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Report From Germany Refutes Claim Of Deal In Place For Joelinton

German outlet Kicker is reporting that any move for Hoffenheim striker Joelinton from England is not as advanced as recent claims suggest.

News broke yesterday of Newcastle readying a club record deal for the Brazilian. These reports were from the Daily Mail and the Telegraph.

It was Luke Edwards of the Telegraph who furthered the claim when he stated that a deal was in place for Joelinton:

Newcastle have a deal in place to sign Brazilian striker Joelinton from Hoffenheim, but the need to have a manager in place is growing more urgent by the day as they also need him to give the green light to that transfer.

This is what Kicker is reporting today:

At the moment, Joelinton is at the training ground of TSG Hoffenheim in Zuzenhausen despite reports from England that the transfer of the attacker is nearing completion.

It is also planned that the Brazilian will travel with the club to their training camp in Windischgarsten.

According to information received by Kicker, an imminent departure of the 22-year-old is not to be expected, even if Newcastle United was already after the prospect in the winter.

The report also says that the fee could be well past the reported £36m from yesterday.

It details the recent departures of left-back Nico Shulz to Dortmund for €25.5m and midfielder Kerem Demirbay to Leverkusen for €32m to suggest that Hoffenheim have no need to sell.

This makes perfect sense as Joelinton just had his contracted extended in November to 2022. Last season was also his first with the German club after he spent two years on loan in Austria with Rapid Vienna.

They may see Joelinton as a big part of their future and be unwilling to part with the player.

No to sound too cynical but this report came at the same time that Newcastle extended the window for people to renew their season tickets.

While it’s most likely coincidental, you can’t blame anyone for making that connection.

96 comments so far

  • Toonces

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:08 PM

    Comment #1

    No Joelinton for us, while West Ham sign Sebastien Haller from Frankfurt for €45M, who we were linked several times in past windows when his price tag was too much at ~10M and he went to Germany instead.

  • Nostradamus " Mike Ashley The Clown "

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:09 PM

    Comment #2

    I’m in total shock this report is being Refuted.
    Tongue in cheek syndrome commenced.

  • West Lancs Geordie

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #3

    All we ever get at this club is FAKE NEWS & LIES & then MORE LIES & FAKE NEWS.

  • hibbit

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:13 PM

    Comment #4

    Hoffenheim’s denial took longer than i thought !!!!

  • Just a fan

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:14 PM

    Comment #5

    Essex ok sorry I banged on about Leeds
    There should be a proper league table of top teams.
    We would probably be in the top ten.
    Probably higher than man city????

  • West Lancs Geordie

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #6

    It’s not against the law to be frank & honest & tell the truth once in a while. Traditional values went out of the window some considerable time ago I’m afraid!

  • RobLeenio

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:22 PM

    Comment #7

    It’s irrelevant whether he comes or not – he would be the equivalent of a sticking plaster after the 100MPH had on collision which is our Summer to this point.

    The only thing that matters is bringing Ashley down.

    Novocaine for the soul.

  • fairscup

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:22 PM

    Comment #8

    I wish someone would tell us if we are going to get our Brucey Bonus or not

  • dekka

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:24 PM

    Comment #9

    The sad thing is I don’t really care any more. After 58 years of being obsessed with NUFC I don’t get excited by reports of a new player. I’m not even depressed about Bruce being our new manager. As far as I’m concerned it’s no longer NUFC I suppose it’s sdfc. I’ll be back when it becomes NUFC again, when Ashley has gone for good. I just hope I live to see it.

  • TomaKaThor

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:26 PM

    Comment #10

    Well duh asif we would have foresight to sign this guy, even if we was willing to pay that much, we would be negotating till the deadline and then say we couldnt get the deal over the line, then in a year or 2 he will most likely go to one of the big boys for 3 times as much as we could of got him for, thats the Newcaswtle way under fat Mike

  • Transfer Sage

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:28 PM

    Comment #11

    I’ve not been on since Rafa left so there is a bit to say.

    On Rafa, I’m not disappointed in him for leaving. He didn’t get what he wanted here so why would he stay. For him to say recently he wanted to be at a club with ambition and the chance to win the Champions League, heading to China shows that isn’t true. Yes it’s a good salary, yes he’ll have money to buy players, but it’s in a league with no pedigree or prestige. It’s a terrible move for anything other than money.

    On Bruce, I’m indifferent. He’s a good guy, has a steady record in the PL (far from fantastic) and is willing to work in the constraints. There are so many better options out there, but given my next comment, it’s irrelevant.

    We’ve sold Perez and not secured Rondon. That’s our goals gone for next season. Unless we buy some quality up top, the manager issue isn’t important as we simply won’t get enough goals… we’ll be like Huddersfield were this year.

    On the takeover. I just don’t understand it. A sheikh won’t be playing Ashley’s games, but if they were serious, what is the hold up. It sounds to me like nothing is happening and this is dead in the water, if it was ever alive at all.

    The season is going to be terrible, I’ll be shocked if we don’t go down. Once again, the blame lies solely with Ashley. At least in previous seasons we’ve gone in with a decent manager, a reasonable (although below par) squad that at least had a chance of competing in games.

  • optimistic prime

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:29 PM

    Comment #12

    Lads I’ll stop interacting with you know who, it’s not a healthy discussion or debate. Especially after hes conceded my point yet says I’m beaten, strange man.


    I think that’s the angle TMG should look at, they/we all know fans with stories that would get other fans attention. If we could get the older couple to attend a protest etc people would take notice.


    I’d volunteer to be handcuffed to Ashley, 5 mins should be just enough time to whisper sweet nothings in his ear about a sale.

  • Bills Son Is Back

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:31 PM

    Comment #13

    Beaten Panda – We have to be clever about what’s pushed forward as it’ll be under intense scrutiny..


    You won’t be pushing anything forward then.

    Except your tired old excuses for ducking questions.

  • naptoon

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #14

    This is really surprising news I fully expected the tapeworm to have 3 or 4 signings lined up that would double our transfer record… ffs he cant even get a manager for us expect 1 or 2 young uns and a couple of loans.

  • JohnJ

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:33 PM

    Comment #15


    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:24 PM
    Comment #9

    “I just hope I live to see it.”

    I resemble that remark!

  • optimistic prime

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:36 PM

    Comment #16

    Is this guy for real?

    Hes avoided my question for 24hrs and is trying to say it’s me dodging his, you couldn’t make it up.

    Someone call a doctor this bloke has lost it.

  • GeordieTwo

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:36 PM

    Comment #17

    If Bruce was actually a decent manager I could accept him. But is he? His record doesn’t indicate it’s so. He’s mediocre at best. His overall win rate is 38.5%. His best prolonged rate was with Villa at 45.1% over 102 matches. He’s mediocre which is what Ashley is comfortable with (and probably the only manager he can get right now). Back to struggling with a mediocre manager and a squad with definite holes in it.

  • GeordieTwo

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:39 PM

    Comment #18

    Well said Transfer Sage @11.

  • Jib

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:42 PM

    Comment #19

    optimistic prime
    Lads I’ll stop interacting with you know who

    follow your own advice ffs

  • outside the box

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:43 PM

    Comment #20

    bookies are having a field day…..genesio 6-1 …this after denials….brucie 1-10 still after his resignation….somebody is loosing money…???? …

  • Jib

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:44 PM

    Comment #21

    Rafa’s with NUFC was 42.5% over 146 matches

  • GeordieTwo

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:45 PM

    Comment #22

    I have to say I am disappointed with Rafa for going to China as well but I guess the money was just too good to turn down. If he survives for 3 seasons he’ll be back to Europe to finish his career and can take any job he likes. Who knows it might even be back with us if we’re sold by then. Would 2 consecutive seasons in the Champo rid us of Ashley? I think he’s taking a huge risk staying on as owner but he’s shown an ability to get us back up so far with just enough spending and a squad with enough quality to do that particular job.

  • GeordieTwo

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:47 PM

    Comment #23

    That’s right Jib. With a horrific owner who wouldn’t spend. You think Bruce is going to manage that with us? I would think he’ll be hard pressed to have a 30% win rate.

  • nufc 11

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:47 PM

    Comment #24

    The only signing NUFC will be making in the near future is Graham Carr who will work for a weekly wage of little more the the state pension. Steve Bruce will work for a couple of free tops from SD and and Lee Charnley will 100 pound per week and a bag of coal at xmas. Sell every and any player with a value, sell the ground under SJP to a private company that will start charging huge land rents and Mike Ashley wont be long about making back his 150 million loses on the Debenhams failed takeover deal.

    PS I didn’t know that Keith Bishop and Associates are new NUFC board when did that happen?

  • Nedders

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:47 PM

    Comment #25

    Just an observation – I’m not sure the players are anywhere near as upset/frustrated at Rafa going as the fans are.

  • GeordieTwo

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:48 PM

    Comment #26

    Bruce will be better than Carver. That’s about it.

  • Wayayman

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:48 PM

    Comment #27

    G2 I’d argue that Bruce was a PL manager a fair few years ago and the game has moved on massively & quickly since then

  • GeordieTwo

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:50 PM

    Comment #28

    Where did you see that nufc11? That’s a total disaster if true.

  • Tom1664

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #29

    You know what I’m going to miss about Rafa? Going behind and still having some kind of hope we’d claw it back.

    It’d been years since I’d seen a Newcastle team do that – as soon as someone scored against a Pardew/Carver/McLaren team you knew we were done. And they arguably had a better squad!

  • GeordieTwo

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #30

    That makes sense to me Wayayman. He’s not going to do well in the Prem as it stands now and with the owner he has to work for. It’s going to be a disaster. Look for a fall sacking, followed by more panic.

  • optimistic prime

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #31

    Bruce is the type of manager I’d fully expect Ashley or Charnley to choose, nothing special but hopefully a steady pair of hands.

    He’s a average manager and as some suggest possibly a little dated, then you have his comments about Nufc during and after his stint down the road, he’s never came across as a fan to me.

    He says he’s a fan a Geordie, he must know whats been going on, he cant be that dumb or thick skinned, so why work for Ashley.

    Transfer said about Rafa earlier his move to China was more about money than the potential of the club or prestige of the league, it’s the same for Bruce. Theres a chance he could have brought Weds up next year.

    I can understand his desire to manage the club he supported as a child and his family have but under Ashley and the current conditions I cant understand why any fan would say yes.

  • GeordieTwo

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:53 PM

    Comment #32

    Where did you get that from Nedders. The players can’t just come out and say “well Rafa leaving is a disaster, we’ve really had it now”. Lascelles has made a statement that just says the obvious. That they will have to dig in and listen to the new man when he comes. We don’t know much more than that do we?

  • geordietom

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:54 PM

    Comment #33

    repost f..k me i missed the bus again …

    jazzy …

    sorry i took a bit time to get back to its about re: mental illness…

    i know where your coming from mate . i have bad anxiety problems and depression . long story not gonna drag the demons back up but . i like you suffer from bad mood swings . i’am on your side with that mate .keep your chin up .

    dont let the bastards grind you down …

  • geordietom

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:55 PM

    Comment #34

    just saw a Blimp floating over my house . hang on it was Steve Bruce …

  • Toon Cat

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:58 PM

    Comment #35

    Apparently over 13,000 season tickets unsold as of sunday.

  • lochinvar

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:58 PM

    Comment #36

    Ashley : Charnley what are you going to do to try to boost season Ticket sales ?
    Charnley : Sign up a top class Premier League Manager
    Ashley: who’ve you got ?
    Charnley: well I’ve got a first reserve called Bruce hanging on standby
    Ashley: well spread some rumours about some French guy to force that Wednesday shower to accept my offer for him
    Charnley : I could get the press and fans interested in signing a muckle big number 9 called Joe Linton if that helps ? The fans like a big number 9 so I’m told
    Ashley: good boy , now ‘sit’. Here’s your biscuit . ‘Stay’

  • Jib

    Jul 16, 2019 at 4:59 PM

    Comment #37

    I remember when Bruce was captain of Man Utd
    leading them to 2 League and cup doubles , being
    interviewed , and saying the first result he looked for
    on a matchday was the Toon’s

  • Nedders

    Jul 16, 2019 at 5:00 PM

    Comment #38

    Like I said, just an observation on their body language, on the comments from Ritchie’s interview. Rafa’s amazing, great manager, great human being. Just to take off the tinted spectacles, however, we played some absolute dirge early last season (Cardiff, Brighton, Chelsea, Watford and many more), he quite often said how bad the squad was (miracle if we stay up) and was very, very restrictive at times with tactics and tracking back.

    Don’t get me wrong, he’s more of ‘means to an end’ manager, which is why Rafa’s teams have ALWAYS (not just NUFC) finished seasons strongly. But sometimes I’d imagine players just want to play. Not saying him leaving was a good or right decision, just making a comment based on the players.

  • geordietom

    Jul 16, 2019 at 5:00 PM

    Comment #39

    tsunki …

    that bit you put on earlier was it all your own penman ship ?…

  • toon kk

    Jul 16, 2019 at 5:00 PM

    Comment #40

    Of course Bruce is going to struggle next season, Rafa would have had he still been here without Perez and Rondon.
    Trouble is even with some quality brought in we’ll still struggle with Brucey, perhaps he can play his bonus!
    Think it will be our last season in the Premier league for who knows how long.
    Lost interest now tbh.


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