it

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 11, 2019 at 3:24 AM

    Comment #45

    Don’t believe a word of this, Allardyce offered it?

    Actually, if Ashley just wants to rock the boat till it flips, signing Allardyce and doing the media presentation from his ‘Casa St James’ would be about as good a ‘you don’t know how nasty we can be’ statement as he could make. Maybe on the flip side of the Orange Tree napkin Kinnear allegedly signed on…..

    Would Allardyce turn it down? Probably. I’d imagine he is speaking for managers still wanting to work when he says you wouldn’t turn it down.

    Bruce went through a difficult personal time at Villa, but the Villa fans I know are grateful for his time. He stabilised and started to reorganise and rebuild. Given his personal life, I think his Villa record – compared with Di Matteo (I think it was him) at Villa, was pretty good. But he is what he is, lower Prem, upper Championship. Not where I, or most fans, want this club to be.

    Not convinced on the takeover, not convinced by the Bruce rumours. Most modern media is a joke, and the majority of modern sports journalists are a marginal step up from the D list star spotter journo’s for the celeb pages in the red tops.

    If, and it’s still a sizeable if for me, the takeover is dead in the water.

    If he is not, and the unsubstantiated rumours of Radcliffe becoming involved recently are correct, could BZG have failed Fit and Proper, and have turned to a front man for board and Premier league purpose, who is building and developing his sport portfolio?

    The ‘statement’ was dross. If you’re a billion dollar company, and being serious in a £350million bid, you wouldn’t release a vague statement that does nobody any favours

    No issue with how they released it. He is a popular media figure there, who also happens to be a Geordie. He’s a known quantity. Do you think the Sheikhs going to get on the blower to Ryder??

    I guess Midhat could have made it his Whatsapp status, but between negotiating and becoming besties with people, he possibly didn’t have time.

    Flight watch offers a touch of something interesting, More likely, planes were just flying. As long as none of Ashley’s planes or choppers fly to Portugal any time soon…..

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 11, 2019 at 3:47 AM

    Comment #46

    Just spent ages typing a reasoned argument on what is going on…. Can’t be bothered to type again. The gist of it is that the north east as a whole has become a laughing stock and a bit embarrassment.

    Such a huge shame for an area that historically has produced players and thrived as clubs within the community. Plenty of other clubs can argue the same, but this debacle, and Sunderlands decline, the Gateshead palaver…

    I’d much prefer a thriving North East, then where Sunderland are and ourselves being a catastrophe.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 11, 2019 at 4:03 AM

    Comment #47

    Last one, I keep seeing people say the FA or Prem should step in and do something about Ashley. On what groumds/solid, factual basis? How many people on here wanted the Prem and FA to step in for Blackburn, Blackpool, Coventry, Bolton. What does Ashley owning NUFC do? Well, huge column inches.

    Our hatred of Ashley, and the desire to boot him out and as far from here as possible, isn’t anything that would stand up. Fulham spent more than nearly half the league last year. Does that make every Prem team unambitious? Simple argument from the club would be that they spent well, sensibly, qnd given where we finished, nothing to investigate. Any money going will be well hidden or well structured.

    Ashley may not be as clean cut to pass the Fit and Proper, but the fit and proper is to prevent gaining unfair advantage and to clubs from the owners sinking and destroying the club in a legal or financial definition. Similar to the Parliamentary Bill – there’s a reason why, despite Chi being heavily involved we weren’t namechecked.

    Our issues are sporting and emotional. Hoping or thinking there are actually grounds to have others step in is pointless. Boycott Arsenal? Yeah, why not. If it just happens for that game, all it will do is put our stadium advertising on a greater global platform and shown repeatedly all over at a greater level than a successful club would ever achieve.

    Do it repeatedly and it will be gradually less publicised, and offer less media promotion for his tat.

    Lack of investment? How many teams

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 11, 2019 at 4:12 AM

    Comment #48

    Thatpost got confused and lost I’m my thought process and annoyance and our current situation.

    Essentially, even now, Ashley would cruise fit and proper. Any arguments that fans could raise to try and involve the Prem, the FA, the government based on current regulations, and current bills raised in parliament would rule Ashley as a responsible owner. Ambition doesn’t come into it. Spending doesn’t. As long as the club is stable, financially sound, and still maintaining Prem standards for facilities – which despite all protestations – we do, there is no case for them to look at.

    It’s on us. One way or another. Sniping, bickering, egos and the one upmanship that has plagued all fan protest attempts needs to stop. We are closer to that than ever, but still a long way to go.

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  • The Sheikh'sMate

    Jul 11, 2019 at 4:46 AM

    Comment #49

    Stardust@1
    Don’t worry about it, there is no takeover.

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  • Online Guy

    Jul 11, 2019 at 4:52 AM

    Comment #50

    Lilongwe

    Very good read from you this morning .

    The weetabix went down easily .

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  • Online Guy

    Jul 11, 2019 at 4:57 AM

    Comment #51

    Ofd

    Another good read .

    I think we are having a collective nervous breakdown .

    What the hell is Ashley doing to our club ? It’s got to be total malice.

    Let’s hope there is good news today .

    If all else fails he’s gonna ask Harry.

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  • one fine day

    Jul 11, 2019 at 5:19 AM

    Comment #52

    Asi Fish

    Jul 11, 2019 at 2:20 AM

    Comment #44
    Said before that I cud take him out from 300 metres in a strong wind….starting to contemplate it

    whats to contemplate 🙂 I am sure the Nust will sort out some bail money and a lawyer .its what they seem best at lol

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  • one fine day

    Jul 11, 2019 at 5:33 AM

    Comment #53

    Clearly the best way to hurt him is his favorite toy.
    That has to be someone in the online community with a sympathetic ear,multi skilled and a working knowledge of firewalls and trojans etc.
    Would be a chore having to sought out things like online ordering and distribution networks and trying to retrieve business intelligence data etc if god forbid anything untoward was to happen in camp shirebrook.
    Would be a terrible situation and one that you can only think of the hours and hours and cost to rectify the glitches again and again . and again and again …it really would .

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  • Captain AmeriMag

    Jul 11, 2019 at 5:37 AM

    Comment #54

    So people won’t believe anything about the takeover until they see Khaled holding up a scarf on the St James’s Park pitch but as soon as some negative shit comes out in the papers about Bruce or Allardyce everyone takes it as gospel??

    If Allardyce was offered the job last week, why only break the story now? Because it’s bollocks that’s why!!

    I’ve already said why the Bruce links are nonsense, neither of these stories have any sources just unsubstantiated journo click bait crap!!

    More truth in Plane Watch and more coincidental landings in Luton.

    N9895 landing in a couple hours, I hope this is the big one.

    #cansforfans #saveconkerstestes

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  • Nufc-83

    Jul 11, 2019 at 5:40 AM

    Comment #55

    I am truly devastated by recent events. When Rafa left I thought ok we look to be still getting taken over and surely they will want a top manager in following on from Rafa. I now see us with the likes of Steve Bruce and Fat Sam 🙁 Ashley would have seen us all singing you’ve got Sam Allydrce to Everton fans at Goodison and so how unless he wants to punish us does he think that is acceptable. Steve Bruce will be another Pardew or McLaren completely useless the manager should have been a modern progressive manager!

    This is truly heartbreaking to watch.

    Anyway off to Portugal on a stag weekend so won’t really be in any fit state to look until Sunday night. God knows what I will come back to!

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 11, 2019 at 5:42 AM

    Comment #56

    Online,
    Reading back through them they sort of get my point across, but terribly typed and the trail of them is essentially how my thought process keeps going about this summer – confused.

    I had the discussion with some guy last night, and I definitely put it more eloquently, but points he raised then brought new thoughts on both sides of the coin, and then writing it up didn’t quite go as well….

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 11, 2019 at 5:53 AM

    Comment #57

    Clearly something has been going on behind the scenes. Ashley and Charnley have proven fairly inept at doing things well and identifying what to do, but I can’t believe they wouldn’t have put more effort in to lining a manager up of they expected to still be here.

    McClaren and Pardew, Kinnear were all swiftly appointed once the vacancy was opened. The last time we had limbo similar to this managerially was Shearer to Houghton, when talks were happening between Moat and the club, only for Moat not to be able to afford it.

    Why it hasn’t happened, is open for debate, but I think it is fairly difficult to ignore the common factor in talks, when we know there have been buyers in talks, and it never goes anywhere.

    Bruce, or anyone of that ilk is a death knell to takeover talks, but why believe the media on Bruce, but not on anything positive?

    We are in a weird and surreal void where nothingness and inertia seems to reign, times up, and something has to give. Ashley may regret not being the one that gives this time.

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  • ctommo

    Jul 11, 2019 at 5:55 AM

    Comment #58

    Back on to plane watch. Keep an eye on Emirates EK037 landing at BHX around 7pm.

    Dubai based Managing director due to land, confirmed pick up at Europcar rental station!!!

    Yes folks, its me, not Midhat. Sorry

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  • RonVanDam

    Jul 11, 2019 at 5:57 AM

    Comment #59

    Ashley is scrapping the barrel now. Went for Big Sam so he wouldn’t have to pay compensation, and for Big Sam to reject us says a lot about the way the club is run. I’m sure MA now knows he’s run out of excuses and needs to sell up and leave town. Rather slash his asking price now than mid season when the club is in a major crisis
    I hope every manager declines us, players revolt, fans stay away on game days so he finally gets the hint that no one wants him here anymore
    If BZG are really interested in buying than they need to aggressively pursue to close the deal this week otherwise we are fcuked

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  • DubaiMicky

    Jul 11, 2019 at 5:58 AM

    Comment #60

    #saveconkerstestes

    PMSL

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  • Lindisfarne

    Jul 11, 2019 at 5:58 AM

    Comment #61

    If the club are so determined to hire a Head Coach that has nothing to do with transfers, then why has a Striker or any other player not been bought yet?

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  • one fine day

    Jul 11, 2019 at 6:01 AM

    Comment #62

    lilo
    don’t be too hard on yourself
    I think everyone who cares is in a similar state.
    This roller coaster has my emotions and mood swinging from Mary Poppins to Hannibal Lecter ‘
    Where as we could always fall back on sound reasoning,logic and common sense the last 6 weeks at nufc has seen all those thrown firmly out the window .
    hanging on to the fact that even ashley and charnley cannot possibly think they can just carry on as normal after whats gone on and they are simply treading water until the deal is signed off.then you start to look at reasoning and the night terrors return.
    For what its worth the only guy of those mentioned other than von bronkhurst to me would be ranieri .i know he lost it at fulham but i still think he could at least steady the ship and would be good in a holding pattern as new owners came in and found there feet like Hughes did at city
    His Leicester side played some great pressing attacking football too and even though he was well backed he seemed to get on with the job with the minimum of fuss.another manager who did great things for a club and was treated disgracefully

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  • one fine day

    Jul 11, 2019 at 6:02 AM

    Comment #63

    Captain AmeriMag
    you missed #canshallah

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 11, 2019 at 6:07 AM

    Comment #64

    Jim Ratcliffe was rumoured to be interested in buying Chelsea back in May, while ALSO looking at Nice.

    The cost of Chelsea and the transfer ban may have put him off. Even buying Chelsea would still require significant investment on the pitch. It isn’t an outrageous leap to think watching talks drag on with us would make him look towards making a late attempt to buy.

    For the cost of Chelsea, you could buy us and comfortably bankroll infrastructure investment as well as a significant transfer budget. As a flagship for his sporting empire – in the same vein as the Red Bull network of clubs – there aren’t many higher profile English clubs available.

    Do I believe it? I’m more on the doubtful side than anything else, but it is plausible, and hey, why not put circumstantial evidence in like the flights to boost the hope. Plus, he is a Man U fan from what I’ve read, I wonder whether Steve Bruce was a favourite player – all falling into place……. Probably not.

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  • toonedout

    Jul 11, 2019 at 6:09 AM

    Comment #65

    Only way to move forward is Ashley gone – quickest option takeover or playing the long game, relegation. Stay down 3,4,5 years costing him substantial money every year – yes he would asset strip first but eventually he would have to cut his losses and we eventually get our club back. Take the pain now so we have a future – if we had not bounced back from relegation the first time Ashley & co took us down he would be gone by now

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 11, 2019 at 6:13 AM

    Comment #66

    OFD,
    I think Ranieri is too long in the tooth to put up with Ashley. If, and ‘if’ is essentially ‘when pigs fly”, the clubs best hope we’re they to decide to be ambitious would be a young manager from one of the mid tier European leagues where they essentially operate in the way Ashley dictates already. I reckon there would be plenty out there, but I can’t imagine Charnley’s Rolodex contains too many numbers….

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  • Captain AmeriMag

    Jul 11, 2019 at 6:15 AM

    Comment #67

    Apologies OFD, it feels better in caps.

    #CANSHALLAH

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 11, 2019 at 6:18 AM

    Comment #68

    I understand the theory of us going down and staying down gets rid of Ashley in the long run, but the longer we are down, the less attractive to big investors we become, and the further behind we fall while other clubs pick up the pot of gold that the Prem, and even yoyoing offers.

    There’s so little guarantee we would come back. But the most galling thing, would be that the history books would show we have declined and struggled to get back up post Ashley, and the longer that went on, the more history, media and other fans would look at it and tell us how we shouldn’t have kicked off as under Ashley we were Prem more than not.

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 11, 2019 at 6:22 AM

    Comment #69

    The history books would end up distorting the current situation and make Ashley look a good owner.

    I’d rather stay up and stay an attractive proposition. However it does appear we are doing our damnedest to make any chance of staying up slim right now.

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  • Lovem or Hatem

    Jul 11, 2019 at 6:25 AM

    Comment #70

    One possible theory is that Ashley is trying to play brinkmanship with BZG. Ashley wants his deal to be accepted which probably includes advertising and merchandise for himself. BZG has probably put forward a deal which excludes Ashley from merchandise and advertising.

    Ashley is trying to put pressure on BZG to accept his deal by showing that he is willing to carry on running NUFC.

    Ashley is known to be a gambler and he will be trying to push his luck as far as possible regardless of the consequences.

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  • Lovem or Hatem

    Jul 11, 2019 at 6:29 AM

    Comment #71

    @lilongwe

    I understand your position but it seems like the choice is to accept how Ashley is running NUFC, until someone pays over the odds for the club.

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  • danishmag

    Jul 11, 2019 at 6:33 AM

    Comment #72

    Captain amerimag..

    Can you give us an update, on the flight plans?
    And can you sum up, why you keep beeing so optimistic?

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  • Lilongwe Geordie

    Jul 11, 2019 at 6:37 AM

    Comment #73

    Lovem,
    Is that really the only option you see? To sit back and wait?

    Personally, I don’t think the club, all in, is overvalued at £350million. The fine print will be where sales fall, and none of us will be privy to that unless a failed buyer comes out and states it out right.

    I don’t think waiting is a good enough answer anymore. Whether it is a boycott, in ground protests – the club would have to finance extra policing or police having to stay behind if nobody left the ground, mainstream media, SD targeted etc there are plenty options, but fans need to be together, and we are getting closer, but the blog microcosm shows the divisions are still there.

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  • Markaccus

    Jul 11, 2019 at 6:42 AM

    Comment #74

    Nobody in their right mind is going to buy a club where they can’t choose their own ground advertisement and sponsor. If those are the conditions Ashley sets then we are stuck with him, unless a stupid buyer accept the deal, in which case we’d be stuck with a new dumb owner. Club is screwed if the protests don’t work

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  • Veltman

    Jul 11, 2019 at 6:42 AM

    Comment #75

    t22 , as you seem to be winning day by day,
    don’t forget to ring me up when you buy a shop or the “transfer” money is transfered in to your hand.May be you will buy me a shop too. Visit me occasionally taking a break from your city, take vacation or even invest in my city,etc etc…
    As it looks like my nufc adventure is over.

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  • Bobbybee

    Jul 11, 2019 at 6:47 AM

    Comment #76

    Could both Hippo Heed and Agent Bruce actually turn us down? Embarrassing doesn’t go anywhere near to describing that.
    I’m obviously not alone in thinking both we’re a deliberate attempt at winding us up. Anybody who doesn’t think Ashley hates us almost as much as we hate him only has to look at the situation.
    Rafa gone because he wouldn’t get control. Not because the transfer kitty was so bad – it wasn’t when you add sales to it – he just wanted to choose players who fit his style of football, that’s all. Most managers do, but when you have a smallish budget, it’s even more crucial.
    So, Rafa gone. Perez gone. Rondon gone – most of our goals there in two players. Longstaff will go if the offer’s right. He wants to go anyway, his head’s been turned by the bright lights… and big wages offer.
    Now we discover GippoGeed kb

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  • MarkBro

    Jul 11, 2019 at 6:50 AM

    Comment #78

    There is no take over, isnt this obvious?

    G2’s theory is the most plausible. Ties in nicely with the supposed announcement that didnt arrive and the chronicle (i think) saying we’re going back to hiring a “coach”. This was the same day or close to that Big Sam was offered the job as he mentioned the lack of power, for him turning it down.

    So the takeover collapsed a week ago but still no update

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  • MarkBro

    Jul 11, 2019 at 6:55 AM

    Comment #79

    Passed the stadium yesterday, what a shambles. The club is looking tatty and tired.

    Passed the Sir Bobby statue, same initials as Steve Bruce. Funny how nobody has made a statue of Brucie

    WHY ARE WE WAITING UNTIL THE ARSENAL GAME TO PROTEST?? wheres the anger and passion now?

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  • Toon222

    Jul 11, 2019 at 6:57 AM

    Comment #80

    Every bit of this is PR, newcastle fans hate former scumberland managers and especially fat sam but in a couple of days both bruce and fat same have been offered the job, allegedly

    Its all shit talk to distract or anger away

    We all need to focus on the 1 thing atm and thats having an empty sjp for the arsenal game, we need 2 send out the msg that we’ve had enuf and send it out strong

    Fans need to stand as 1

    BOYCOTT ARSENAL

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