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Newcastle Return To Long Contracts And Paying Fees Upfront


The Chronicle published an article this morning about the change in the transfer policy this summer back to the one the club adhered to in the past.

The club is returning to the policy of signing players to long contracts while paying the entire fee upfront. There had been speculation that the Joelinton fee would be paid in installments however, the Chronicle says that both the Joelinton and Allan Saint-Maximin fees have been paid in full.

Both players have also been signed on 6-year deals. This is a return to a policy that the hierarchy feels represents the best value and shows a commitment to the club.

Steve Bruce with Joelinton– big opportunity for both this season

This policy works very well when the players turn out to be quality first-teamers but has had mixed results at times. We can look at two transfers in January of 2016 to see an example of the policy working and also not working.

That winter both Jonjo Shelvey and Henri Saivet joined the club on five and a half year deals. Jonjo Shelvey has become a first-team regular and the contract has benefitted the club at least in terms of length.

However, for Henry Saivet the long contract has caused problems for the club as he has seen little first-team action and spent the majority of the past three years on loan. He still has two years remaining on his deal.

The Chronicle report that Rafa Benitez did not like this policy and under him we saw players join on shorter deals though many still did sign for at least five years.

One player that joined on only a three-year deal is Fabian Schar and after just one year the club now will need to work on a new contract for the star defender.

Both visions seem to have their positives and negatives. The key is getting the transfer target right at a high percentage.

We are thrilled with the two permanent signings this summer as well as the loan deal for Jetro Willems. Hopefully, these three players can settle in quickly and have bright futures with the club.

There will also have to be some outgoings as the squad is over the 25 player limit at the moment so we expect to seem some movement on that front over the next few days as well as hopefully a few more players in.

PlayerFeeClub
INCOMING
Joelinton£36MHoffenheim
Kyle ScottFreeChelsea
Jake TurnerFreeBolton
Jetro WillemsSeason loanEintracht Frankfurt
Allan Saint-Maximin£16.5MOGC Nice
Emil Krafth£5.0MAmiens
Andy CarrollFreeWest Ham
Ludwig FrancilletteFreeUnattached
Transfer Fees paid out£57.5M
OUTGOING
Mohamed DiameReleased Al Ahli Doha - Qatari
Cal RobertsReleased
Ayoze Perez£30.0MLeicester City
Joselu£2.5MAlves - Spain
Liam GibsonLoan - JanuaryGrimsby Town
Dan BarlaserSeason loanRotherham United
Freddie WoodmanSeason loanSwansea City
Nathan HarkerLoan - JanuaryBlyth Spartans
Jacob MurphySeason loanSheffield Wednesday
Transfer Fees into club£32.5M
Net Spend£25.0M

52 comments so far

  • IrishRob

    Aug 3, 2019 at 12:57 PM

    Comment #1

    In the words of Tina Turner, “Simply the best”

    4
  • ronaldo aarons

    Aug 3, 2019 at 12:57 PM

    Comment #2

    Hail Ronaldo!

    0
  • ronaldo aarons

    Aug 3, 2019 at 12:57 PM

    Comment #3

    Nooo!
    I’m off to do harakiri.

    2
  • IrishRob

    Aug 3, 2019 at 12:58 PM

    Comment #4

    “Better than all the rest”

    2
  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Aug 3, 2019 at 12:58 PM

    Comment #5

    Aah Neil, you should have left the new thread to wait a while longer to let people people stew a bit and validate my theory.

    3
  • IrishRob

    Aug 3, 2019 at 12:58 PM

    Comment #6

    “Better than Aaaannnyone”

    0
  • IrishRob

    Aug 3, 2019 at 12:59 PM

    Comment #7

    “Anyone I evvvverrr met”

    0
  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:01 PM

    Comment #9

    IrishRob

    Still wondering why you had a dig at me some days ago, how have I upset you?

    2
  • Mad Frog Boom 22

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:02 PM

    Comment #10

    They need time…

    0
  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:02 PM

    Comment #11

    Ron cheers mate. 🙂

    0
  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:04 PM

    Comment #12

    Hopefully it works! 🙂

    0
  • Ron Knee

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:07 PM

    Comment #13

    That’s another story, Bill.

    1
  • Bills Son Is Back

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:08 PM

    Comment #14

    I wrote posted below on the last thread before I read this one.

    Looks like I was right.

    Repost;

    This feeder club makes me laugh.

    Signing players on 5/6 year contracts is a huge gamble that has backfired badly in the past.

    So, why has Ashley stuck to that policy on young players?

    Because he has seen players from other Prem clubs have one good season on a 3 year deal, attract the interest of big clubs and then be held to ransom by the player and his agent saying they want away and won’t sign another contract with just two years left to go or less.

    With a 6 year deal that doesn’t happen.

    The club now have total control of any transfer situation and can either a) turn down offers flat or b) if the player insists on going demand a high fee or tell the potential buyer to go forth and multiply.

    EVERY CLUB IN THE WORLD, bar possibly Real Madrid, Barcelona, City and PSG, are ‘feeder clubs’ to one degree or another simply because the best players, rightly, want to better themselves, win trophies and earn the wages that can’t be earned at the clubs they are with.

    A 6 year deal is basically saying to a player…

    We really rate you…

    We think you are going to get better…

    We want to keep you for the long term…

    But…

    If a big club comes calling soon… if you want to go…

    It will be on our terms… not you and your agents.

    And, if we decide you aren’t going… you ain’t.

    6 year deals are a gamble, but the BEST WAY of NOT being a sucker punch feeder club.

    2
  • jane

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:09 PM

    Comment #15

    Sunderland’s summer signings..
    George Dobson [Walsall – Sunderland] Undisclosed
    Marc McNulty [Reading – Sunderland] Loan
    Jordan Willis [Coventry – Sunderland] Free
    Lee Burge [Coventry – Sunderland] Free
    Conor McLaughlin [Milwall – Sunderland] Free

    notable outgoings..
    George Honeyman [Sunderland – Hull] Undisclosed
    Bryan Oviedo [Sunderland – FC Copenhagen] Free
    Donald Love [Sunderland – Shrewsbury] Free
    Lamine Kone [Sunderland – Strasbourg] Undisclosed
    Lee Cattermole – without club

    0
  • Lindisfarne

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:10 PM

    Comment #16

    Ciaran Kelly@CiaranKelly
    Steve Bruce in programme notes: ‘It may be a friendly match, but today will be a special occasion for me as I stand on the touchline for the first time at St James’ Park as the head coach of the team I’ve supported my whole life. I will be living the dream as I do so.’ #nufc

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  • toon22

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:11 PM

    Comment #17

    Bills

    Defending Jabba again

    6
  • #BoycottAshley ( OP)

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:13 PM

    Comment #18

    £56.7m spent

    £32 08m received.

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  • Bills Son Is Back

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #19

    frog,

    Yep, I am on that point, because I agree with it.

    Stuff I haven’t and don’t agree with.

    But, unlike you and your Jabba hating ilk I can rationalise and see the wood from the trees.

    Touche.

    HWTL.

    0
  • toon22

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #20

    There’s about 100 million left

    2
  • #BoycottAshley ( OP)

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:14 PM

    Comment #21

    Just trying to work out if theres more money to spend on signings

    1
  • toon22

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #22

    Bills

    It’s never Jabbas fault

    0
  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:15 PM

    Comment #23

    If Saivet gets a chance eh will (positive comment) prove he is good enough for us. imo

    2
  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:16 PM

    Comment #24

    ‘he will’

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  • toon22

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #25

    Jabba has been a disaster for our club

    Bills seems not to mind

    3
  • Bills Son Is Back

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:17 PM

    Comment #26

    frog,

    It’s really killing you this spending isn’t it.

    Doesn’t fit your Jabba forecasts.

    And, he’s paid upfront.

    Which Monday is he getting nicked?

    Last one, next on, or the one after next?

    1
  • #BoycottAshley ( OP)

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #27

    Problem with 6 yr deals is if they dont cut it you’ve got a player on a hefty wage you cant shift.

    We’ve stock piled shit players we can’t shift already, no doubt Wearside Jack is getting a contract extension.

    Not a fan of long deals with Nufc

    3
  • Essex Geordie Bill

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:19 PM

    Comment #28

    Bills son
    I posted this on the precious thread after your comment and immediately you had a response as I predicted! 😉

    Bills Son

    That does make a lot of sense, stand back as the naysayers disagree!

    2
  • toon22

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #29

    Bills

    What spending?

    We’re about 100 million short just this year from the tv money alone

    2
  • toon22

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #30

    Long deals keeps the selling price high
    If the player turns out to be a Colback it’s the club that pays

    Not Jabba

    He can’t lose

    2
  • Our Toon

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #31

    Jail

    Yep just take a few days out of beating the same drum I do and try to at least have a little optimism before reality strikes under bruce.

    Rafa didn’t want joelinton as he apparently thought he was overvalued, yes he didn’t want jetro either but that lad has come in on loan, you make it sound like rafa never made any mistakes. We wouldn’t get jetro on loan if rafa hadn’t of messed up by signing Lazaar has that thought crossed your mind?

    I’m happy we are at least trying to give bruce good players and if he fails then it’ll be down to his management simple as that. Every signing is a risk but I’d rather sign these lads on a 6 year deal then to have em here on a 3 year deal.

    2
  • Jib

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:21 PM

    Comment #32

    #BoycottAshley ( OP)
    Not a fan of Nufc

    0
  • toon22

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:23 PM

    Comment #33

    LoL JIB

    Never even been to the toon

    Hahahahaha

    2
  • toon22

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:24 PM

    Comment #34

    Lots of minority views about the toon again

    Best not protest
    Jabba has spent anything like what the clubs got
    Sit back and take any12 years

    2
  • Our Toon

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:25 PM

    Comment #35

    Will schar stay considering hes got 2 years left on his deal or will he run it down and go as a free agent somewhere else?

    That’s the problem with 3 year deal or shorter deals. If sold next season schar will go for a fraction of what we could have got for him as he will only have 1 year left on his contract.

    So signing someone up for 6 years and then being deadwood isnt an issue if you sell 1 or 2 that become success for mega money, it more than covers the cost of keeping the deadwood on the books.

    It’s a risk but it’s a sensible business move

    1
  • ronaldo aarons

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:27 PM

    Comment #36

    Hope willems scores a hatful.
    #Jetro’sOnFire

    1
  • IrishRob

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:27 PM

    Comment #37

    EGB…. I just say what I see bro!

    1
  • toon22

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:28 PM

    Comment #38

    It is for Jabba

    He makes money or we pick up the bill
    No brainer

    0
  • IrishRob

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:29 PM

    Comment #39

    Actually I could be getting you mixed up with somone else it could all be a mistake. What did I say also??

    0
  • Bills Son Is Back

    Aug 3, 2019 at 1:29 PM

    Comment #40

    6 year deals are a gamble.

    But so are 3 year deals.

    Schar has less than 2 years to go.

    If a club comes in and offers £30M+ and Schar says he wants to go and refuses to sign an extended contract, what does the club do?

    By January the club’s hand is weakened further and other clubs now know that effectively he is available.

    If that situation actually happened I wouldn’t sell now, but I’d have a replacement lined up for the first day of the Jan window and then sell Schar to the highest bidder.

    Unfortunately, football now is not a game.

    It IS business.

    And that scenario above shows exactly that.

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